Bietjie laat, maar nogtans: “ek het my gate uit geniet” het ek al baie gehoor. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kas Smit
Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2022 18:50
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Blast!? Ek het pret gehad is vir my doodgewone Afrikaans. ? On 31/08/2022 17:56, Lynette Posthumus via wrote:
> Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met
> een woord?
Kan jy kroek en "vetpret" gebruik?
Samuel
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Learning from our own consequential behaviour is called … learning. ? Om uit jou eie voortvloeiende gedrag te leer, word ... leer genoem. Ek het dit voorlopig met uitvoerende leer vertaal. ? My Sielkundewoordeboek lewer niks op nie. Kan iemand help? ? Groete Lynette
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Mooi een vir ‘n Vrydag, Leona. ? ?
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Sent: 02 September 2022 09:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed? Hi Tony Jy laat my nou dink aan Punch: We have seen the enemy and they is us.?? : - ) ___________________________________________________________________ Leona Labuschagne, Translator???? |???? 083 302 2632??? |???? SA??? GMT +2 ? ? ? ? As mens gewoond is aan Germaanse tale, waar sulke diskordansies nie voorkom nie, sluk mens maar swaar aan die Engelse gewoonte om na die interpretasie van versamelname te kyk ipv die grammatikale vorm. ? Sien gister bv “Argentina replace xxx with zzz in yyy team” op BBC se nuus. Dis mos nie ’n besluit van die individuele spelers nie… ? Hulle is net so laks met voornaaamwoorde: “Everyone must leave their books on their desks”. In die waan dat dit nie-seksistieser is nie, al word vroue in die VK nog steeds minder as mans vir dieselfde werk betaal. ? These humans are crazy, sou Obelix gesê het. ? ? ? ? A group were seen? Ek dink nie ’n mens kan die re?l vir “number” oordra op “group” nie. ? ? ? CAUTION: This email originated outside of the City of Cape Town’s network. Please do not click on any links or open attachments unless you know and trust the source. STOP. THINK. VERIFY. |
? Daar is ook nog Fowler se kommentaaroor die getal van die woord ‘number’: As number deur ‘a’ voorafgegaan word, is ‘number’ meervoud, en as dit deur ‘the’ voorafgegaan word, is dit enkelvoud. Dit gaan oor waar die klem val. Dieselfde sal geld vir ‘group’. Kas ? Sent from for Windows ? ? Ek moet met Kas saamstem, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van die resultaat nie. Dit herinner my aan die vraag of “Elliott [die verhuisingsfirma] is amazing” of “Elliott are amazing” korrek is. Dit was jare gelede die firma se radioslagspreuk, en daar was blykbaar kritiek daarop. Waarna die firma iets prakseer het soos “Whether you think Elliott is amazing or are amazing….” ? Mens kan sulke keuses tussen die duiwel en die diep blou see pypkan deur herformulering: ? The group, comprising people from common backgrounds and with shared experiences, meets to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs and views on a specific topic. Weglating van “brought together” is geen verlies nie; “the group meets” volg vanselfsprekend, en die komma voor “and” kan ook maar waai. Die Amerikaners is dol daaroor (hulle noem dit die Harvard-komma), maar die Britte (wat dit die Oxford-komma noem) is nie: “Strangely enough, while the comma is so named after the Oxford University Press, which requires it in its style guidelines, it’s not exactly popular in Britain. The anti-comma camp is loudest there, and those who oppose this punctuation mark argue it’s unnecessary and clutters up a sentence.” (
? ? ? Group is 'n versamelnaam. Is en are is albei reg na gelang daarvan of jy group as 'n enkel ding sien of as bestaande uit 'n klomp enkelinge. In jou teks kom die meervoud baie sterk deur. ? On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, 16:42 Lynette Posthumus via , <lynetteposthumus=[email protected]> wrote: Hallo almal ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, are brought together to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? Should this be? ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, is brought together to share its insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? I think I have been working on this thesis too long now ? ? Thanks Lynette
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Re: English grammar help needed
In ‘the number...’ is die onderwerp ook die eersvolgende s.nw., wat meervoud sal wees. Die verskil bly dus klem. ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: Tony MoenSent: Friday, 02 September 2022 10:00 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed ? Daardie re?l is m.i. heel logies, en nie ’n geval van klem nie. ? A number of / some / a few / many / several is almal onbepaalde telwoorde/telfrases, en die onderwerp is die daaropvolgende s. nw., wat meervoud sal wees (bv. cars were damaged). ? In “The number of …” is die onderwerp die woord “number”, wat enkelvoud is; dus “…has risen sharply recently”. ? ? Daar is ook nog Fowler se kommentaaroor die getal van die woord ‘number’: As number deur ‘a’ voorafgegaan word, is ‘number’ meervoud, en as dit deur ‘the’ voorafgegaan word, is dit enkelvoud. Dit gaan oor waar die klem val. Dieselfde sal geld vir ‘group’. Kas ? Sent from for Windows ? ? Ek moet met Kas saamstem, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van die resultaat nie. Dit herinner my aan die vraag of “Elliott [die verhuisingsfirma] is amazing” of “Elliott are amazing” korrek is. Dit was jare gelede die firma se radioslagspreuk, en daar was blykbaar kritiek daarop. Waarna die firma iets prakseer het soos “Whether you think Elliott is amazing or are amazing….” ? Mens kan sulke keuses tussen die duiwel en die diep blou see pypkan deur herformulering: ? The group, comprising people from common backgrounds and with shared experiences, meets to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs and views on a specific topic. Weglating van “brought together” is geen verlies nie; “the group meets” volg vanselfsprekend, en die komma voor “and” kan ook maar waai. Die Amerikaners is dol daaroor (hulle noem dit die Harvard-komma), maar die Britte (wat dit die Oxford-komma noem) is nie: “Strangely enough, while the comma is so named after the Oxford University Press, which requires it in its style guidelines, it’s not exactly popular in Britain. The anti-comma camp is loudest there, and those who oppose this punctuation mark argue it’s unnecessary and clutters up a sentence.” (
? ? ? Group is 'n versamelnaam. Is en are is albei reg na gelang daarvan of jy group as 'n enkel ding sien of as bestaande uit 'n klomp enkelinge. In jou teks kom die meervoud baie sterk deur. ? On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, 16:42 Lynette Posthumus via , <lynetteposthumus=[email protected]> wrote: Hallo almal ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, are brought together to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? Should this be? ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, is brought together to share its insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? I think I have been working on this thesis too long now ? ? Thanks Lynette
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Ek dink dis die eintlike kern van die saak – of die komma begrip van die stelling bevorder of nie. Dit mistasting is om die gebruik (al dan nie) te verabsoluteer. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chavoux Luyt
Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2022 12:38
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed? Akademia is lief vir die Oxford (of Harvard ;-) ) komma, omdat dit dubbelsinnigheid wegneem (soms). Waar klaarheid en duidelikheid belangrik is en terselfdertyd bondigheid, kan dit baie help.
Jammer, ons is nou van die punt af, maar ek het nie te lank terug nie my eie tesis moes opskryf en het maar gesukkel met die akademiese Engelse taal (veral die voorkeur vir die lydende vorm).
Groete
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Daardie re?l is m.i. heel logies, en nie ’n geval van klem nie. ? A number of / some / a few / many / several is almal onbepaalde telwoorde/telfrases, en die onderwerp is die daaropvolgende s. nw., wat meervoud sal wees (bv. cars were damaged). ? In “The number of …” is die onderwerp die woord “number”, wat enkelvoud is; dus “…has risen sharply recently”. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kas Smit
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August 2022 10:53
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed? Daar is ook nog Fowler se kommentaaroor die getal van die woord ‘number’: As number deur ‘a’ voorafgegaan word, is ‘number’ meervoud, en as dit deur ‘the’ voorafgegaan word, is dit enkelvoud. Dit gaan oor waar die klem val. Dieselfde sal geld vir ‘group’. Kas ? Sent from for Windows ? ? Ek moet met Kas saamstem, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van die resultaat nie. Dit herinner my aan die vraag of “Elliott [die verhuisingsfirma] is amazing” of “Elliott are amazing” korrek is. Dit was jare gelede die firma se radioslagspreuk, en daar was blykbaar kritiek daarop. Waarna die firma iets prakseer het soos “Whether you think Elliott is amazing or are amazing….” ? Mens kan sulke keuses tussen die duiwel en die diep blou see pypkan deur herformulering: ? The group, comprising people from common backgrounds and with shared experiences, meets to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs and views on a specific topic. Weglating van “brought together” is geen verlies nie; “the group meets” volg vanselfsprekend, en die komma voor “and” kan ook maar waai. Die Amerikaners is dol daaroor (hulle noem dit die Harvard-komma), maar die Britte (wat dit die Oxford-komma noem) is nie: “Strangely enough, while the comma is so named after the Oxford University Press, which requires it in its style guidelines, it’s not exactly popular in Britain. The anti-comma camp is loudest there, and those who oppose this punctuation mark argue it’s unnecessary and clutters up a sentence.” (
? ? ? Group is 'n versamelnaam. Is en are is albei reg na gelang daarvan of jy group as 'n enkel ding sien of as bestaande uit 'n klomp enkelinge. In jou teks kom die meervoud baie sterk deur. ? On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, 16:42 Lynette Posthumus via , <lynetteposthumus=[email protected]> wrote: Hallo almal ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, are brought together to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? Should this be? ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, is brought together to share its insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? I think I have been working on this thesis too long now ? ? Thanks Lynette
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Hi Tony Jy laat my nou dink aan Punch: We have seen the enemy and they is us.?? : - ) ___________________________________________________________________ Leona Labuschagne, Translator???? |???? 083 302 2632??? |???? SA??? GMT +2 ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Tony Moen
Sent: Friday, 02 September 2022 09:49
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed? As mens gewoond is aan Germaanse tale, waar sulke diskordansies nie voorkom nie, sluk mens maar swaar aan die Engelse gewoonte om na die interpretasie van versamelname te kyk ipv die grammatikale vorm. ? Sien gister bv “Argentina replace xxx with zzz in yyy team” op BBC se nuus. Dis mos nie ’n besluit van die individuele spelers nie… ? Hulle is net so laks met voornaaamwoorde: “Everyone must leave their books on their desks”. In die waan dat dit nie-seksistieser is nie, al word vroue in die VK nog steeds minder as mans vir dieselfde werk betaal. ? These humans are crazy, sou Obelix gesê het. ? ? ? ? A group were seen? Ek dink nie ’n mens kan die re?l vir “number” oordra op “group” nie. ? ? ? CAUTION: This email originated outside of the City of Cape Town’s network. Please do not click on any links or open attachments unless you know and trust the source. STOP. THINK. VERIFY. |
? Daar is ook nog Fowler se kommentaaroor die getal van die woord ‘number’: As number deur ‘a’ voorafgegaan word, is ‘number’ meervoud, en as dit deur ‘the’ voorafgegaan word, is dit enkelvoud. Dit gaan oor waar die klem val. Dieselfde sal geld vir ‘group’. Kas ? Sent from for Windows ? ? Ek moet met Kas saamstem, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van die resultaat nie. Dit herinner my aan die vraag of “Elliott [die verhuisingsfirma] is amazing” of “Elliott are amazing” korrek is. Dit was jare gelede die firma se radioslagspreuk, en daar was blykbaar kritiek daarop. Waarna die firma iets prakseer het soos “Whether you think Elliott is amazing or are amazing….” ? Mens kan sulke keuses tussen die duiwel en die diep blou see pypkan deur herformulering: ? The group, comprising people from common backgrounds and with shared experiences, meets to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs and views on a specific topic. Weglating van “brought together” is geen verlies nie; “the group meets” volg vanselfsprekend, en die komma voor “and” kan ook maar waai. Die Amerikaners is dol daaroor (hulle noem dit die Harvard-komma), maar die Britte (wat dit die Oxford-komma noem) is nie: “Strangely enough, while the comma is so named after the Oxford University Press, which requires it in its style guidelines, it’s not exactly popular in Britain. The anti-comma camp is loudest there, and those who oppose this punctuation mark argue it’s unnecessary and clutters up a sentence.” (
? ? ? Group is 'n versamelnaam. Is en are is albei reg na gelang daarvan of jy group as 'n enkel ding sien of as bestaande uit 'n klomp enkelinge. In jou teks kom die meervoud baie sterk deur. ? On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, 16:42 Lynette Posthumus via , <lynetteposthumus=[email protected]> wrote: Hallo almal ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, are brought together to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? Should this be? ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, is brought together to share its insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? I think I have been working on this thesis too long now ? ? Thanks Lynette
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As mens gewoond is aan Germaanse tale, waar sulke diskordansies nie voorkom nie, sluk mens maar swaar aan die Engelse gewoonte om na die interpretasie van versamelname te kyk ipv die grammatikale vorm. ? Sien gister bv “Argentina replace xxx with zzz in yyy team” op BBC se nuus. Dis mos nie ’n besluit van die individuele spelers nie… ? Hulle is net so laks met voornaaamwoorde: “Everyone must leave their books on their desks”. In die waan dat dit nie-seksistieser is nie, al word vroue in die VK nog steeds minder as mans vir dieselfde werk betaal. ? These humans are crazy, sou Obelix gesê het. ? ? ?
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Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2022 10:59
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed? A group were seen? Ek dink nie ’n mens kan die re?l vir “number” oordra op “group” nie. ? ? ? CAUTION: This email originated outside of the City of Cape Town’s network. Please do not click on any links or open attachments unless you know and trust the source. STOP. THINK. VERIFY. |
? Daar is ook nog Fowler se kommentaaroor die getal van die woord ‘number’: As number deur ‘a’ voorafgegaan word, is ‘number’ meervoud, en as dit deur ‘the’ voorafgegaan word, is dit enkelvoud. Dit gaan oor waar die klem val. Dieselfde sal geld vir ‘group’. Kas ? Sent from for Windows ? ? Ek moet met Kas saamstem, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van die resultaat nie. Dit herinner my aan die vraag of “Elliott [die verhuisingsfirma] is amazing” of “Elliott are amazing” korrek is. Dit was jare gelede die firma se radioslagspreuk, en daar was blykbaar kritiek daarop. Waarna die firma iets prakseer het soos “Whether you think Elliott is amazing or are amazing….” ? Mens kan sulke keuses tussen die duiwel en die diep blou see pypkan deur herformulering: ? The group, comprising people from common backgrounds and with shared experiences, meets to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs and views on a specific topic. Weglating van “brought together” is geen verlies nie; “the group meets” volg vanselfsprekend, en die komma voor “and” kan ook maar waai. Die Amerikaners is dol daaroor (hulle noem dit die Harvard-komma), maar die Britte (wat dit die Oxford-komma noem) is nie: “Strangely enough, while the comma is so named after the Oxford University Press, which requires it in its style guidelines, it’s not exactly popular in Britain. The anti-comma camp is loudest there, and those who oppose this punctuation mark argue it’s unnecessary and clutters up a sentence.” (
? ? ? Group is 'n versamelnaam. Is en are is albei reg na gelang daarvan of jy group as 'n enkel ding sien of as bestaande uit 'n klomp enkelinge. In jou teks kom die meervoud baie sterk deur. ? On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, 16:42 Lynette Posthumus via , <lynetteposthumus=[email protected]> wrote: Hallo almal ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, are brought together to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? Should this be? ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, is brought together to share its insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? I think I have been working on this thesis too long now ? ? Thanks Lynette
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Stem saam, Lynette ?– skuus, ek het nie mooi gelees nie, sien nou eers dit moes een woord gewees het ? LEKKER NAWEEK, ALMAL! ___________________________________________________________________ Leona Labuschagne, Translator???? |???? 083 302 2632??? |???? SA??? GMT +2 ? ? ?
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Sent: Thursday, 01 September 2022 11:47
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Blast!? Dankie Leona. Fees gaan goed werk want sy denotatiewe en konnotatiewe betekenis kan goed verduidelik word. ? ? Wat van “ek het my gate uit geniet”? ? ? ? ? ? ? ___________________________________________________________________ Leona Labuschagne, Translator???? |???? 083 302 2632??? |???? SA??? GMT +2 ? ? ? ? Na gelang van hoe die konteks lyk, sou ek sê: dit was ? fees! Of wat ? fees! ? Ek gebruik dit gewoonlik self so as ek wil sê iets was baie lekker. Soms, dit was uit die boeke! Of dit was nou nommers. ? ? ? ? ? 
It's not my job, it's my passion, and it shows ? ? Hallo almal ? Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met een woord? Dink julle dit is moontlik? Pret? Is dit goeie Afrikaans om te sê: Ek het pret gehad? ? Daarna moet die denotatiewe en konnotatiewe betekenis van die woord gegee word. Ek hoop ek het reg verduidelik. ? Groete Lynette
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Dankie Leona. Fees gaan goed werk want sy denotatiewe en konnotatiewe betekenis kan goed verduidelik word. ?
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Blast!? Wat van “ek het my gate uit geniet”? ? ? ? ? ? ? ___________________________________________________________________ Leona Labuschagne, Translator???? |???? 083 302 2632??? |???? SA??? GMT +2 ? ? ? ? Na gelang van hoe die konteks lyk, sou ek sê: dit was ? fees! Of wat ? fees! ? Ek gebruik dit gewoonlik self so as ek wil sê iets was baie lekker. Soms, dit was uit die boeke! Of dit was nou nommers. ? ? ? ? ? 
It's not my job, it's my passion, and it shows ? ? Hallo almal ? Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met een woord? Dink julle dit is moontlik? Pret? Is dit goeie Afrikaans om te sê: Ek het pret gehad? ? Daarna moet die denotatiewe en konnotatiewe betekenis van die woord gegee word. Ek hoop ek het reg verduidelik. ? Groete Lynette
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Wat van “ek het my gate uit geniet”? ? ? ? ? ? ? ___________________________________________________________________ Leona Labuschagne, Translator???? |???? 083 302 2632??? |???? SA??? GMT +2 ? ? ?
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Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2022 18:08
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Blast!? Na gelang van hoe die konteks lyk, sou ek sê: dit was ? fees! Of wat ? fees! ? Ek gebruik dit gewoonlik self so as ek wil sê iets was baie lekker. Soms, dit was uit die boeke! Of dit was nou nommers. ? ? ? ? ? 
It's not my job, it's my passion, and it shows ? ? Hallo almal ? Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met een woord? Dink julle dit is moontlik? Pret? Is dit goeie Afrikaans om te sê: Ek het pret gehad? ? Daarna moet die denotatiewe en konnotatiewe betekenis van die woord gegee word. Ek hoop ek het reg verduidelik. ? Groete Lynette
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Ek het pret gehad is vir my doodgewone Afrikaans.
On 31/08/2022 17:56, Lynette Posthumus via wrote:
> Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met
> een woord?
Kan jy kroek en "vetpret" gebruik?
Samuel
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Ek het pret gehad is vir my doodgewone Afrikaans.
On 31/08/2022 17:56, Lynette Posthumus via wrote:
> Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met
> een woord?
Kan jy kroek en "vetpret" gebruik?
Samuel
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On 31/08/2022 17:56, Lynette Posthumus via groups.io wrote: Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met een woord? Kan jy kroek en "vetpret" gebruik? Samuel
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Na gelang van hoe die konteks lyk, sou ek sê: dit was ? fees! Of wat ? fees! ? Ek gebruik dit gewoonlik self so as ek wil sê iets was baie lekker. Soms, dit was uit die boeke! Of dit was nou nommers. ? ? ? ? ? 
It's not my job, it's my passion, and it shows ?
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Sent: Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:56
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Subject: [ZaLang] Blast!? Hallo almal ? Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met een woord? Dink julle dit is moontlik? Pret? Is dit goeie Afrikaans om te sê: Ek het pret gehad? ? Daarna moet die denotatiewe en konnotatiewe betekenis van die woord gegee word. Ek hoop ek het reg verduidelik. ? Groete Lynette
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Hallo almal ? Hoe vertaal ek die sleng woord “blast” in die sin: I had a blast; met een woord? Dink julle dit is moontlik? Pret? Is dit goeie Afrikaans om te sê: Ek het pret gehad? ? Daarna moet die denotatiewe en konnotatiewe betekenis van die woord gegee word. Ek hoop ek het reg verduidelik. ? Groete Lynette
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Nee, ek weet die Oxford komma het sy plek ?. Ek klap kort-kort ‘n sin oor na die bedrywende kant toe, want dit raak langdradig en uitputtend .. ? Groete Lynette ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chavoux Luyt
Sent: 31 August 2022 12:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed? Akademia is lief vir die Oxford (of Harvard ;-) ) komma, omdat dit dubbelsinnigheid wegneem (soms). Waar klaarheid en duidelikheid belangrik is en terselfdertyd bondigheid, kan dit baie help.
Jammer, ons is nou van die punt af, maar ek het nie te lank terug nie my eie tesis moes opskryf en het maar gesukkel met die akademiese Engelse taal (veral die voorkeur vir die lydende vorm).
Groete
Chavoux?
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A group of people were seen.... Mena sal seker ook nie sê ‘a number are’ nie. Die getal lê in wat volg. ? Sent from for Windows ?
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From: Elise Engelbrecht via groups.ioSent: Wednesday, 31 August 2022 10:59 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [ZaLang] English grammar help needed ? A group were seen? Ek dink nie ’n mens kan die re?l vir “number” oordra op “group” nie. ? ? ? CAUTION: This email originated outside of the City of Cape Town’s network. Please do not click on any links or open attachments unless you know and trust the source. STOP. THINK. VERIFY. |
? Daar is ook nog Fowler se kommentaaroor die getal van die woord ‘number’: As number deur ‘a’ voorafgegaan word, is ‘number’ meervoud, en as dit deur ‘the’ voorafgegaan word, is dit enkelvoud. Dit gaan oor waar die klem val. Dieselfde sal geld vir ‘group’. Kas ? Sent from for Windows ? ? Ek moet met Kas saamstem, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van die resultaat nie. Dit herinner my aan die vraag of “Elliott [die verhuisingsfirma] is amazing” of “Elliott are amazing” korrek is. Dit was jare gelede die firma se radioslagspreuk, en daar was blykbaar kritiek daarop. Waarna die firma iets prakseer het soos “Whether you think Elliott is amazing or are amazing….” ? Mens kan sulke keuses tussen die duiwel en die diep blou see pypkan deur herformulering: ? The group, comprising people from common backgrounds and with shared experiences, meets to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs and views on a specific topic. Weglating van “brought together” is geen verlies nie; “the group meets” volg vanselfsprekend, en die komma voor “and” kan ook maar waai. Die Amerikaners is dol daaroor (hulle noem dit die Harvard-komma), maar die Britte (wat dit die Oxford-komma noem) is nie: “Strangely enough, while the comma is so named after the Oxford University Press, which requires it in its style guidelines, it’s not exactly popular in Britain. The anti-comma camp is loudest there, and those who oppose this punctuation mark argue it’s unnecessary and clutters up a sentence.” (
? ? ? Group is 'n versamelnaam. Is en are is albei reg na gelang daarvan of jy group as 'n enkel ding sien of as bestaande uit 'n klomp enkelinge. In jou teks kom die meervoud baie sterk deur. ? On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, 16:42 Lynette Posthumus via , <lynetteposthumus=[email protected]> wrote: Hallo almal ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, are brought together to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? Should this be? ? The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, is brought together to share its insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic. ? I think I have been working on this thesis too long now ? ? Thanks Lynette
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Re: English grammar help needed
Akademia is lief vir die Oxford (of Harvard ;-) ) komma, omdat dit dubbelsinnigheid wegneem (soms). Waar klaarheid en duidelikheid belangrik is en terselfdertyd bondigheid, kan dit baie help.
Jammer, ons is nou van die punt af, maar ek het nie te lank terug nie my eie tesis moes opskryf en het maar gesukkel met die akademiese Engelse taal (veral die voorkeur vir die lydende vorm).
Groete
Chavoux?
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A group were seen? Ek dink nie ’n mens kan die re?l vir “number” oordra op “group” nie.
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Daar is ook nog Fowler se kommentaaroor die getal van die woord ‘number’: As
number deur ‘a’ voorafgegaan word, is ‘number’ meervoud, en as dit deur ‘the’ voorafgegaan
word, is dit enkelvoud. Dit gaan oor waar die klem val. Dieselfde sal geld vir ‘group’.
Kas
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Sent from for Windows
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Ek moet met Kas saamstem, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van die resultaat nie.
Dit herinner my aan die vraag of “Elliott [die verhuisingsfirma] is amazing” of “Elliott are amazing” korrek is. Dit was jare gelede die firma se radioslagspreuk, en daar was blykbaar kritiek
daarop. Waarna die firma iets prakseer het soos “Whether you think Elliott is amazing or are amazing….”
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Mens kan sulke keuses tussen die duiwel en die diep blou see pypkan deur herformulering:
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The group, comprising people from common backgrounds and with shared experiences, meets to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs and views on a specific
topic.
Weglating van “brought together” is geen verlies nie; “the group meets” volg vanselfsprekend, en die komma voor “and” kan ook maar waai. Die Amerikaners is dol daaroor (hulle noem dit die
Harvard-komma), maar die Britte (wat dit die Oxford-komma noem) is nie:
“Strangely enough, while the comma is so named after the Oxford University Press, which requires
it in its style guidelines, it’s not exactly popular in Britain. The anti-comma camp is loudest there, and those who oppose this punctuation mark argue it’s unnecessary and clutters up a sentence.” (
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Group is 'n versamelnaam. Is en are is albei reg na gelang daarvan of jy group as 'n enkel ding sien of as bestaande uit 'n klomp enkelinge. In jou teks kom die meervoud baie sterk deur.
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2022, 16:42 Lynette Posthumus via , <lynetteposthumus=[email protected]> wrote:
Hallo almal
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The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences, are brought together to share their insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic.
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Should this be?
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The group, people from common backgrounds with shared experiences,
is brought together to share
its insights, attitudes, beliefs, and views on a specific topic.
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I think I have been working on this thesis too long now
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Thanks
Lynette
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