Hallo Almal ’n Kli?nt skryf vir my Daar is alweer ‘n weddenskap in die PE kantoor!? Ons het ‘n taalkundige met baie ervaring nodig om te help….daarom klop ons aan jou deur! Hoe sal jy die volgende woorde gebruik? - Virseker
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Ek sou nie maatskaplike koppel nie (dis ? byvoeglike naamwoord) maar wel etiek + komitee (albei s.nw.). Dus = maatskaplike en etiekkomitee. ? ? ? ? ? 
It's not my job, it's my passion, and it shows ?
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Subject: [ZaLang] Social and ethics committee? ? Kollegas, hoe sou julle social and ethics committee vertaal? Dis net een komitee, dus sou ek reken maatskaplike-en-etiekkomitee. Wat dink julle?
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Social and ethics committee
Kollegas, hoe sou julle social and ethics committee vertaal? Dis net een komitee, dus sou ek reken maatskaplike-en-etiekkomitee. Wat dink julle?
Groete, Elna
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Hallo Hester, ? Ek het net die antwoord op haar vraag gekry. ? Maar terwyl ek op die lyn is, weet iemand waarmee night auditor vertaal word? Dis iemand wat tussen 23:00 en 7:00 by groot hotelle se ontvangs werk. ? Groete ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Hester van der Walt
Sent: 23 March 2022 02:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Hoofletters of kleinletters?? Hallo Lynette Ek kan jou sien. Kry jy die groepboodskappe, bv Anita se navraag van vanoggend? Groete ? ? Is ek nog op hierdie groep? Dankie Lynette ? ? Hallo Anita Ek verskaf uittreksels uit ons GCIS stylgids wat mooi eenvoudig is:
Wat G/government betref sou jy met veiligheid kleinletter kon gebruik. Ky kook my opm by jou vrae. Sterkte! ? ? Hallo almal ? Ek proeflees op die oomblik ‘n Engelse dokument wat deur baie verskillende redigeerders geredigeer is. En ook deur verskillende komitees opgestel en geskryf is. Ek het hier heel aan die einde ingekom, en nou is daar heelwat dinge wat nie konsekwent is nie en wat ek nou min of meer konsekwent probeer maak. Maar dis moeilik as daar slegs twee dae oor is om al die inkonsekwenthede op te tel! ? Ek draai nou vas met die volgende: ? President Salva Kiir – hier is dit altyd ‘n hoofletter want dit is sy title KORREK Maar wat van: The President of the Republic of South Sudan (sonder sy naam), want ek kry ook: The president of the Republic of South Sudan KLEINLETTER En dan ook: The President of the Republic of South Sudan, General Salva Kiir, announced …? ? Ek voel dat President in die middel van ‘n sin slegs ‘n hoofletter moet kry as dit gevolg word deur die naam van die persoon. Maar is ek besig om heeltemal deurmekaar te raak? ? En dieselfde gebeur met Government x government. Hulle gebruik Government of South Africa en Government of Japan met hoofletters in ‘n sin, bv. It was made possible by the Government of Japan. Hier voel ek dit moet nie met ‘n hoofletter gespel word nie. ? Enige hulp word opreg waardeer! Groete Anita Attachments:
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Hallo Lynette Hierdie e-pos van jou het na die groep toe deurgekom. Maar ek het al voorheen van jou ZaLang e-posse in my junk mail gekry – het ek gesien as ek dit gaan skoonmaak het. ?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Hoofletters of kleinletters?? Is ek nog op hierdie groep? Dankie Lynette ? ? Hallo Anita Ek verskaf uittreksels uit ons GCIS stylgids wat mooi eenvoudig is: 
Wat G/government betref sou jy met veiligheid kleinletter kon gebruik. Ky kook my opm by jou vrae. Sterkte! ? ? Hallo almal ? Ek proeflees op die oomblik ‘n Engelse dokument wat deur baie verskillende redigeerders geredigeer is. En ook deur verskillende komitees opgestel en geskryf is. Ek het hier heel aan die einde ingekom, en nou is daar heelwat dinge wat nie konsekwent is nie en wat ek nou min of meer konsekwent probeer maak. Maar dis moeilik as daar slegs twee dae oor is om al die inkonsekwenthede op te tel! ? Ek draai nou vas met die volgende: ? President Salva Kiir – hier is dit altyd ‘n hoofletter want dit is sy title KORREK Maar wat van: The President of the Republic of South Sudan (sonder sy naam), want ek kry ook: The president of the Republic of South Sudan KLEINLETTER En dan ook: The President of the Republic of South Sudan, General Salva Kiir, announced …? ? Ek voel dat President in die middel van ‘n sin slegs ‘n hoofletter moet kry as dit gevolg word deur die naam van die persoon. Maar is ek besig om heeltemal deurmekaar te raak? ? En dieselfde gebeur met Government x government. Hulle gebruik Government of South Africa en Government of Japan met hoofletters in ‘n sin, bv. It was made possible by the Government of Japan. Hier voel ek dit moet nie met ‘n hoofletter gespel word nie. ? Enige hulp word opreg waardeer! Groete Anita
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Hallo Lynette Ek kan jou sien. Kry jy die groepboodskappe, bv Anita se navraag van vanoggend? Groete ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lynette Posthumus
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 2:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Hoofletters of kleinletters?? Is ek nog op hierdie groep? Dankie Lynette ? ? Hallo Anita Ek verskaf uittreksels uit ons GCIS stylgids wat mooi eenvoudig is: 
Wat G/government betref sou jy met veiligheid kleinletter kon gebruik. Ky kook my opm by jou vrae. Sterkte! ? ? Hallo almal ? Ek proeflees op die oomblik ‘n Engelse dokument wat deur baie verskillende redigeerders geredigeer is. En ook deur verskillende komitees opgestel en geskryf is. Ek het hier heel aan die einde ingekom, en nou is daar heelwat dinge wat nie konsekwent is nie en wat ek nou min of meer konsekwent probeer maak. Maar dis moeilik as daar slegs twee dae oor is om al die inkonsekwenthede op te tel! ? Ek draai nou vas met die volgende: ? President Salva Kiir – hier is dit altyd ‘n hoofletter want dit is sy title KORREK Maar wat van: The President of the Republic of South Sudan (sonder sy naam), want ek kry ook: The president of the Republic of South Sudan KLEINLETTER En dan ook: The President of the Republic of South Sudan, General Salva Kiir, announced …? ? Ek voel dat President in die middel van ‘n sin slegs ‘n hoofletter moet kry as dit gevolg word deur die naam van die persoon. Maar is ek besig om heeltemal deurmekaar te raak? ? En dieselfde gebeur met Government x government. Hulle gebruik Government of South Africa en Government of Japan met hoofletters in ‘n sin, bv. It was made possible by the Government of Japan. Hier voel ek dit moet nie met ‘n hoofletter gespel word nie. ? Enige hulp word opreg waardeer! Groete Anita
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Is ek nog op hierdie groep? Dankie Lynette ?
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Sent: 23 March 2022 01:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Hoofletters of kleinletters?? Hallo Anita Ek verskaf uittreksels uit ons GCIS stylgids wat mooi eenvoudig is: 
Wat G/government betref sou jy met veiligheid kleinletter kon gebruik. Ky kook my opm by jou vrae. Sterkte! ? ? Hallo almal ? Ek proeflees op die oomblik ‘n Engelse dokument wat deur baie verskillende redigeerders geredigeer is. En ook deur verskillende komitees opgestel en geskryf is. Ek het hier heel aan die einde ingekom, en nou is daar heelwat dinge wat nie konsekwent is nie en wat ek nou min of meer konsekwent probeer maak. Maar dis moeilik as daar slegs twee dae oor is om al die inkonsekwenthede op te tel! ? Ek draai nou vas met die volgende: ? President Salva Kiir – hier is dit altyd ‘n hoofletter want dit is sy title KORREK Maar wat van: The President of the Republic of South Sudan (sonder sy naam), want ek kry ook: The president of the Republic of South Sudan KLEINLETTER En dan ook: The President of the Republic of South Sudan, General Salva Kiir, announced …? ? Ek voel dat President in die middel van ‘n sin slegs ‘n hoofletter moet kry as dit gevolg word deur die naam van die persoon. Maar is ek besig om heeltemal deurmekaar te raak? ? En dieselfde gebeur met Government x government. Hulle gebruik Government of South Africa en Government of Japan met hoofletters in ‘n sin, bv. It was made possible by the Government of Japan. Hier voel ek dit moet nie met ‘n hoofletter gespel word nie. ? Enige hulp word opreg waardeer! Groete Anita
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Hallo Anita Ek verskaf uittreksels uit ons GCIS stylgids wat mooi eenvoudig is: 
Wat G/government betref sou jy met veiligheid kleinletter kon gebruik. Ky kook my opm by jou vrae. Sterkte! ?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 11:50 AM
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Subject: [ZaLang] Hoofletters of kleinletters?? Hallo almal ? Ek proeflees op die oomblik ‘n Engelse dokument wat deur baie verskillende redigeerders geredigeer is. En ook deur verskillende komitees opgestel en geskryf is. Ek het hier heel aan die einde ingekom, en nou is daar heelwat dinge wat nie konsekwent is nie en wat ek nou min of meer konsekwent probeer maak. Maar dis moeilik as daar slegs twee dae oor is om al die inkonsekwenthede op te tel! ? Ek draai nou vas met die volgende: ? President Salva Kiir – hier is dit altyd ‘n hoofletter want dit is sy title KORREK Maar wat van: The President of the Republic of South Sudan (sonder sy naam), want ek kry ook: The president of the Republic of South Sudan KLEINLETTER En dan ook: The President of the Republic of South Sudan, General Salva Kiir, announced …? ? Ek voel dat President in die middel van ‘n sin slegs ‘n hoofletter moet kry as dit gevolg word deur die naam van die persoon. Maar is ek besig om heeltemal deurmekaar te raak? ? En dieselfde gebeur met Government x government. Hulle gebruik Government of South Africa en Government of Japan met hoofletters in ‘n sin, bv. It was made possible by the Government of Japan. Hier voel ek dit moet nie met ‘n hoofletter gespel word nie. ? Enige hulp word opreg waardeer! Groete Anita
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Hallo almal ? Ek proeflees op die oomblik ‘n Engelse dokument wat deur baie verskillende redigeerders geredigeer is. En ook deur verskillende komitees opgestel en geskryf is. Ek het hier heel aan die einde ingekom, en nou is daar heelwat dinge wat nie konsekwent is nie en wat ek nou min of meer konsekwent probeer maak. Maar dis moeilik as daar slegs twee dae oor is om al die inkonsekwenthede op te tel! ? Ek draai nou vas met die volgende: ? President Salva Kiir – hier is dit altyd ‘n hoofletter want dit is sy titel Maar wat van: The President of the Republic of South Sudan (sonder sy naam), want ek kry ook: The president of the Republic of South Sudan En dan ook: The President of the Republic of South Sudan, General Salva Kiir, announced …? ? Ek voel dat President in die middel van ‘n sin slegs ‘n hoofletter moet kry as dit gevolg word deur die naam van die persoon. Maar is ek besig om heeltemal deurmekaar te raak? ? En dieselfde gebeur met Government x government. Hulle gebruik Government of South Africa en Government of Japan met hoofletters in ‘n sin, bv. It was made possible by the Government of Japan. Hier voel ek dit moet nie met ‘n hoofletter gespel word nie. ? Enige hulp word opreg waardeer! Groete Anita
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Ek het nie ‘n antwoord nie, maar dit lyk nie vir my of ek meer op die lys is nie. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Moen
Sent: 18 March 2022 07:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ZaLang] The Hon.? Ek ken net die vorm “the Hon(ourable)” wanneer daar na die persoon verwys word, soos in jou voorbeeld. Die tweede sin lyk vir my verkeerd (of minstens ongebruiklik. ? ? Hallo almal Ek proeflees ‘n dokument in Engels waarin die aanspreekvorm, The Honourable en die afkorting, The Hon. gebruik word vir sekere persone. Maar nou kry ek dat daar soms gepraat word van the Hon. en soms net van Hon., bv. ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, the Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? En dan later: ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? Weet iemand dalk of daar ‘n re?l is oor die gebruik van die lidwoord voor Hon.? ? Groete en baie dankie by voorbaat Anita ?
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En nou het ons ook sekerheid ?. Dankie!
On Sat, 19 Mar 2022, 11:38 Anita Van Zyl, < anitavz@...> wrote: Dankie, Hester, ek het ook Fowler se riglyn gelees, maar het nog steeds getwyfel omdat die dokument waaraan ek werk so inkonsekwent is dat ‘n mens later aan alles begin twyfel! Baie dankie! ? Groete Anita ? ? Alida Fowler gee die volgende riglyn, waarvolgens The hoofletter is: Hon. is an abbreviation of (1) honourable, especially in parliamentary contexts (The Hon. Member for Lincoln) and as a courtesy title given to sons and daughters of members of the nobility and to civic dignitaries such as the Lord Mayor of London (the correct form is with the first name in full, e.g. The Hon. James Brown), and (2) honorary, as in The Hon. Secretary. Taalgroete Hester ? ? Baie dankie, Tony, dit bevestig wat ek ook gedink het! ? Groete ? ? Ek ken net die vorm “the Hon(ourable)” wanneer daar na die persoon verwys word, soos in jou voorbeeld. Die tweede sin lyk vir my verkeerd (of minstens ongebruiklik. ? ? Hallo almal Ek proeflees ‘n dokument in Engels waarin die aanspreekvorm, The Honourable en die afkorting, The Hon. gebruik word vir sekere persone. Maar nou kry ek dat daar soms gepraat word van the Hon. en soms net van Hon., bv. ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, the Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? En dan later: ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? Weet iemand dalk of daar ‘n re?l is oor die gebruik van die lidwoord voor Hon.? ? Groete en baie dankie by voorbaat Anita ?
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Dankie, Hester, ek het ook Fowler se riglyn gelees, maar het nog steeds getwyfel omdat die dokument waaraan ek werk so inkonsekwent is dat ‘n mens later aan alles begin twyfel! Baie dankie! ? Groete Anita ?
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] The Hon.? Alida Fowler gee die volgende riglyn, waarvolgens The hoofletter is: Hon. is an abbreviation of (1) honourable, especially in parliamentary contexts (The Hon. Member for Lincoln) and as a courtesy title given to sons and daughters of members of the nobility and to civic dignitaries such as the Lord Mayor of London (the correct form is with the first name in full, e.g. The Hon. James Brown), and (2) honorary, as in The Hon. Secretary. Taalgroete Hester ? ? Baie dankie, Tony, dit bevestig wat ek ook gedink het! ? Groete ? ? Ek ken net die vorm “the Hon(ourable)” wanneer daar na die persoon verwys word, soos in jou voorbeeld. Die tweede sin lyk vir my verkeerd (of minstens ongebruiklik. ? ? Hallo almal Ek proeflees ‘n dokument in Engels waarin die aanspreekvorm, The Honourable en die afkorting, The Hon. gebruik word vir sekere persone. Maar nou kry ek dat daar soms gepraat word van the Hon. en soms net van Hon., bv. ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, the Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? En dan later: ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? Weet iemand dalk of daar ‘n re?l is oor die gebruik van die lidwoord voor Hon.? ? Groete en baie dankie by voorbaat Anita ?
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Alida Fowler gee die volgende riglyn, waarvolgens The hoofletter is: Hon. is an abbreviation of (1) honourable, especially in parliamentary contexts (The Hon. Member for Lincoln) and as a courtesy title given to sons and daughters of members of the nobility and to civic dignitaries such as the Lord Mayor of London (the correct form is with the first name in full, e.g. The Hon. James Brown), and (2) honorary, as in The Hon. Secretary. Taalgroete Hester ?
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 9:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] The Hon.? Baie dankie, Tony, dit bevestig wat ek ook gedink het! ? Groete ? ? Ek ken net die vorm “the Hon(ourable)” wanneer daar na die persoon verwys word, soos in jou voorbeeld. Die tweede sin lyk vir my verkeerd (of minstens ongebruiklik. ? ? Hallo almal Ek proeflees ‘n dokument in Engels waarin die aanspreekvorm, The Honourable en die afkorting, The Hon. gebruik word vir sekere persone. Maar nou kry ek dat daar soms gepraat word van the Hon. en soms net van Hon., bv. ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, the Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? En dan later: ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? Weet iemand dalk of daar ‘n re?l is oor die gebruik van die lidwoord voor Hon.? ? Groete en baie dankie by voorbaat Anita ?
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Baie dankie, Tony, dit bevestig wat ek ook gedink het! ? Groete ?
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Sent: Friday, March 18, 2022 7:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] The Hon.? Ek ken net die vorm “the Hon(ourable)” wanneer daar na die persoon verwys word, soos in jou voorbeeld. Die tweede sin lyk vir my verkeerd (of minstens ongebruiklik. ? ? Hallo almal Ek proeflees ‘n dokument in Engels waarin die aanspreekvorm, The Honourable en die afkorting, The Hon. gebruik word vir sekere persone. Maar nou kry ek dat daar soms gepraat word van the Hon. en soms net van Hon., bv. ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, the Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? En dan later: ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? Weet iemand dalk of daar ‘n re?l is oor die gebruik van die lidwoord voor Hon.? ? Groete en baie dankie by voorbaat Anita ?
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Ek ken net die vorm “the Hon(ourable)” wanneer daar na die persoon verwys word, soos in jou voorbeeld. Die tweede sin lyk vir my verkeerd (of minstens ongebruiklik. ?
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Sent: Friday, 18 March 2022 18:57
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Subject: [ZaLang] The Hon.? Hallo almal Ek proeflees ‘n dokument in Engels waarin die aanspreekvorm, The Honourable en die afkorting, The Hon. gebruik word vir sekere persone. Maar nou kry ek dat daar soms gepraat word van the Hon. en soms net van Hon., bv. ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, the Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? En dan later: ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? Weet iemand dalk of daar ‘n re?l is oor die gebruik van die lidwoord voor Hon.? ? Groete en baie dankie by voorbaat Anita ?
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Hallo almal Ek proeflees ‘n dokument in Engels waarin die aanspreekvorm, The Honourable en die afkorting, The Hon. gebruik word vir sekere persone. Maar nou kry ek dat daar soms gepraat word van the Hon. en soms net van Hon., bv. ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, the Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? En dan later: ? His Excellency the Governor of Jonglei State, Hon. Philip Aguer Panyang, welcomed the National Dialogue Subcommittee of Jonglei State … ? Weet iemand dalk of daar ‘n re?l is oor die gebruik van die lidwoord voor Hon.? ? Groete en baie dankie by voorbaat Anita ?
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And so say all of us, liewe Tony! ? ___________________________________________________________________ Leona Labuschagne, Translator???? |???? 083 302 2632??? |???? SA??? GMT +2 ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of Isabel Claassen
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2022 11:32
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Early literacy project? Thanks Tony – excellent explanation. I’m definitely saving this one for future use!? ? ___________________________ Isabel Claassen Language Consultant/Taalkonsultant 0827017922 ?The difference between something good and something great is attention to detail Kindly reply to isabelclaassen@... as well as isabel@... ? ? Anita, ek stem saam met die spelling as een woord. ? Aangesien jy dit vir iemand moet verduidelik, sou ek sit só stel: ? Early childhood education is a three-word composite. ? My standard example of this sort of composite is the term “reinforced concrete engineer”. In English, the interpretation of this term is left to the reader, who would normally realise that the first word (an adjective) refers to concrete and not to engineer, and that the second word (a noun) qualifies the third word (also a noun). In Afrikaans, however, it’s dealt with differently: - The two nouns must be written together. This rule is cast in concrete (pun intended), i.e. “betoningenieur”.
- As “reinforced concrete” translates as “gewapende beton”, we would now get “gewapende betoningenieur”, which means an armed engineer specialising in constructions made with concrete. A distinctly potentially dangerous individual.
- To indicate that the adjective (first word) qualifies/refers to the combination of the 2nd and 3rd words, the whole thing is written as one word.
? Similar cases: High voltage wire = hoogspanningsdraad (or ho?spanningsdraad) carries a high voltage; a ho? spanningsdraad would be a high wire up there somewhere) Low water mark (= ebb) = laagwatermerk (a lae watermerk would be a mark down somewhere) Deep water drilling – diepseeboorwerk (diep seeboorwerk would be drilling deep holes in the sea, instead of drilling a hole in very deep water). ? So vroe? geletterdheidsprojek would mean an early project concerning literacy, and vroe?geletterdheidsprojek means a project concerning early literacy. ? ? ? Hallo almal Iemand vra my om Early literacy project te vertaal, en ek vertaal dit toe as Vroe?geletterdheidsprojek. Want early literacy is ‘n spesifieke konsep met ‘n spesifieke betekenis en beteken nie net vroeg nie. Maar nou moet ek ‘n verduideliking gee daarvoor. Kan iemand dalk bevestig dat di teen woord is, dan kan ek sê dat ek ander taalkenners geraadpleeg het, want dit is nie ‘n Afrikaanssprekende persoon nie, so sy moet woord vat daarvoor. Hulle skryf dit glo al die afgelope vyf jaar as Vroe? geletterdheidsprogram, wat ek ook op die internet kry. ? Groete en baie dankie Anita
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Re: Early literacy project
My plesier. As oudonderwyser kom verduidelik so half outomaties… ? Elsabe se verwysing na die AWS is natuurlik 100% korrek. Vir ons wat in die bedryf werk en gesag of redding soek, is dit presies wat benodig word. Maar vir kli?nte, wat miskien nie eens weet wat AWS beteken nie, help dit nie juis veel nie. Veral nie as hulle nie Afrikaansspekendes is nie. Dan moet mens aanknoop by by hulle verwysingsraamwerk (en as hulle hierdie soort vraag stel, weet hulle waarskynlik wel van sout of water, maar nie van albei nie. ?? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Anita Van Zyl
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2022 12:25
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Early literacy project? O, baie dankie, Tony! Dit help so baie. Ek gaan dit ook uitdruk vir ingeval iemand my weer vra vir ‘n verduidelking! ? ? Anita, ek stem saam met die spelling as een woord. ? Aangesien jy dit vir iemand moet verduidelik, sou ek sit só stel: ? Early childhood education is a three-word composite. ? My standard example of this sort of composite is the term “reinforced concrete engineer”. In English, the interpretation of this term is left to the reader, who would normally realise that the first word (an adjective) refers to concrete and not to engineer, and that the second word (a noun) qualifies the third word (also a noun). In Afrikaans, however, it’s dealt with differently: - The two nouns must be written together. This rule is cast in concrete (pun intended), i.e. “betoningenieur”.
- As “reinforced concrete” translates as “gewapende beton”, we would now get “gewapende betoningenieur”, which means an armed engineer specialising in constructions made with concrete. A distinctly potentially dangerous individual.
- To indicate that the adjective (first word) qualifies/refers to the combination of the 2nd and 3rd words, the whole thing is written as one word.
? Similar cases: High voltage wire = hoogspanningsdraad (or ho?spanningsdraad) carries a high voltage; a ho? spanningsdraad would be a high wire up there somewhere) Low water mark (= ebb) = laagwatermerk (a lae watermerk would be a mark down somewhere) Deep water drilling – diepseeboorwerk (diep seeboorwerk would be drilling deep holes in the sea, instead of drilling a hole in very deep water). ? So vroe? geletterdheidsprojek would mean an early project concerning literacy, and vroe?geletterdheidsprojek means a project concerning early literacy. ? ? ? Hallo almal Iemand vra my om Early literacy project te vertaal, en ek vertaal dit toe as Vroe?geletterdheidsprojek. Want early literacy is ‘n spesifieke konsep met ‘n spesifieke betekenis en beteken nie net vroeg nie. Maar nou moet ek ‘n verduideliking gee daarvoor. Kan iemand dalk bevestig dat di teen woord is, dan kan ek sê dat ek ander taalkenners geraadpleeg het, want dit is nie ‘n Afrikaanssprekende persoon nie, so sy moet woord vat daarvoor. Hulle skryf dit glo al die afgelope vyf jaar as Vroe? geletterdheidsprogram, wat ek ook op die internet kry. ? Groete en baie dankie Anita
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Re: Early literacy project
O, baie dankie, Tony! Dit help so baie. Ek gaan dit ook uitdruk vir ingeval iemand my weer vra vir ‘n verduidelking! ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tony Moen
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Early literacy project? Anita, ek stem saam met die spelling as een woord. ? Aangesien jy dit vir iemand moet verduidelik, sou ek sit só stel: ? Early childhood education is a three-word composite. ? My standard example of this sort of composite is the term “reinforced concrete engineer”. In English, the interpretation of this term is left to the reader, who would normally realise that the first word (an adjective) refers to concrete and not to engineer, and that the second word (a noun) qualifies the third word (also a noun). In Afrikaans, however, it’s dealt with differently: 1)????? The two nouns must be written together. This rule is cast in concrete (pun intended), i.e. “betoningenieur”. 2)????? As “reinforced concrete” translates as “gewapende beton”, we would now get “gewapende betoningenieur”, which means an armed engineer specialising in constructions made with concrete. A distinctly potentially dangerous individual. 3)????? To indicate that the adjective (first word) qualifies/refers to the combination of the 2nd and 3rd words, the whole thing is written as one word. ? Similar cases: High voltage wire = hoogspanningsdraad (or ho?spanningsdraad) carries a high voltage; a ho? spanningsdraad would be a high wire up there somewhere) Low water mark (= ebb) = laagwatermerk (a lae watermerk would be a mark down somewhere) Deep water drilling – diepseeboorwerk (diep seeboorwerk would be drilling deep holes in the sea, instead of drilling a hole in very deep water). ? So vroe? geletterdheidsprojek would mean an early project concerning literacy, and vroe?geletterdheidsprojek means a project concerning early literacy. ? ? ? Hallo almal Iemand vra my om Early literacy project te vertaal, en ek vertaal dit toe as Vroe?geletterdheidsprojek. Want early literacy is ‘n spesifieke konsep met ‘n spesifieke betekenis en beteken nie net vroeg nie. Maar nou moet ek ‘n verduideliking gee daarvoor. Kan iemand dalk bevestig dat di teen woord is, dan kan ek sê dat ek ander taalkenners geraadpleeg het, want dit is nie ‘n Afrikaanssprekende persoon nie, so sy moet woord vat daarvoor. Hulle skryf dit glo al die afgelope vyf jaar as Vroe? geletterdheidsprogram, wat ek ook op die internet kry. ? Groete en baie dankie Anita
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Re: Early literacy project
Thanks Tony – excellent explanation. I’m definitely saving this one for future use!? ? ___________________________ Isabel Claassen Language Consultant/Taalkonsultant 0827017922 ?The difference between something good and something great is attention to detail Kindly reply to isabelclaassen@... as well as isabel@... ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Tony Moen
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2022 11:13
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Subject: Re: [ZaLang] Early literacy project? Anita, ek stem saam met die spelling as een woord. ? Aangesien jy dit vir iemand moet verduidelik, sou ek sit só stel: ? Early childhood education is a three-word composite. ? My standard example of this sort of composite is the term “reinforced concrete engineer”. In English, the interpretation of this term is left to the reader, who would normally realise that the first word (an adjective) refers to concrete and not to engineer, and that the second word (a noun) qualifies the third word (also a noun). In Afrikaans, however, it’s dealt with differently: - The two nouns must be written together. This rule is cast in concrete (pun intended), i.e. “betoningenieur”.
- As “reinforced concrete” translates as “gewapende beton”, we would now get “gewapende betoningenieur”, which means an armed engineer specialising in constructions made with concrete. A distinctly potentially dangerous individual.
- To indicate that the adjective (first word) qualifies/refers to the combination of the 2nd and 3rd words, the whole thing is written as one word.
? Similar cases: High voltage wire = hoogspanningsdraad (or ho?spanningsdraad) carries a high voltage; a ho? spanningsdraad would be a high wire up there somewhere) Low water mark (= ebb) = laagwatermerk (a lae watermerk would be a mark down somewhere) Deep water drilling – diepseeboorwerk (diep seeboorwerk would be drilling deep holes in the sea, instead of drilling a hole in very deep water). ? So vroe? geletterdheidsprojek would mean an early project concerning literacy, and vroe?geletterdheidsprojek means a project concerning early literacy. ? ? ? Hallo almal Iemand vra my om Early literacy project te vertaal, en ek vertaal dit toe as Vroe?geletterdheidsprojek. Want early literacy is ‘n spesifieke konsep met ‘n spesifieke betekenis en beteken nie net vroeg nie. Maar nou moet ek ‘n verduideliking gee daarvoor. Kan iemand dalk bevestig dat di teen woord is, dan kan ek sê dat ek ander taalkenners geraadpleeg het, want dit is nie ‘n Afrikaanssprekende persoon nie, so sy moet woord vat daarvoor. Hulle skryf dit glo al die afgelope vyf jaar as Vroe? geletterdheidsprogram, wat ek ook op die internet kry. ? Groete en baie dankie Anita
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