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Re: Map edits for OSM

 

Ah, so it was data error (hopefully not vandalism) in the OSM database that caused the problem. I probably won't be able to pick up the change for another week, as it takes a few days for the database export and post of the snapshot file to happen; since they released the latest weekly snapshot 4 days ago, the earliest I would be able to see the change would be next week, and then I have to run it through the YAAC import process and post it to my web server.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric H. Christensen via groups.io <wg3k@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 6:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Map edits for OSM

I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.

73,
Eric WG3K
FM18rp
Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM
E-Mail: wg3k@...


On Tuesday, July 30th, 2024 at 17:28, Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...> wrote:

Lake Anna Virginia. 38 03.N 77 48.W
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA USA
Re: Map edits for OSM

 

There are lots of errors and missing data in Bulloch County, GA

What's the best way to submit corrections, please?

On 7/30/24 18:28, Eric H. Christensen via groups.io wrote:
I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.

73,
Eric WG3K
FM18rp
Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM
E-Mail: wg3k@...
Re: Map edits for OSM

 

I just updated Lake Anna to be natural=water and water=reservoir. The ways were also all out of whack in the multipolygon but those have been remedied as well. Hopefully this fixes the issue.

73,
Eric WG3K
FM18rp
Packet: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM
E-Mail: wg3k@...

On Tuesday, July 30th, 2024 at 17:28, Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...> wrote:

Lake Anna Virginia.? ?38 03.N? 77 48.W
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
Re: Map edits for OSM

 

Lake Anna Virginia.? ?38 03.N? 77 48.W
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
?
Re: Map edits for OSM

 

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Yes, please, what lake is it and where is it? There are enough issues in YAAC map rendering between data decoding and OSM database vandalism that I need a bit more information to help you

Andrew, KA2DDO

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric H. Christensen via groups.io <wg3k@...>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 2:51:53 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Map edits for OSM

What lake is it?

73,
Eric WG3K
FM18rpPacket: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM
E-Mail: wg3k@...

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-------- Original Message --------
On 7/29/24 14:49, Mark wrote:
I have been trying to find out why a major lake in my area does not appear on the maps in YAAC.? Finally found it by zooming in to 0.5 km scale and discovered it is an 'amenity' because it is associated with the power plant.? On OSMs website it appears as a lake and at the reasonable scales..not apparently tagged to the power plant that I can tell.
? ?How can I change the scale at which the lake appears (ie higher scales) without having every amenity in the area appear as well?
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
?

author of YAAC
Re: Map edits for OSM

 

What lake is it?

73,
Eric WG3K
FM18rpPacket: WG3K@WG3K.#SMD.MD.USA.NOAM
E-Mail: wg3k@...

Sent from Proton Mail Android



-------- Original Message --------
On 7/29/24 14:49, Mark wrote:
I have been trying to find out why a major lake in my area does not appear on the maps in YAAC.? Finally found it by zooming in to 0.5 km scale and discovered it is an 'amenity' because it is associated with the power plant.? On OSMs website it appears as a lake and at the reasonable scales..not apparently tagged to the power plant that I can tell.
? ?How can I change the scale at which the lake appears (ie higher scales) without having every amenity in the area appear as well?
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
?
Map edits for OSM

 

I have been trying to find out why a major lake in my area does not appear on the maps in YAAC.? Finally found it by zooming in to 0.5 km scale and discovered it is an 'amenity' because it is associated with the power plant.? On OSMs website it appears as a lake and at the reasonable scales..not apparently tagged to the power plant that I can tell.
? ?How can I change the scale at which the lake appears (ie higher scales) without having every amenity in the area appear as well?
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
?
Re: Station/Object List for Heard Stations

 

I got this working pretty well yesterday using excel on the csv file.? In our area many of the repeater, digipeater, winlink, and DSTAR stations also beacon on APRS.? I want to create an offline map of the persistent stations that are useful for ARES purposes for a situational awareness/planning aid that I can load at-will rather than have to monitor for an hour or more waiting for them to beacon (and getting lots of other junk besides).? I also add local facilities from another POS file I have had for a while.
?
I was able to create a spreadsheet that I can paste the station/objects table data into and then use a 'formula' to create the formatted object strings I want, filter on the deired station types, which I can then put in a POS file and cleanup if needed for added details.
?
Still testing as I learn the scheme for the icons,? but it seems to be working.
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
?
Re: SSL-Authentication

 

A followup:

The last APRS-IS gateway listed for ssl.aprs2.net no longer supports the SSL/TLS port, so there is no point in trying to use a SSL-APRS-IS port type with a Logbook of the World key pair.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. <andrewemt@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 6:59 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] SSL-Authentication

Greetings.

OK, you have two issues here. Let's look at Authenticated Messaging since you did that first.

Authenticated Messaging has to use symmetric (secret) keys, rather than a public/private key pair, because the signature for a private key is longer than the maximum length of an APRS text message. So the fact that you loaded your LotW key pair into the database does nothing for sending authenticated messages; the LotW key pair is only useful for SSL-APRS-IS connections. So you need to generate a symmetric key and use that for signing text messages.

As for APRS-IS over SSL, you need to use the SSL-APRS-IS port type to use your LotW key pair; the APRS-IS port type only works with the old passcode system. I can't guarantee that it will work; there aren't many APRS-IS backbone servers on the ssl.aprs2.net rotator, and some of them haven't been updated to the new ARRL certificate authority certificate, so the connection may not work because the server's certificate has expired. Also, because the SSL-APRS-IS port type tries to use the NULL encryption cipher (which doesn't actually encrypt anything, for compliance with Amateur Radio regulations if you are going over a HamNet backhaul) and all the Java runtimes have explicitly disabled that cipher as being insecure (that's the point of it), you may not be able to connect to the server either because of cipher incompatibility (unless you run an encrypted connection).

So try using the correct key type and port type, and see if it will work for you.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave GM4NFI <djcleckie@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 6:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] SSL-Authentication

Hi
YAAC seems to be working OK as an APRS beacon so I have started to get it to work as an I-Gate
First I had a good read at the Help files below.
I-Gating Tutorial for YAAC
Configuring an SSL-Authenticated APRS-IS Port
Authenticated Messaging in YAAK

I decided to use SSL-Authentication.

I have a valid LoTW callsign certificate for GM4NFI
I saved a copy of the Callsign Certificate as GM4NFI.p12 as described above.

In YAAC I go to View->Authentication Keys->Import Key
I name the key GM4NFI
Navigate to where the file GM4NFI.p12 is saved.
Filter for .p12 files
Import the Key
So far so good.

I now have a listing
Name gm4nfi
Type Private
Callsigns using this key its blank (I would think my callsign needs to be added?)

From View I can see details of my certificate(s) see below
3 valid certificates appear - all have my callsign and all have valid dates.

Not sure why I have 3 I thought it should only be one?

But when I try to Associate Callsigns the button is "greyed out" and cannot be selected.
I can't associate any callsign with the certificate.

Now if I go to File->Configure->Ports I have 2 ports

Port 1 is Enabled APRS-IS euro.aprs2.net
Port 3 is Enabled Serial_TNC /dev/ttyS5 (this is working fine)

I select Port1 all seems fine but Transmit is Disabled and greyed out.
Now if I generate a APRS-IS password from my callsign then it can be enabled.
I thought either an APRS-IS password or SSL-Authentication but not both?

From the Help
"Private/public key pairs can be used as an alternative to the insecure APRS-IS passcode to authenticate YAAC to the APRS-IS Tier 2 backbone, using the SSL-APRS-IS port type. Only key pairs used for the ARRL Logbook of the World and certified by the ARRL's Certificate Authority are acceptable."
I suspect the issue is due to not being able to associate my callsign with the key.
I can't find anything in the Help about the above.
I have now upgraded to YAAC 14 July 2024 version but Associate Callsigns button is "greyed out"

Any advice?
73
Dave
GM4NFI


Below a dump of my callsign certificate (why 3 entries?)
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=djcleckie@..., CN=David J C Leckie, OID.1.3.6.1.4.1.12348.1.1=GM4NFI
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Production CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: f62cc
Valid from: 22 July 2024, 15:00:15 BST until: 22 July 2027, 15:00:15 BST
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Production CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: a
Valid from: 29 June 2023, 16:00:19 BST until: 29 June 2027, 16:00:19 BST
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: b6dc0911164d9c51
Valid from: 28 June 2023, 13:28:35 BST until: 25 June 2033, 13:28:35 BST
Re: SSL-Authentication

 

Greetings.

OK, you have two issues here. Let's look at Authenticated Messaging since you did that first.

Authenticated Messaging has to use symmetric (secret) keys, rather than a public/private key pair, because the signature for a private key is longer than the maximum length of an APRS text message. So the fact that you loaded your LotW key pair into the database does nothing for sending authenticated messages; the LotW key pair is only useful for SSL-APRS-IS connections. So you need to generate a symmetric key and use that for signing text messages.

As for APRS-IS over SSL, you need to use the SSL-APRS-IS port type to use your LotW key pair; the APRS-IS port type only works with the old passcode system. I can't guarantee that it will work; there aren't many APRS-IS backbone servers on the ssl.aprs2.net rotator, and some of them haven't been updated to the new ARRL certificate authority certificate, so the connection may not work because the server's certificate has expired. Also, because the SSL-APRS-IS port type tries to use the NULL encryption cipher (which doesn't actually encrypt anything, for compliance with Amateur Radio regulations if you are going over a HamNet backhaul) and all the Java runtimes have explicitly disabled that cipher as being insecure (that's the point of it), you may not be able to connect to the server either because of cipher incompatibility (unless you run an encrypted connection).

So try using the correct key type and port type, and see if it will work for you.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave GM4NFI <djcleckie@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 6:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] SSL-Authentication

Hi
YAAC seems to be working OK as an APRS beacon so I have started to get it to work as an I-Gate
First I had a good read at the Help files below.
I-Gating Tutorial for YAAC
Configuring an SSL-Authenticated APRS-IS Port
Authenticated Messaging in YAAK

I decided to use SSL-Authentication.

I have a valid LoTW callsign certificate for GM4NFI
I saved a copy of the Callsign Certificate as GM4NFI.p12 as described above.

In YAAC I go to View->Authentication Keys->Import Key
I name the key GM4NFI
Navigate to where the file GM4NFI.p12 is saved.
Filter for .p12 files
Import the Key
So far so good.

I now have a listing
Name gm4nfi
Type Private
Callsigns using this key its blank (I would think my callsign needs to be added?)

From View I can see details of my certificate(s) see below
3 valid certificates appear - all have my callsign and all have valid dates.

Not sure why I have 3 I thought it should only be one?

But when I try to Associate Callsigns the button is "greyed out" and cannot be selected.
I can't associate any callsign with the certificate.

Now if I go to File->Configure->Ports I have 2 ports

Port 1 is Enabled APRS-IS euro.aprs2.net
Port 3 is Enabled Serial_TNC /dev/ttyS5 (this is working fine)

I select Port1 all seems fine but Transmit is Disabled and greyed out.
Now if I generate a APRS-IS password from my callsign then it can be enabled.
I thought either an APRS-IS password or SSL-Authentication but not both?

From the Help
"Private/public key pairs can be used as an alternative to the insecure APRS-IS passcode to authenticate YAAC to the APRS-IS Tier 2 backbone, using the SSL-APRS-IS port type. Only key pairs used for the ARRL Logbook of the World and certified by the ARRL's Certificate Authority are acceptable."
I suspect the issue is due to not being able to associate my callsign with the key.
I can't find anything in the Help about the above.
I have now upgraded to YAAC 14 July 2024 version but Associate Callsigns button is "greyed out"

Any advice?
73
Dave
GM4NFI


Below a dump of my callsign certificate (why 3 entries?)
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=djcleckie@..., CN=David J C Leckie, OID.1.3.6.1.4.1.12348.1.1=GM4NFI
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Production CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: f62cc
Valid from: 22 July 2024, 15:00:15 BST until: 22 July 2027, 15:00:15 BST
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Production CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: a
Valid from: 29 June 2023, 16:00:19 BST until: 29 June 2027, 16:00:19 BST
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: b6dc0911164d9c51
Valid from: 28 June 2023, 13:28:35 BST until: 25 June 2033, 13:28:35 BST
SSL-Authentication

 

Hi
YAAC seems to be working OK as an APRS beacon so I have started to get it to work as an I-Gate
First I had a good read at the Help files below.?
I-Gating Tutorial for YAAC
Configuring an SSL-Authenticated APRS-IS Port
Authenticated Messaging in YAAK
?
I decided to use SSL-Authentication.
?
I have a valid LoTW callsign certificate for GM4NFI
I saved a copy of the Callsign Certificate as GM4NFI.p12 as described above.
?
In YAAC I go to View->Authentication Keys->Import Key
I name the key GM4NFI
Navigate to where the file GM4NFI.p12 is saved.
Filter for .p12 files
Import the Key
So far so good.
?
I now have a listing?
Name ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ????????????? gm4nfi?
Type ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??????????????????? Private
Callsigns using this key ? ? its blank? (I would think my callsign needs to be added?)
?
From View I can? see details of my certificate(s) see? below
3 valid certificates appear - all have my callsign and all have valid dates.
?
Not sure why I have 3 I thought it should only be one??
?
But when I try to Associate Callsigns the button is "greyed out" and cannot be selected.
I can't associate any callsign with the certificate.
?
Now if I go to File->Configure->Ports I have 2 ports
?
Port 1 is Enabled APRS-IS euro.aprs2.net
Port 3 is Enabled Serial_TNC /dev/ttyS5 (this is working fine)
?
I select Port1 all seems fine but Transmit is Disabled and greyed out.
Now if I generate a APRS-IS password from my callsign then it can be enabled.
I thought either an APRS-IS password or SSL-Authentication but not both?

From the Help
"Private/public key pairs can be used as an alternative to the insecure APRS-IS passcode to authenticate YAAC to the APRS-IS Tier 2 backbone, using the SSL-APRS-IS port type. Only key pairs used for the ARRL Logbook of the World and certified by the ARRL's Certificate Authority are acceptable."
I suspect the issue is due to not being able to associate my callsign with the key.
I can't find anything in the Help about the above.
I have now upgraded to YAAC 14 July 2024 version but Associate Callsigns button is "greyed out"
?
Any advice?
73
Dave
GM4NFI
?
?
Below a dump of my callsign certificate (why 3 entries?)
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=djcleckie@..., CN=David J C Leckie, OID.1.3.6.1.4.1.12348.1.1=GM4NFI
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Production CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: f62cc
Valid from: 22 July 2024, 15:00:15 BST until: 22 July 2027, 15:00:15 BST
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Production CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: a
Valid from: 29 June 2023, 16:00:19 BST until: 29 June 2027, 16:00:19 BST
Owner: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Issuer: EMAILADDRESS=lotw@..., DC=arrl.org, CN=Logbook of the World Root CA, OU=Logbook of the World, O=American Radio Relay League, L=Newington, ST=CT, C=US
Serial number: b6dc0911164d9c51
Valid from: 28 June 2023, 13:28:35 BST until: 25 June 2033, 13:28:35 BST
?
Re: Station/Object List for Heard Stations

 

That would be difficult for station reports, since they aren't APRS Object reports to begin with.

What exactly are you trying to do with files of stations?

Note that YAAC can also log all your received traffic (it always logs all your transmitted traffic for regulatory purposes), and you can choose CSV format for the log files. That will store the actual packet format, but that's the packet-by-packet data, not the summaries in the Station/Object list. Or you could do the File->Save->Table from the Raw Packets view.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2024 6:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Station/Object List for Heard Stations

Thanks Andrew. I am really trying to get it in the UI POS format..but I guess I can parse it out from the saved table. I will give that a try.
Thanks.
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA USA
Re: Station/Object List for Heard Stations

 

Thanks Andrew.? I am really trying to get it in the UI POS format..but I guess I can parse it out from the saved table.? I will give that a try.
Thanks.
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
?
Re: Station/Object List for Heard Stations

 

This is simple. Go to the view you want data from (Station/Object List, Heard Stations, etc.), and in the menu bar of that window (not the map window's menu bar), go to File -> Save. There should be a choice of Table, which means to dump that specific table window's contents to a CSV file (one row per line, with a header line identifying the columns in the remaining rows). Most tabular views have this capability.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Mark <mark.lindsey.8711@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 7:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Station/Object List for Heard Stations

I'm trying to get a file with all of the heard objects/stations, but the "Save Objects File" on the listing only saves the objects that I've loaded, not the ones that have come in over APRS-IS. Is there a way to save the incoming station/object data?

Thanks
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA USA
Station/Object List for Heard Stations

 

I'm trying to get a file with all of the heard objects/stations, but the "Save Objects File" on the listing only saves the objects that I've loaded, not the ones that have come in over APRS-IS.? Is there a way to save the incoming station/object data?
?
Thanks
--
Mark Lindsey
KD6AKC
Fauquier County, VA? ?USA
?
Re: Digipeater - YAAC or Direwolf?

 

Logistics does play a role here. First, yes, single frequency, the
normal APRS 2m channel. I have one portable APRS station, which will be
at net control. Connected to a projector and big screen, it displays all
the rest stops, SAG wagons, etc. There are even a few participants using
trackers that may be displayed. A portable mast is set up giving an
antenna at about 20 ft. There is almost no other digipeater coverage
natively to this area. We are hoping for at least one other portable
digi to become available to be located in another area to supplement
coverage. It's partly political as well. We've been trying to get
someone to put at least a digi, preferably an iGate at the repeater site
which has coverage over the entire course area, but have gained little
traction in that endeavor.

I shall start studying Direwolf digi configurations.

Thanks,
Michael WA7SKG


Andrew P. wrote on 7/24/24 11:59 AM:

Assuming you're only running a single-frequency digipeater (not cross-band), I would recommend using DireWolf as the digipeater, and check its documentation for the setup. It will be able to handle the zero-delay expected of a digipeater, and will be more responsive.

YAAC can handle digipeating probably more flexibly that DireWolf, but it doesn't have the timing control over the CSMA/CD aspects of the modem that DireWolf has that will improve RF network performance.

One important question, though: do you need the digipeater co-located with the Net Control station, or do you need it elsewhere for best coverage extension? For example, I have worked several bicycle events where the Net Control station was at the geographical end of the territory to be covered, so a digipeater there would add no value (if the digipeater there could hear it, so could Net Control); digipeaters in the middle of the territory (distant from Net Control) were far more valuable since the only APRS receive stations were Net Control.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 1:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Digipeater - YAAC or Direwolf?

We are going to use APRS for an upcoming event, so I will be setting up
a portable station at the event control center to display the APRS users
on a big screen. I also want to use that station as a digipeater, as
digi coverage in the area is poor. I've not fooled with setting up
digipeaters before, so all is new to me.

The portable station will be using either a RaspberryPi or Quadra
computer running YAAC and Direwolf modem. Is there a configuration for
YAAC to handle the digipeat function, or should that be set up in
Direwolf? Any good guides or tutorials?

Thanks


--
73,
Michael WA7SKG

"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Re: Digipeater - YAAC or Direwolf?

 

Assuming you're only running a single-frequency digipeater (not cross-band), I would recommend using DireWolf as the digipeater, and check its documentation for the setup. It will be able to handle the zero-delay expected of a digipeater, and will be more responsive.

YAAC can handle digipeating probably more flexibly that DireWolf, but it doesn't have the timing control over the CSMA/CD aspects of the modem that DireWolf has that will improve RF network performance.

One important question, though: do you need the digipeater co-located with the Net Control station, or do you need it elsewhere for best coverage extension? For example, I have worked several bicycle events where the Net Control station was at the geographical end of the territory to be covered, so a digipeater there would add no value (if the digipeater there could hear it, so could Net Control); digipeaters in the middle of the territory (distant from Net Control) were far more valuable since the only APRS receive stations were Net Control.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2024 1:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Digipeater - YAAC or Direwolf?

We are going to use APRS for an upcoming event, so I will be setting up
a portable station at the event control center to display the APRS users
on a big screen. I also want to use that station as a digipeater, as
digi coverage in the area is poor. I've not fooled with setting up
digipeaters before, so all is new to me.

The portable station will be using either a RaspberryPi or Quadra
computer running YAAC and Direwolf modem. Is there a configuration for
YAAC to handle the digipeat function, or should that be set up in
Direwolf? Any good guides or tutorials?

Thanks


--
73,
Michael WA7SKG

"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Digipeater - YAAC or Direwolf?

 

We are going to use APRS for an upcoming event, so I will be setting up
a portable station at the event control center to display the APRS users
on a big screen. I also want to use that station as a digipeater, as
digi coverage in the area is poor. I've not fooled with setting up
digipeaters before, so all is new to me.

The portable station will be using either a RaspberryPi or Quadra
computer running YAAC and Direwolf modem. Is there a configuration for
YAAC to handle the digipeat function, or should that be set up in
Direwolf? Any good guides or tutorials?

Thanks


--
73,
Michael WA7SKG

"Any day you do not learn one new thing is a wasted day."
Re: No Menu

 

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Andrew,

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Thank you, completely forgot about the “Upgrade,” worked great on my windows box.

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Jamie Hughes

WA7JH

(360) 340-8886

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andrew P.
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] No Menu

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You can try a newer version of the JDK from here:

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From:?[email protected] on behalf of T W via groups.io
Sent:?Tuesday, July 16, 2024 1:14 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [yaac-users] No Menu

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I get the bus error 10 message. I’m running an?1.8 GHz Intel Core i7.?

On 16 Jul 2024, at 12:09, Andrew P. via ?<andrewemt@...> wrote:

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Interesting indeed. It sounds like there is something wrong with your Java runtime. You may have to install another version of the Java runtime that will work with your O/S version and CPU.

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Try issuing the command

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java -version

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and see if it prints out version numbers or throws another bus error.

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Also, what processor is your Mac using? Intel, Motorola, or one of Apple's new M-series ARM chips?

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Andrew, KA2DDO

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From:?[email protected]?on behalf of T W via
Sent:?Tuesday, July 16, 2024 1:05 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [yaac-users] No Menu?

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Hi Andrew, when launched in terminal all I get is?

On 16 Jul 2024, at 11:53, Andrew P. via ?<andrewemt@...> wrote:

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Interesting. How did you launch YAAC?

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I strongly recommend you open a Terminal window and start it from the command line so you can see any error messages. The command (from the directory where you unpacked the YAAC.zip file) is Crowthorne:yaac thomashole$ java -jar YAAC.jar

Bus error: 10

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java -jar YAAC.jar

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Hope this helps. If it doesn't, capture the output in the Terminal window and email it to me privately so I can help you debug the problem.

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Andrew, KA2DDO

author of YAAC

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From:?[email protected]?on behalf of T W via
Sent:?Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:39 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?[yaac-users] No Menu?

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I hope someone her can help. I am trying to run yaac on Mac running OSX 10.11.6. All I get when I launch yaac Is a menu bar with yaac and nothing else. Could my ancient operating system be the cause?

Cheers
Tom Hole kf6kyd



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Re: No Menu

 

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Thanks Andrew, I think I’m going to have to wait for my new machine to arrive. Everything I’m doing with Java now results in exception errors.

On 16 Jul 2024, at 12:35, Andrew P. via <andrewemt@...> wrote:

You can try a newer version of the JDK from here:?


From:?[email protected]?on behalf of T W via?
Sent:?Tuesday, July 16, 2024 1:14 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [yaac-users] No Menu?

I get the bus error 10 message. I’m running an?1.8 GHz Intel Core i7.?
On 16 Jul 2024, at 12:09, Andrew P. via??<andrewemt@...> wrote:

Interesting indeed. It sounds like there is something wrong with your Java runtime. You may have to install another version of the Java runtime that will work with your O/S version and CPU.

Try issuing the command

java -version

and see if it prints out version numbers or throws another bus error.

Also, what processor is your Mac using? Intel, Motorola, or one of Apple's new M-series ARM chips?

Andrew, KA2DDO


From:?[email protected]?on behalf of T W via?
Sent:?Tuesday, July 16, 2024 1:05 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [yaac-users] No Menu?

Hi Andrew, when launched in terminal all I get is?
On 16 Jul 2024, at 11:53, Andrew P. via??<andrewemt@...> wrote:

Interesting. How did you launch YAAC?

I strongly recommend you open a Terminal window and start it from the command line so you can see any error messages. The command (from the directory where you unpacked the YAAC.zip file) is?Crowthorne:yaac thomashole$ java -jar YAAC.jar
Bus error: 10

java -jar YAAC.jar

Hope this helps. If it doesn't, capture the output in the Terminal window and email it to me privately so I can help you debug the problem.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


From:?[email protected]?on behalf of T W via?
Sent:?Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:39 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?[yaac-users] No Menu?

I hope someone her can help. I am trying to run yaac on Mac running OSX 10.11.6. All I get when I launch yaac Is a menu bar with yaac and nothing else. Could my ancient operating system be the cause?

Cheers
Tom Hole kf6kyd







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