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Re: YAAC download link fails

 

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As a further note, you can also download YAAC from SourceForge. The only thing you can't get from SourceForge that you can get from my personal web server is the pre-processed OpenStreetMap data.


Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2025 8:50:35 PM

The problem is that I am currently upgrading the server, so it will probably be down for a few hours until the major release upgrade of the operating system finishes.

I'll send out an announcement when the server is back up.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon Adams via groups.io <n7uv.jon@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2025 8:20:46 PM

Hi Andrew -
?
I was attempting to download the yaac zip file (from ) to my w11 pc and keep getting this error:
?
"

This site can’t be reached

Check if there is a typo in?www.ka2ddo.org.

?

  • If spelling is correct,?try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
"
?
--
Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV



Re: YAAC download link fails

 

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The problem is that I am currently upgrading the server, so it will probably be down for a few hours until the major release upgrade of the operating system finishes.

I'll send out an announcement when the server is back up.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jon Adams via groups.io <n7uv.jon@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2025 8:20:46 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [yaac-users] YAAC download link fails

Hi Andrew -
?
I was attempting to download the yaac zip file (from ) to my w11 pc and keep getting this error:
?
"

This site can’t be reached

Check if there is a typo in?www.ka2ddo.org.

?

  • If spelling is correct,?try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
"
?
--
Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV


YAAC download link fails

 

Hi Andrew -
?
I was attempting to download the yaac zip file (from ) to my w11 pc and keep getting this error:
?
"

This site can’t be reached

Check if there is a typo in?www.ka2ddo.org.

?

  • If spelling is correct,?try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
"
?
--
Cheers and 73 - Jon N7UV


Re: Newbie to group and YAAC-1.0-beta202

 

Andrew i truly appreciate all this info. it helped. but i was. chatting with Pete. ae5pl. and. i need. an aprs-is. account username and password for yaac. ? ?can you help me with that?


Re: Newbie to group and YAAC-1.0-beta202

 

Greetings, and welcome to the APRS party.

Let's clarify some terminology here.

"messages" in APRS are a specific type of packet, equivalent to cellphone SMS text messaging. So you will not see anything on YAAC's "Messages" displays unless someone sends an APRS text message addressed to you (or you have the box checked to display all received text messages regardless of addressee), or you send one to them and they acknowledge the message. Position reports (beacons) only show up on the Raw Packets table (or the History for a single station).

To send a text message in YAAC, you either fill in the fields at the bottom of the map window and click SEND, or right-click on a station and select Send Message (which brings up a similar form with the addressee field already filled in with the selected station). On HF, you do _not_ want to specify a digipeat path, as HF APRS packets can travel hundreds of miles in all directions.

Regarding knowing if your I-gate connection is up:

Those little colored buttons above the map labeled "GPS", "IP", and "RF" correspond to the different ports you have configured in YAAC. "GPS" is GPS input, "IP" is an I-gate connection to an APRS-IS backbone server, and "RF" is a port to a hardware or software (like Direwolf) TNC. Black backgrounds on the button indicate the port is open, but no traffic is currently going through it. Green buttons are actively receiving something (inbound to YAAC) at that moment, and red buttons are actively transmitting (outbound from YAAC). Orange buttons have a problem; gray buttons have failed for some reason (you will usually get a popup dialog window reporting the reason if the failure isn't because you deliberately chose to disable [close] the port).

Note you will not be able to transmit to the APRS-IS through an I-gate port unless you have provided your correct APRS-IS server passcode corresponding to the callsign you are specifying on the port. Also, you won't be able to transmit through _any_ port if you have disabled transmitting on that port; that is the default for all ports, to protect unlicensed beginners from getting in trouble, by requiring the user to explicitly turn on transmit capability (and also specify a callsign-SSID for the port).

Also, note that you cannot use the aprs.fi website to confirm your I-gate port is sending to the backbone, as the APRS-IS backbone automatically suppresses duplicate packets, and YAAC is a comparatively slow I-gate, so it is unlikely to get there first _unless_ it is the _only_ I-gate to hear a particular RF station transmission.

Furthermore, just because Direwolf is running and receiving packets does not mean that YAAC is connected to it. You will need to open an AGWPE or KISS-over-TCP port to Direwolf to take advantage of it from YAAC. I assume you have done this, since you report seeing packets in the Raw Packets view, though those packets could be coming from the I-gate (APRS-IS) port.

Now, it's very strange that you would have 3 open GPS ports (unless you were using a remote GPS as some amateur rocketry people do with their mobile recovery stations); one GPS port is normally sufficient, and then only if you actually _have_ a GPS connected to the YAAC computer. You should see a green GPS button, as the GPS receiver generally sends as many NMEA-0183 sentences as it can fit into its configured serial port baud rate.

Similarly, you don't need to connect to Direwolf using both an AGWPE port and a KISS-over-TCP port; you'll get the same information both ways. Pick one and use that.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Niece KA1ULN via groups.io <ka1uln1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 4:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Newbie to group and YAAC-1.0-beta202

i am using direwolf and YAAC on HF aprs.
the goal is to get aprs and be able to send messages.

I really like YAAC.. it was easy to get started, but now i know it can do a lot more.

I have ICOM HF rig and i see a lot of activity on 14.102.3 and 10.147.6
only on the map., radio view and RAW packet sniffer.
the I have GPS IP GPS GPS RF and green light all lite. but i don't see messages.

how do i know if Igate is running? on direwolf AGW and KISS TCP are both open on port.

What am i missing?

thanx so much


Re: Connecting YAAC to a Kenwood D74

 

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Thank you Jason I appreciate the help. I knew it was a simple thing but….

73
Keith, WA0?TJT
Author:?https://net-control.us
ARRL Life Member & VE
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO
KCHEART Radio?Operator - St.?Lukes Barry Road?Hospital

On Jan 22, 2025, at 6:32?AM, km4ack via groups.io <jason.oleham@...> wrote:

The KISS12 he mentioned is a setting on the radio. Pressing the [F] key followed by 5 on the radio will move it between APRS/KISS/OFF
?
Also, verify the KISS output is set correctly (Menu 983)
?
73, de KM4ACK


Re: YAAC over IP not showing on map at aprs.is

 

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I'm not sure if your beacon is correctly configured. Do you indeed have a GPS receiver connected to your YAAC system with a Serial_GPS or GPSD port to bring the GPS data into YAAC? YAAC will not send GPS-based position reports unless it is receiving valid GPS positions from its local GPS.

If someone else is sending your beacons, then aprs.fi would display that beacon's comment, or the historical last non-empty beacon comment.

Regarding status messages, they are on the next tab after the Beacon tab in the expert-mode Configuration dialog.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of SV?SGS via groups.io <sv0sgs@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2025 11:40:58 AM

Thank you for your quick reply.? I am a little confused.? I think I have the beacon configured correctly.? See pic.? I also changed the text for the beacon.? I seem to be getting position reports of my own station now.? See next pic.? However, the text msg is not updated.? It keeps showing you www address.? What am I doing wrong?? Also, how do I send a status msg?
?


Re: YAAC over IP not showing on map at aprs.is

 

Thank you for your quick reply.? I am a little confused.? I think I have the beacon configured correctly.? See pic.? I also changed the text for the beacon.? I seem to be getting position reports of my own station now.? See next pic.? However, the text msg is not updated.? It keeps showing you www address.? What am I doing wrong?? Also, how do I send a status msg?
?


Re: Connecting YAAC to a Kenwood D74

 

The KISS12 he mentioned is a setting on the radio. Pressing the [F] key followed by 5 on the radio will move it between APRS/KISS/OFF
?
Also, verify the KISS output is set correctly (Menu 983)
?
73, de KM4ACK


Re: Connecting YAAC to a Kenwood D74

 

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Hi Mark,
Thanks for this. I can’t find everything however. For example the Interface menu doesn’t have either a TNC or KISS12 so I’m misunderstanding something there. Here is how I set up YAAC, does this look good to you?

Thanks again.

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Keith, WA0?TJT
Author:?https://net-control.us
ARRL Life Member & VE
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO
KCHEART Radio?Operator - St.?Lukes Barry Road?Hospital

On Jan 21, 2025, at 8:41?PM, Mark C via groups.io <k6ef@...> wrote:

Hi Keith,?

You can easily do this by setting the radio’s TNC (KISS12) in the interface menu..?

In YACC, you add the device via SERIAL_TNC, mine shows up as??/dev/cu.usbmodem13401

Then I have 9600, transmit enabled, and use the TNC2 command… ?

Give that a shot!

73 de K6EF

On Jan 21, 2025, at 5:27?PM, Keith Kaiser via groups.io <wa0tjt@...> wrote:

I want to use my Kenwood D74 as the source of APRS and as the transmitter to APRS.

I have the needed cable to connect my D74 to my M2 MacBook Air, but I’m not sure what the settings on th D74 should be.?

Has someone got a nice easy to follow list of what to do, pease send it along.?

Keith, WA0?TJT
Author:?https://net-control.us
ARRL Life Member & VE
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO
KCHEART Radio?Operator - St.?Lukes Barry Road?Hospital




Re: Connecting YAAC to a Kenwood D74

 

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Hi Keith,?

You can easily do this by setting the radio’s TNC (KISS12) in the interface menu..?

In YACC, you add the device via SERIAL_TNC, mine shows up as??/dev/cu.usbmodem13401

Then I have 9600, transmit enabled, and use the TNC2 command… ?

Give that a shot!

73 de K6EF

On Jan 21, 2025, at 5:27?PM, Keith Kaiser via groups.io <wa0tjt@...> wrote:

I want to use my Kenwood D74 as the source of APRS and as the transmitter to APRS.

I have the needed cable to connect my D74 to my M2 MacBook Air, but I’m not sure what the settings on th D74 should be.?

Has someone got a nice easy to follow list of what to do, pease send it along.?

Keith, WA0?TJT
Author:?https://net-control.us
ARRL Life Member & VE
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO
KCHEART Radio?Operator - St.?Lukes Barry Road?Hospital



Connecting YAAC to a Kenwood D74

 

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I want to use my Kenwood D74 as the source of APRS and as the transmitter to APRS.

I have the needed cable to connect my D74 to my M2 MacBook Air, but I’m not sure what the settings on th D74 should be.?

Has someone got a nice easy to follow list of what to do, pease send it along.?

Keith, WA0?TJT
Author:?https://net-control.us
ARRL Life Member & VE
ARRL ARES?Communicator?Level 2, AEC for?Platte Co. MO
KCHEART Radio?Operator - St.?Lukes Barry Road?Hospital


Re: Displaying NWS messages and lightning strikes

 

These types of messages only come from the APRS-IS backbone, and are not sent normally but only when explicitly added by filtering the APRS-IS data stream.

You can obtain them by either:

1. identifying the US NWS field office covering your area and using a buddy filter for their office prefix. For example, my area is covered by the Mount Holly, New Jersey, office (also called PHL for Philadelphia), so I would specify

b/PHL*

2. using a geographical range filter ( r/ or m/ ) or area filter ( a/ ) around your location, which would cause _all_ traffic in the specified region to to be forwarded to your station, including NWS weather events inside that region.

Note that if you want to see the NWS multiline outlines of storm areas, you will need to enable showing multilines on the map with the View->Layers->Show NWS Multilines choice.

If you wish to see NWS severe weather zones, you will need to download the weather zone boundary files from the NWS website and put them in your configured map tile directory. This is documented in YAAC's built-in help.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of T W via groups.io <kf6kyd@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2025 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Displaying NWS messages and lightning strikes

Is there any way to display NWS weather alerts and lightning strikes on the map? I was able to do it in APRSIS but I can't figure it out with YAAC.


Newbie to group and YAAC-1.0-beta202

 

i am using? direwolf and? YAAC on HF aprs.
the? goal is to get? ?aprs? and? be? able to send messages.
?
I really? like? ?YAAC.. it? was? easy to get? started, but now? i know it can do a lot more.
?
I have? ICOM? HF? rig and? i see? a? lot of? activity on 14.102.3? and? 10.147.6
only on the? map., radio view and? ?RAW packet? sniffer.
the I have? ?GPS? ?IP GPS GPS? RF and? ?green light? all lite.? but i don't? see messages.
?
how? do i know if? Igate? is? running?? on direwolf? ?AGW and KISS TCP are? both open on port.
?
What am i missing?
?
thanx so? much
?


Displaying NWS messages and lightning strikes

 

Is there any way to display NWS weather alerts and lightning strikes on the map? I was able to do it in APRSIS but I can't figure it out with YAAC.


Re: Map zooming out

 

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That did the trick! Thank you!

On Jan 20, 2025, at 18:21, Andrew P. via groups.io <andrewemt@...> wrote:

Greetings.

Per chance, did you _drag_ the mouse (move it with a button pressed)? Or did you brush the mouse wheel when you moved it?

The map uses the mouse wheel as a (ridiculously sensitive) alternate zoom control. If you don't like that, you can go to the expert-mode Configuration dialog and disable this feature; look on the Behavior tab.

Similar issues can occur if two fingers simultaneously touch a mousepad or touch screen.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of T W via groups.io <kf6kyd@...>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2025 5:32:44 PM

Every time I move my mouse the map zooms out. It also happens when I try to look at a weather object. Is there something I can do to fix this?



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Re: Map zooming out

 

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Greetings.

Per chance, did you _drag_ the mouse (move it with a button pressed)? Or did you brush the mouse wheel when you moved it?

The map uses the mouse wheel as a (ridiculously sensitive) alternate zoom control. If you don't like that, you can go to the expert-mode Configuration dialog and disable this feature; look on the Behavior tab.

Similar issues can occur if two fingers simultaneously touch a mousepad or touch screen.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of T W via groups.io <kf6kyd@...>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2025 5:32:44 PM

Every time I move my mouse the map zooms out. It also happens when I try to look at a weather object. Is there something I can do to fix this?



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Every time I move my mouse the map zooms out. It also happens when I try to look at a weather object. Is there something I can do to fix this?



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Re: Resend of earlier query:

 

Russ - Thanks for the added clarification on CWOP.? I was certain it was for hams initially,
and I understand the addition of non-ham submitters to CWOP would cause problems
if their weather data was propagated by ham digipeaters.

Yours and Andrew's replies to my query makes the subject crystal clear.

Tnx and 73
Jerry

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 4:06?PM Russ Chadwick via <russ4cwop=[email protected]> wrote:
The CWOP network was originally named APRSWXNET when it was formed in Sept 2000.? The purpose was to provide amateur radio operators a way to send their real-time weather data to NOAA.? This effort was successful and soon non-hams became interested and the network was renamed CWOP (Citizen Weather Observer Program) and a way for non-hams to send in weather data was provided.? It was?recommended that the :@ packet format be used to send weather data to CWOP.? You can see the previous ten days of traffic from CWOP members using the :@ packet format here:


and the traffic from hams using the :@ packet format?here,


Note that many hams send their weather data to CWOP servers.? Also, many hams use different?packet formats to send in their weather data and you can see them here (note that hams here also send data to CWOP servers):


Other received (supposedly erroneous) packets are here,


More information about CWOP traffic from hams and non-hams is here,


and information about?the CWOP solar radiation data base here,


All the CWOP weather data flows directly from the CWOP and APRS core servers to NCEP (National Center for Environmental Prediction).

Russ
KB0TVJ



On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 12:16?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
Bear in mind that the CWOP network is for weather stations _without_ amateur radio licenses, so they will not be forwarded to the regular APRS-IS network (which could be re-transmitted to RF by transmit-capable I-gates). Note that (which is _not_ the APRS-IS backbone, but merely a client of the backbone) is also a client of the CWOP network and several other non-amateur-radio networks (such as the marine AIS network), which is why can display CWOP stations.

So this is fully expected behavior if your YAAC instance is connected to the amateur-radio APRS-IS backbone but your weather station isn't.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Rector - K4OAM via <kb4oam=[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Resend of earlier query:

Having received no reply to my earlier message, I now am
editting and reposting it:



I use a weather packet server path of <> to send
out weather information packets from my QTH.

My K4OAM-13 station shows up fine, with all weather data, on <>

However, my K4OAM-13 weather station is not shown on my YAAC map,
unless I change my weather server path to any tier2 aprs server -
such as <>. Then, K4OAM-13 becomes visible on YAAC

Returning to the CWOP server (<>), my K4OAM-13 weather
station disappears from the YAAC map.

(All YACC filters are cleared)

Is this normal for the YAAC map displlay?

Jerry - K4OAM







Re: Resend of earlier query:

 

The CWOP network was originally named APRSWXNET when it was formed in Sept 2000.? The purpose was to provide amateur radio operators a way to send their real-time weather data to NOAA.? This effort was successful and soon non-hams became interested and the network was renamed CWOP (Citizen Weather Observer Program) and a way for non-hams to send in weather data was provided.? It was?recommended that the :@ packet format be used to send weather data to CWOP.? You can see the previous ten days of traffic from CWOP members using the :@ packet format here:


and the traffic from hams using the :@ packet format?here,


Note that many hams send their weather data to CWOP servers.? Also, many hams use different?packet formats to send in their weather data and you can see them here (note that hams here also send data to CWOP servers):


Other received (supposedly erroneous) packets are here,


More information about CWOP traffic from hams and non-hams is here,


and information about?the CWOP solar radiation data base here,


All the CWOP weather data flows directly from the CWOP and APRS core servers to NCEP (National Center for Environmental Prediction).

Russ
KB0TVJ



On Sun, Jan 19, 2025 at 12:16?PM Andrew P. via <andrewemt=[email protected]> wrote:
Bear in mind that the CWOP network is for weather stations _without_ amateur radio licenses, so they will not be forwarded to the regular APRS-IS network (which could be re-transmitted to RF by transmit-capable I-gates). Note that (which is _not_ the APRS-IS backbone, but merely a client of the backbone) is also a client of the CWOP network and several other non-amateur-radio networks (such as the marine AIS network), which is why can display CWOP stations.

So this is fully expected behavior if your YAAC instance is connected to the amateur-radio APRS-IS backbone but your weather station isn't.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jerry Rector - K4OAM via <kb4oam=[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2025 2:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Resend of earlier query:

Having received no reply to my earlier message, I now am
editting and reposting it:



I use a weather packet server path of <> to send
out weather information packets from my QTH.

My K4OAM-13 station shows up fine, with all weather data, on <>

However, my K4OAM-13 weather station is not shown on my YAAC map,
unless I change my weather server path to any tier2 aprs server -
such as <>. Then, K4OAM-13 becomes visible on YAAC

Returning to the CWOP server (<>), my K4OAM-13 weather
station disappears from the YAAC map.

(All YACC filters are cleared)

Is this normal for the YAAC map displlay?

Jerry - K4OAM