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GPS configuration problem
I've been playing with some new ideas lately, this is for a mobile hotspot running YAAC. So I have a fresh install, just VNC, gpsd and YAAC, with a USP GPS unit. What is curious is that I can see valid data with the Test Serial GPS Port window Then, just seconds later when I enable the port I get "unable to open or configure port" Is there something I'm missing? |
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Re: APRS-IS problem. Do I have a problem, or is it the network?
Andrew gave me a clue and I think we figured it out. It's because I set up a webserver, my router is sending some of my ports to the webserver. Apparently one port too many. Hopefully you'll never see this, but if you do you'll know the answer. Thanks Andrew! |
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Re: New feature request: export wxnow.txt
Thanks Jeff. I wouldn't spin any wheels on it. Until I get this thing in QST there probably isn't anyone but me doing something like this. But we're making good progress on the other end, we've got wxnow.txt going into the other device. Now we just have to get the rain reading right. |
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Re: New feature request: export wxnow.txt
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAh ok I see what your use case is there. No there is no way of me doing that with the application. I might be able to spin it off into a Wether only APRS application, but that would be down the road. Right now, it¡¯s set as a timed check to the APRS IS using the ?API. Even if I did put a check in, you would have to bang on the API so often to make it work, it would cause them problems.? Let me put it on the list of things to look at and see what I can come up with.?
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Re: New feature request: export wxnow.txt
Firstly, I have to apologize for being unclear. I'm not asking for any changes in YAAC as this has nothing to do with the core functions. I'm referring to adding to the Weather Alert Plug-in. I should have been more specific.
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I was excited when I first started playing with the Weather Alert plugin because reporting the wind and rain to NWS from a very remote station was something I'd been trying to implement. This seemed like the perfect solution. But then, of course, I started thinking about what I could do if it also contained temp, humidity, barometer and soon I had a long wish list, including Twitter. A downside of any changes that I might ask for would be that it may become less useful for other users.
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While I was testing the Weather Alert plugin I saw my three stations listed in a column and it was then that I thought "Wouldn't it be nice if I could get this data out on a webserver just like this column?"
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Now I have another device, Meteobridge, which is based on DD-WRT for each of my (non-solar) stations.? It's designed to connect 28 models of weather stations to 29 online weather services, CWOP, email, SMS, SQL, FTP and Twitter. It has robust scripting and I have spent many hours setting up conditions and responses, resets, messages and alerts. Other than sending to CWOP it has no concept of APRS-IS.
Many alerts are incremental; for example I can have a low temp alert send a message or alert at 35 degrees and at every five degrees lower, each with a slightly different message wording.
This is the platform that I should be doing this on; asking to tweak the Weather Alert plugin to be similar is wrong.?
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Just recently a user-defined weather station input was added to Meteobridge and I've met an extension programmer that can make it think wxnow.txt is a weather station reporting in. Yes, it seems a little clunky to pass off a text file like this. It flies against good engineering and programming.
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I'm fairly proficient using YAAC and I'm fairly proficient using Meteobridge, but I don't have the ability to write a program to extract my stations from APRS-IS. And yes, as the YAAC Weather Alert plugin has already pulled out the correct data from the correct station it would require a lot of wheel re-invention to duplicate that. What I'd hoped is that exporting wxnow.txt would be fairly simple, I'd then just continue to use the two programs that work so well for me and I'd leave overworked authors alone.? :)
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Now, I have to admit that at this time this will only benefit one person, me. But I am in the process of writing up my solar powered digipeater saga for QST so there is a good chance it will have more interest.
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Jeff: APRSnotify would work well for my nightly weather summary but I could not see a way for it to send out a notification when wind gusts hit 50 MPH. Did I miss something? |
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Re: New feature request: export wxnow.txt
Did APRSnotify not work for you, Bill?
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Jeff On Mar 23, 2021, at 11:14 AM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: |
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Re: New feature request: export wxnow.txt
Interesting. Let me make sure I understand your concept.
You want YAAC to collect the data from multiple weather stations and export the current weather data from each one into a separate wxnow.txt file. Some other program downstream will then consume the multiple wxnow.txt files. This could be done, although I wouldn't want to put it in core YAAC, but in a plugin. But why can't the downstream Tweet-generating consumer collect the APRS packets from the multiple weather stations directly? It seems a bit kludgy to have an extra program and data drop-point. There are enough APRS libraries out there that you could write a simple program to pull only weather data from the APRS-IS backbone and convert to Twitter (if you can't get to APRS-IS, you wouldn't be able to get to Twitter either). I'm assuming the reason you want YAAC to do it is so you don't have to "re-invent the square wheel" regarding APRS-IS protocol and decoding both position and weather data and associating them with specific stations (i.e., the data analysis back-end features of YAAC). Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill WA4OPQ <wa4opq@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2021 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] New feature request: export wxnow.txt I had asked in the past about sending weather alerts to Twitter and I now understand the problems with that. At the same time Andrew mentioned his caution about trying to make YAAC a universal solution. That made a lot of sense to me. So I'm working on a solution that solves both of these problems: My remote wx/digipeater(s) sends to YAAC . The weather alert plugin would continue to show the weather at multiple sites. But it would also output a wxnow.txt file in local directory of (raspberry's) webserver: /var/www/html/remotewx1/ ... /remotewx2/ ... One of the extension programmers working on Meteobridge is taking the wxnow.txt file off of the server as a weather station input. With that I'll be able to create my triggers and send to numerous services, including Twitter. Do you think this is possible to add this function? |
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New feature request: export wxnow.txt
I had asked in the past about sending weather alerts to Twitter and I now understand the problems with that. At the same time Andrew mentioned his caution about trying to make YAAC a universal solution. That made a lot of sense to me.
So I'm working on a solution that solves both of these problems: My remote wx/digipeater(s) sends? to YAAC . The weather alert plugin would continue to show the weather at multiple sites. But it would also output a wxnow.txt file in local directory of (raspberry's) webserver:? ?/var/www/html/remotewx1/ ... /remotewx2/ ... One of the extension programmers working on Meteobridge is taking the wxnow.txt file off of the server as a weather station input. With that I'll be able to create my triggers and send to numerous services, including Twitter. Do you think this is possible to add this function? |
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Re: No download US Radar
Thanks. I think I found an equivalent to the old file at the web directory , but since there isn't a single file in the directory, but timestamp-named files, I'll have to search the directory for the latest date/time file and then download that specific file.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerald Meadows - NOAA Federal via groups.io <jerald.meadows@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 8:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [yaac-users] No download US Radar Andrew, I am not sure exactly what page you had referenced prior exactly, but the NWS has completely revamped our radar page so it might be hard to find an exact match. If you can use GIS shapefiles for this purpose, you might want to check out, , , or . Let me know if I can be of further assistance. On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:23 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...<mailto:andrewemt@...>> wrote: Yes, the US National Weather Service has moved the location of this data file. I hope to have found the new URL and coded it into the next build of YAAC. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Rick <kd4dra@...<mailto:kd4dra@...>> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:04 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [yaac-users] No download US Radar I try to download US Weather Radar, under View/raster maps I get error, Unable to load image file Thanks for any help Rick -- Jerald Meadows Meteorologist in Charge San Joaquin Valley/Hanford Weather Forecast Office 900 Foggy Bottom Rd, Hanford, CA 93230 P: 559.584.0583 X 222 Weather.gov/Hanford<> | Twitter<> | Facebook<> |
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Re: No download US Radar
Jerald Meadows - NOAA Federal
Andrew, I am not sure exactly what page you had referenced prior exactly, but the NWS has completely revamped our radar page so it might be hard to find an exact match. If you can use GIS shapefiles for this purpose, you might want to check out,?,?, or?. Let me know if I can be of?further assistance. On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:23 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote: Yes, the US National Weather Service has moved the location of this data file. I hope to have found the new URL and coded it into the next build of YAAC. --
Jerald Meadows Meteorologist in Charge? San Joaquin Valley/Hanford Weather Forecast Office 900 Foggy Bottom Rd, Hanford, CA 93230 P: 559.584.0583 X 222 ?|??|? |
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Re: No download US Radar
Thank you for your hard work. Rick ? USAF ?VETERAN ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?I ----===_/( . )\_===---- ? ? ? Rick, kd4dra On March 16, 2021 2:23:21 PM "Andrew P." <andrewemt@...> wrote:
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Re: No download US Radar
Yes, the US National Weather Service has moved the location of this data file. I hope to have found the new URL and coded it into the next build of YAAC.
Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Rick <kd4dra@...> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] No download US Radar I try to download US Weather Radar, under View/raster maps I get error, Unable to load image file Thanks for any help Rick |
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Re: Davis Reply from using YAAC on Linux
Re:? ?Microsat products. I have used a number of Microsat devices over the past few years and have found them to be well built and reliable.? Microsat is a very small company, but most of our best APRS suppliers are.? Mateusz who runs the company has always been very responsive - in good English.? I have had one of his WX3IN! Plus devices in operation for 6 years in a remote digipeater installation and it has performed flawlessly.? I have never used any of his devices as WX station interfaces so I can't comment on that aspect.? The ULARI does look like an interesting device and I have been visiting the web site occasionally to see what progress has been made.? The answer is that for over a year there hasn't been any.? The description says "this product is currently out of stock" but I am not sure that it ever has been in stock. It is possible that the pandemic has caused him to suspend development.? I can only suggest that we continue monitoring the website to see if it becomes available. I am not sure that he has ever sold his products through places like HRO.? I have always ordered directly from Poland for shipment to the UK. Robert Clinton? ?W0BUX / G0BUX
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Re: Davis Reply from using YAAC on Linux
Yep, that's why I don't support the Davis weather stations directly. They claim their protocols are well-supported; yes, if you pay extra for the adapter device (especially the amateur-specific one that they discontinued), they are. And, like almost everyone else (excepts hams), they assume the Internet will always be up, functional, and accessible from where you are, and that delayed or throttled data is acceptable to you. My local ARES/RACES group is dealing with just such an issue for our county Department of Emergency Services, as they need wind monitoring for a specific potential hazardous materials incident (specifically, a natural gas pipeline) at more places than we have ham radio operators to host APRS weather stations.
This is why I didn't add Davis-specific support to YAAC, since some adapter was going to have to be used anyway. The WXNOW.TXT port type in YAAC is for one of the most common formats for generic weather station data access. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard Beggs <richard.n0eb@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:49 PM To: Andrew Pavlin Subject: [yaac-users] Davis Reply from using YAAC on Linux Andrew Here is the response I received from Davis Weather. I would also like to draw you attention to a new product I am trying to acquire. I have HRO trying to get one of these so we can see how it works. Thank You and God Bless [¡`] Richard Richard Beggs N0EB 145.295 1220 H Street Salida, Co. 81201 Email: Richard.N0EB@... ** ##- Please type your reply above this line -## Hello, Your support ticket has been updated. [] Bruce Johnson (Davis Instruments) Mar 10, 2021, 3:08 PM PST Hello Richard, Our protocol are very well established and we cannot change them for someone else's needs. We have literally thousands of developers that are using our protocols and changing the protocol for 1 designer will break things for all of the other designers. We do have our protocols well documented. We do have multiple ways to push data to the CWOP and or APRS. We do combine the terms as for MOST people, they are considered the same, although they are not. If you are pushing though a APRS modem, we used to have a special data logger designed for this. It would very well however, there was not enough interest in it any longer, so this has been discontinued. Then next popular method is to use our software. The WeatherLink soft can push out to APRS if you are using WINDOWS. It looks like this in not a viable option as it looks like you are using Linux. Another option is to use our WEBSITE to push. Here it pushed to CWOP, but get pushed to APRS from them. This is great of most people, however the push upload is anywhere from 15 - 60 min depending on the hardware. With the latest hardware, there are subscription you can push as fast as once a minute. These are the most common. Then there are other software packages. that work fine. I am NOT familiar with the one you mention "YAAC". It sounds like they are using some format that is for PEET BROS only. They have there formats and we have our formats and both are proprietary. They would not let us use their format, and we would not allow them to use our format. It is not our issue that YAAC only uses their standard. It is not a very well promoted standard as it is only used by PEET. We have made out data available for developers (as I said earlier, we have thousands of developers writing software) We have data APIs that use the WEB (this is the easiest, but it would require you to push data to the web, and has limits as to the age of the data. Then the most flexible way is to use our serial reference guide. This will allow any data logger to communicate through to get access to the data. This data is provided in in binary block and is does require some programming skills, but it is well documented and used for many years. You can find this located here: We do require the purchase of a data logger as there are so many different options people want, and to include them all would add to the cost of the device. I really hope this helps you to become a loyal Davis fan, as this is something that should be able to be resolved! Although you are in to fairly niche groups (HAM and Linux) we should still be able to assist! ________________________________ Bruce Johnson Technical Support Davis Instruments [] JenniferA Mar 8, 2021, 2:05 PM PST -----Original Message----- From: Davis Instruments <noreply@...<mailto:noreply@...>> Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 10:02 AM To: Sales <sales@...<mailto:sales@...>> Subject: Get in touch. From Richard Beggs Name: Richard Beggs Email: richard.n0eb@...<mailto:richard.n0eb@...> Industry: Weather Address: 1220 H St Business: Call: 719-539-5435 Message: Well I a just about ready to put my Davis Vantage Pro 2 on Ebay and sell it. Your data is impossible to work with. I Have your weather station and I need the data to go to APRS-IS and I am using YAAC for that purpose. But your data is impossible to format or use with YAAC. To quote the man that wrote YAAC "The Serial_Weather port type in YAAC only supports Peet Bros weather stations (or any other brand that uses one or more of the protocols Peet Bros uses for their serial weather data). Davis explicitly does not use that protocol, and does not document their protocols at all, and requires that you buy one of their WeatherLink adapters to be able to get the weather data out of one of their consoles; depending on the adapter type you buy, the weather data may or may not go to where you want it to go." I now have the USB and serial interface and I am working with a Linux professional that is trying to figure out a solution. WXNOW.TXT looked like It might be a solution but this soft ware is unsupported and very out dated. As one of the Ham radio people that report weather I am and use Linux I am about to tell everyone one face book and Eham to stay away from your products for lack of support. Thank you and God Bless Richard To add additional comments, reply to this email. ____________________________ Technical Support Davis Instruments Hayward, CA, USA This email is a service from Davis Instruments. Delivered by Zendesk<> [Z3LVGZ-3QPM] |
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Davis Reply from using YAAC on Linux
Andrew Here is the response I received from Davis Weather. I would also like to draw you attention to a new product I am trying to acquire.??? I have HRO trying to get one of these so we can see how it works. Thank You and God Bless? ![]() Richard Richard Beggs? ? ? ? ? ? N0EB? ? ? 145.295 1220 H Street Salida, Co. 81201 Email:?Richard.N0EB@... ? ** ##- Please type your reply above this line -##
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Re: Davis Vantage Pro 2 with Ubuntu OS
OK, a few issues here:
1. The Serial_Weather port type in YAAC only supports Peet Bros weather stations (or any other brand that uses one or more of the protocols Peet Bros uses for their serial weather data). Davis explicitly does not use that protocol, and does not document their protocols at all, and requires that you buy one of their WeatherLink adapters to be able to get the weather data out of one of their consoles; depending on the adapter type you buy, the weather data may or may not go to where you want it to go. 2. The WXNOW.TXT port type requires a third-party weather program (such as Cumulus) that can accept the data from your particular model of weather station and convert it into a WXNOW.TXT file that YAAC can read. The file isn't created by YAAC, but read by YAAC after the other program creates or updates the file. Sorry about the bad news. Not sure why Davis is so stingy about letting purchasers of their weather stations actually use the data by any means other than a human staring at the console screen, but that's the way they do things. Andrew, KA2DDO author of YAAC ________________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Art N4EZZ <n4ezz@...> Sent: Saturday, March 6, 2021 5:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [yaac-users] Davis Vantage Pro 2 with Ubuntu OS From a friend who is trying to setup a weather station. Art N4EZZ <n4ezz@...> OpenPGP fingerprint E83F A68B 9E63 934A C4AC 1084 83C5 FDD3 9932 338E ============================= there's no logic behind anything that happens here -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Richard Beggs <richard.n0eb@...> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 15:21:54 -0700 Subject: Davis Vantage Pro 2 with Ubuntu OS Andrew I hope someone can help me get my Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station to interface with YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 400 running Ubuntu 20.04 OS. I have a friend that is very sharp on LINUX but for the life of us we have not been able to resolve some problems. When we select the port the only selection under speed is 1200, 2400, 9600 and all the documents from Davis say it must be 19200? We have even tried to use WXNOW.TXT with no joy. I now have the USB interface and the serial interface trying to solve this problem. Can you or anyone out there point us in the right direction to get the Davis to interface with YAAC under Ubuntu OS on a Raspberry Pi? -- Thank You and God Bless [image: ¡`] Richard Richard Beggs N0EB 145.295 1220 H Street Salida, Co. 81201 ** |
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Davis Vantage Pro 2 with Ubuntu OS
From a friend who is trying to setup a weather station.
Art N4EZZ <n4ezz@...> OpenPGP fingerprint E83F A68B 9E63 934A C4AC 1084 83C5 FDD3 9932 338E ============================= there's no logic behind anything that happens here -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Richard Beggs <richard.n0eb@...> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2021 15:21:54 -0700 Subject: Davis Vantage Pro 2 with Ubuntu OS Andrew I hope someone can help me get my Davis Vantage Pro 2 weather station to interface with YAAC on a Raspberry Pi 400 running Ubuntu 20.04 OS. I have a friend that is very sharp on LINUX but for the life of us we have not been able to resolve some problems. When we select the port the only selection under speed is 1200, 2400, 9600 and all the documents from Davis say it must be 19200? We have even tried to use WXNOW.TXT with no joy. I now have the USB interface and the serial interface trying to solve this problem. Can you or anyone out there point us in the right direction to get the Davis to interface with YAAC under Ubuntu OS on a Raspberry Pi? -- Thank You and God Bless [image: ¡`] Richard Richard Beggs N0EB 145.295 1220 H Street Salida, Co. 81201 ** |
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