If you use aprs.fi a lot, as I do, you'll find it extremely difficult to use three IDs. At any time two will be hidden making it difficult to click and get info.

I can't see a need for three IDs, I know if I were using three it would make it difficult for me. But it's nice to know YAAC is so configurable.

It sounds like you're trying to confuse the network. Typically, the APRS-IS port has the same callsign-SSID as the primary RF port, so that text messages can be properly relayed back and forth, and I'm not sure why you want the weather on a different SSID if it's coming out of the same station (unless it's on a different frequency for some reason).

However, you can do what you want. YAAC supports multiple beacon records, and you can specify which beacon goes on which RF or APRS-IS port. Since weather data is reported as part of the beacon, only enable weather reporting on the beacon associated with the port assigned the -13 SSID.

Hope this helps.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of justin@... <justin@...>
Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 4:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Seperate SSID for weather

Hi, N0ZO here, I've been trying out YAAC this past week, and it's almost got everything I want accomplished.
I run a digipeater with an ICOM 2200H and TinyTrak4 TNC, along with a raspberry pi 3B. I have an SSID for 0 for the digipeater (this one is actually the TinyTrak4 SSID), 1 for the igate, and 13 for the weather.

I've got an Ecowitt weather station setup, and a different raspberry pi running WeeWX outputting a wxnow.txt file, and mounted the folder on the APRS Pi so that it can read the wxnow.txt file.
All that's working fine, but the weather is being put out on the SSID-1 instead of SSID-13.

Is there a way that only the weather data goes out on SSID-13 instead of SSID-1?

Hi, N0ZO here, I've been trying out YAAC this past week, and it's almost got everything I want accomplished.
I run a digipeater with an ICOM 2200H and TinyTrak4 TNC, along with a raspberry pi 3B. I have an SSID for 0 for the digipeater (this one is actually the TinyTrak4 SSID), 1 for the igate, and 13 for the weather.?

I've got an Ecowitt weather station setup, and a different raspberry pi running WeeWX outputting a wxnow.txt file, and mounted the folder on the APRS Pi so that it can read the wxnow.txt file.?
All that's working fine, but the weather is being put out on the SSID-1 instead of SSID-13.

Is there a way that only the weather data goes out on SSID-13 instead of SSID-1?

One part of your story gave me a bit of a laugh.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KG7KMV
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:06 PM
Subject: [yaac-users] Success story

For a comparison I tried using Xastir, but didn't like it as much. YAAC is more
responsive in map rendering and UI features.

Mapping more responsive on a Raspberry Pi? I hope Xastir isn't that bad (even if they are my competition :-). Map response is terrible for me on a Pi. So I looked up KG7KMV on the FCC's Universal Licensing System to see where he lives, then compared the size of the YAAC-imported .ways files in his area to the ones in mine. Gee, the .ways file for 1x1 degree of the planet in my area is 13 times the size of one in his area (and mine are small compared to the tile for the home of the OpenStreetMap Foundation in London, England). No wonder it runs fast for KG7KMV; he's in a relatively rural area instead of in the densely urban (and highly-detailed map) area I'm in on the East coast of the United States. Plus the Raspberry Pi picked the slowest possible gadget possible for random-access mass storage: an SD card. Well, no, it could have been worse; I'm old enough to have used punched paper tape on a Model 33 Teletype. :-) And there used to be floppy disk drives, too, not that they would have enough capacity to hold the YAAC code (let alone the map data).

There's a reason I've spent 7 _years_ trying to make the YAAC map rendering faster, even as the members of the OpenStreetMap Foundation keep cancelling out my efforts by adding more details to the map database. :-) When I started writing the map code in YAAC, the OpenStreetMap dataset in compressed XML was a mere 24GB in size. Today, it's 97GB in size (one reason why I moved to using the PBF format, which is slightly smaller at 55GB, and much faster to process when it's time to re-import the entire planet again).

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

Probably just the incredibly thin wires and connector contacts in the micro-USB cable/plug/socket causing voltage drop at the Pi's high current draw, because I see the same "low voltage" problem with 120Vac powered Pi power supplies. I have one of the NW Digital Radio DRAWS hats, and I would never power a Pi using that hat from the micro-USB connector, especially since the DRAWS hat provides a 12->5 voltage regulator that backfeeds the Pi with much less voltage drop through the GPIO pins (i.e., the same power input connection that KG7KMV is using).

I just checked the NFPA's wire ampacity versus gauge table, and 22 gauge wire (which is larger than the wires in USB cables) is only rated for 0.92 amperes for power transmission. In other words, USB cables are vastly undersized for iPhone or Pi level power draws (and they get away with cheating only because the cable runs are short, unlike the 50 to 100-foot runs for house wiring). The voltage drop has to be relatively huge. There's a reason why, up until Apple, USB was rated for a maximum draw of 500mA.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Christopher Rose <kb8uih88@...>
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2020 4:01 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Success story

Does it need more amperage than it is getting?
Items plugged into the pi or stacked on it need power



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From: "Michael WA7SKG"
To: [email protected]
Cc:
Sent: Friday December 11 2020 3:46:53PM
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Success story

I tried using the USBBuddy from Powerwerx with an RPi 3B+ and it always
gave a low voltage indication. It was fine for a few other things that
were USB powered, but was less than stellar for RPi use.

YMMV

Michael WA7SKG

Nate Bargmann wrote on 12/11/20 10:22 AM:

* On 2020 10 Dec 14:15 -0600, Tommy Beene - KD4CHW wrote:

Nice setup! Where did you get the 12v to 5v converter for the Pi? I
need one for a Pi in my truck to run mine and a high power DSTAR
repeater.

Another option I saw referenced elsewhere is the USBbuddy from
Powerwerx:

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it looks like a USB A to USB C cable would be required for powering a Pi
4 or a USB micro for a Pi 3 and earlier.

I don't have one and there may be other similar devices available.

73, Nate

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Does it need more amperage than it is getting?

I tried using the USBBuddy from Powerwerx with an RPi 3B+ and it always gave a low voltage indication. It was fine for a few other things that were USB powered, but was less than stellar for RPi use.

YMMV

Michael WA7SKG

Nate Bargmann wrote on 12/11/20 10:22 AM:

* On 2020 10 Dec 14:15 -0600, Tommy Beene - KD4CHW wrote:

Nice setup! Where did you get the 12v to 5v converter for the Pi? I
need one for a Pi in my truck to run mine and a high power DSTAR
repeater.

Another option I saw referenced elsewhere is the USBbuddy from
Powerwerx:



it looks like a USB A to USB C cable would be required for powering a Pi
4 or a USB micro for a Pi 3 and earlier.

I don't have one and there may be other similar devices available.

73, Nate

--

"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true."

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This is a really cool package, nice job.

Look into the MoPi-2 Hot-Swap Mobile Power HAT for RPi. About $37 from DigiKey. Has two 6.5-24V inputs and a charge input. Powers the RPi and provides a switched 5V to control external equipment. Has an ON/OFF button for starting/cleanly stopping the RPi. I use the switched 5V to control a relay to turn my radio on and off. If voltage drops on primary input, it switches to secondary source. If secondary voltage drops, it cleanly shuts the RPi down. Normal configuration would be to put vehicle power in primary and a small rechargable battery in secondary. Feed proper voltage to charge input to keep the backup battery charged.

Works great.

73,
Michael WA7SKG

Tommy Beene - KD4CHW wrote on 12/10/20 10:18 AM:

@Andrew P - thank you for the response, You have a very fine application to be using! I'll look deeper into the tracking and routing options you described. It could be that what I want already exists if I look harder.

@Tommy - surprisingly it's a power converter intended for RC cars/planes! Wide input range of 5.5-26VDC and 5V/3A output. I run both a Pi3 and Pi4 with these and it plugs directly onto the IO pins 4-6 to power the Pi:?

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Thank you. Nice setup you have there.

Regarding your feature requests:

1. Track all stations is already available. Turn it on from View->Map Layers->Show Track Stripes. This is persisted over YAAC restarts so the next time you open YAAC it will be doing it again (or not) as you left it before. You can also specify plotting track stripes on a per-station basis from the Tracked Stations table. Also, if you don't mind having your computer talking to you, you can install the sounds plugin and the espeak application, attach a speaker to the audio out jack on the Pi, and then YAAC can verbally announce when new stations come into range. I don't recommend doing this on a major digipeater site, however; a friend of mine who's on a major Interstate highway leading to Dayton, Ohio, did that just before Hamvention a few years ago and YAAC just would not shut up about all the hams en-route to Dayton. :-)

2. I never thought one person would be simultaneously chatting with multiple people over APRS (unless it was to a single group alias for a round-table). But that sounds like a reasonable re-design of that particular window. I'll look into it. It might also be a good addition for the smallscreen plugin as well.

3. There is some control over traffic routing already.
a. Each RF port specifies which digipeating aliases it supports (suitable to ensure a VHF/HF cross-band digipeater doesn't accidentally flood the slow HF channel with local VHF traffic), which beacon it transmits (you can have a different beacon per port), and what types of traffic that port will transmit (APRS, OpenTRAC, or raw connected-mode AX.25, or any combination thereof). You can't control what it will receive (YAAC accepts anything it hears), but then you can't control what other stations are going to transmit anyway.
b. connected-mode traffic tries to use the RF port pointing at the specified station if there are multiple ports that the traffic could go through (per the traffic type settings above).
c. Each RF and APRS-IS port can be selectively enabled for transmit (so you can have a receive-only port if needed). APRS-IS ports also support beacon choice.
d. The transmit log file lists the port each packet was transmitted through.
e. You can filter the raw packet and map displays based on the port traffic was received through.

Let me know what kind of additional traffic control you need.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of KG7KMV <jonglauser@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Success story

Just wanted to share my success story:

* Raspberry Pi 3 B
* NinoTNO from tarpn.net
* Baofeng UV5R for now, just ordered a better radio as it's too weak/deaf in my area
* KM4ACK Build-a-Pi script to install VHF related software including YAAC
* Using realVNC to access the PI from a laptop/desktop/tablet
* all housed in a small HF/Apache weatherproof case
* The case has a N type bulkhead antenna connector and waterproof power connector. The radio is modified to run on 12V and the Pi has a 12V-5v converter.
* There is room to add a small battery for off-grid operation.

I've had this up for a few weeks and it's been great as a 2-way igate. There is one other RF-IS igate in my town and another 20 miles away in another town.
It was fairly easy to setup entirely through the GUI, no command line required!
I have been using it to message as many stations as I can and have made a few contacts. One is a neighbor running a BBS on 145.010 so I'm interested in adding another TNC/radio for the other frequency as long as I can make sure to direct traffic out the appropriate ports.

For a comparison I tried using Xastir, but didn't like it as much. YAAC is more responsive in map rendering and UI features. I like the messaging capabilities in YAAC better as well

pie-in-the-sky features I'd like to see:

* option to automatically start tracking new (mobile) stations so I don't have to enable it individually

* bring all the individual "chat with station" windows together into a single window with tabs or other way to select who you're chatting with.

* visibility into and/or control over which port data is being sent to (RF, IP, second RF, etc)

Just wanted to share my success story:

• Raspberry Pi 3 B
• NinoTNO from tarpn.net
• Baofeng UV5R for now, just ordered a better radio as it's too weak/deaf in my area
• KM4ACK Build-a-Pi script to install VHF related software including YAAC
• Using realVNC to access the PI from a laptop/desktop/tablet
• all housed in a small HF/Apache weatherproof case
• The case has a N type bulkhead antenna connector and waterproof power connector. The radio is modified to run on 12V and the Pi has a 12V-5v converter.
• There is room to add a small battery for off-grid operation.

I've had this up for a few weeks and it's been great as a 2-way igate. There is one other RF-IS igate in my town and another 20 miles away in another town.
It was fairly easy to setup entirely through the GUI, no command line required!
I have been using it to message as many stations as I can and have made a few contacts. One is a neighbor running a BBS on 145.010 so I'm interested in adding another TNC/radio for the other frequency as long as I can make sure to direct traffic out the appropriate ports.

For a comparison I tried using Xastir, but didn't like it as much. YAAC is more responsive in map rendering and UI features. I like the messaging capabilities in YAAC better as well

pie-in-the-sky features I'd like to see:

• option to automatically start tracking new (mobile) stations so I don't have to enable it individually

• bring all the individual "chat with station" windows together into a single window with tabs or other way to select who you're chatting with.

• visibility into and/or control over which port data is being sent to (RF, IP, second RF, etc)

I got my TNC-Pi talking on the UART and decided to put it on I2C. That was working but YAAC could not find the Port. ?I decided to go back to the serial port and I lost compunctions. I now cannot see it on the serial UART or the I2C. I hope its still working but but I not sure how to get it taking. ?I wonder if the serial UART speed if off to keep the board from talking.?

Ah, what _release_ of Mint are you using? The directions I provided work on Mint 19. I don't know if they are still valid for Mint 20. If that's the case, you'll have to look for the bluetooth package names and determine the correct package names.

sudo apt-cache pkgnames | grep blue

should get you a list of all the available packages with the word "blue" in their names. Note that these same packages are called "bluez" on the Red Hat/Fedora distros, so maybe Debian changed the package name.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ernest Bazzinotti via groups.io <ebazz@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [yaac-users] Bluetoothport plugin will not install

Hello,

Yes, I did a copy \ paste and in a terminal window.
Linux reported that it could not find the packages.

I'll give Synaptic a try, however I'm not hopeful it will find it either.
Is there a PPA or other repository that I should know about?

Thank you for the reply and your time in this matter. 73's.

Sincerely,

Ernest Bazzinotti KC1LKB
ebazz@...


On Tuesday, December 1, 2020, 01:51:42 PM EST, Andrew P. <andrewemt@...> wrote:


Did you follow the directions regarding installing the appropriate Linux library packages? Since you're on Mint (a Debian/Ubuntu derivative), you should execute the following command:

sudo apt-get install libbluetooth libbluetooth-dev

If you don't have these optional packages installed, you won't have the native libraries required to get from the plugin to the Bluetooth drivers on your system.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of ebazz via groups.io <ebazz@...<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 1:44 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [yaac-users] Bluetoothport plugin will not install

Hello,

I'm running YAAC ver 160 on a Linux Mint laptop.
I recently did the upgrade to build 160 and it went off with out a hitch.
I went to the plugin upgrade menu and tried to install the Bluetoothport plugin and it failed to install.
Any ideas.
Thank you in advance. 73's
Sincerely,

Ernest Bazzinotti KC1LKB
ebazz@...<mailto:ebazz@...>

Did you follow the directions regarding installing the appropriate Linux library packages? Since you're on Mint (a Debian/Ubuntu derivative), you should execute the following command:

sudo apt-get install libbluetooth libbluetooth-dev

If you don't have these optional packages installed, you won't have the native libraries required to get from the plugin to the Bluetooth drivers on your system.

Andrew, KA2DDO
author of YAAC
________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ebazz via groups.io <ebazz@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 1:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [yaac-users] Bluetoothport plugin will not install

Hello,

I'm running YAAC ver 160 on a Linux Mint laptop.
I recently did the upgrade to build 160 and it went off with out a hitch.
I went to the plugin upgrade menu and tried to install the Bluetoothport plugin and it failed to install.
Any ideas.
Thank you in advance. 73's
Sincerely,

Ernest Bazzinotti KC1LKB
ebazz@...

Hello,

I'm running YAAC ver 160 on a Linux Mint laptop.
I recently did the upgrade to build 160 and it went off with out a hitch.
I went to the plugin upgrade menu and tried to install the Bluetoothport plugin and it failed to install.
Any ideas.
Thank you in advance. 73's
Sincerely,

Ernest Bazzinotti KC1LKB
ebazz@...

next beta build#160 of YAAC ("Yet Another APRS Client"), created 2020-Nov-27

downloadable from
or

For those suffering from the false virus detection on YAAC, you will
have to reboot your Windows system after manually downloading the new
YAAC.zip file. Then unzip it into your existing YAAC directory. Hopefully,
this will bypass treating the new YAAC.jar file the same as the old one
that accidentally had a pattern looking like a virus in it.

changes and updates include:
1. add support for AX.25 V2.2 extended connected mode window size,
with backwards compatibility to AX.25 V2.0.
2. fix launching of the old version upgrader cleaner when there are
spaces in the directory path to the cleaner.jar file.
3. ensure that GPS log marker comments are properly escaped for the
GPX (XML) save file format.
4. persist settings for filtered message logging across YAAC restarts.
5. stop searching unlabeled ways for matching labels when searching the
OpenStreetMap data for matching geographical elements.
6. clean up performance error messages in port drivers.
7. add support for RFC1961 GSSAPI authentication for SOCKS5 proxying
in the APRS-IS port driver (formerly only PAP password authentication
was supported), plus improved error logging for SOCKS connections.
8. add support for OSM Relations and ocean shorelines that exceed
the maximum allowable vertext count for a Way in YAAC.