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Re: left hand thread cutting

 

The premium content article is good. I learned to thread at my school on the lathe, but i subscribed to the article anyways. The only thing i did not like was the setup explanation. The drivetrain explanation is good, but its the tool setup i did not like. Like using the center gage to make sure the tool is perpendicular and centered.



gerry waclawiak wrote:

you need to subscribe to the premium content either for the article or for
the whole lot. Very good for a newbie I subscribed myself for my first year

Gerry
Leeds, UK
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Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: left hand thread cutting


hi

where can i find that article i have looked till i'm googley eyed??

thanks

mack

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Harrison <msteveharrison@...>
Sent: Oct 17, 2005 7:29 AM
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Re: left hand thread cutting

I found it worth the money to purchase the premium content article from
mini-lathe.com on threading. I am a complete n00b but i was able to make
successful right-hand threads without using a die on aluminum and drill
rod (1/4-20, M6x1.0, M10x1.5) after my first few failed attempts.

Stephen

Bruce, Can you explain How you cut threads, left or
right on a lathe. I understsnd that the lead screw
controls the pitch of the thread. but how do you cut a
thread and spiral to the next thread? Do you back off
the 29.5degree cutting tool by visual observation?I
understand this is why there is a a thread dial on a
lathe. Many machinists don't use them, How do they cut
threads? Are there any simple .easy to understand
,step by step books or articles on threading . I own
a Cummins 7x10 and a Jet 9x20 and can't cut threads on
either of them. Thankyou Bill Amaradio
--- Bernard Goguelet <phantomcow3@...> wrote:

Bruce Leo Hartmann wrote:

Yep, I made a new 10X1mm left hand lead screw
for the cross slide on
my old style Homier. I used 9/16" oil hardening
(although I didn't
harden the screw) drill rod. I made it 3/4" longer
than standard and
.007" larger in diameter. It cut very smoothly and
turned out perfect.
I did first order a 21 tooth gear from Uncle Rabid
and I made (and
used) a hand crank for the threading operation. No
problem at all.
Since you're doing 20 tpi you won't need any
special gears. A standard
thread file or 7/16" LH die will make the final
clean up much
smoother. Make sure your tailstock center is in
perfect alignment with
your headstock. You do not want ANY taper.)

--- In 7x12minilathe@..., Bernard
Goguelet
<phantomcow3@c...> wrote:

Has anybody cut left hand threads using their
mini lathe?
I am making a new leadscrew for this lathe,
7/16-20. At school i
threaded a left hand screw for the first time,
but this is an
industrial
machine. I could wait until monday to cut my
leadscrew, but im feeling
impatient.What has been peoples reactions to
left hand threads cut on
this machine?
-Bernard




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well, I decided i will use the lathe at school. I
dont trust my
headstock and tailstock alignment just yet. And the
one at school has a
taper of .002 over 24". Considering my new leadscrew
is not even half of
that, i can live with it :).
-Bernard


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Re: Cummins arrived

Boss
 

I would like to know something about the Cummins lathe and where one can be bought.

It is time to get some regulations placed on UPS and Fedex...like no signature=no proof of delivery. UPS has been very abusive and has cost me dearly. It is time that these people learn that they are paid for SERVICE. The post office isn't doing too hot either... not when it takes 12 days to get a 1 pound package from LaFayette, LA to a town in West Texas.

As for weight. I worked for NCR for many years and carried a little fold up wheeled dolly in the station wagon to roll the heavy cash registers in and out of a customers place of business. Never strained a muscle. I guess the younger generation driving the vehicles are just weak pussies.

----- Original Message -----
From: tonyhursh
To: 7x12minilathe@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:48 AM
Subject: [7x12minilathe] Cummins arrived


My Cummins lathe arrived late yesterday afternoon. I spent some time
last night cleaning off the cosmoline-like red grease and doing the
small amount of assembly required (mostly just putting on a few
handles).

I haven't fired it up yet; that will happen tonight. So far my overall
impression is good. The extra tooling that comes with it is a nice
plus (that's what persuaded me to go with Cummins, actually).

I remember reading a few weeks back that Cummins had temporarily
suspended shipping the lathes due to excessive damage in shipment. It
looks like the solution they came up with is to make an outer
cardboard shell around the normal box, with extra space on the ends
that get filled with that expanding foam goop. It seems to have worked
okay in my case. The outer case is generic cardboard, so it isn't
obvious what the package is. That'd be a bonus if you lived in a
neighborhood where machine tools might grow legs and walk off if the
delivery guy left them on the porch. That's not really an issue around
here, but I think someone expressed concern about that a while back.

An oddity: although I was told that shipping would occur via UPS when
I ordered, the package actually came via FedEx. Cummins notified me of
this change and gave me a tracking number, so that's not a big deal.
Maybe they've switched to FedEx?

The FedEx guy was NOT happy about the package weight. Someone at FedEx
had scribbled "Heavy!!!!" on the box with a red crayon. Heh.

So far I'm pleased.I'll post again after I finish setting it up and
make a few chips.

-- Tony



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I bought one at HF Houston a couple weeks ago and got both sale price and 20% off, but it took a half-hour wait while they found someone to approve the 20% coupon. Net cost $399


Turning Brass and Aluminum on a 7x14

Brice D. Hornback - KA8MAV
 

Hello. What's the best way to chuck material in a lathe without it
getting all scratched, dinged, and gouged up? I've been finding,
especially with brass, that I have to tighten it in the chuck very
tightly to keep it in there... which puts deep indentations in the
brass stock. Is there a way to prevent this if I were turning
something that couldn't just have the end cut off?

Thanks,
Brice


Re: Turning Brass and Aluminum on a 7x14

 

Make a sleeve out of some aluminum flashing, or just
use small pieces of flashing under each jaw to protect
the workpiece. Some guys cut up alumimum beer or soda
cans for this purpose.



Frank Hoose


--- "Brice D. Hornback - KA8MAV" <bdh@...>
wrote:
Hello. What's the best way to chuck material in a
lathe without it
getting all scratched, dinged, and gouged up? I've
been finding,
especially with brass, that I have to tighten it in
the chuck very
tightly to keep it in there... which puts deep
indentations in the
brass stock. Is there a way to prevent this if I
were turning
something that couldn't just have the end cut off?

Thanks,
Brice


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Re: Turning Brass and Aluminum on a 7x14

Brice D. Hornback
 

That's exactly what I was looking for.

THANKS!
- Brice

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To: <7x12minilathe@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [7x12minilathe] Turning Brass and Aluminum on a 7x14


Make a sleeve out of some aluminum flashing, or just
use small pieces of flashing under each jaw to protect
the workpiece. Some guys cut up alumimum beer or soda
cans for this purpose.


s

Frank Hoose


--- "Brice D. Hornback - KA8MAV" <bdh@...>
wrote:
Hello. What's the best way to chuck material in a
lathe without it
getting all scratched, dinged, and gouged up? I've
been finding,
especially with brass, that I have to tighten it in
the chuck very
tightly to keep it in there... which puts deep
indentations in the
brass stock. Is there a way to prevent this if I
were turning
something that couldn't just have the end cut off?

Thanks,
Brice


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Indexable Inserts

Brice D. Hornback
 

LMS has several different types of turning tools that take the indexable
inserts. My question is, what's the difference between these two types of
inserts?

TCMM inserts
TCMT Inserts

Thanks,
Brice


Correcting Lathe accuracy

 

Good Morning All:

Having trouble setting up a Homier 7X12 lathe recently
purchased. This lathe is turning a taper from tailstock to headstock
no matter how much adjustment I make to correct tailstock setover. Is
it possible that the tail and head are not set parallel to eachother?
Has anyone else run across the same difficulty? Any advice on this
problem, with methods to correct it would be greatly appreciated, as
this little unit appears to be a good value for the money. Best
regards, Nick


Re: Correcting Lathe accuracy

 

It seems unlikely to me that the HS is out of
alignment. The TS easily could be, but you can get it
close enough for most work by simply turning a point
onto a piece of stock using the compound and bringing
the point of a dead center mounted in the TS to meet
it (see photo).

What diameter stock are you turning and how are you
holding it?

Frank Hoose



--- ntdefeo <ntdefeo@...> wrote:
Good Morning All:

Having trouble setting up a Homier 7X12 lathe
recently
purchased. This lathe is turning a taper from
tailstock to headstock
no matter how much adjustment I make to correct
tailstock setover. Is
it possible that the tail and head are not set
parallel to eachother?
Has anyone else run across the same difficulty? Any
advice on this
problem, with methods to correct it would be greatly
appreciated, as
this little unit appears to be a good value for the
money. Best
regards, Nick



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Re: Correcting Lathe accuracy

 

Good Morning Frank,

I am turning 1/2" dia 6061 aluminum and 1/2" 12L14 stock. Using
a dial indicator on the carriage, I am seeing .010" reading from the
chuck (standard 3 jaw) to the ts, measuring against the rear of the
stock. On the top of the stock, I am seeing a 020" from the chuck to
the ts, with the live center bearing on the stock, or not. Is it
possible the hs is not correctly aligned with the bed, and ts height?
I am a former machinist, although that was many years ago, and am
just getting back into it as a hobby. I was thinking that either
shimming the hs to the ts height to correct the difference, and
perhaps some judicial filing of the hs base to correct the
parallelism to the bed. Any tricks you could provide would be greatly
appreciated. Best regards, Nick

-- In 7x12minilathe@y..., Frank Hoose <fhoose@y...> wrote:
It seems unlikely to me that the HS is out of
alignment. The TS easily could be, but you can get it
close enough for most work by simply turning a point
onto a piece of stock using the compound and bringing
the point of a dead center mounted in the TS to meet
it (see photo).

What diameter stock are you turning and how are you
holding it?

Frank Hoose



--- ntdefeo <ntdefeo@y...> wrote:
Good Morning All:

Having trouble setting up a Homier 7X12 lathe
recently
purchased. This lathe is turning a taper from
tailstock to headstock
no matter how much adjustment I make to correct
tailstock setover. Is
it possible that the tail and head are not set
parallel to eachother?
Has anyone else run across the same difficulty? Any
advice on this
problem, with methods to correct it would be greatly
appreciated, as
this little unit appears to be a good value for the
money. Best
regards, Nick



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Re: Correcting Lathe accuracy

Bob Colquitt
 

Nick,
Was reading in an old PM Shop Notes last night a possible solution.
Buy yourself a piece of ground drill rod a touch over 10" long -
something which will go thru the spindle - 1/2" dia.?
Center in your chuck and center drill both ends. Mark a spot near both
ends with the marks 10" apart.
Put centers in both your spindle and tailstock and mount your test rod.
Mount a dial indicator in your tool post and ck the height on the rod
at both marks and then ck the side at both marks.
This will quickly tell you if your tailstock is too hi/lo, off to one
side or the other, or both. From there you will be able to know what is off.
Good Luck,
-=- Bob

Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:16:31 -0000
From: "ntdefeo" <ntdefeo@...>
Subject: Correcting Lathe accuracy

Good Morning All:

Having trouble setting up a Homier 7X12 lathe recently
purchased. This lathe is turning a taper from tailstock to headstock
no matter how much adjustment I make to correct tailstock setover. Is
it possible that the tail and head are not set parallel to eachother?
Has anyone else run across the same difficulty? Any advice on this
problem, with methods to correct it would be greatly appreciated, as
this little unit appears to be a good value for the money. Best
regards, Nickc


Re: Correcting Lathe accuracy

 

Good Morning Bob:
I appreciate the quick response and will try this method. Should the ts prove to be too high, would it be better to shim the hs, or lower the ts with some careful filing of the base assembly? I realize some of the problem is due to the carriage assembly needing adjustment, and will tend to that issue prior to testing the hs/ts alignment. Thanks for the info. Sincerely, Nick
Bob Colquitt <wahsatch@...> wrote:Nick,
Was reading in an old PM Shop Notes last night a possible solution.
Buy yourself a piece of ground drill rod a touch over 10" long -
something which will go thru the spindle - 1/2" dia.?
Center in your chuck and center drill both ends. Mark a spot near both
ends with the marks 10" apart.
Put centers in both your spindle and tailstock and mount your test rod.
Mount a dial indicator in your tool post and ck the height on the rod
at both marks and then ck the side at both marks.
This will quickly tell you if your tailstock is too hi/lo, off to one
side or the other, or both. From there you will be able to know what is off.
Good Luck,
-=- Bob

Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 17:16:31 -0000
From: "ntdefeo" <ntdefeo@...>
Subject: Correcting Lathe accuracy

Good Morning All:

Having trouble setting up a Homier 7X12 lathe recently
purchased. This lathe is turning a taper from tailstock to headstock
no matter how much adjustment I make to correct tailstock setover. Is
it possible that the tail and head are not set parallel to eachother?
Has anyone else run across the same difficulty? Any advice on this
problem, with methods to correct it would be greatly appreciated, as
this little unit appears to be a good value for the money. Best
regards, Nickc
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Carbide Insert decoding

Bob Colquitt
 

Here's a website with the info for decoding carbide inserts:



-=- Bob


Re: Correcting Lathe accuracy

 

Here's a link to an article by Jose Rodriguez that may
be helpful. Also some info by Rick Kruger




--- ntdefeo <ntdefeo@...> wrote:
Good Morning Frank,

I am turning 1/2" dia 6061 aluminum and 1/2"
12L14 stock. Using
a dial indicator on the carriage, I am seeing .010"
reading from the
chuck (standard 3 jaw) to the ts, measuring against
the rear of the
stock. On the top of the stock, I am seeing a 020"
from the chuck to
the ts, with the live center bearing on the stock,
or not. Is it
possible the hs is not correctly aligned with the
bed, and ts height?
I am a former machinist, although that was many
years ago, and am
just getting back into it as a hobby. I was thinking
that either
shimming the hs to the ts height to correct the
difference, and
perhaps some judicial filing of the hs base to
correct the
parallelism to the bed. Any tricks you could provide
would be greatly
appreciated. Best regards, Nick






-- In 7x12minilathe@y..., Frank Hoose <fhoose@y...>
wrote:
It seems unlikely to me that the HS is out of
alignment. The TS easily could be, but you can get
it
close enough for most work by simply turning a
point
onto a piece of stock using the compound and
bringing
the point of a dead center mounted in the TS to
meet
it (see photo).

What diameter stock are you turning and how are
you
holding it?

Frank Hoose



--- ntdefeo <ntdefeo@y...> wrote:
Good Morning All:

Having trouble setting up a Homier 7X12
lathe
recently
purchased. This lathe is turning a taper from
tailstock to headstock
no matter how much adjustment I make to correct
tailstock setover. Is
it possible that the tail and head are not set
parallel to eachother?
Has anyone else run across the same difficulty?
Any
advice on this
problem, with methods to correct it would be
greatly
appreciated, as
this little unit appears to be a good value for
the
money. Best
regards, Nick



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Re: Ck'g Tailstock

Bob Colquitt
 

Nick,
I'm on digest mode so my response is slow coming.

First thing to do is pull your tailstock off and ck for burrs, rough
spots, etc. after you do the initial alignment ck. Use a small, fine
file to ease off.

To ck for hi/lo spots, use markup dye [Magic Marker will work also]
and a good straightedge on the wear surfaces of the TS. To clean small
areas, I use toilet paper dipped in rubbing alcohol - any burr/rough
spot will tear the paper. Need to remember to re-oil afterwards as RA
has water in it.

Might also pull your headstock and ck also if you find anything on the
tailstock. The reason why is after you use the lathe, the headstock
could settle and your alignment would be off again.

That's the problem with the Chinese stuff - in order to keep it cheap,
shortcuts are taken. Besides, taking the lathe apart will teach you a lot.
Keep some bandaids and hydrogen peroxide around because the burrs can
be sharp!
-=- Bob


Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 07:51:25 -0800 (PST)

From: Nick DeFeo <ntdefeo@...>
Subject: Re: Correcting Lathe accuracy

Good Morning Bob:
I appreciate the quick response and will try this method. Should the ts prove to be too high, would it be better to shim the hs, or lower the ts with some careful filing of the base assembly? I realize some of the problem is due to the carriage assembly needing adjustment, and will tend to that issue prior to testing the hs/ts alignment. Thanks for the info. Sincerely, Nick


Re: center to center

 

Retaining the same dimensions you gave, could you do it on a 7X10?

Frankie


Re: center to center

 

So, that would imply, as to lathe size, the bigger the better, no?

Frankie


center to center

lathechuck
 

With all the talk about bed length, it seems to me the only space
that matters is how much space you have between the work piece in a
chuck and tool bit in the compound
Frankie


Re: center to center

Paul W. Chamberlain
 

Frankie,

For the lack of a better example, I'll try this one...

Imagine you had a big 1" bolt, 12" long. You want to face the underside of the head, and turn the flats off the bottom 1/8" of the hex portion.

You could hold the top portion of the bolt head in the chuck, and support the threaded end of the bolt at the tailstock. All of the work would take place within a 1" area near the chuck, but the between center space allows the full length handling of the project.

Paul, Central OR


lathechuck wrote:

With all the talk about bed length, it seems to me the only space that matters is how much space you have between the work piece in a chuck and tool bit in the compound
Frankie


Re: center to center

Paul W. Chamberlain
 

No...

With the HF 7x10, the working distance with the chuck mounted is more like 8". They use the older convention of distance between tapered centers mounted at both the headstock and tailstock to get 10".

Also, the headstock spindle bore would not take 1" stock for trying to hold the bolt by its shank with just the head exposed. The bore is just under 13/16", and some users have used a reamer to open it up to a full 13/16".

Paul, Central OR


franksjoy@... wrote:

Retaining the same dimensions you gave, could you do it on a 7X10?
Frankie