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Re: YAAP not logging rain (revisit Sept 20 #547)

 

Thanks Andrew , hope the following will give you the info you requested.

The data from the Ultimeter is fed through a 5-port serial adapter (PeetBros p/n WSF-02065) to the two computers and weather picture.

The Ultimeter and computer clock is within a few seconds apart, same date.

Hope the attachments will suffice,
Fred


Re: 2m-70cm crossband messaging

 

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KP3FT
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 9:57 AM
Subject: [yaac-users] 2m-70cm crossband messaging

Hi all,

Using YAAC for crossbanding 2m and 70cm. It's working great, but is there a way to have a message sent on one port be only transmitted on that port, and not simultaneously on both? I have two AGWPE ports set up; KP3FT-2 for 2m and KP3FT-4 on 70cm, each on a monoband radio.

For example, if I click on N2SPI's map icon that was received on 2m and send the chat message "Test" to him,

it sends this on 2mm:
KP3FT-2>APJYC1,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::N2SPI :Test

and this on 70cm:
KP3FT-4>APJYC1,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1::N2SPI :Test

If it's not possible, can I do it by running two instances of YAAC with each configured to use one AGWPE port with different SSID's, or some other way?

Thanks, 73


Re: Raspbian 64bit Yaac

 

Do you mean you can't run only YAAC, or that you can't run _any_ Java program? There have been issues reported before about Raspbian not providing a 64-bit version of the Java runtime. To confirm it is a Java problem, open a command shell window and type the command

java -version

If this prints out the version of the Java runtime, then Java is working (although not necessarily completely). If it prints out an error saying the program couldn't be executed, then it's a Java runtime problem.

Verify that you have installed a 64-bit version of the openjdk-jre package.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of toy4trax@... <toy4trax@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 3:47 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Raspbian 64bit Yaac

I've got a Pi4 4GB and running Raspbian.

I have YAAC up and running, but if it change the Pi settings to run 64bit, the program no longer runs.

Fully updated/upgraded.

running the command confirms 64bit os running
"uname -m"
aarch64


Re: Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

 

Ah. Standards are such wonderful things; there are so many to choose from. :-(

Kamtronics has always been inconsistent with the TNC2 standard. However, Yaesu decided that their proprietary format on their APRS-capable radios would be inconsistent with both TNC2 _and_ Kamtronics formats. So I can't advise you to try the Yaesu port driver either.

However, the Yaesu format is close enough to the Kamtronics format that I can probably hack the Yaesu port driver to support both. But it won't be available until the next build comes out.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of kh6mp@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

I've captured some output with the KPC3+ in command mode with monitor on. I've pasted *some* of it below but I've attached a much larger capture as a txt file. This was captured with PuTTY and pasted into notepad on Windows.

That would be great if you make this fly!

Mahalo,
Mitch

KANTRONICS KPC3PMX VERSION 9.1
(C) COPYRIGHT 2002-2005 BY KANTRONICS INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
DUPLICATION PROHIBITED WITHOUT PERMISSION OF KANTRONICS.
cmd:KH6HHG-9>R0UPXW,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`T/{n@Fk/'"8w}|!'&''X|!w!&!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPXW,NH7C-5,WIDE1,KH6MP-1,WIDE2*: <UI>:
`T/{n@Fk/'"8w}|!'&''X|!w!&!|3


Re: Desktop shortcut for YAAC

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Make text file using text editor and save it in
/home/pi/Desktop directory.
Name the file YAACstart.desktop

Enter the following in the file :

[Desktop Entry]
Name=YAAC
Comment=YAAC APRS
Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/pstree32.xpm
Exec=java -jar /home/pi/YAAC/YAAC.jar
Type=Application
Encoding=UTF-8
Terminal=false
Categories=None;


On Dec 16, 2020, at 3:31 PM, toy4trax@... wrote:

?Care to share with non-coders how to create the desktop shortcut?
--
Pi4 4GB


Re: Desktop shortcut for YAAC

 

Care to share with non-coders how to create the desktop shortcut?
--
Pi4 4GB


Raspbian 64bit Yaac

 

I've got a Pi4 4GB and running Raspbian.

I have YAAC up and running, but if it change the Pi settings to run 64bit, the program no longer runs.

Fully updated/upgraded.

running the command confirms 64bit os running
"uname -m"
aarch64


Re: YAAP not logging rain (revisit Sept 20 #547)

 

How exactly are you connecting the Ultimeter 2100 to the computer running YAAC? RS232 ports tend to be point-to-point, not multipoint drops. So how is the data feed being multiplexed to three different consumers?

Note that YAAC does not presently support data logger packets in the Multiple mode variation (only the single mode variation), nor does it understand WeatherText format or Complete History records. So those records would be ignored, leaving only the Complete Record format records to be processed. Peet Bros does not document the WeatherText format, so I don't know if such records would confuse YAAC's interpretation of the records it does understand. Can you capture me a one-minute sample of the data you are feeding into YAAC?

Also, to comply with APRS standards, the long-term rain values are ignored by YAAC (since it is not documented when the long term began). Instead, YAAC uses the accumulating Today's Rain Total value (assuming you have your weather station's clock set correctly and the same time zone on both the weather station and the computer running YAAC) to calculate the "last hour", "rain since midnight", and "rain over last 24 hours" values. If your weather station clock is more than half an hour different from the YAAC computer's system time, the rain numbers will likely be totally mixed up from YAAC trying to infer the effective timezone of your weather station.

Let me know the answers to these questions, and I'll see what I can do.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Fred Sanders
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 3:41 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] YAAP not logging rain (revisit Sept 20 #547)

Finally got a decent rain, but YAAP program still not recording any rain.

Program: YAAC 1.0- beta 160(27nov-2020), weather set-up: 2400 baud, WX station mode Ultimeter 500/2000 (test port active with wx input data),
Weather view - all readouts, temp's, wind, etc correct except rain indicating 0.00"

Weather station: Peet Bros. Ultimeter 2100, set for Multiple output mode. The same WX data is input to a office Weather Picture, main weather
station (WK1F-2) and YAAP (WK1F-3) program. The WK1F-2 wx station is running Winaprs 2.9.0 on a separate computer.

Computer operating sys: Windows 10 V:2004(OS build 19041.685)

Observations: WX station (WK1F-2), Inter-net Find-u, and Weather picture in my office, all agree with Peet Bros ULtimeter-2100. The YAAP WX station,
WK1F-3, readings are correct except the rain reading remains 0.00" with a current rain fall of 0.92" over the last 3-hours.

Any thoughts on this?

Fred, WK1F


Re: Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

 

I've captured some output with the KPC3+ in command mode with monitor on.? I've pasted *some* of it below but I've attached a much larger capture as a txt file.? This was captured with PuTTY and pasted into notepad on Windows.

That would be great if you make this fly!

Mahalo,
Mitch


KANTRONICS KPC3PMX VERSION 9.1
(C) COPYRIGHT 2002-2005 BY KANTRONICS INC.? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.
DUPLICATION PROHIBITED WITHOUT PERMISSION OF KANTRONICS.
cmd:KH6HHG-9>R0UPXW,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`T/{n@Fk/'"8w}|!'&''X|!w!&!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPXW,NH7C-5,WIDE1,KH6MP-1,WIDE2*: <UI>:
`T/{n@Fk/'"8w}|!'&''X|!w!&!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPWR,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`T0n5Tk/'"8{}|!)&&'X|!wxF!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPWR,NH7C-5,WIDE1,KH6MP-1,WIDE2*: <UI>:
`T0n5Tk/'"8{}|!)&&'X|!wxF!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPVR,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`T/wn@k/'"8w}MT-RTG|!*&$'Y|!w^k!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPVR,NH7C-5,WIDE1,KH6MP-1,WIDE2*: <UI>:
`T/wn@k/'"8w}MT-RTG|!*&$'Y|!w^k!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPVP,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`T/zn6Yk/'"8u}|!+&%'Y|!wqH!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPVP,NH7C-5,WIDE1,KH6MP-1,WIDE2*: <UI>:
`T/zn6Yk/'"8u}|!+&%'Y|!wqH!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPUX,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`T0#n@*k/'"9'}|!,&"'Y|!wR+!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPUX,NH7C-5,WIDE1,KH6MP-1,WIDE2*: <UI>:
`T0#n@*k/'"9'}|!,&"'Y|!wR+!|3
KH7O-3>APFII0,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
@200644h2117.52N/15748.13W[/A=000143aprs.fi for iOS!w/h!
KH7O-3>APFII0,KH6MP-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
@200644h2117.52N/15748.13W[/A=000143aprs.fi for iOS!w/h!
KH7O-3>APFII0,KH6MP-1,WIDE1,NH7C-5,WIDE2*: <<UI>>:
@200644h2117.52N/15748.13W[/A=000143aprs.fi for iOS!w/h!
NH6ZS-9>APDR14,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
=212335.41N/1580016.82Ek Aloha! Be Safe, Stay Healthy!
NH6ZS-9>APDR14,KH6MP-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
=212335.41N/1580016.82Ek Aloha! Be Safe, Stay Healthy!
KH6HHG-9>R0UPTS,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`T09m|Uk/'"8z}|!-&"'[|!wCT!|3
KH6HHG-9>R0UPTS,NH7C-5,WIDE1,KH6MP-1,WIDE2*: <UI>:
`T09m|Uk/'"8z}|!-&"'[|!wCT!|3
AH6GR-12>APN383,NH7C-5*,WIDE3-2: <UI>:
!2055.33NN15641.69W#PHG6440
?
AH6GR-12>APN383,NH7C-5,KH6MP-1*,WIDE3-1: <UI>:
!2055.33NN15641.69W#PHG6440
?
WH6ECG>APWW11,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
@200845h2125.39N/15748.92WyPHG3544Windward simplex 146.505
WH6ECG>APWW11,KH6MP-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
@200845h2125.39N/15748.92WyPHG3544Windward simplex 146.505
WH6ECG>APWW11,KH6MP-1,WIDE1,NH7C-5,WIDE2*: <<UI>>:
@200845h2125.39N/15748.92WyPHG3544Windward simplex 146.505
KH6DH-13>APTT4,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
_12181011c359s000g000t078r000p000P004h..b.....TU2k
KH6DH-13>APTT4,KH6MP-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
_12181011c359s000g000t078r000p000P004h..b.....TU2k
KH6DH-13>APTT4,KH6MP-1,WIDE1,NH7C-5,WIDE2*: <UI>:
_12181011c359s000g000t078r000p000P004h..b.....TU2k
WH6ECG>APWW11,WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
>BL11ck/y experimenting with APRSIS32
WH6ECG>APWW11,KH6MP-1,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <<UI>>:
>BL11ck/y experimenting with APRSIS32
WH6ECG>APWW11,KH6MP-1,WIDE1,NH7C-5,WIDE2*: <<UI>>:
>BL11ck/y experimenting with APRSIS32
WH6ECG>APWW11,KH7O,WIDE1,NH7C-5,WIDE2*: <<UI>>:
>BL11ck/y experimenting with APRSIS32
KH6L-5>1Y4YQX,NH7C-5,WIDE1*,WIDE2-1: <UI>:
`SAWl!$//'R|"0%h'\%c||3
?


YAAP not logging rain (revisit Sept 20 #547)

 

Finally got a decent rain, but YAAP program still not recording any rain.

Program:? YAAC 1.0- beta 160(27nov-2020), weather set-up: 2400 baud, WX station mode Ultimeter 500/2000 (test port active with wx input data),
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Weather view - all readouts, temp's, wind, etc? correct except rain indicating? 0.00"

Weather station:? Peet Bros. Ultimeter 2100, set for Multiple output mode. The same WX data is input to a office Weather Picture,?main weather
station (WK1F-2) and YAAP (WK1F-3) program. The WK1F-2 wx? station is running Winaprs 2.9.0 on a separate computer. ?

Computer operating sys: Windows 10 V:2004(OS build 19041.685)

Observations:? WX station (WK1F-2), Inter-net Find-u, and Weather picture in my office, all agree with Peet Bros ULtimeter-2100. The YAAP WX station,
WK1F-3, readings are correct except the rain reading remains 0.00" with a current rain fall of 0.92" over the last 3-hours.

Any thoughts on this?

Fred, WK1F


Re: Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

 

Oh, your KPC3+ doesn't provide TNC2-compatible format (the same format that the APRS-IS servers provide)? In that case, can you capture some of the output from the KPC3+ with a terminal program and paste it into a reply email? Then I can see what changes I would have to make to support their different format.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of kh6mp@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 3:35 AM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

Thanks for the suggestion Andrew but I tried the Kenwood port mode and YAAC is not able to decode the message body of the packets.

When I view the raw packets, they show up in pink color- it shows the source and destination correctly, but for the body of the message it shows only "UI:...." instead of the position.

Any other suggestions?


Re: Moving Object

 

Is it your object, or originally somebody else's object? There is an obscure bug for your own objects if (and only if) you never receive a digipeater echo of your transmissions, where it doesn't identify the object. If it can't find any existing position report to convert into a modified object report, it doesn't proceed.

If YAAC finds a match, you will find the icon of the matched object stuck to your mouse pointer until you either click somewhere (which will be the new object position) or press the ESC key on your keyboard to cancel the move.

I will be fixing the obscure bug in the next build.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of rhclinton
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Moving Object

YAAC's function of creating an object by clicking on the map is excellent. Once I have created an object I am able to delete or update it. However there is also an option on the right-click menu called Move Object. This implies there is a way to relocate the object using the mouse, but I have been unable to to get it to work. What am I overlooking?

Bob Clinton G0BUX/W0BUX


Moving Object

 

YAAC's function of creating an object by clicking on the map is excellent.? Once I have created an object I am able to delete or update it.? However there is also an option on the right-click menu called Move Object.? This implies there is a way to relocate the object using the mouse, but I have been unable to to get it to work.? What am I overlooking?

Bob Clinton? G0BUX/W0BUX


Re: Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

 

Thanks for the suggestion Andrew but I tried the Kenwood port mode and YAAC is not able to decode the message body of the packets.

When I view the raw packets, they show up in pink color- it shows the source and destination correctly, but for the body of the message it shows only "UI:...." instead of the position.

Any other suggestions?


Re: YAAC on a Pi0

 

That was the case re the GUI. However I am running the latest version of Pi OS (the most recent release this December) and the GUI works fine on a pi 0.?


Re: YAAC on a Pi0

 

Yes, I believe that is the case. I contacted you about it many moons ago. No matter. It¡¯s working and I am thankful for the program.?

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Re: Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

 

You could try using the Kenwood port type in YAAC, which is designed to work with the receive-only command-mode-like serial port behavior on the Kenwood TM-D710/TH-D72 in APRS (not raw packet) mode. Since you're not planning on transmitting to RF from YAAC via the KPC3+, the inability to do so in the Kenwood port driver shouldn't be a problem.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of kh6mp@... <kh6mp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 3:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

Hello, I just got YAAC up and running hooked up to my long time APRS digipeater which uses a KPC3+ TNC.

My goal is to retain the very reliable, native functionality of digipeat and beacon in the KPC3+ while having YAAC monitor the TNC serial port and report positions to the APRS-IS network.

I've already configured the TNC and APRS-IS ports in YAAC and have successfully uploaded received RF reports to the APRS-IS network- this works fine when the YAAC port is configured for the KPC3 KISS mode. However, I'm looking to be able to monitor the TNC traffic while leaving it in command mode because built-in digipeat and beacon is non-functional in KISS mode.

Before you say I should just configure YAAC to digipeat and beacon- my goal is for my digipeater to retain its pre-YAAC functionality so if the PC or software crashes, everything else stays functional.

Is there any way to configure (or fool) YAAC into taking RF reports from my KPC3+ in command mode?

Thanks for any light you guys can shed on this.


Monitoring KPC3+ in Command Mode instead of KISS?

 

Hello, I just got YAAC up and running hooked up to my long time APRS digipeater which uses a KPC3+ TNC.

My goal is to retain the very reliable, native functionality of digipeat and beacon in the KPC3+ while having YAAC monitor the TNC serial port and report positions to the APRS-IS network.

I've already configured the TNC and APRS-IS ports in YAAC and have successfully uploaded received RF reports to the APRS-IS network- this works fine when the YAAC port is configured for the KPC3 KISS mode.? However, I'm looking to be able to monitor the TNC traffic while leaving it in command mode because built-in digipeat and beacon is non-functional in KISS mode.

Before you say I should just configure YAAC to digipeat and beacon- my goal is for my digipeater to retain its pre-YAAC functionality so if the PC or software crashes, everything else stays functional.

Is there any way to configure (or fool) YAAC into taking RF reports from my KPC3+ in command mode?

Thanks for any light you guys can shed on this.


Re: YAAC on a Pi0

 

We are thinking of running YAAC on a RPi0 for a portable digipeater. ?What image from raspian are you running? ?I though you could not run the GUI.?

Tim
KM4ESU


Re: YAAC on a Pi0

 

I didn't do anything. Maybe they fixed the Java package in the repo so it would work on the Pi Zero's processor, as that was the problem you were having before.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of daniel boggiano via groups.io <dboggny@...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] YAAC on a Pi0

So YAAC works again on a pi0 after about a year of not working and having worked previously. Whatever you did, thanks.

danny