The answer _should_ be "yes". If an I-gate hears a packet, it should always forward it (not sure if the digipeater anti-looping logic should apply to an I-gate). Of course, that also requires that the I-gate's Internet connection is up at the time, too; I-gates don't generally cache packets if their Internet connection is down.

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I have a general question about APRS, not so much about YAAC. If my path is set to direct, and my packet reaches an igate, will it still make the internet? I say yes because path doesn't have anything to do with igating.
Thanks,
Danny

I have a general question about APRS, not so much about YAAC. If my path is set to direct, and my packet reaches an igate, will it still make the internet? I say yes because path doesn't have anything to do with igating.?
Thanks,
Danny

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Yes, that's a problem I've been wrangling with for quite some time. Dicing up a map into tile squares with large bodies of water makes it hard to figure out which edges of the square are the body of water, and I'm still trying to fix the algorithm.

I've noticed that YAAC isn't rendering water that is contained by shoreline ways as being water. This leaves a lot of water area showing up as white space.

Thanks,
Eric WG3K

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Are you running YAAC on Windows? I had one other report of this, and my current guess is that YAAC is trying to read the wxnow.txt file at the same time the other program is writing it. Microsoft Windows generally locks a file opened for write for exclusive access, so YAAC wouldn't be able to open it for read. The current code in YAAC can't handle being blocked from opening the file; I have a fix in the upcoming next build of YAAC.?

Good evening group,
Yet another question. I am using YAAC along with my Davis weather station and for the most part it works good however every couple of days the WXNOW. TXT port becomes disabled. When clicking the WX button on the main screen, the “enable port” box is unchecked and if looking in the configuration menu under ports the enable box is still checked but the text is in red. Any thoughts or suggestions on what is going on?
I have YAAC handling Digi, IGate and weather so I’m not using any weather symbol.
Thank you in advance, Alan N2ZVN

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I concur... it’s been awhile since I’ve been able to participate and I’m just now getting my iGate set back up... going to see if a FTM-350 is up for the task.?

Hi Andrew,

Ditto with the others -- many thanks for continuing to support such a
great program.

73, KD0KZE / Paul

BIG "Thank You" for being there!

GREAT application even if I am still learning LOTS...

73

ZS6RN - Nigel in sunny (it WILL be tomorrow) South Africa?

Greetings, all.

Just letting you know I haven't forgotten about you all, and the bug reports you have submitted. I'm still working on YAAC. I have a rather large new plugin feature I'm working on, which requires a few supporting changes in the core application, so I want to get it right before releasing it. So, the next build of YAAC will be coming out soon, but not quite yet.

Thanks for making all this work worthwhile by using my program.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

Update,

I noticed on the YAAC APRS MAP when I keyed up my radio I was getting a question mark.? ?Meaning unknown position from the icon drop down list.
Thinking YAAC did't recognize the symbol I was using I change it to one that was it the drop down list. A bicycle "/b".? ?Both of my radio are? now showing up on the aprs.fi map.

I don't see a symbol just for an i-gate on the drop down list.? I guess a green star for a digipeater for a star is the next closet thing?

So I think I am good. Thanks Andrew for your help.

This is pretty cool.

Dave/AD4UU

Hello Andrew,

Thanks for your response.? I have double checked everything from your list.? All looks like it should. I have an IP icon that flashes green. I also have an rf icon flashes green when
I key up one of my aprs radio send APRS packets.? ?I also get the WX radar which is nice. I am seeing my Home icon(did't see any i-gate icons on the drop down list) on the YAAC aprs map
and I also see my radios when I key them up. Just not making to aprs.fi.? Hi fixed station does show up on the aprs.fi map. No rf.

On the wizard firt screen I entry my call sign AD4UU no ssid.? On the drop down below it where u select the ssid and tyupe of connection.? It defaults to 0.? I select 10 for igate and it does not
save it.? When i go back to look at it, its at 0 again.

Transmit is enable and beacon set with home icon.? No igate in drop down.

Thanks

Dave

OK, there are several settings you have to make before APRS-IS forwarding will occur.

1. Have you created a port of type APRS-IS, and entered your station callsign-SSID and your passcode?
2. Have you set the above port to Transmit Enabled (i.e., the port is allowed to send traffic to the APRS-IS backbone)?
3. (this shouldn't be an issue, but check it anyway) On the File->Configure->Expert Mode dialog's Transmit tab, is the Allow RF->IS checkbox checked?
4. Do you have a working Internet connection, such that the IP button on your map toolbar is showing black with occasional green or red flickers? If you don't have the button, you don't have an APRS-IS port to forward the packets. If the button is orange or gray, then there is something wrong with your connection (such as port blocking by your Internet Service Provider or firewall [including Windows Firewall on a Microsoft Windows PC]).
5. Is your beacon configured and enabled? If you don't send your own position to the APRS-IS, it may not accept your packets.
6. Is your enabled beacon selected on the APRS-IS port? Different ports are allowed to send different beacon messages (for example, if you had set up a cross-band digipeater), so ensure that at least one of your beacon definitions is enabled, correct, and selected on the APRS-IS port.

If all of the above are OK, then you should be forwarding.

Now, if the packets are showing up on aprs.fi, but not with your callsign-SSID in the 3rd-party header, then that is typical. YAAC is not the fastest I-gate application out there (it is optimized for responsively displaying data to you over being an efficient I-gate or digipeater), so if some other nearby I-gate gets the RF packets to the APRS-IS backbone before you do, your duplicate packets will be dropped. Check the location of the I-gate whose callsign-SSID is showing up in the packets. The only way you can ensure your station is working as an I-gate is to have it receive RF packets that no other I-gate could receive (such as from a low-power HT next to your I-gate) and verify those packets get through.

It's been said many times before, but I'm going to say it again. The APRS-IS backbone _CANNOT_ be used for propagation analysis, due to its duplicate packet dropping. You will never see all of the receiving I-gates for any given RF packet, just the first one.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

Hello, This is my first post. I am using The PI-TNC with a yaesu FT-1500.
I have it set-up with the serial port 0.? I want to use it as a rf in to aprs.fi Igate. DO not want to digipeat.

I am able to receive packets from my Anytone APRS HT and Mobile. I can see them on the pi-tnc YAACi aprs map along with other stations in the area.
I have not had any success getting the aprs packets from my pi-tnc to show on aprs.fi. My pi-tnc shows up fine just not getting the rf packets coming in to forward.

I have generated an aprs passcode using the aprs generator.??

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Dave/AD4UU

Hi Andrew , thanks alot for the reply.

I'm new in outhernet but use aprs and I like this way to send info to other ham radio operator.

Included you can find some of the txt files in Amateur Radio/APRS/APRSAT directory, hope is what you asked for.

Time is UTC.

If you want you can take a look at : ? .? This is how the othernet actually work.

Can imagine is not trivial make all the changes othernet port driver need to be again on your YAAC screen, but I guess this will improve a lot the use of aprs messages downloaded from the sat.

Thanks again? for your job , hope to see a version with this mod inside.

All the best , 73 de IW0HJZ? alberto

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Greetings.

It looks like the Othernet folks have completely changed the way they deliver APRS messages. Can you email me a few of those individual messages-yyyy-MM-dd_HH_mm.txt files, so I can see how they are structured? The old file format was one large file with a whole series of messages in it. Given the byte counts of these files in your directory listing, it may be only 1 APRS packet per file. Also, are those dates/times in your local timezone, or in UTC? I'm going to have to significantly rewrite the Outernet port driver to handle this major change in file structure.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC