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All you really need is a good roof and just enough heat to raise the internal temperature above ambient for most moist areas. We use small heaters or 150 watt lights to preserve electrical equipment in the moist Ohio Valley when we're putting together power plants. I'm not familiar with what sort of problems being close to the ocean might create.
Mike Wood, in Cincinnati, where, if we didn't get frost, we would live in a rain forest.

Kent Killam wrote:

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "Kent Killam" <soberman@a...>
wrote:

I might have problems when it gets cold keeping my machines from
rusting.

Yes you are...
I use both Mil-Spec CLP slathered all over exposed surfaces as well
as LPS #3. Also, if you can do it and afford it insulate and heat the
shed.

I need some assistance here folks. I live in the North East, Cape
Cod Mass to be exact. My work area is a 10x14 shed that has
electricity. My plan was to set up my shop there with a mill, lathe
and a few other tools to build my steam engines.

This past week in conversation, condensation came up, someone told
me I might have problems when it gets cold keeping my machines from
rusting. Anyone have any experiance keeping equipment in an
unheated area during the cold months? And here I was, thoinking I
have a good thing going. Thoughts, suggestions, pointers, all most
appreciated.

Thanks for any & all feedback.

Kent

I need some assistance here folks. I live in the North East, Cape
Cod Mass to be exact. My work area is a 10x14 shed that has
electricity. My plan was to set up my shop there with a mill, lathe
and a few other tools to build my steam engines.

This past week in conversation, condensation came up, someone told
me I might have problems when it gets cold keeping my machines from
rusting. Anyone have any experiance keeping equipment in an
unheated area during the cold months? And here I was, thoinking I
have a good thing going. Thoughts, suggestions, pointers, all most
appreciated.

Thanks for any & all feedback.

Kent

I have the one from LMS. It works well. Be sure to order the adapter plate and studs for it. You'll see those items in a reminder at the bottom of the chuck page. Nice thing about LMS is that Chris is always there for you if you have an issue. I buy things from HF, but only from the retail store. There's no one there to answer any technical questions.

- Charlie Starks

Sold, 4"-4 Jaw independent must be the way to go. Most of what I am
turning is round stock up to 10 inches long. And I need it as tight
and accurate as possible. I think when I'm ready to step up to a 5" I
will be ready to step up to a larger lathe.
Thanks for the help all,
Craig
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "roylowenthal"
<roylowenthal@y...> wrote:

4 jaw scroll chucks are of limited use. They can hold round,
square & octagonal stock; the 3 jaw can hold round & hexagonal
stock. Since most common threaded fasteners are hexagonal or have
hex heads, the 3 jaw scroll is handiest.
For the occasional square piece, dead-accurate round work,

offset

(camshaft/crankshaft looking stuff) & any other odd pieces, the 4-

jaw

independent is the way to go. 4-jaw scroll chucks are usually only
used by shops that turn lots of round sections on square pieces;

why

HF is offering them is a mystery to me!

Roy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "kraken_03" <kraken_03@y...>
wrote:

Thanks Frank and Jerry,
The HF 4"-4 Jaw chuck I was refering to P/N# 47461 for 59.99 self
centering. Has anyone used that one? I thought about the 5" and

read

up on it on mini-lathe.com. Still thinking about it. If you don't
want to go through the hasel of making a faceplate. Does anyone

sell

a faceplate for the 5"? Our could the LMS 6.25 Faceplate be

modified

our just used for the 5" chuck?
Thanks again,
Craig


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Frank Hoose <fhoose@y...>

wrote:

The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.

Frank Hoose


--- Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...> wrote:

I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF
7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and
the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me.
I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.

Jerry

At 08:45 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:

I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for

my Homier. LMS has

one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF

has one for 59.00

self centering. Any suggestions? I've already

bought the adapter

plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to

put on it.


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Here's a link to the Reference section of the
mini-lathe.com links page. There are many useful links
there, including the ones to the Army manuals.



Frank Hoose


--- Jerry Smith <jfsmith@...> wrote:

Roy,
Could you point the way to those government
publications? It may
help us all.

Jerry

At 11:58 PM 6/25/2003, you wrote:

The round bits are nice in shop-made boring

bars; easier to make a

round hole than a square hole (ease of manufacture

is offset by

difficulty of aligning tool.)
On the 7x10 group, there are links to

downloadable USN & USAR

training manuals and older, public domain texts.

Roy

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4 jaw scroll chucks are of limited use. They can hold round,
square & octagonal stock; the 3 jaw can hold round & hexagonal
stock. Since most common threaded fasteners are hexagonal or have
hex heads, the 3 jaw scroll is handiest.
For the occasional square piece, dead-accurate round work, offset
(camshaft/crankshaft looking stuff) & any other odd pieces, the 4-jaw
independent is the way to go. 4-jaw scroll chucks are usually only
used by shops that turn lots of round sections on square pieces; why
HF is offering them is a mystery to me!

Roy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., "kraken_03" <kraken_03@y...>
wrote:

Thanks Frank and Jerry,
The HF 4"-4 Jaw chuck I was refering to P/N# 47461 for 59.99 self
centering. Has anyone used that one? I thought about the 5" and

read

up on it on mini-lathe.com. Still thinking about it. If you don't
want to go through the hasel of making a faceplate. Does anyone

sell

a faceplate for the 5"? Our could the LMS 6.25 Faceplate be

modified

our just used for the 5" chuck?
Thanks again,
Craig


--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Frank Hoose <fhoose@y...>

wrote:

The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.

Frank Hoose


--- Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...> wrote:

I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF
7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and
the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me.
I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.

Jerry

At 08:45 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:

I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for

my Homier. LMS has

one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF

has one for 59.00

self centering. Any suggestions? I've already

bought the adapter

plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to

put on it.


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Roy,
I knew of the Army one, it's not just for reserves(USAR), but the
MSU site is great.

Jerry

Jerry,
Here's a direct link to the USAR manual:


Here's the University of Michigan digital collection; "Modern
Machine Shop Practice" vols 1&2 & "The Advanced Machinist" are in
here:


And a link to the USN manual (I could have sworn there was a link
on the 7x10 group):


Roy
--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Jerry Smith <jfsmith@a...>
wrote:

Roy,
Could you point the way to those government publications?

It may

help us all.

Jerry

At 11:58 PM 6/25/2003, you wrote:

The round bits are nice in shop-made boring bars; easier to

make a

round hole than a square hole (ease of manufacture is offset by
difficulty of aligning tool.)
On the 7x10 group, there are links to downloadable USN & USAR
training manuals and older, public domain texts.

Roy

I don't think hexagons will work to well in the 4 jaw. Maybe octagons.

Tom

why not get a 4 jaw self centring chuck,? you can then hold round,

square

and hexagonal all in one chuck

DAVID WILLIAMS
BOLTON
ENGLAND
www.smartgroups.com/groups/fliers

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.>>>>>>>>>


why not get a 4 jaw self centring chuck,? you can then hold round, square
and hexagonal all in one chuck

DAVID WILLIAMS
BOLTON
ENGLAND
www.smartgroups.com/groups/fliers

I took the face plate that I bought from HF, laid the chuck on it,
and found where I had to mill new slots. So half and hour later, I was up
and running with the 5 inch chuck.

Hope this helps,

Jerry

A couple of notes:

1. this chuck will not give you the versatility of an independent 4 jaw which imnsho is much more valuable than having a somewhat larger self-centering chuck (be it 3 jaw, 4 jaw or 6 jaw.)

2. Hf's web site lists accuracy as .005 mm which is an obvious error. probably more like .005 inches.

3. Can anyone recommend an inexpensive 4" 4 jaw INDEPENDENT chuck for the mini lathe?
Regards
Bob


kraken_03 wrote:

Thanks Frank and Jerry,
The HF 4"-4 Jaw chuck I was refering to P/N# 47461 for 59.99 self
centering. Has anyone used that one? I thought about the 5" and read
up on it on mini-lathe.com. Still thinking about it. If you don't
want to go through the hasel of making a faceplate. Does anyone sell
a faceplate for the 5"? Our could the LMS 6.25 Faceplate be modified
our just used for the 5" chuck?
Thanks again,
Craig

The 3-jaw chuck is more convenient for most work due
to the time savings of its self-centering feature. The
4 jaw is an almost essential accessory for precise
centering, off-center work and holding odd shapes, but
takes more time to set up the work.

Frank Hoose


--- Jerry Smith <jfsmith@...> wrote:

I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF
7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and
the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me.
I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.

Jerry

At 08:45 AM 6/26/2003, you wrote:

I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for

my Homier. LMS has

one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF

has one for 59.00

self centering. Any suggestions? I've already

bought the adapter

plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to

put on it.


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I bought the 5 inch 3 jawed chuck for my HF 7 x 10 and found it to
be extremely useful. I do a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck and the 3 inch 3 jaw that
came with the lathe. The 5 inch works great for me. I paid $60.00 and
shipping for it from Enco.




Jerry

I am looking to purchase a 4 inch 4 jaw chuck for my Homier. LMS has
one for 69.00 and it is a independently adj., HF has one for 59.00
self centering. Any suggestions? I've already bought the adapter
plate from LMS. Just looking for the best chuck to put on it.

lecompte126 wrote:

What is the small 1/8" bit used for, some small delicate work?

Some small boring bars use 1/8" bits. I got one from Grizzly that required them.
Regards
Bob

Roy,
Could you point the way to those government publications? It may
help us all.

Jerry