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Re: Yaac Autostart

 

This thread from the group covers several ways to do what you want.

/g/yaac-users/topic/79528619#907

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Wolfgang Hertkorn <W.Hertkorn@...>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 12:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Yaac Autostart

Hi, this is Wolfgang DL6SW from Stuttgart, Germany,

can anyone tell me how to create an autostart script or similar on my raspberry pi?

The software YAAC is running well and the configuration was easy for a fill in Digi here in Stuttgart .

The only thing I can`t manage is, that YAAC is restarting after a reboot.

Thanks in advance

73 Wolfgang


Yaac Autostart

Wolfgang Hertkorn
 

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Hi, this is Wolfgang DL6SW from Stuttgart, Germany,

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can anyone tell me how to create an autostart script or similar on my raspberry pi?

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The software YAAC is running well and the configuration was easy for a fill in Digi here in Stuttgart .

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The only thing I can`t manage is, that YAAC is restarting after a reboot.

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Thanks in advance

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73 Wolfgang


Re: Switch to Kiss Mode

 

Yes, or possibly

\e@K\r

(so it gets a carriage return to finish the command)

Is there supposed to be a space after the escape?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DG2GSV <andrion.acker@...>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 3:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Switch to Kiss Mode

Hello Andrew,

thanks for your support. Your program is amazing. :)

I will try that. In my case i have to enter:

\e @K

right?

vy73 de Volker


Re: Switch to Kiss Mode

 

Hello Andrew,

thanks for your support. Your program is amazing. :)

I will try that. In my case i have to enter:

\e @K

right?

vy73 de Volker


Re: Switch to Kiss Mode

 

Whatever the characters are that make up the switching command, just type them in the text box next to the dropdown, instead of picking one of the pre-defined choices. The help in YAAC documents the escape codes to put control characters like carriage return into the sequence (i.e., "\r" means the carriage return control character rather than a backslash followed by a lower-case R, "\e" means the escape control code, etc.).

Note these have to be the commands the hardware itself is expecting, not the codes you would type into a different intervening program.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of DG2GSV <andrion.acker@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 2:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Switch to Kiss Mode

Hello,
is there a way to switch my TNC2S with "The Firmware 2.7" to kiss mode when the program starts? The host command is "ESC @K" . The Firmware is WA8DED compatible.
Many Thanks
73 de DG2GSV


Switch to Kiss Mode

 

Hello,
is there a way to switch my TNC2S with "The Firmware 2.7" to kiss mode when the program starts? The host command is "ESC @K" . The Firmware is WA8DED compatible.
Many Thanks
73 de DG2GSV


Re: Station Alias

 

Thanks for the detailed explanation. On questions is where do I set the Alias in the YAAC so that when it digipeats, the Alias shows up as being digipeated instead of the callsign. This is the current configuration on the KPC-3. I'm trying to replicate it on YAAC


On Sat, Jul 10, 2021, 6:21 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
These are fundamental operations in YAAC.

For the station beacon, just fill in the appropriate data for your beacon record in your configuration. The W2,WAn part of the comment was included because that particular station is a digipeater supporting both the WIDE2-n aliases and the WAn aliases (presumably because it's located in Washington state). YAAC will automatically include the appropriate alias codes before your free-text comment if your station is configured as a digipeater.

As for the object reports, right-click on the map where you want the object to appear, then select Create Object on the popup menu. A dialog will appear (similar to the beacon panel) for filling in the parameters for your Object report. Fill it in and click OK to get YAAC to start sending the Object report. You can create any number of locally-originated Objects in YAAC. The View->Local Objects menu choice allows to to keep track of and manage your locally-originated Object records. Note that, by default, YAAC does not remember created Objects over software restarts. You can change this behavior in the expert-mode Configuration dialog. You can also save your local Objects to a UIView-compatible .pos file and reload them.

Note there are specific rules for the Object name when creating an Object for a repeater, such that Kenwood radios will properly recognize them and allow the TUNE button to jump you to the correct repeater settings.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Kun N7DMR
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 3:05 AM
Subject: [yaac-users] Station Alias

I am wondering how do you create a beacon in YAAC like this
And how do you make a Beacon for APRS object






Re: Station Alias

 

These are fundamental operations in YAAC.

For the station beacon, just fill in the appropriate data for your beacon record in your configuration. The W2,WAn part of the comment was included because that particular station is a digipeater supporting both the WIDE2-n aliases and the WAn aliases (presumably because it's located in Washington state). YAAC will automatically include the appropriate alias codes before your free-text comment if your station is configured as a digipeater.

As for the object reports, right-click on the map where you want the object to appear, then select Create Object on the popup menu. A dialog will appear (similar to the beacon panel) for filling in the parameters for your Object report. Fill it in and click OK to get YAAC to start sending the Object report. You can create any number of locally-originated Objects in YAAC. The View->Local Objects menu choice allows to to keep track of and manage your locally-originated Object records. Note that, by default, YAAC does not remember created Objects over software restarts. You can change this behavior in the expert-mode Configuration dialog. You can also save your local Objects to a UIView-compatible .pos file and reload them.

Note there are specific rules for the Object name when creating an Object for a repeater, such that Kenwood radios will properly recognize them and allow the TUNE button to jump you to the correct repeater settings.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Kun N7DMR
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 3:05 AM
Subject: [yaac-users] Station Alias

I am wondering how do you create a beacon in YAAC like this
And how do you make a Beacon for APRS object


Station Alias

 

I am wondering how do you create a beacon in YAAC like this?
And how do you make a Beacon for APRS object?


Open Street Map

 

This probably won't affect YAAC, but...
OpenStreetMap looks to relocate to EU due to Brexit limitations


Bob? G0BUX/W0BUX


Re: Desktop shortcut for YAAC

WB9EZB
 

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I sent instructions on setting up a shortcut to the group awhile ago, I think Andy posted it somewhere..search my callsign
WB9EZB if you cant find it I will look fir it at home


On Jun 12, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Tim Huffaker <thuffaker@...> wrote:

?Hello, ?My desktop with my raspberry pi did not work so I have a couple of questions. ?

Does the file have to say YAACstart.desktop, I have YAAC.desktop?
Should have I made a .txt file and copy it to the desktop folder. ?
Do you have to make the file executable, I did and that did not work. ?


I have everting else working except the ICON to start the program.

Tim
KM4ESU?


Re: Desktop shortcut for YAAC

 

Hello, ?My desktop with my raspberry pi did not work so I have a couple of questions. ?

Does the file have to say YAACstart.desktop, I have YAAC.desktop?
Should have I made a .txt file and copy it to the desktop folder. ?
Do you have to make the file executable, I did and that did not work. ?


I have everting else working except the ICON to start the program.

Tim
KM4ESU?


Re: Windows pc problem

 

Thank you

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From: "Andrew P."
To: "[email protected]"
Cc:
Sent: Thursday June 3 2021 4:28:53PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Windows pc problem

Have you installed the Java Runtime on your Windows system? As mentioned on the webpage, Java is a prerequisite for running YAAC. You can get it here:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:12 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [yaac-users] Windows pc problem

How is a windows pc supposed to open jar files? Mine won't

Chris







Re: Windows pc problem

 

Have you installed the Java Runtime on your Windows system? As mentioned on the webpage, Java is a prerequisite for running YAAC. You can get it here:



or you can use a more recent release of Java.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:12 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: [yaac-users] Windows pc problem

How is a windows pc supposed to open jar files? Mine won't

Chris


Re: Windows pc problem

 

You must have the Java Runtime Environment installed.

Michael WA7SKG


Christopher Rose wrote on 6/3/21 1:12 PM:

How is a windows pc supposed to open jar files? Mine won't
Chris
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Windows pc problem

 

How is a windows pc supposed to open jar files? Mine won't

Chris


Re: APRS-IS filter + Supplemental TX I-gate filter

 

Not a problem about asking questions; sometimes these questions get asked _after_ someone reads the help pages. Good documentation is hard to write, so I'm always looking for places where I need to tweak it to be more helpful. 95% of YAAC builds have documentation updates, even if no new features were added in those builds.

Re: saving the supplemental filter: you need to press the ENTER key when you are finished changing the supplemental filter field (and the cursor is still in the field) so YAAC knows you are done editing. It doesn't apply intermediate changes on a keystroke by keystroke basis. And I can't do it just because you shift the keyboard focus somewhere else; you might be reading the webpage on filter expressions while you are editing, so I don't want to apply the filters just because you went back to read about the next filter type. I probably should add an explicit Save button for that which indicates you have unsaved changes.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of johnhaley3@... <johnhaley3@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] APRS-IS filter + Supplemental TX I-gate filter

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: apologies to the group for not reading before asking]

Apologies.... after I RTFM a little more deeply (I was looking online for answers and should have just been reading the help pages), most of these questions are answered for me.

I'm noticing that when I attempt to change the string on the supplemental TX filter field, it doesn't seem to save. When I close the configure tab and reopen it, the previous string is still there, even when I try clearing it out.

~~~~~original message below.
is it true that the supplemental TX filter can only pull from the subset of packets that is downloaded from APRS-IS via the port filter? If I set a simple m/100 in the port filter, I can only transmit packets from within 100km of my location, regardless of which filters I have in the supplemental TX filter?

Also, looking at findu, There's no actual packets recorded from AE5PL-WX, just the various aliases he/she originates (LUBSVR for Lubbock storms, LUBTOR for Lubbock tornadoes, AMASVR for Amarillo storms, etc). He uses a different alias for each category, but they all start with LUB. Could I set b/LUB* in the server-side filter and then m/100 in the transmit filter to accomplish the same thing? Or do I have to specify the full string in each field? +b/LUB* +m/100 in each field


Re: APRS-IS filter + Supplemental TX I-gate filter

 

Yes, the supplemental filter only applies to packets actually received from APRS-IS, and it doesn't implicitly augment the APRS-IS port filter. And anything that came in from an RF port would be treated as being a digipeat situation (i.e., RF to RF), not Tx I-gated, so digipeating rules would apply instead of I-gating rules.

Those aliases AE5PL-WX are using are the National Weather Service regional office ID's (LUB for the Lubbock office, etc.) appended with the code for the type of alert (SVR for severe weather, TOR for tornado, etc.). So your suggested buddy filter makes sense, though (for example) you might want to say +b/LUB*/AMA* to accept either Lubbock or Amarillo if you are on the border between those two forecast offices' territories; you can check their assigned forecast coverage areas on their respective pages on the NWS website. You also might want to bias the center of your chosen weather area to be a little upwind of your station, considering that most severe weather will be carried in by the prevailing winds; on the other hand, if you have rivers prone to flooding coming from a different direction, ignore that.

However, you should always be _extremely_ conservative and restrictive with the supplemental Tx filter to only forward _exactly_ what you want supplemented. If you change the filter on your APRS-IS port to be more permissive, a supplemental filter (that assumes a tight port filter would protect it) might let too much excess traffic through because of the increase in received Internet traffic. So I would recommend specifying both in the supplemental filter, just to prevent accidental flooding of the local RF channel, regardless of what you specify in the port filter. Also, I suggest using r/ filters instead of m/ filters; if your beacon stops getting transmitted for any reason (software glitch, loss of GPS signal, etc.), the APRS-IS won't know where your station is to figure the center of the filtering circle, but the r/ filter always specifies the center as well as the radius.

Just FYI, the ranges in filter expressions are always in kilometers, not statute or nautical miles.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of johnhaley3@...
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] APRS-IS filter + Supplemental TX I-gate filter

is it true that the supplemental TX filter can only pull from the subset of packets that is downloaded from APRS-IS via the port filter? If I set a simple m/100 in the port filter, I can only transmit packets from within 100km of my location, regardless of which filters I have in the supplemental TX filter?

Also, looking at findu, There's no actual packets recorded from AE5PL-WX, just the various aliases he/she originates (LUBSVR for Lubbock storms, LUBTOR for Lubbock tornadoes, AMASVR for Amarillo storms, etc). He uses a different alias for each category, but they all start with LUB. Could I set b/LUB* in the server-side filter and then m/100 in the transmit filter to accomplish the same thing? Or do I have to specify the full string in each field? +b/LUB* +m/100 in each field


Re: APRS-IS filter + Supplemental TX I-gate filter

 
Edited

Apologies.... after I RTFM a little more deeply (I was looking online for answers and should have just been reading the help pages), most of these questions are answered for me.

I'm noticing that when I attempt to change the string on the supplemental TX filter field, it doesn't seem to save.? When I close the configure tab and reopen it, the previous string is still there, even when I try clearing it out.

~~~~~original message below.
is it true that the supplemental TX filter can only pull from the subset of packets that is downloaded from APRS-IS via the port filter?? If I set a simple m/100 in the port filter, I can only transmit packets from within 100km of my location, regardless of which filters I have in the supplemental TX filter?

Also, looking at findu, There's no actual packets recorded from AE5PL-WX, just the various aliases he/she originates (LUBSVR for Lubbock storms, LUBTOR for Lubbock tornadoes, AMASVR for Amarillo storms, etc).? He uses a different alias for each category, but they all start with LUB.? Could I set b/LUB* in the server-side filter and then m/100 in the transmit filter to accomplish the same thing?? Or do I have to specify the full string in each field?? +b/LUB* +m/100 in each field


Re: APRS-IS filter + Supplemental TX I-gate filter

 

Alas, the filters don't work quite as you think they do.

Your filter expression of

b/AE5PL-WX m/100

means "send every packet within 100 kilometers of my beacon _or_ sent from AE5PL-WX". Filter expressions don't boolean AND together, they are boolean OR'd together. So you would have been flooding every packet for every NWS region (not just your local ones) to RF.

If you want to force an AND operation, you need to put a "+" on the front of each "must pass" filter. So to get the ANDing operation you were expecting, you should say

+b/AE5PL-WX +m/100

This applies both to the supplemental filter and the original filter on the APRS-IS feed. Alas, ANDing takes precedence over ORing in the filter expressions, so you can't say something like

(+b/AE5PL-WX +m/100) b/KA2DDO

to get the severe weather data you want _plus_ all the traffic from me; parentheses aren't allowed, so without them, the 3rd filter expression would only take effect if it also passed the first two, which it couldn't by definition because my callsign isn't also AE5PL-WX at the same time.

Now, you could do the ORing in the feed from APRS-IS, and the ANDing in the supplemental expression, so you could still see other traffic on your local station, but not be forcing it to local RF.

Andrew, KA2DDO
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of johnhaley3@... <johnhaley3@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2021 12:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] APRS-IS filter + Supplemental TX I-gate filter

I have a Tx/Rx i-Gate located in Lubbock, TX.
There is a station elsewhere in Texas that seems to be downloading storm/weather objects and injecting them into APRS-IS.
The station is AE5PL-WX, I can't pull it up on APRS.fi. It puts the objects in the data stream with various source callsigns depending on the object type and location. For example AMASVR for Amarillo severe storm, or LUBTOR for Lubbock Tornado.



I have a goal of pulling out his severe weather objects from APRS-IS and putting them out on RF, for mobile operators. With a range limitation so I'm not blasting my local area with San Antonio's weather objects.
I think I have it figured out but thankfully the severe weather events aren't frequent enough that I can easily experiment.

I have the APRS-IS port filter set as b/AE5PL-WX m/100, and the Supplemental TX I-gate filter (on the transmit tab) set for b/AE5PL-WX. The way I *think* this works is that the APRS-IS port filter "subscribes" to a defined set of packets, and the supplemental filter chooses which of those downloaded packets then gets transmitted. So I *think* I'm telling APRS-IS to send me all of AE5PL-WX's objects within 100km of my station, and then transmitting all of them (since the range has already been limited by the first step).
Am I doing this right?

When I check the Transmit I-Gated stations list on the View dropdown, there is a single entry there, with a 2 in the "# other traffic" column and timestamp in the "last other traffic time" column with all else being blank (Except callsign LUBSVR - does this mean I've successfully "transmit I-gated" that station back out to RF?

Still learning.. Thanks!
JH