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Re: Is there any interest in the old Yahoo group history?

 

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Monday, December 23, 2019 9:01 AM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

The download Yahoo gave me was four enormous files in old-style mbox format,
I'm surprised there isn't a way to import them into the groups.io posts if they are already in mbox format...

--Eric
Re: Is there any interest in the old Yahoo group history?

 

The download Yahoo gave me was four enormous files in old-style mbox format, so they are going to be fun to separate. If I can't figure out how to post them to groups.io in a reasonable format (reconstructing discussion threads, etc.), I may post them on my own website off the YAAC page.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave_G0WBX via Groups.Io <g8kbvdave@...>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 8:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Is there any interest in the old Yahoo group history?

Hi.

From memory, at least one other ex Yahoo group, has made the past
history of Yahoo group messages available in a groups.io file folder, as
just one massive text file, that of course can be searched.

Crude, but it works.

73.

Dave G8KBV

--
Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:
Re: Is there any interest in the old Yahoo group history?

 

Hi.

From memory, at least one other ex Yahoo group, has made the past
history of Yahoo group messages available in a groups.io file folder, as
just one massive text file, that of course can be searched.

Crude, but it works.

73.

Dave G8KBV

--
Created on and sent from a Unix like PC running and using free and open source software:
Re: Bug: Clearing monitor frequency

 

What frequency did you specify? If you want to turn it off, you have to specify a frequency of 000.000.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Eric H. Christensen via Groups.Io <eric@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2019 1:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Bug: Clearing monitor frequency

I previously set a monitoring frequency on my beacon but now I want to remove it. Every time I delete it and tab to the next field the frequency returns. Why does this happen?

73,
Eric WG3K
Re: Is there any interest in the old Yahoo group history?

 

I think it would be nice to have the history available to look back for previous discussions of howtos and bugs and such. If you can figure out how to import them into 开云体育 that would be awesome.

73,
Eric WG3K
Bug: Clearing monitor frequency

 

I previously set a monitoring frequency on my beacon but now I want to remove it. Every time I delete it and tab to the next field the frequency returns. Why does this happen?

73,
Eric WG3K
Is there any interest in the old Yahoo group history?

 

I finally managed to pry the archives of the old mailing list out of Yahoo's hands. Is there any interest in preserving these historical emails? I'm not sure how to get them into groups.io, and it would still be a fair amount of work to put them on my website.

I will keep them regardless, should opinions change in the future.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
list moderator
Re: Importing one OSM pbf file overwrites or disables the last pbf that was uploaded

 

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The Dec 16th OpenStreetMap snapshot is now available for download. The annoying thing is, I processed other sets since September, but forgot to copy them over to the webserver. How embarrassing.

-------- Original message --------
From: "Eric H. Christensen via Groups.Io" <eric@...>
Date: 12/21/19 00:11 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Importing one OSM pbf file overwrites or disables the last pbf that was uploaded

-‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Friday, December 20, 2019 9:55 PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

> How old were the old tiles? :-) I admit, I haven't posted any updates since September. However, I just finished processing the December 16th snapshot of the OpenStreetMap database and will be posting that to my website tonight.

They were the ones from September.? I'm an OSM contributor so I like to be able to see my contributions (fixes and such) a lot sooner than a few months.? :)

> Your comment about old tiles getting flushed is unfortunately a design feature of the YAAC OSM preprocessing importer code. It replaces any 1x1-degree square tile with the new data for that tile in the input .pbf or .osm.bz2 file.

Hmmm...? Yeah, I can see what's going on there.? So I should be downloading more data than I am instead of trying to stitch together smaller pieces.

> This is why I routinely import the whole planet dataset in one giant lump. The last run took me not quite 22 hours to process (on a fairly high-powered gaming system), and will take another hour to compress the individual tile files for more efficient network transfer for other users.

I always wondered how long it would take to process the entire globe's worth of data.? I wonder if you were to process the daily diffs if it would take a vastly shorter amount of time and could keep the tiles up to date for everyone.

73,
Eric WG3K

Re: Importing one OSM pbf file overwrites or disables the last pbf that was uploaded

 

-‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Friday, December 20, 2019 9:55 PM, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:

How old were the old tiles? :-) I admit, I haven't posted any updates since September. However, I just finished processing the December 16th snapshot of the OpenStreetMap database and will be posting that to my website tonight.
They were the ones from September. I'm an OSM contributor so I like to be able to see my contributions (fixes and such) a lot sooner than a few months. :)

Your comment about old tiles getting flushed is unfortunately a design feature of the YAAC OSM preprocessing importer code. It replaces any 1x1-degree square tile with the new data for that tile in the input .pbf or .osm.bz2 file.
Hmmm... Yeah, I can see what's going on there. So I should be downloading more data than I am instead of trying to stitch together smaller pieces.

This is why I routinely import the whole planet dataset in one giant lump. The last run took me not quite 22 hours to process (on a fairly high-powered gaming system), and will take another hour to compress the individual tile files for more efficient network transfer for other users.
I always wondered how long it would take to process the entire globe's worth of data. I wonder if you were to process the daily diffs if it would take a vastly shorter amount of time and could keep the tiles up to date for everyone.

73,
Eric WG3K
Re: Importing one OSM pbf file overwrites or disables the last pbf that was uploaded

 

How old were the old tiles? :-) I admit, I haven't posted any updates since September. However, I just finished processing the December 16th snapshot of the OpenStreetMap database and will be posting that to my website tonight.

Your comment about old tiles getting flushed is unfortunately a design feature of the YAAC OSM preprocessing importer code. It replaces any 1x1-degree square tile with the new data for that tile in the input .pbf or .osm.bz2 file. So, if you are going to do partial segments of the world map, I recommend getting an export that is axis-aligned to whole degree boundaries (for example, -100 to -90 degrees longitude, +20 to +30 degrees latitude), rather than bounded to higgly-piggly political or geographical borders. It can't merge two files together because it is possible for a Way (polyline) to exit and reenter a 1-degree square tile, such that there are two Ways in the same .ways file with the same identifier (different pieces of the Way). The importer wouldn't know which ones of the old file versus the new file to keep (it is possible for OpenStreetMap editors to remove obsolete map features), so it just discards the old tile file entirely and replaces it with the new one for that tile based solely on the new input data.

This is why I routinely import the whole planet dataset in one giant lump. The last run took me not quite 22 hours to process (on a fairly high-powered gaming system), and will take another hour to compress the individual tile files for more efficient network transfer for other users.

Sorry about the bad news.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
Re: YAAC over aredn mesh?

 

YAAC can operate over any TCP/IP network (including AREDN mesh). However, its only operating mode there is connecting to an APRS-IS server (or something that acts like an APRS-IS server). So, you could run a couple copies of javAPRSsrvr or aprsc on nodes of your AREDN network as a redundant "backbone" (basically, a scaled-down version of the APRS-IS Tier 1 and Tier 2 networks), and have all your YAAC (or other) APRS clients connect to them and both transmit and receive APRS packets using the APRS-IS server-client protocol.

YAAC can also function as an I-gate to relay traffic between RF and TCP/IP networks; other applications do a better job than YAAC at this task because YAAC was optimized for presenting data to its local operator, rather than for forwarding to other operators (aprx is an example of the other extreme of optimization), but YAAC can do it.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
Importing one OSM pbf file overwrites or disables the last pbf that was uploaded

 

I was getting annoyed at the old OSM tiles that were available directly through YAAC so I started downloading entire U.S. states via Geofabrik. First problem I noticed is that when I imported my Yukon pbf, YAAC seemed to not show any mapping data that I already had downloaded in the way of tiles. When I then imported the Alaska pbf the Yukon went away. This behavior was not expected as I would have assumed these pieces to have fit together instead of one being thrown out for the other. Is this a bug or am I missing something here?

73,
Eric WG3K
YAAC over aredn mesh?

 

I have a mixture of operators all on an island aredn mesh network; some
mobile mesh capable.? Is it possible to have YAAC transmit and receive
positions over the mesh as well as RF?? Say a mobile mesh raspberry pi
running YAAC and a gps receiver able to be tracked by other YAAC users
on the mesh and gated to the RF?

Thanks for any advice on this.

Bill

KW4MP
Re: Getting started with YAAC

 

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Please note that the help index you discovered on the website is an exact copy of the help built into each copy of YAAC, accessible offline from the Help menu in YAAC. Also, the website may be out-of-date; I don't want to copy help updates before I actually release a build, and then sometimes forget to post the help updates after posting the new release code (especially if the help changes are minor).

-------- Original message --------
From: Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Date: 12/18/19 15:15 (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

In my initial search, I only found the YAAC home page
(). I was thinking there isn't a
whole lot of detail here. After further searching, I accidentally found
the help page () which led
me to the serial page
(). If I had
found this page earlier, it may have saved me a lot of time and
questions. Might I request you consider putting a link to this very
helpful information on your home page?

However, I find for whatever reason, the string KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r
wasn't working. I tried KISSM\r and that worked! And, it reset from the
KISS mode when exiting YAAC. I went back and tried the built-in KISS
ON\r\wRESTART\r again, and now that works, too. I must have fat-fingered
something along the line.

Now it is running, I am getting data, it starts and stops properly, and
I can move on trying to decipher what I am looking at.

Thanks again for all your help, and especially with your patience with me.

Michael WA7SKG


Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 11:31 AM:
> YAAC should do it. The \r in the command string says to send a carriage return (Enter key if you hand-typed it to the TNC), and the \w says to wait for the next command prompt. Note that specifying the command sequence only does something if you save the configuration change; then it closes the port and reopens it according to the updated configuration.
>
> Also, when YAAC shuts down, if it automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, it takes it out automatically too (as it also does when you use the Test Port window).
>
> ________________________________________
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 2:23 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC
>
> Well, I thought YAAC would do it, but it apparently did not. I initially
> selected TNC2:KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r but that does not seem to do
> anything. I can't find anything in the TAPR Command Reference to give
> multiple commands at one time.
>
> This leads me to another question, how do I get the TNC out of KISS mode
> when I am done with YAAC? In our area, we have increasing conventional
> non-APRS packet operation with BBSs, etc. I have to be in regular mode
> to use these, but it seems that now my TNC is in KISS mode, it is there
> forever. The TAPR Command Reference does not really say a lot about
> this, except that to manually restore from KISS mode, I must open the
> TNC, remove power, and remove the battery for several minutes, then
> start from scratch. Seems to me there must be a better way. I know with
> Xastir, the interface configuration can specify start-up and shut-down
> files with command sequences.
>
> Michael WA7SKG
>
> Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 9:04 AM:
>> Re: being in KISS mode: that's why I recommend letting YAAC do it instead of doing manually. Tht way, you don't forget to issue one of the commands. :-)
>>
>> Re: moving the map: you can also move it with the cursor (arrow) keys and the Page Up/Down keys. And it can move itself for a mobile station with GPS.
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:56 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC
>>
>> Oops. Actually, it wasn't all the way in KISS mode. At the cmd: prompt I
>> got KISS ON. I missed the restart. I closed everything and accessed the
>> TNC with minicom and gave (another, I know I did it previously) the
>> RESTART command and started seeing strange things instead of the
>> readable text I saw before. Fired up YAAC again and now the Raw Packet
>> Sniffer is cranking out packets and stuff is starting to populate the map.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> This map is so much easier to navigate than Xastir. I can drag it around
>> and zoom in and out with the scroll wheel.
>>
>> Michael WA7SKG
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/18/19 7:58 AM:
>>> Yes, it is in KISS mode. The weird thing I don't understand is why do I
>>> see good information in the TEST PORT window, but nothing in the Raw
>>> Packet Sniffer?
>>>
>>> Michael WA7SKG
>>>
>>>
>>> Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 4:04 AM:
>>>> Did you remember to put the TNC into KISS mode (either manually, or
>>>> using YAAC's automatic command sending in the Serial_TNC port driver)?
>>>> The weird characters were probably the ones with parity bit set while
>>>> receiving packets in command mode.
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael
>>>> WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 1:42 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC
>>>>
>>>> Changed the TNC to 8N1 on the COM port. Now the data shown in the Test
>>>> Port button now shows the normal readable traffic seen in Xastir or
>>>> minicom. But still nothing shows in the Raw Packet Sniffer, nor does
>>>> anything show on the map.
>>>>
>>>> Still confused.
>>>>
>>>> Michael WA7SKG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/17/19 6:18 PM:
>>>>> Got it loaded in a Linux Mint computer. Using an MFJ-1274 TNC with RAM
>>>>> upgrade and latest (1.1.9) TNC-2 firmware. I went through the
>>>>> configuration wizard and set everything up, proper serial port, speed,
>>>>> etc. With the Serial_TNC port page, I hit the TEST PORT button and see
>>>>> the data coming from the TNC. The text is somewhat garbled and each line
>>>>> overwrites the previous line, making it hard to read. I see callsigns,
>>>>> site aliases, and seemingly random characters. But I get no data showing
>>>>> on the map. I check View > Raw Packets and nothing shows on the window.
>>>>>
>>>>> Xastir shows all kinds of data, so I know the TNC and radio
>>>>> configurations should be right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas where to check?
>>>>>
>>>>> tnx es 73,
>>>>> Michael WA7SKG
>>

Re: Getting started with YAAC

 

In my initial search, I only found the YAAC home page (). I was thinking there isn't a whole lot of detail here. After further searching, I accidentally found the help page () which led me to the serial page (). If I had found this page earlier, it may have saved me a lot of time and questions. Might I request you consider putting a link to this very helpful information on your home page?

However, I find for whatever reason, the string KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r wasn't working. I tried KISSM\r and that worked! And, it reset from the KISS mode when exiting YAAC. I went back and tried the built-in KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r again, and now that works, too. I must have fat-fingered something along the line.

Now it is running, I am getting data, it starts and stops properly, and I can move on trying to decipher what I am looking at.

Thanks again for all your help, and especially with your patience with me.

Michael WA7SKG


Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 11:31 AM:

YAAC should do it. The \r in the command string says to send a carriage return (Enter key if you hand-typed it to the TNC), and the \w says to wait for the next command prompt. Note that specifying the command sequence only does something if you save the configuration change; then it closes the port and reopens it according to the updated configuration.
Also, when YAAC shuts down, if it automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, it takes it out automatically too (as it also does when you use the Test Port window).
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC
Well, I thought YAAC would do it, but it apparently did not. I initially
selected TNC2:KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r but that does not seem to do
anything. I can't find anything in the TAPR Command Reference to give
multiple commands at one time.
This leads me to another question, how do I get the TNC out of KISS mode
when I am done with YAAC? In our area, we have increasing conventional
non-APRS packet operation with BBSs, etc. I have to be in regular mode
to use these, but it seems that now my TNC is in KISS mode, it is there
forever. The TAPR Command Reference does not really say a lot about
this, except that to manually restore from KISS mode, I must open the
TNC, remove power, and remove the battery for several minutes, then
start from scratch. Seems to me there must be a better way. I know with
Xastir, the interface configuration can specify start-up and shut-down
files with command sequences.
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 9:04 AM:
Re: being in KISS mode: that's why I recommend letting YAAC do it instead of doing manually. Tht way, you don't forget to issue one of the commands. :-)

Re: moving the map: you can also move it with the cursor (arrow) keys and the Page Up/Down keys. And it can move itself for a mobile station with GPS.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Oops. Actually, it wasn't all the way in KISS mode. At the cmd: prompt I
got KISS ON. I missed the restart. I closed everything and accessed the
TNC with minicom and gave (another, I know I did it previously) the
RESTART command and started seeing strange things instead of the
readable text I saw before. Fired up YAAC again and now the Raw Packet
Sniffer is cranking out packets and stuff is starting to populate the map.

Thanks for your help.

This map is so much easier to navigate than Xastir. I can drag it around
and zoom in and out with the scroll wheel.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/18/19 7:58 AM:
Yes, it is in KISS mode. The weird thing I don't understand is why do I
see good information in the TEST PORT window, but nothing in the Raw
Packet Sniffer?

Michael WA7SKG


Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 4:04 AM:
Did you remember to put the TNC into KISS mode (either manually, or
using YAAC's automatic command sending in the Serial_TNC port driver)?
The weird characters were probably the ones with parity bit set while
receiving packets in command mode.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael
WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 1:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Changed the TNC to 8N1 on the COM port. Now the data shown in the Test
Port button now shows the normal readable traffic seen in Xastir or
minicom. But still nothing shows in the Raw Packet Sniffer, nor does
anything show on the map.

Still confused.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/17/19 6:18 PM:
Got it loaded in a Linux Mint computer. Using an MFJ-1274 TNC with RAM
upgrade and latest (1.1.9) TNC-2 firmware. I went through the
configuration wizard and set everything up, proper serial port, speed,
etc. With the Serial_TNC port page, I hit the TEST PORT button and see
the data coming from the TNC. The text is somewhat garbled and each line
overwrites the previous line, making it hard to read. I see callsigns,
site aliases, and seemingly random characters. But I get no data showing
on the map. I check View > Raw Packets and nothing shows on the window.

Xastir shows all kinds of data, so I know the TNC and radio
configurations should be right.

Any ideas where to check?

tnx es 73,
Michael WA7SKG
Re: Getting started with YAAC

 

YAAC should do it. The \r in the command string says to send a carriage return (Enter key if you hand-typed it to the TNC), and the \w says to wait for the next command prompt. Note that specifying the command sequence only does something if you save the configuration change; then it closes the port and reopens it according to the updated configuration.

Also, when YAAC shuts down, if it automatically put the TNC into KISS mode, it takes it out automatically too (as it also does when you use the Test Port window).

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 2:23 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Well, I thought YAAC would do it, but it apparently did not. I initially
selected TNC2:KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r but that does not seem to do
anything. I can't find anything in the TAPR Command Reference to give
multiple commands at one time.

This leads me to another question, how do I get the TNC out of KISS mode
when I am done with YAAC? In our area, we have increasing conventional
non-APRS packet operation with BBSs, etc. I have to be in regular mode
to use these, but it seems that now my TNC is in KISS mode, it is there
forever. The TAPR Command Reference does not really say a lot about
this, except that to manually restore from KISS mode, I must open the
TNC, remove power, and remove the battery for several minutes, then
start from scratch. Seems to me there must be a better way. I know with
Xastir, the interface configuration can specify start-up and shut-down
files with command sequences.

Michael WA7SKG

Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 9:04 AM:
Re: being in KISS mode: that's why I recommend letting YAAC do it instead of doing manually. Tht way, you don't forget to issue one of the commands. :-)

Re: moving the map: you can also move it with the cursor (arrow) keys and the Page Up/Down keys. And it can move itself for a mobile station with GPS.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Oops. Actually, it wasn't all the way in KISS mode. At the cmd: prompt I
got KISS ON. I missed the restart. I closed everything and accessed the
TNC with minicom and gave (another, I know I did it previously) the
RESTART command and started seeing strange things instead of the
readable text I saw before. Fired up YAAC again and now the Raw Packet
Sniffer is cranking out packets and stuff is starting to populate the map.

Thanks for your help.

This map is so much easier to navigate than Xastir. I can drag it around
and zoom in and out with the scroll wheel.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/18/19 7:58 AM:
Yes, it is in KISS mode. The weird thing I don't understand is why do I
see good information in the TEST PORT window, but nothing in the Raw
Packet Sniffer?

Michael WA7SKG


Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 4:04 AM:
Did you remember to put the TNC into KISS mode (either manually, or
using YAAC's automatic command sending in the Serial_TNC port driver)?
The weird characters were probably the ones with parity bit set while
receiving packets in command mode.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael
WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 1:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Changed the TNC to 8N1 on the COM port. Now the data shown in the Test
Port button now shows the normal readable traffic seen in Xastir or
minicom. But still nothing shows in the Raw Packet Sniffer, nor does
anything show on the map.

Still confused.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/17/19 6:18 PM:
Got it loaded in a Linux Mint computer. Using an MFJ-1274 TNC with RAM
upgrade and latest (1.1.9) TNC-2 firmware. I went through the
configuration wizard and set everything up, proper serial port, speed,
etc. With the Serial_TNC port page, I hit the TEST PORT button and see
the data coming from the TNC. The text is somewhat garbled and each line
overwrites the previous line, making it hard to read. I see callsigns,
site aliases, and seemingly random characters. But I get no data showing
on the map. I check View > Raw Packets and nothing shows on the window.

Xastir shows all kinds of data, so I know the TNC and radio
configurations should be right.

Any ideas where to check?

tnx es 73,
Michael WA7SKG
Re: Getting started with YAAC

 

Well, I thought YAAC would do it, but it apparently did not. I initially selected TNC2:KISS ON\r\wRESTART\r but that does not seem to do anything. I can't find anything in the TAPR Command Reference to give multiple commands at one time.

This leads me to another question, how do I get the TNC out of KISS mode when I am done with YAAC? In our area, we have increasing conventional non-APRS packet operation with BBSs, etc. I have to be in regular mode to use these, but it seems that now my TNC is in KISS mode, it is there forever. The TAPR Command Reference does not really say a lot about this, except that to manually restore from KISS mode, I must open the TNC, remove power, and remove the battery for several minutes, then start from scratch. Seems to me there must be a better way. I know with Xastir, the interface configuration can specify start-up and shut-down files with command sequences.

Michael WA7SKG

Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 9:04 AM:

Re: being in KISS mode: that's why I recommend letting YAAC do it instead of doing manually. Tht way, you don't forget to issue one of the commands. :-)
Re: moving the map: you can also move it with the cursor (arrow) keys and the Page Up/Down keys. And it can move itself for a mobile station with GPS.
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC
Oops. Actually, it wasn't all the way in KISS mode. At the cmd: prompt I
got KISS ON. I missed the restart. I closed everything and accessed the
TNC with minicom and gave (another, I know I did it previously) the
RESTART command and started seeing strange things instead of the
readable text I saw before. Fired up YAAC again and now the Raw Packet
Sniffer is cranking out packets and stuff is starting to populate the map.
Thanks for your help.
This map is so much easier to navigate than Xastir. I can drag it around
and zoom in and out with the scroll wheel.
Michael WA7SKG
Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/18/19 7:58 AM:
Yes, it is in KISS mode. The weird thing I don't understand is why do I
see good information in the TEST PORT window, but nothing in the Raw
Packet Sniffer?

Michael WA7SKG


Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 4:04 AM:
Did you remember to put the TNC into KISS mode (either manually, or
using YAAC's automatic command sending in the Serial_TNC port driver)?
The weird characters were probably the ones with parity bit set while
receiving packets in command mode.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael
WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 1:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Changed the TNC to 8N1 on the COM port. Now the data shown in the Test
Port button now shows the normal readable traffic seen in Xastir or
minicom. But still nothing shows in the Raw Packet Sniffer, nor does
anything show on the map.

Still confused.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/17/19 6:18 PM:
Got it loaded in a Linux Mint computer. Using an MFJ-1274 TNC with RAM
upgrade and latest (1.1.9) TNC-2 firmware. I went through the
configuration wizard and set everything up, proper serial port, speed,
etc. With the Serial_TNC port page, I hit the TEST PORT button and see
the data coming from the TNC. The text is somewhat garbled and each line
overwrites the previous line, making it hard to read. I see callsigns,
site aliases, and seemingly random characters. But I get no data showing
on the map. I check View > Raw Packets and nothing shows on the window.

Xastir shows all kinds of data, so I know the TNC and radio
configurations should be right.

Any ideas where to check?

tnx es 73,
Michael WA7SKG
Re: Getting started with YAAC

 

Re: being in KISS mode: that's why I recommend letting YAAC do it instead of doing manually. Tht way, you don't forget to issue one of the commands. :-)

Re: moving the map: you can also move it with the cursor (arrow) keys and the Page Up/Down keys. And it can move itself for a mobile station with GPS.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 11:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Oops. Actually, it wasn't all the way in KISS mode. At the cmd: prompt I
got KISS ON. I missed the restart. I closed everything and accessed the
TNC with minicom and gave (another, I know I did it previously) the
RESTART command and started seeing strange things instead of the
readable text I saw before. Fired up YAAC again and now the Raw Packet
Sniffer is cranking out packets and stuff is starting to populate the map.

Thanks for your help.

This map is so much easier to navigate than Xastir. I can drag it around
and zoom in and out with the scroll wheel.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/18/19 7:58 AM:
Yes, it is in KISS mode. The weird thing I don't understand is why do I
see good information in the TEST PORT window, but nothing in the Raw
Packet Sniffer?

Michael WA7SKG


Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 4:04 AM:
Did you remember to put the TNC into KISS mode (either manually, or
using YAAC's automatic command sending in the Serial_TNC port driver)?
The weird characters were probably the ones with parity bit set while
receiving packets in command mode.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael
WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 1:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Changed the TNC to 8N1 on the COM port. Now the data shown in the Test
Port button now shows the normal readable traffic seen in Xastir or
minicom. But still nothing shows in the Raw Packet Sniffer, nor does
anything show on the map.

Still confused.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/17/19 6:18 PM:
Got it loaded in a Linux Mint computer. Using an MFJ-1274 TNC with RAM
upgrade and latest (1.1.9) TNC-2 firmware. I went through the
configuration wizard and set everything up, proper serial port, speed,
etc. With the Serial_TNC port page, I hit the TEST PORT button and see
the data coming from the TNC. The text is somewhat garbled and each line
overwrites the previous line, making it hard to read. I see callsigns,
site aliases, and seemingly random characters. But I get no data showing
on the map. I check View > Raw Packets and nothing shows on the window.

Xastir shows all kinds of data, so I know the TNC and radio
configurations should be right.

Any ideas where to check?

tnx es 73,
Michael WA7SKG
Re: Getting started with YAAC

 

Oops. Actually, it wasn't all the way in KISS mode. At the cmd: prompt I got KISS ON. I missed the restart. I closed everything and accessed the TNC with minicom and gave (another, I know I did it previously) the RESTART command and started seeing strange things instead of the readable text I saw before. Fired up YAAC again and now the Raw Packet Sniffer is cranking out packets and stuff is starting to populate the map.

Thanks for your help.

This map is so much easier to navigate than Xastir. I can drag it around and zoom in and out with the scroll wheel.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/18/19 7:58 AM:

Yes, it is in KISS mode. The weird thing I don't understand is why do I see good information in the TEST PORT window, but nothing in the Raw Packet Sniffer?
Michael WA7SKG
Andrew P. wrote on 12/18/19 4:04 AM:
Did you remember to put the TNC into KISS mode (either manually, or using YAAC's automatic command sending in the Serial_TNC port driver)? The weird characters were probably the ones with parity bit set while receiving packets in command mode.

________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Michael WA7SKG <wa7skg@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 1:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Getting started with YAAC

Changed the TNC to 8N1 on the COM port. Now the data shown in the Test
Port button now shows the normal readable traffic seen in Xastir or
minicom. But still nothing shows in the Raw Packet Sniffer, nor does
anything show on the map.

Still confused.

Michael WA7SKG



Michael WA7SKG wrote on 12/17/19 6:18 PM:
Got it loaded in a Linux Mint computer. Using an MFJ-1274 TNC with RAM
upgrade and latest (1.1.9) TNC-2 firmware. I went through the
configuration wizard and set everything up, proper serial port, speed,
etc. With the Serial_TNC port page, I hit the TEST PORT button and see
the data coming from the TNC. The text is somewhat garbled and each line
overwrites the previous line, making it hard to read. I see callsigns,
site aliases, and seemingly random characters. But I get no data showing
on the map. I check View > Raw Packets and nothing shows on the window.

Xastir shows all kinds of data, so I know the TNC and radio
configurations should be right.

Any ideas where to check?

tnx es 73,
Michael WA7SKG
Re: Still working on the next build of YAAC

W. T. Jones
 

Thanks Andy! Love YAAC and appreciate the support!

Regards,

WT
Real heroes do not wear capes. They wear dog tags, turnout gear, and badges!


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:17 PM Ronny Julian <k4rjjradio@...> wrote:
Andrew this is the best program written on a dare I've ever seen!? Thanks for your efforts!? ?I promote it everytime APRS comes up as a topis.? Ronny K4RJJ

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:13 AM Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:
Greetings, all.

Just letting everyone know the new YAAC mailing list and the YAAC software author aren't dead yet (although I am declaring the old mailing list dead now). I'm still cleaning up the code after debugging and fixing a _very_ annoying GUI rendering issue introduced by a recent patch to the Java runtime, plus usual bugfixes, and some updates to support large-scale events as discussed on the aprssig@... mailing list a couple of weeks ago. But I hope to have build 143 of YAAC out before Christmas. Whether the large-scale event support plugin will be ready by then is a different question.

Also, for all those who have asked for the ability to copy YAAC configurations from one system to another, I have reluctantly (i.e., dragged kicking and screaming :-) started implementing an experimental means to re-import a YAAC configuration saved by the File->Configuration->Export to XML File option. The difficulties were in ensuring that callsign-SSID assignments weren't duplicated on multiple active stations by negligence, and accounting for operating system changes (i.e., no /dev/tty devices on Microsoft Windows or COMn ports on Linux) during the transfer, while still making it generic to support arbitrary additional configuration data from plugins (and enhancing all relevant plugins to support it). It's a big issue.

So, you'll have an upgrade with some big new features soon.

It's been a long road since I first officially released YAAC back in 2012. Thanks, all, for making it worth the effort.

Andrew Pavlin, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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