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Hey

I have installed your software on my IPAQ 514 device (Windows mobile 6), the software runs and can contact the server to send and receive data. The GPS however is not built in on this device and I'm not able to get my bluethooth version working. How are the GPS handled in your software? Is it internally connected to a serialport or is there another solution?

Kind regards
David - SM3ULU

APRSISCE only supports GPSapi-supported (typically internal) GPS
devices. I'm hoping to include NMEA over serial support at some
(indeterminate) point in the future. Sorry about that, but continue
tracking this group and you'll know when it's available.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE

David Andersson wrote:

Hello OMs
Is there aprsis for Blackberry?
73 de Wisnu YB0AZ
Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!

Currently, not that I know of. APRSISCE is for Windows Mobile only.
I'm hoping to port it to also be a Windows desktop app, approximately
the same time that I add OpenStreetMap.org support.

A friend of mine (KJ4HPQ) runs a Blackberry and is working on a native
client for that platform. He tracks as KJ4HPQ-12, but not directly
through APRS-IS at this point.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

yb0az@... wrote:

Hello, I recently had to reload everything and couldn't find my code. Was wondering if moderator could resend it to my email.

Thank you,
Michael
KE5EUA

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Hi Michael, ???????????????????? What code do you need the APRS/CE reg code or the APRS-IS server code ? ? Phillip ZL2TZE ? ?

My reg code.

Michael
KE5EUA (-15 [Minivan Mobile])
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From: "Phillip"
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:24:08 +1200 (New Zealand Standard Time)
To: <aprsisce@...>
Subject: Re: [aprsisce] Need code again.

?

Sorry, wrong group.

APRSISCE is a new implementation of an APRS-IS client for Windows Mobile
(yes, I messed up in the program naming).

APRS/CE is a completely different program that seems to have completely
ceased development and is not supported in this Yahoo group.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE (for Windows Mobile)

Michael Hopwood wrote:

Greetings,


Currently on my phones (all in family) the internet connection has been disabled. This has been doen to eliminate costs involved with general run-of-the-mill stuff like surfing, downloading songs, etc.

I am curious if anyone knows the cost breakdown for running this software. Obvious the cost varies, so I guess I am really looking for how much data is passed/received per month.

Thanks!


Best regards,
Fred

Fred,

There is no way I can give you any idea on the data passed per month, week, day, or even hour. It all depends on the APRS activity in your specified range as well as your specific configuration for beaconing.

I highly recommend that anyone running this program have an UNLIMITED data plan on your phone. There are so many variables in the APRS-IS feed that you could very quickly rack up a bill that would astound you.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. Be especially cautious of "disabled" data connections. AT&T in particular likes to switch you back to a "pay as you go" plan which can seriously put a dent in your wallet.

For instance, here's my current detail with APRSISCE running 24x7 with a 70 mile range configured from KJ4ERJ-12 coordinates:

07/29 04:35 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 16KB
07/28 10:03 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 3KB
07/28 05:17 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 542KB
07/28 05:09 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 31KB
07/28 05:04 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 2KB
07/28 12:10 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 50KB
07/27 02:58 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 162KB
07/26 11:28 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 462KB
07/26 11:18 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 23KB
07/26 05:41 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 706KB
07/26 05:21 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 31KB
07/26 03:23 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 33KB
07/26 12:07 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 2954KB
07/26 11:34 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 3568KB
07/26 11:26 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 4KB
07/26 11:23 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 3KB
07/26 10:28 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 173KB
07/25 04:22 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 507KB
07/25 12:12 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 47KB
07/25 12:01 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 2KB
07/25 08:56 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 72KB
07/24 09:02 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1622KB
07/24 12:31 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 517KB
07/24 12:19 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 6KB
07/24 12:10 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 36KB
07/23 08:34 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 63KB
07/23 08:21 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 8KB
07/23 06:54 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 10KB
07/23 02:40 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 583KB
07/22 03:36 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1118KB
07/22 02:56 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1352KB
07/22 12:56 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 200KB
07/21 10:46 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1570KB
07/21 03:53 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 531KB
07/20 12:25 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 1017KB
07/20 02:34 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 882KB
07/19 06:34 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 805KB
07/19 01:16 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 62KB
07/19 09:19 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 245KB
07/18 11:11 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 3139KB
07/18 11:07 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 13KB
07/18 10:35 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 117KB
07/18 02:37 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 852KB
07/17 06:07 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 961KB
07/17 06:00 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 15KB
07/17 01:21 PM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 70KB
07/17 11:16 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 74KB
07/17 08:26 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 308KB
07/17 08:07 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 3KB
07/17 02:34 AM wap.cingular <JavaScript:openPAB('wap.cingular')> Internet/MEdia Net Sent 383KB





Broncus wrote:

Thanks Lynn!

I figured the area usage really makes it somewhat unknown. The data you
appended is quite useful anyway.

The unlimited plans that come with certain phones makes sense. I don't have
one of those phones yet. I can't even run your software yet but am looking
at possibilities at the moment. One never knows what the future is.

BTW, what phone are you using currently? Actually, I am wondering what
phones others are using as well. Now that I think about it a little anyway,
maybe it is not a phone. Either way, what are you using?

Thanks!

Best regards,
Fred


"There is no way I can give you any idea on the data passed per month, week,
day, or even hour. It all depends on the APRS activity in your specified
range as well as your specific configuration for beaconing.

I highly recommend that anyone running this program have an UNLIMITED data
plan on your phone. There are so many variables in the APRS-IS feed that you
could very quickly rack up a bill that would astound you.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

PS. Be especially cautious of "disabled" data connections. AT&T in
particular likes to switch you back to a "pay as you go" plan which can
seriously put a dent in your wallet."

Fred Hillhouse wrote:

BTW, what phone are you using currently? Actually, I am wondering what
phones others are using as well. Now that I think about it a little

anyway,

maybe it is not a phone. Either way, what are you using?

I personally use an AT&T Tilt Windows Mobile 6 phone. I've got a
windshield mount and mini-USB power for it in the car along with a
portable LioN battery set with 5v regulator for when I go out
geocaching. With the phone's GPS and data connection active, I get
about 2 hours on a full charge. Drop the GPS but keep the data and I
can get about 6 hours. With the two LioN cells regulated, I can run
about 6-8 hours with full GPS and data.

The worst thing I've done to it yet is hook up a 12v lead acid battery
with 5v regulator and ran the phone, data connection, GPS, WiFi, along
with APRSISCE and Navizon for 10 straight hours on a road trip to/from
Atlanta and Clemson University (two separate trips). The phone requires
cooling if you ask it to do that much for that long with the radios
always active!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

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Beta Testers,

I just posted the first new release of APRSISCE (for Windows Mobile) to the Yahoo group Files section. You can find it there as:

APRSISCE6P090805.zip

There's lots of little stuff in there, but the big thing is...

IT DOES MAPS!

It hooks into OpenStreetMap.org's servers and dynamically loads maps in the background and displays them on your phone.

Left/Right arrows will decrease/increase the density (transparency) of the maps in 5% increments. If you take it down to zero, the maps will disappear and the old circle will come back.

Before copying this onto your phone, please make a copy of the version you've been using, just in case something goes worng!

Please post feedback here to the group with comments, successes, and (hopefully not) failures of this new version.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE

PS. Oh, it also does Overlay characters on the Icons! Even the really tiny ones!

PPS. It also tracks (and draws) every station that moves, so expect lots of lines if you view an active APRS area. To clear the lines, double-click the Odometer. The first confirm is for your track (if you have any) and the second confirm is for the other stations' tracks (if there are any).

Beta Testers,

Here's a stream of consciousness (actually a brain dump from my version control system) of what's new since January in APRSISCE (for Windows Mobile).

1) It generates a date/time-stamped CSV file in your Documents folder with all of the transmitted coordinates. It does this even if you have APRS-IS disabled. I used this to track myself when I was out of the country without phone/Internet services. Some day I'll make it an Enable.

2) If you add any b/Buddies to your filter text, they will be reverse-video'd when scrolling in the recent station list.

3) I now notice that the tracking in general is NEW! All stations that move will leave a single width black line behind themselves. You clear these with Menu/Clear Track or double-click the Odometer.

4) Secondary symbol table symbols now do overlays if specified by the client. This is NOT restricted to the subset that is documented, but is displayed on any symbol if so configured by the remote station.

5) Your last known good position is saved when the client is closed and recalled when you run it again. This means that the map will be displayed along with other stations' relative positions even before you get a new fix.

6) Scale factors have changed due to the OpenStreetMap implementation. You can actually zoom further out than before and if you zoom too far in, the maps will disappear and the circle will come back. The circle is also displayed if there are no maps currently loaded for the selected zoom level. Maps will appear when they finally begin arriving.

7) Objects are tracked by the originating call sign in addition to the object name itself. This helps avoid object ID collisions in a close geographic area, but it can generate extra objects if ownership is intentionally changed.

8) The path of the most recently heard packet for a station is remembered and displayed on the station popup. Object owners also appear here along with your configured APRS-IS server name if you click your own icon in the center.

9) Several packet parser corrections have been implemented. Some packets that were previously considered bad parses will now be properly displayed.

10) The javAPRSsrvr # heartbeat is no longer considered to be a received packet. This means that the activity timer may expire more often than it has before causing Force Disconnects. If you get an inordinate number of these, increase your Quiet Time configuration parameter. This was done because some APRS-IS servers seem to go dumb and quit transmitting packets but continue to transmit the heartbeats.

11) Station Icons will fade away as they age. The XML configuration file lets you specify a minimum and maximum station age (in minutes). Stations will stay 100% for the minimum time and will then fade until the maximum time at which point they are deleted. Any message from a station will restore it to full brightness.

(Note: a bug was just reported in the left/right arrow map fade controls. If you decrease it below zero with the left arrow, it will wrap back up to 100%. This will get fixed, but I probably won't bother with a new release for it).

12) The station popup (click on the map icon or the recent station list) has been streamlined to remove information that is empty and add new additional information. It will show some or all of the following:

Title bar shows station and IGate (this is APRS-IS after all)

Sym: Symbol name and overlay (if any)
Rng: miles @ bearing (if you have a fix)
n/m Tracks (mKB) (if you've moved)
Last known coordinates in APRS format
Last heard timestamp (yyyy-mm-dd hh:mm:ss)
Path (if not empty between tocall and qXX,Igate)

13) Zoom factors are now different due to OpenStreetMap tile scaling

14) Circle no longer rotates, but North is always up. I need to make OSM an enable to restore the old rotating circle behavior. Or just restore rotation if you crank the visibility down to 0%?

15) Statistics display (double-click the split station/memory bar) shows both your and total track counts and memory consumption. I hope to add network traffic counters and Tile "disk" and memory consumption information here someday.

16) The recent station list now pops up the station on a single tap, a double-click is no longer necessary. This was done to make it consistent with the circle station display.

17) The recent station list will reverse-video any station that appears as a buddy in your filter settings. Eventually I want to make the buddy list configurable so you don't have to manually add b/Callsign to your filter.

18) I already mentioned the track drawing, but saw it again in the difference listing. I'm open to suggestions if the tracks need to be bolder, wider, or selectable by station. This is one of the reasons for the buddy list configuration also. I'm hoping to allow you to color the tracks of your buddies and possibly disable tracking or non-buddy stations.

19) The OpenStreetMap currently covers all of the background available. I need to figure out how to clip them to the original circle, or at least draw a circle over top of the map. Remember that the height of the +/- scale bar is the radius of the circle. The number that appears above (landscape) or below (portrait) of the scale bar is the radius of the circle in miles (or feet if you zoom in far enough). Someday I might support a metric toggle for this display.

20) Wait, it looks like the January release DID draw your own track! The new one just adds tracks for everyone that moves (including satellites that fly by). The track is only drawn if the current station position is visible on screen, though, so don't be alarmed if lines appear and disappear when you zoom out and in.

21) I think I already mentioned that station Icons fade out as they age, but I just saw it again also. Obviously the recent station list doesn't fade because it's recent, right?

22) Last known satellite positions (the pale numbers inside the circle) are now removed if you disable the GPS.

23) The ranging red dot (forecast position based on last beaconed speed and heading) is partially faded. I need to make this percentage a configuration parameter too.

24) That CSV Track file I mentioned at the top closes and restarts itself when you clear your odometer.

25) A bunch of the various text displays are now better centered in the vertical direction. I'm talking about the +/-, H/V, Odometer, Heading, and stuff like that.

26) Battery telemetry is no longer sent unless something has changed. This makes for rougher looking graphs, but less traffic and storage on the servers as well. If the battery is going up or down, it's smooth.

27) Your last known position along with your current scale/zoom level are recorded and recalled the next time you run the client.

Now, for the homework. To see if you've managed to read the whole thing through, can someone pull out all of my notes of what I still need to do and make a ToDo list for me?

I'm also open to any and all suggestions of what to prioritize next. One of the things on my list is to make the APRS-IS connection asynchronous so it quits locking up the client when the cellular connection is bad or non-existent.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile

PS. Would anyone be interested in a non-tracking, non-GPS, view-only Win32 version of the program?

Lynn,
I just downloaded it and installed it and I like the new additions, no I
haven't tried it yet while mobile but I like what I see so far.

When you said the "Left/Right" arrows I was looking on the face of my HTC
Touch Pro and the screen and didn't see any of those keys, DUH, then I slid
open my keyboard and sure enough they worked. The Touch Pro hides the
keyboard when in 'normal' position.

I also noticed that the Up/Down keys affect the zoom level, nice. I find my
phone responds faster to those arrow keys than the "+" "-" buttons on the
screen.

When I kept the left arrow key pressed the map would cycle from map to just
circle and back to the map and keep cycling, but the right only increased
more detail to the map.

Dave N8PU

Dave,

Actually, the left/right change the transparency of the map. It only looks like the detail changes as it becomes darker. As I was writing the release notes, an early tester of the left/right feature reported the left wrapping issue.

I think the delay in the +/- on the screen is Windows Mobile hesitating to see if your motion was going to be a double-click or not. With the keyboard, there's no uncertainty.

If your HTC Touch Pro has a navigation rocker thing on the face, it also works for the up/down/left/right. At least, my AT&T Tilt works that way!

Thanks for the positive (and quick!) feedback. At least I know it works for one more person than just me!

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ

David Shrum wrote: