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Re: Water take & lines

 

Sorry to misspell "tank"...challenges of arthritic fingers and tablet keyboards with auto correct.

I would encourage you to be able to camp in places without full electric and water hookups - there are some places in GA and north FL that you can get an exceptional experience by being able to unplug. ?Plus, most are super cheap (if not free), like the sites in the Apalachicola National Forest.

It's a LOT different than even car tent camping when you're in your Aliner. ?If the A/C is your biggest reason, remember that spring and fall here in the deep south are not A/C weather -- just fans (and maybe a small heater every once in a while).

This from a backpacker/historical trekker/car camper from way back.


Re: Water take & lines

Carol Donaldson
 

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Thanks for the offer, Wynne. ?

At this point, the water tank is low on the list of "to-dos" ...?

I think I had my fill of "boon docking" when I was backpacking. ?lol?

Carol?

2016 Toyota Tacoma TRD 4x4 Off-Road (aka Myrtle)?

2004 Aliner Sportliner (aka Tyrtle)?

May life be gentle and gracious to you. (From Isaiah 30:18)


Carol Donaldson,?Morganton, GA.?

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On Aug 2, 2016, at 12:01 AM, Wynne Eden weden003@... [alinerchaleta-frames] <alinerchaleta-frames@...> wrote:

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Carol

If your tank needs cleaning, both your shore and the tank lines probably do.? If you really expect to never, ever boondock, you can pull the tank and lines, but still need to plug them at the sink end and make sure your shore water lines are clean and clear.?

Unless there is visible crud (mildew and mold), or you desperately need the three square feet of storage that you gain by removing the tank, I would spend the couple of dollars for a gallon of bleach and clean the full system, both shore and tank.

If you wanna come to south GA, we can do it one weekend...well, someday....

Wynne Eden


Re: Purchase or not to

 

We purchased a 2016 Expedition model in 2015.? Don't let anyone fool you, like our dealer and Aliner Customer Service too, that "they've taken care of all the leaks".? The door leaks like a sieve, and water infiltrates from God knows where inside on the roof panel when closed.? C/S said it was "condensation".?

We wrote a letter to C/S last year about our escapades with our new camper, and no one ever responded.

Trying to fix things ourselves...with little luck.


Re: Water pump

 


The tank is very close to the pump. There isn't enough tool clearance to remove the four screws securing it to the sidewall so I remove the tank first.? Sounds like yours is attached to the floor. The strainer cover is designed to be removed by hand but there is no clearance for that.
The pump looks like this one:


With this strainer,


Looks like the strainer could be moved with an extension.

Fred


---In alinerchaleta-frames@..., <srtimm@...> wrote :

Have you tried removing the pump? ?Mine is held down with four screws. ?For me that would be easy compared to removing the tank-- that would be a beast of a job. ?Take the pump out and see if that strainer comes off. ?The pump has a non obvious little squeeze jobbie on it that makes disconnecting it easy once you know how. ?Maybe that would make the removal easier.


---In alinerchaleta-frames@..., <flarimer@...> wrote :

Steve,
The filter is more of a fine mesh strainer. Its located on the input side of the pump which must be the suction side. Its integrated with the pump housing. I don't think its possible to move the strainer on this pump.

The failure mode is always no water pumped. No air issues. So far, once the pump is out,? I've only removed the strainer bowl and cleaned it.? I wish I could get the strainer bowl off without removing the tank and pump. I just can't get my hand in there to twist it off.

I thought about moving the tank, there is room but that would mean another 2" hole for the drain. Don't really want to cut another hole in the floor. 2" is way over sized for the drain port but its nearly impossible to install the drain valve with the tank in place. The drain valve has to be installed before the tank is set in place.? The 2" hole is clearance for the drain valve.

Fred


---In alinerchaleta-frames@..., <srtimm@...> wrote :

That could be an air leak on the suction side of the pump. ?Those are almost impossible to find. ?Reseating the leaking seal by taking it apart and refastening will usually fix it. ?If that was the case the faucet would spit a mixture of water and air.

Is your filter on the suction side or the pressure side of the pump? ?I have a strainer on the suction side, and if I don't get it fastened well, it causes an air leak. ?

In your case I'd move that filter to a place you can access it. ?The filter is probably the most likely place for a leak.

Steve




Re: Water pump

 

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It seems that mine isn't priming too. Each time I pulled it out, cleaned the strainer and reinstalled, it worked again. The debris in the strainer didn't seem enough to stop it from working. I never thought of shaking the water lines.

---In alinerchaleta-frames@..., <srtimm@...> wrote :

You probably should remove the water pump and take apart the pump head. ?I had a sliver of plastic in mine and it was real hard to get it to prime. ?The pump would run and run to no effect, until I reached into that compartment and shook the water lines.


Re: Water take & lines

Wynne Eden
 

Carol

If your tank needs cleaning, both your shore and the tank lines probably do.? If you really expect to never, ever boondock, you can pull the tank and lines, but still need to plug them at the sink end and make sure your shore water lines are clean and clear.?

Unless there is visible crud (mildew and mold), or you desperately need the three square feet of storage that you gain by removing the tank, I would spend the couple of dollars for a gallon of bleach and clean the full system, both shore and tank.

If you wanna come to south GA, we can do it one weekend...well, someday....

Wynne Eden


Re: Water pump

 

You probably should remove the water pump and take apart the pump head. ?I had a sliver of plastic in mine and it was real hard to get it to prime. ?The pump would run and run to no effect, until I reached into that compartment and shook the water lines.


Re: Water pump

 

Have you tried removing the pump? ?Mine is held down with four screws. ?For me that would be easy compared to removing the tank-- that would be a beast of a job. ?Take the pump out and see if that strainer comes off. ?The pump has a non obvious little squeeze jobbie on it that makes disconnecting it easy once you know how. ?Maybe that would make the removal easier.


---In alinerchaleta-frames@..., <flarimer@...> wrote :

Steve,
The filter is more of a fine mesh strainer. Its located on the input side of the pump which must be the suction side. Its integrated with the pump housing. I don't think its possible to move the strainer on this pump.

The failure mode is always no water pumped. No air issues. So far, once the pump is out,? I've only removed the strainer bowl and cleaned it.? I wish I could get the strainer bowl off without removing the tank and pump. I just can't get my hand in there to twist it off.

I thought about moving the tank, there is room but that would mean another 2" hole for the drain. Don't really want to cut another hole in the floor. 2" is way over sized for the drain port but its nearly impossible to install the drain valve with the tank in place. The drain valve has to be installed before the tank is set in place.? The 2" hole is clearance for the drain valve.

Fred


---In alinerchaleta-frames@..., <srtimm@...> wrote :

That could be an air leak on the suction side of the pump. ?Those are almost impossible to find. ?Reseating the leaking seal by taking it apart and refastening will usually fix it. ?If that was the case the faucet would spit a mixture of water and air.

Is your filter on the suction side or the pressure side of the pump? ?I have a strainer on the suction side, and if I don't get it fastened well, it causes an air leak. ?

In your case I'd move that filter to a place you can access it. ?The filter is probably the most likely place for a leak.

Steve




Re: Water pump

 

Steve,
The filter is more of a fine mesh strainer. Its located on the input side of the pump which must be the suction side. Its integrated with the pump housing. I don't think its possible to move the strainer on this pump.

The failure mode is always no water pumped. No air issues. So far, once the pump is out,? I've only removed the strainer bowl and cleaned it.? I wish I could get the strainer bowl off without removing the tank and pump. I just can't get my hand in there to twist it off.

I thought about moving the tank, there is room but that would mean another 2" hole for the drain. Don't really want to cut another hole in the floor. 2" is way over sized for the drain port but its nearly impossible to install the drain valve with the tank in place. The drain valve has to be installed before the tank is set in place.? The 2" hole is clearance for the drain valve.

Fred


---In alinerchaleta-frames@..., <srtimm@...> wrote :

That could be an air leak on the suction side of the pump. ?Those are almost impossible to find. ?Reseating the leaking seal by taking it apart and refastening will usually fix it. ?If that was the case the faucet would spit a mixture of water and air.

Is your filter on the suction side or the pressure side of the pump? ?I have a strainer on the suction side, and if I don't get it fastened well, it causes an air leak. ?

In your case I'd move that filter to a place you can access it. ?The filter is probably the most likely place for a leak.

Steve




Re: Electrical hum from left brake on ALiner

Tom Whal
 

My Chalet's brakes make a high pitched squeal when the brakes are applied. I believe its normal to hear the noise as voltage is applied to the electromagnets.

Tom in his man cave in Albuquerque

08 Chalet Arrowhead????
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On Monday, August 1, 2016 5:30 PM, "jackoduc@... [alinerchaleta-frames]" wrote:


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When I was checking brake lights on my 2015 A-Liner Classic, I can hear electrical humming from the left brake.? When the brake peddle is released the humming stops.? Anyone have experience with the electric brakes on the A-Liners?? Why is there a humming coming from inside the brake drum?
Thanks
Jack McWilliams






Electrical hum from left brake on ALiner

 



When I was checking brake lights on my 2015 A-Liner Classic, I can hear electrical humming from the left brake.? When the brake peddle is released the humming stops.? Anyone have experience with the electric brakes on the A-Liners?? Why is there a humming coming from inside the brake drum?

Thanks

Jack McWilliams





Re: Water pump

 

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On Monday, August 1, 2016 11:21 PM, "srtimm@... [alinerchaleta-frames]" wrote:


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That could be an air leak on the suction side of the pump. ?Those are almost impossible to find. ?Reseating the leaking seal by taking it apart and refastening will usually fix it. ?If that was the case the faucet would spit a mixture of water and air.

Is your filter on the suction side or the pressure side of the pump? ?I have a strainer on the suction side, and if I don't get it fastened well, it causes an air leak. ?

In your case I'd move that filter to a place you can access it. ?The filter is probably the most likely place for a leak.

Steve






Re: Looking for advice and critiques - BAL storage

 

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On Monday, August 1, 2016 11:59 PM, "'Richard' richardzolnowski1@... [alinerchaleta-frames]" wrote:


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Ok, on our first big trip we found the need to prioritize storage and to get things out of the way.? So, I was looking at my BAL leveler and trying to figure out an easy way to mount it on the tongue…most methods seem somewhat cumbersome or complicated.
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I put the BAL on the frame around the propane tank, not touching, and was looking at it….then I lifted the narrower middle piece.? It dawned on me that two 2” ubolts would slip right in, go down around the frame, ?and hold it firm.? See the photo album “Richard BAL MOUNT”.? With the two pieces that are ratcheted to raise it, and the wrench, ?stored in the hold, it is solid, easy to get to, and out of the way.? Wing nuts would make it easy to undo.? The ubolts have a metal piece across the ends that holds it in place when the wing nuts are tightened.
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The angled wings on the BAL hold it in place, one on the outside of the frame and the one closest to the trailer on the inside of the frame.
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A bungee cord around the end will prevent the inner “U” from flopping and the BAL screw bolt holes can hold a chain to prevent casual theft.
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Does anyone see a problem carrying it this way??? Seems so simple that I have this feeling that I am missing something….and it is usually something important!!!
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Richard
2014 Aliner Ranger 12
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Looking for advice and critiques - BAL storage

Richard
 

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Ok, on our first big trip we found the need to prioritize storage and to get things out of the way.? So, I was looking at my BAL leveler and trying to figure out an easy way to mount it on the tongue…most methods seem somewhat cumbersome or complicated.

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I put the BAL on the frame around the propane tank, not touching, and was looking at it….then I lifted the narrower middle piece.? It dawned on me that two 2” ubolts would slip right in, go down around the frame, ?and hold it firm.? See the photo album “Richard BAL MOUNT”.? With the two pieces that are ratcheted to raise it, and the wrench, ?stored in the hold, it is solid, easy to get to, and out of the way.? Wing nuts would make it easy to undo.? The ubolts have a metal piece across the ends that holds it in place when the wing nuts are tightened.

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The angled wings on the BAL hold it in place, one on the outside of the frame and the one closest to the trailer on the inside of the frame.

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A bungee cord around the end will prevent the inner “U” from flopping and the BAL screw bolt holes can hold a chain to prevent casual theft.

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Does anyone see a problem carrying it this way??? Seems so simple that I have this feeling that I am missing something….and it is usually something important!!!

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Richard

2014 Aliner Ranger 12

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Re: Water pump

 

That could be an air leak on the suction side of the pump. ?Those are almost impossible to find. ?Reseating the leaking seal by taking it apart and refastening will usually fix it. ?If that was the case the faucet would spit a mixture of water and air.

Is your filter on the suction side or the pressure side of the pump? ?I have a strainer on the suction side, and if I don't get it fastened well, it causes an air leak. ?

In your case I'd move that filter to a place you can access it. ?The filter is probably the most likely place for a leak.

Steve




Water pump

 

The water pump in our 2012 Expedition has failed to pump water a number of times. Each? time the water tank has to be drained and? removed to reach the filter and spin it off. A few times there was visible stuff in the filter but a surprisingly small amount. This time it was a ring of sealant about the size of a dime. Each time the pump works after reassembly. The last two times I filled the tank from the hose at home. We have a? Kinetico water system with a big pre-filter. When I have the opportunity to fill the tank from a hose at a campground, I use the? water filter cartridge I use with hookups. Usually I fill two 5 gal buckets and transfer the water to the tank with a siphon hose. Only occasionally do the hydrants have a means of attaching the water filter cartridge.

Any suggestions for more reliability from our water pump?

Fred
2012 Expediton
2016 Pilot TV



Superior NF, MN

 

Hi all you northerners,

I'm planning a trip to the Superior NF, MN for September.? I'll arrive there on the weekend of 09/10-09/11 at Fall Lake in Ely.? This year they have a Harvest Moon Festival on that weekend.? Do you think I need to make a reservation to be sure that I get a site at Fall Lake?? I picked Fall Lake because they have electricity, flush toilets and showers.? Thanks for your advice.? Pat in the Palace in Dallas.


Re: Propane pigtail .... connector to regulator bypass valve

 

I noticed that you hadn't received a reply to your question.? It sounds like you have the correct approach.? My pigtail started leaking and I bought the Camco replacement.? It turned out the NPT to flare adapter was already screwed into the bypass valve, so I didn't need to buy another. I removed it, and put new Teflon tape on the NPT threads before reinstalling, then screwed in the flare fitting.? I tested with soapy water to ensure no leaks.

There was a discussion of this a little while back, titled Propane Smell. Here is the link to that discussion,

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Re: Generator Power

 

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Thanks!


On Jul 31, 2016, at 5:24 PM, 'J. Lynn Engle' jlynn1937_1999@... [alinerchaleta-frames] <alinerchaleta-frames@...> wrote:

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I purchased a Wen 2000 watt inverter/generator (1600 running watts) for $400 plus tax and $5 shipping.? It has a Yamaha engine (perhaps a clone) and it powers my 5000 BTU A/C and it does it on economy power and never strains to do so.? Anytime I would use another appliance I would cut the compressor off and just run the fan or turn the A/C off completely until I finished with the other appliance. It has performed flawlessly for over a year and always starts on the second or third pull.


Re: Wind Cheeta

 

My opinion: I like the Mendola protection scheme a lot ... Very cost effective.

However the square push tubes be CNW do exactly the same thing and have the addedadvantage of roof lift assist (which many find helpful)

Dave (tog)