First off, YAAC isn't using librxtx any more. Due to support issues, YAAC has switched to JSSC instead.

Secondly, if the PiGate software is running, then /dev/serial0 is locked by PiGate and therefore the device can't be used by YAAC.

As said many times before, "SERIAL DEVICES CANNOT BE SHARED!" Only one program at a time can directly use a serial port successfully. That's one of the reasons why GPSD was invented: so multiple applications could share the data coming in from a single GPS receiver, and one of the reasons why YAAC no longer uses RXTX (because RXTX used an obsolete means of locking serial device access that wasn't supported or recognized by other applications).

On the other hand, if PiGate is I-gate software, does it have a client port that YAAC could connect to with the APRS-IS port driver?

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 1:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [yaac-users] How to set up TNC-Pi9k6

I have a running PiGate RMS gateway that uses the TNC-Pi and when I checked its configuration, it uses port /dev/serial0. I verified that the TNC-PI9k6 works with PiGateRMS by plugging it in to the same system running the TNC-Pi, and it worked fine. Then I used the Pi where I want to run YAAC, and used the same SD card for PiGate RMS and it worked there, too.

When I try to use this same port on the YAAC system, it reports an exception when I try to configure port serial-TNC to use /dev/serial0.
"unable to open Serial_TNC connection /dev/serial0"
I verified that librxtx-java is installed. I tried to run
sudo usermod -G tty,lock -a pi
and get the response
usermod: group 'lock' does not exist.
So I did
sudo usermod -G tty -a pi

I also did
sudo usermod -G dialout -a pi
and that succeeded.
What else might be the problem?

Dave G8KBV,
How do I make sure the TNC-Pi9k6 is recognized by the OS?? It ran successfully when I used the SD card from PiGateRMS which was also running Buster, although a different kernel version.
When I type
$ ls /dev/serial0
I get a response
/dev/serial0

What else can I try to verify that the TNC-Pi9k6 is recognized by Pi OS?

I have a running PiGate RMS gateway that uses the TNC-Pi and when I checked its configuration, it uses port /dev/serial0.? I verified that the TNC-PI9k6 works with PiGateRMS by plugging it in to the same system running the TNC-Pi, and it worked fine.? Then I used the Pi where I want to run YAAC, and used the same SD card for PiGate RMS and it worked there, too.

When I try to use this same port on the YAAC system, it reports an exception when I try to configure port serial-TNC to use /dev/serial0.?
"unable to open Serial_TNC connection /dev/serial0"
I verified that librxtx-java is installed.? I tried to run

Make sure you have the PiGate plugged in and recognised by the OS, BEFORE starting YAAC...

(Same holds true for other "things" that appear as a serial port, and not only for YAAC.)

73.

Dave G8KBV


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funny I had this problem about a year ago and couldn’t for the life of me figure it out. I found one post on page 5 Billion of a Google search.?

im glad to learn the way to fix it on Linux though. Thanks.?

With the PiGate, it assumes the TNC-Pi or TNC-Pi9k6 so you just plug it in.? I haven't been able to dig into the software to find out.

I'm not familiar with the TNC-Pi9k6; is it an upgraded copy of the TNC-Pi? In any case, what serial port and baud rate did you use with PiGate? It should be the same.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 5:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] How to set up TNC-Pi9k6

I got a TNC-Pi9k6 from WVCARC. I tried it with PiGate and it worked so I believe the hardware is OK. Now I want to use it with YAAC. How do I configure it on s port as a TNC? I tried to use /dev/ttyAMA0 at 19200 baud which was the only port offered by YAAC when I added a serial-TNC port but that doesn't seem to work. When I click Test Port, I see nothing. What is the correct way to configure a TNC-Pi9K6 for YAAC?

I got a TNC-Pi9k6 from WVCARC.? I tried it with PiGate and it worked so I believe the hardware is OK.? Now I want to use it with YAAC.? How do I configure it on s port as a TNC?? I tried to use? /dev/ttyAMA0 at 19200 baud which was the only port offered by YAAC when I added a serial-TNC port but that doesn't seem to work.? When I click Test Port, I see nothing.? What is the correct way to configure a TNC-Pi9K6 for YAAC?

And, what does it show up as to the OS?

As seen with dmesg in Linux, or Device Mangler in Windows?

Dave G0WBX.

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The GPS, GlobalSat BU-353S4, is USB based and that is how it connects to either the Pi or to Windows.? Just plug it in.

This is not a chipset issue.? It is an issue that gpsd changes the configuration of the GPS so that it sends binary data rather than NEMA-0183 formatted data.? Windows does not understand the binary data.? I followed instructions on Spotwise as I indicated in my prior posting and that restored the GPS to sending data in NEMA-0183 format which works for both Pi and Windows.

As recommended on gpsd's website, and by Andrew KA2DDO, I added the -b switch to gpsd configuration file at?/etc/default/gpsd to prevent gpsd from reconfiguring the GPS.

With my reversing what gpsd changed, the GPS now works on both systems.

Hi, Fred.

Let's look at your problems in the order you described them.

1. What do you mean it won't indicate a fixed station? All the checkboxes on the second panel of the configuration wizard do is sort the symbol types to put the ones most like the kind of station you want to run at the top.

2. What make and model of weather station are you actually using (as opposed to what you told YAAC)? The Serial_Weather port type only understands Peet Bros weather stations, so a Davis or Oregon (or any other brand) weather station won't work. Also, are you seeing a rain readout on the weather station's console display? If you don't see rain there, it won't get to YAAC either. By the way, did you change which data format the Peet Bros weather station is using? Don't use the packet format; that only sends one short packet every 10 or 15 minutes, so you won't see much. Let the weather station send as fast as it wants; YAAC will report the data that is current when the beacon actually goes out (assuming you checked the option for "Report Weather" on your beacon settings).

What do you see when you select the menu choice View->Weather Status?

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 2:29 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Set-up problems

Am running a test fixed weather station with weather symbol and WIN10 . In setup, the "Specify Station Type" will not indicate fixed station. Any thoughts on this?

Also, the weather input is "Peet Bros Ultimeter 500/2000" but YAAC will not transmit RAIN data. My main weather station uses same weather data on WINAPRS with no problems.

Hope someone has the answers to above issues. I want to get YAAC runing correctly for my main wx station.

Thanks
Fred WK1F

Am running a test fixed weather station with weather symbol and WIN10 .? In setup, the "Specify Station Type" will not indicate fixed station.? Any thoughts on this?

Also, the weather input is "Peet Bros Ultimeter 500/2000" but YAAC will not transmit RAIN data.? My main weather station uses same weather data on WINAPRS with no problems.??

Hope someone has the answers to above issues.? I want to get YAAC runing correctly for my main wx station.

Thanks
Fred WK1F

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What/how connects the GPS to each 'computer', in detail please.? (Especially if different hardware is used!)

If a USB/Serial dongle, what is the chipset it is based on?

Windows Device Manager may tell you that (and other stuff.)

On Linux, run? dmesg -wH? in a command line terminal, and then connect the adapter, and among other things, the chipset will be shown, such as...

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[Sep20 19:50] usb 1-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 8 using dwc_otg
[? +0.099995] usb 1-1.2: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[? +0.273305] usb 1-1.2: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=ff00, bcdDevice= 4.00
[? +0.000036] usb 1-1.2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[? +0.000021] usb 1-1.2: Product: AMC232USB01 Serial to USB Adaptor
[? +0.000021] usb 1-1.2: Manufacturer: FTDI
[? +0.000020] usb 1-1.2: SerialNumber: FT2SSW5V
[? +0.189251] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[? +0.000170] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for generic
[? +0.034924] usbcore: registered new interface driver ftdi_sio
[? +0.000190] usbserial: USB Serial support registered for FTDI USB Serial Device
[? +0.000610] ftdi_sio 1-1.2:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[? +0.000397] usb 1-1.2: Detected FT232BM
[? +0.048550] usb 1-1.2: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to ttyUSB0

My emphasis...

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The above is shown on a Ras'Pi, when an old (but genuine) FTDI based adapter is connected.

This is so old, that though it works well with XP.? On Win7 and later no drivers support it (without a lot of device descriptor file hacking) but it works very well with Linux.

If you see "Prolific" or similar, you could have a counterfeit or old version device that Windows will never support.? (As flagged perhaps with a warning triangle in Device Managers device listings.)

Do NOT rollback Windows Updates to accommodate an old driver.?? Many have security issues, as do old versions of even Windows 10.

There are gazillions of fake (and cheap) devices out there, that are actually microcontrollers programmed to emulate the desired device*.? Nice trick, but in effect the creators of such, are stealing other peoples software and code, especially the drivers needed by OS's such as Windows.

(* I personally, have seen chip's marked as FTDI, that behaved and worked as Prolific devices!? Obvious fakes...)

Other than that, just how are you trying to "test" the GPS, with what software?? Tried a Terminal program?? That is the simplest.

??? (One of the best for Windows, but a bit daunting at first sight!.)

Or CuteCom for Linux (GUI).?? Unless you are used to minicom on the command line!? (Either need installing on the Pi)

more info is needed please.

Dave G8KBV

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Thanks to Andrew, I learned:

"Probably because gpsmon on the Pi works with the gpsd daemon, which will switch an identified GPS model to the model-specific binary mode instead of the NEMA-0183 ASCII sentence format. And YAAC only understands NEMA-0183 format (and gpsd's JSON format). So once gpsd on the Pi switched the BU-354S4 GPS to proprietary binary mode, there was no way for YAAC on Windows to understand it.

I have YAAC running on Raspberry Pi with a BU-353S4 GPS USB receiver.? I can run "$ gpsmon" and see the GPS results.? YAAC shows my location when I select View > GPS Status.

I am trying to also run YAAC on Windows 10.? I have everything but the GPS working.? When I plug in the GPS, I can identify it as COM4.? When I click Test Port, I get no valid display on any Baud Rate.

Any ideas why the GPS works fine on Raspberry Pi OS but not on Windows?
Is there something wrong with my GPS that would cause it to work for Linux but not for Windows?
What GPS can I get that will work on both Linux and Windows?

I should clarify.? My first attempt as I discussed in #540 was using Message > Send Email which goes through Winlink and did not work for me.? My second attempt which I discussed in #541 was using Message > Station and Recipient Callsign of EMAIL which as I understand it goes through APRS Email, and did work for me.

I just tried to send an email using Message > Station and using the Recipient Callsign of EMAIL.? My message text was "(my@email) text of message"? That worked fine.

I just upgraded YAAC to release 157 and tried to send an email.? The first times I tried, I got messages "invalid login challenge response"? See attachment APRSemail2.png.? I then restarted YAAC and re entered my Winlink password, but this time I got no error message, and also no email was sent.? At least, I didn't receive the email in my gmail account where I sent it.? See attachment APRSemail3.png for the message window.

I found this on the Internet:??.
Maybe you will find it helpful.? I didn't really understand it.

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