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I have been trying to find out why a major lake in my area does not appear on the maps in YAAC.? Finally found it by zooming in to 0.5 km scale and discovered it is an 'amenity' because it is associated with the power plant.? On OSMs website it appears as a lake and at the reasonable scales..not apparently tagged to the power plant that I can tell.
? ?How can I change the scale at which the lake appears (ie higher scales) without having every amenity in the area appear as well?
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Mark Lindsey
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What lake is it?
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Eric WG3K
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-------- Original Message -------- On 7/29/24 14:49, Mark wrote: I have been trying to find out why a major lake in my area does not appear on the maps in YAAC.? Finally found it by zooming in to 0.5 km scale and discovered it is an 'amenity' because it is associated with the power plant.? On OSMs website it appears as a lake and at the reasonable scales..not apparently tagged to the power plant that I can tell.
? ?How can I change the scale at which the lake appears (ie higher scales) without having every amenity in the area appear as well?
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
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Yes, please, what lake is it and where is it? There are enough issues in YAAC map rendering between data decoding and OSM database vandalism that I need a bit more information to help you
Andrew, KA2DDO
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What lake is it?
73,
Eric WG3K
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On 7/29/24 14:49, Mark wrote:
I have been trying to find out why a major lake in my area does not appear on the maps in YAAC.? Finally found it by zooming in to 0.5 km scale and discovered it is an 'amenity' because it is associated with the power plant.? On OSMs website it appears
as a lake and at the reasonable scales..not apparently tagged to the power plant that I can tell.
? ?How can I change the scale at which the lake appears (ie higher scales) without having every amenity in the area appear as well?
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
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Lake Anna Virginia.? ?38 03.N? 77 48.W
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Mark Lindsey
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I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
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Eric WG3K
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On Tuesday, July 30th, 2024 at 17:28, Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...> wrote: Lake Anna Virginia.? ?38 03.N? 77 48.W
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Mark Lindsey
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There are lots of errors and missing data in Bulloch County, GA
What's the best way to submit corrections, please?
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On 7/30/24 18:28, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote: I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
73,
Eric WG3K
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Ah, so it was data error (hopefully not vandalism) in the OSM database that caused the problem. I probably won't be able to pick up the change for another week, as it takes a few days for the database export and post of the snapshot file to happen; since they released the latest weekly snapshot 4 days ago, the earliest I would be able to see the change would be next week, and then I have to run it through the YAAC import process and post it to my web server. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of Eric H. Christensen via groups.io <wg3k@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 6:28 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Map edits for OSM I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue. 73, Eric WG3K FM18rp Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM E-Mail: wg3k@... On Tuesday, July 30th, 2024 at 17:28, Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...> wrote: Lake Anna Virginia. 38 03.N 77 48.W
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Mark Lindsey
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Get an account on the openstreetmap.org website, then use the web-based map editors (I usually use iD) to correct existing entries or draw new ones. For example, I went around my neighborhood and plotted the location of every fire hydrant, and then used iD to add new Nodes for each fire hydrant at the appropriate coordinates with the attribute emergency=fire_hydrant. However, if you do make changes, please make sure they are accurate, precise, and correct. You've already seen the problems caused by erroneous input data. Better not to enter anything than to enter something wrong. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] < [email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 8:20 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Map edits for OSM There are lots of errors and missing data in Bulloch County, GA What's the best way to submit corrections, please? On 7/30/24 18:28, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote: I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
73,
Eric WG3K
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Many thanks Andrew and Eric.? I got the account on OSM and explored before I wrote the question but quickly decided I was probably going to do more harm than good trying to fix it...so thanks for making the updates, I look forward to seeing them in the updated YAAC server files.
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Mark Lindsey
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Bad news. The date of the weekly OSM snapshot that was posted 5 days ago started the export 4 days before that, i.e., it took 4 _days_ to do the export. Which makes me guess that the next transactional export started a day before Eric made the
edit, so his fixes won't show up until the export after that starts on August 6th, which won't be available until August 10th, and therefore not processed and posted by me until at least the 12th.
Andrew, KA2DDO
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Many thanks Andrew and Eric.? I got the account on OSM and explored before I wrote the question but quickly decided I was probably going to do more harm than good trying to fix it...so thanks for making the updates, I look forward to seeing them in the
updated YAAC server files.
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
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Mark, I usually don't take requests but if it's something annoying the ham community, and I have some time, I can go in and fix things.
That said, there are a ton of videos on YouTube, written resources online, and other cartographers in chat rooms that can help you learn how to do it yourself.? The OSM Wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org) is a great resource for finding out how things are expected to be tagged.
If I can help you out, please let me know.
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On Wednesday, July 31st, 2024 at 08:24, Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...> wrote:
Many thanks Andrew and Eric.? I got the account on OSM and explored before I wrote the question but quickly decided I was probably going to do more harm than good trying to fix it...so thanks for making the updates, I look forward to seeing them in the updated YAAC server files.
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Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
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Hi there,
A useful alternative to mapping missing/fixing incorrect OSM data is by using the mobile app Streetcomplete [1]. It's currently only available for Android.
It allows you to add missing OSM data (data to a high level of specificity, e.g. width of roads, tactile kerbs at pedestrian crossings, etc) while you walk. To have your edits accepted you still need an openstreetmap.org website account.
I'm not affiliated with the creator, but I'm a big user of it for mapping local data.
Hope that helps.
73s,
Bernard/ei8fdb/m5fdb
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On 31/07/2024 12:53, Andrew P. wrote: Get an account on the openstreetmap.org website, then use the web-based map editors (I usually use iD) to correct existing entries or draw new ones. For example, I went around my neighborhood and plotted the location of every fire hydrant, and then used iD to add new Nodes for each fire hydrant at the appropriate coordinates with the attribute emergency=fire_hydrant.
However, if you do make changes, please make sure they are accurate, precise, and correct. You've already seen the problems caused by erroneous input data. Better not to enter anything than to enter something wrong.
Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DavidC KD4E <qrv@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 8:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Map edits for OSM
There are lots of errors and missing data in Bulloch County, GA
What's the best way to submit corrections, please?
On 7/30/24 18:28, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote:
I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.
73,
Eric WG3K
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Mark
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