FLDigi sound settings.
73
Stephen Maley KQ4QWH Coats, NC
On Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 09:24:27 AM EST, Steve, KQ4QWH via groups.io <kq4qwh@...> wrote:
So I messed around with it some more last night.? Turned the squelch off in FLDigi just to make sure that wasn't blocking the waterfall.? I tuned into a station as best I could with no waterfall, mostly gibberish, but it is receiving audio.? Wanted to show the FLRig as a reference.? My com ports are COM5 (enhanced) and COM7
73
Stephen Maley KQ4QWH Coats, NC
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 10:10:28 PM EST, Steve, KQ4QWH via groups.io <kq4qwh@...> wrote:
First off, thank you so much for taking the time to try to help me.
The FLDigi version is 4.2.06, I am running Windows 11 and it has not changed.? The FT-710 uses the RF Gain/SQL.? RF gain is at max.? I'm not using the pre-amps at this time, only IPO.
I changed the audio settings as requested.
I did the TX Generate, saved it the desktop.? Then hit transmit.? I got the RTTY in my headset, and the text appears in red in the sent pane.? There was nothing on the waterfall at all.? However, it did save the audio file and I confirmed it by playing it outside of FLDigi.? The audio in the bar at the bottom does respond appropriately when I transmitted it.? It also responded if I talked into the mic.
Now here is where I get confused.? You instructions were:
"Do not change the modem used to make recording during playback."
I left it on the headset, and did the audio playback.? I got nothing.? So should I have changed the settings back to the CODEX or left it on the speaker at that point?? After that, I changed it back to my CODEX and tried again.? Now I have nothing.? It will throw a carrier, but no modulation.
Ok, I changed the configuration in FLDigi to use FLRig(2.0.05), not Hamlib.? Switching to Hamlib was the only thing I had changed in my quest, so I went back to FLRig.? Obviously FLDigi doesn't like the Hamlib for some reason, but I eliminated that.
I did a test of the radio then using VarAC, successful.
Ok, brought up FLDigi/FLRig.? Tuned to an appropriate freq, transmitted CQ.? The radio successfully transmitted the CQ.? Here is a screen capture of my FLDigi.
So, the issue isn't with my CODEX or windows settings.? It has to be that I have screwed up the actual controls of FLDigi from the main screen.? I have tried to play with the various sliders and controls along the bottom with no change to the waterfall.? And there are so many other modes discussed in the manual that I have not successfully figured out the correct settings for RTTY.? Hell, I can't even get someone to give me a straight answer on what mode the FT-710 is supposed to be in, LSB, Data L, or RTTY L (though this makes sense for bandpass) but without a waterfall to track in and try to receive, all I have is the waterfall on the radio, that has not been successful.
So there I am.
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 07:02:13 PM EST, Robert, KK5VD via groups.io <kk5vd@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows] A little more information is required to assist. What OS version do you have. Did you change the OS version from the last time it worked. What version of FLDIGI are you using. You can get garbage output in the absents of a signal, that does not necessarily mean anything other then to say that the squelch is set low (Radio and/or FLDIGI). Here is a simple test to rule out a few things. Under Configure->Soundcard->Device settings (FLDIGI) select "Microphone" for Capture and "Speakers" for playback. Place any headset/speakers to the computer with volume turned up in order to listen. Copy this (following text, between the ----- lines) ------------------------ To be on not to be that is the question ^r ------------------------ Paste it into the transmit panel. Do not hit transmit button yet, and turn off the connected transmitter if it's on. From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate". When it asks for a save location, note file name and save it to the desktop. Press the T/R (on FLDIGI). Do you hear digital audio output from the speakers/headset and see a digital signal on the waterfall? From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate" a second time (turning it off). Do not change the modem used to make recording during playback. From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->Playback" locate the audio file saved. Default name: generate.wav on desktop. Once found mouse click the file, and press open. You will be asked if you want play the file indefinitely, your call as to which. Do you see a digital signal on the water fall that matches what you sent? In the RX panel do you see the following text? "To be on not to be that is the question". Select "File->Audio->Playback" a second time to disable indefinite playback.? If you have a microphone connected, when speaking into it do you see any changes in the waterfall that a signal is present and correlates with your speaking? If so, then the likely issue follows: The Audio capture/playback device is not set to the correct device. Which might imply, ? ? a) Select the correct audio device from the configure dialog (FLDIGI). ? ? b) You need to set permission for FLDIGI to have access to said device. ? ? c) You need a device driver is order have access to said device. ? ? d) Cable/Interface that connects between your radio and computer is; missing, loosely connected, or defective is some fashion. ? ? e) The radio is not set to take input/output from the computer interface. (Edit:Added)
Don't know how much more I can assist you as I'm a hand on person in order to troubleshoot issues. But, let me know if you need help on the stated corrective suggestions.
Robert
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Hi Steve,
Just a quick observation. I see you have the waterfall on pause. You
won't see your waterfall with that selection.
73, Ron NY3J
On 2/9/2025 9:24 AM, Steve, KQ4QWH via
groups.io wrote:
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So I messed around with it
some more last night.? Turned the squelch off in FLDigi just
to make sure that wasn't blocking the waterfall.? I tuned
into a station as best I could with no waterfall, mostly
gibberish, but it is receiving audio.? Wanted to show the
FLRig as a reference.? My com ports are COM5 (enhanced) and
COM7
73
Stephen Maley
KQ4QWH
Coats, NC
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 10:10:28 PM EST, Steve,
KQ4QWH via groups.io <kq4qwh@...>
wrote:
First off, thank you so much for
taking the time to try to help me.
The FLDigi version is 4.2.06, I am
running Windows 11 and it has not changed.? The
FT-710 uses the RF Gain/SQL.? RF gain is at max.?
I'm not using the pre-amps at this time, only IPO.
I changed the audio settings as
requested.
I did the TX Generate, saved it the
desktop.? Then hit transmit.? I got the RTTY in my
headset, and the text appears in red in the sent
pane.? There was nothing on the waterfall at all.?
However, it did save the audio file and I
confirmed it by playing it outside of FLDigi.? The
audio in the bar at the bottom does respond
appropriately when I transmitted it.? It also
responded if I talked into the mic.
Now here is where I get
confused.? You instructions were:
"Do not change the modem
used to make recording during playback."
I left it on the headset,
and did the audio playback.? I got nothing.?
So should I have changed the settings back to
the CODEX or left it on the speaker at that
point?? After that, I changed it back to my
CODEX and tried again.? Now I have nothing.?
It will throw a carrier, but no modulation.
Ok, I changed the
configuration in FLDigi to use FLRig(2.0.05),
not Hamlib.? Switching to Hamlib was the only
thing I had changed in my quest, so I went
back to FLRig.? Obviously FLDigi doesn't like
the Hamlib for some reason, but I eliminated
that.
I did a test of the radio
then using VarAC, successful.
Ok, brought up
FLDigi/FLRig.? Tuned to an appropriate freq,
transmitted CQ.? The radio successfully
transmitted the CQ.? Here is a screen capture
of my FLDigi.
So, the issue isn't
with my CODEX or windows settings.? It has
to be that I have screwed up the actual
controls of FLDigi from the main screen.? I
have tried to play with the various sliders
and controls along the bottom with no change
to the waterfall.? And there are so many
other modes discussed in the manual that I
have not successfully figured out the
correct settings for RTTY.? Hell, I can't
even get someone to give me a straight
answer on what mode the FT-710 is supposed
to be in, LSB, Data L, or RTTY L (though
this makes sense for bandpass) but without a
waterfall to track in and try to receive,
all I have is the waterfall on the radio,
that has not been successful.
So there I am.
73
Steve
KQ4QWH
Coats, NC
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 07:02:13 PM
EST, Robert, KK5VD via groups.io
<kk5vd@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
A little more information is required to assist.
What OS version do you have. Did you change the
OS version from the last time it worked.
What version of FLDIGI are you using.
You can get garbage output in the absents of a
signal, that does not necessarily mean anything
other then to say that the squelch is set low
(Radio and/or FLDIGI).
Here is a simple test to rule out a few things.
Under Configure->Soundcard->Device
settings (FLDIGI) select "Microphone" for
Capture and "Speakers" for playback.
Place any headset/speakers to the computer with
volume turned up in order to listen.
Copy this (following text, between the -----
lines)
------------------------
To be on not to be that is the question ^r
------------------------
Paste it into the transmit panel.
Do not hit transmit button yet, and turn off the
connected transmitter if it's on.
From the FLDIGI's menu select
"File->Audio->TX generate". When it asks
for a save location, note file name and save it
to the desktop.
Press the T/R (on FLDIGI).
Do you hear digital audio output from the
speakers/headset and see a digital signal on the
waterfall?
From the FLDIGI's menu select
"File->Audio->TX generate" a second time
(turning it off).
Do not change the modem used to make recording
during playback.
From the FLDIGI's menu select
"File->Audio->Playback" locate the audio
file saved. Default name: generate.wav on
desktop. Once found mouse click the file, and
press open.
You will be asked if you want play the file
indefinitely, your call as to which.
Do you see a digital signal on the water fall
that matches what you sent? In the RX panel do
you see the following text? "To be on not to be
that is the question".
Select "File->Audio->Playback" a second
time to disable indefinite playback.?
If you have a microphone connected, when
speaking into it do you see any changes in the
waterfall that a signal is present and
correlates with your speaking?
If so, then the likely issue follows:
The Audio capture/playback device is not set to
the correct device.
Which might imply,
? ? a) Select the correct audio device from the
configure dialog (FLDIGI).
? ? b) You need to set permission for FLDIGI to
have access to said device.
? ? c) You need a device driver is order have
access to said device.
? ? d) Cable/Interface that connects between
your radio and computer is; missing, loosely
connected, or defective is some fashion.
? ? e) The radio is not set to take input/output
from the computer interface. (Edit:Added)
Don't know how much more I can assist you as
I'm a hand on person in order to troubleshoot
issues. But, let me know if you need help on
the stated corrective suggestions.
Robert
|
So I messed around with it some more last night.? Turned the squelch off in FLDigi just to make sure that wasn't blocking the waterfall.? I tuned into a station as best I could with no waterfall, mostly gibberish, but it is receiving audio.? Wanted to show the FLRig as a reference.? My com ports are COM5 (enhanced) and COM7
73
Stephen Maley KQ4QWH Coats, NC
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 10:10:28 PM EST, Steve, KQ4QWH via groups.io <kq4qwh@...> wrote:
First off, thank you so much for taking the time to try to help me.
The FLDigi version is 4.2.06, I am running Windows 11 and it has not changed.? The FT-710 uses the RF Gain/SQL.? RF gain is at max.? I'm not using the pre-amps at this time, only IPO.
I changed the audio settings as requested.
I did the TX Generate, saved it the desktop.? Then hit transmit.? I got the RTTY in my headset, and the text appears in red in the sent pane.? There was nothing on the waterfall at all.? However, it did save the audio file and I confirmed it by playing it outside of FLDigi.? The audio in the bar at the bottom does respond appropriately when I transmitted it.? It also responded if I talked into the mic.
Now here is where I get confused.? You instructions were:
"Do not change the modem used to make recording during playback."
I left it on the headset, and did the audio playback.? I got nothing.? So should I have changed the settings back to the CODEX or left it on the speaker at that point?? After that, I changed it back to my CODEX and tried again.? Now I have nothing.? It will throw a carrier, but no modulation.
Ok, I changed the configuration in FLDigi to use FLRig(2.0.05), not Hamlib.? Switching to Hamlib was the only thing I had changed in my quest, so I went back to FLRig.? Obviously FLDigi doesn't like the Hamlib for some reason, but I eliminated that.
I did a test of the radio then using VarAC, successful.
Ok, brought up FLDigi/FLRig.? Tuned to an appropriate freq, transmitted CQ.? The radio successfully transmitted the CQ.? Here is a screen capture of my FLDigi.
So, the issue isn't with my CODEX or windows settings.? It has to be that I have screwed up the actual controls of FLDigi from the main screen.? I have tried to play with the various sliders and controls along the bottom with no change to the waterfall.? And there are so many other modes discussed in the manual that I have not successfully figured out the correct settings for RTTY.? Hell, I can't even get someone to give me a straight answer on what mode the FT-710 is supposed to be in, LSB, Data L, or RTTY L (though this makes sense for bandpass) but without a waterfall to track in and try to receive, all I have is the waterfall on the radio, that has not been successful.
So there I am.
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 07:02:13 PM EST, Robert, KK5VD via groups.io <kk5vd@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows] A little more information is required to assist. What OS version do you have. Did you change the OS version from the last time it worked. What version of FLDIGI are you using. You can get garbage output in the absents of a signal, that does not necessarily mean anything other then to say that the squelch is set low (Radio and/or FLDIGI). Here is a simple test to rule out a few things. Under Configure->Soundcard->Device settings (FLDIGI) select "Microphone" for Capture and "Speakers" for playback. Place any headset/speakers to the computer with volume turned up in order to listen. Copy this (following text, between the ----- lines) ------------------------ To be on not to be that is the question ^r ------------------------ Paste it into the transmit panel. Do not hit transmit button yet, and turn off the connected transmitter if it's on. From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate". When it asks for a save location, note file name and save it to the desktop. Press the T/R (on FLDIGI). Do you hear digital audio output from the speakers/headset and see a digital signal on the waterfall? From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate" a second time (turning it off). Do not change the modem used to make recording during playback. From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->Playback" locate the audio file saved. Default name: generate.wav on desktop. Once found mouse click the file, and press open. You will be asked if you want play the file indefinitely, your call as to which. Do you see a digital signal on the water fall that matches what you sent? In the RX panel do you see the following text? "To be on not to be that is the question". Select "File->Audio->Playback" a second time to disable indefinite playback.? If you have a microphone connected, when speaking into it do you see any changes in the waterfall that a signal is present and correlates with your speaking? If so, then the likely issue follows: The Audio capture/playback device is not set to the correct device. Which might imply, ? ? a) Select the correct audio device from the configure dialog (FLDIGI). ? ? b) You need to set permission for FLDIGI to have access to said device. ? ? c) You need a device driver is order have access to said device. ? ? d) Cable/Interface that connects between your radio and computer is; missing, loosely connected, or defective is some fashion. ? ? e) The radio is not set to take input/output from the computer interface. (Edit:Added)
Don't know how much more I can assist you as I'm a hand on person in order to troubleshoot issues. But, let me know if you need help on the stated corrective suggestions.
Robert
|
First off, thank you so much for taking the time to try to help me.
The FLDigi version is 4.2.06, I am running Windows 11 and it has not changed.? The FT-710 uses the RF Gain/SQL.? RF gain is at max.? I'm not using the pre-amps at this time, only IPO.
I changed the audio settings as requested.
I did the TX Generate, saved it the desktop.? Then hit transmit.? I got the RTTY in my headset, and the text appears in red in the sent pane.? There was nothing on the waterfall at all.? However, it did save the audio file and I confirmed it by playing it outside of FLDigi.? The audio in the bar at the bottom does respond appropriately when I transmitted it.? It also responded if I talked into the mic.
Now here is where I get confused.? You instructions were:
"Do not change the modem used to make recording during playback."
I left it on the headset, and did the audio playback.? I got nothing.? So should I have changed the settings back to the CODEX or left it on the speaker at that point?? After that, I changed it back to my CODEX and tried again.? Now I have nothing.? It will throw a carrier, but no modulation.
Ok, I changed the configuration in FLDigi to use FLRig(2.0.05), not Hamlib.? Switching to Hamlib was the only thing I had changed in my quest, so I went back to FLRig.? Obviously FLDigi doesn't like the Hamlib for some reason, but I eliminated that.
I did a test of the radio then using VarAC, successful.
Ok, brought up FLDigi/FLRig.? Tuned to an appropriate freq, transmitted CQ.? The radio successfully transmitted the CQ.? Here is a screen capture of my FLDigi.
So, the issue isn't with my CODEX or windows settings.? It has to be that I have screwed up the actual controls of FLDigi from the main screen.? I have tried to play with the various sliders and controls along the bottom with no change to the waterfall.? And there are so many other modes discussed in the manual that I have not successfully figured out the correct settings for RTTY.? Hell, I can't even get someone to give me a straight answer on what mode the FT-710 is supposed to be in, LSB, Data L, or RTTY L (though this makes sense for bandpass) but without a waterfall to track in and try to receive, all I have is the waterfall on the radio, that has not been successful.
So there I am.
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 07:02:13 PM EST, Robert, KK5VD via groups.io <kk5vd@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows] A little more information is required to assist. What OS version do you have. Did you change the OS version from the last time it worked. What version of FLDIGI are you using. You can get garbage output in the absents of a signal, that does not necessarily mean anything other then to say that the squelch is set low (Radio and/or FLDIGI). Here is a simple test to rule out a few things. Under Configure->Soundcard->Device settings (FLDIGI) select "Microphone" for Capture and "Speakers" for playback. Place any headset/speakers to the computer with volume turned up in order to listen. Copy this (following text, between the ----- lines) ------------------------ To be on not to be that is the question ^r ------------------------ Paste it into the transmit panel. Do not hit transmit button yet, and turn off the connected transmitter if it's on. From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate". When it asks for a save location, note file name and save it to the desktop. Press the T/R (on FLDIGI). Do you hear digital audio output from the speakers/headset and see a digital signal on the waterfall? From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate" a second time (turning it off). Do not change the modem used to make recording during playback. From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->Playback" locate the audio file saved. Default name: generate.wav on desktop. Once found mouse click the file, and press open. You will be asked if you want play the file indefinitely, your call as to which. Do you see a digital signal on the water fall that matches what you sent? In the RX panel do you see the following text? "To be on not to be that is the question". Select "File->Audio->Playback" a second time to disable indefinite playback.? If you have a microphone connected, when speaking into it do you see any changes in the waterfall that a signal is present and correlates with your speaking? If so, then the likely issue follows: The Audio capture/playback device is not set to the correct device. Which might imply, ? ? a) Select the correct audio device from the configure dialog (FLDIGI). ? ? b) You need to set permission for FLDIGI to have access to said device. ? ? c) You need a device driver is order have access to said device. ? ? d) Cable/Interface that connects between your radio and computer is; missing, loosely connected, or defective is some fashion. ? ? e) The radio is not set to take input/output from the computer interface. (Edit:Added)
Don't know how much more I can assist you as I'm a hand on person in order to troubleshoot issues. But, let me know if you need help on the stated corrective suggestions.
Robert
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Windows unattended install options for flrig/fldigi
Hi,
Is there any possibility to add unattended install to windows flrig/fldigi? I ran the latest setup.exe's with /? or -? and could not find anything there or in the manual. Maybe I overlooked something?
Thanks!
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I am getting audio, I have selected the CODEX, and FLDigi will transmit a RTTY CQ
73
Stephen Maley KQ4QWH Coats, NC
On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 06:21:27 PM EST, Dave Garber via groups.io <ve3wej@...> wrote:
If this helps Hamlin is for cat control.? Decodes come from selecting the correct audio feeds.? (Audio codec)? this depends on your radio
sent by ve3wej on samsung s21+
I have been trying to get FLDigi to work for months.? I have watched youtube videos until my brain has turned to mush.? I have gone through the user manual.? I have reached out to my local club Elmers and they all said they couldn't help (no knowledge).
?
I have it working with the radio using Hamlib.? All I get is garbled crap.? I get nothing on the waterfall now, I used to, but now nada.
?
There are just some fundamental things that I just haven't grasped.
?
I have FT8/4, JS8, Winlink(on HF) and VarAC all working just fine.? So all the rig/CAT and com settings I have a grip on.
?
I guess I'm hoping for someone close to me here in Eastern North Carolina or someone who is willing to spend some time on the phone with me.? This doesn't have to happen today (as there is a contest running), after months, what is another few days.....
?
If there is an Elmer out there willing to hold my hand, I would sure appreciate it.
?
73,
Steve
KQ4QWH
?
?
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A little more information is required to assist.
What OS version do you have. Did you change the OS version from the last time it worked.
What version of FLDIGI are you using.
You can get garbage output in the absents of a signal, that does not necessarily mean anything other then to say that the squelch is set low (Radio and/or FLDIGI).
Here is a simple test to rule out a few things.
Under Configure->Soundcard->Device settings (FLDIGI) select "Microphone" for Capture and "Speakers" for playback.
Place any headset/speakers to the computer with volume turned up in order to listen.
Copy this (following text, between the ----- lines)
------------------------
To be on not to be that is the question ^r
------------------------
Paste it into the transmit panel.
Do not hit transmit button yet, and turn off the connected transmitter if it's on.
From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate". When it asks for a save location, note file name and save it to the desktop.
Press the T/R (on FLDIGI).
Do you hear digital audio output from the speakers/headset and see a digital signal on the waterfall?
From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->TX generate" a second time (turning it off).
Do not change the modem used to make recording during playback.
From the FLDIGI's menu select "File->Audio->Playback" locate the audio file saved. Default name: generate.wav on desktop. Once found mouse click the file, and press open.
You will be asked if you want play the file indefinitely, your call as to which.
Do you see a digital signal on the water fall that matches what you sent? In the RX panel do you see the following text? "To be on not to be that is the question".
Select "File->Audio->Playback" a second time to disable indefinite playback.
If you have a microphone connected, when speaking into it do you see any changes in the waterfall that a signal is present and correlates with your speaking?
If so, then the likely issue follows:
The Audio capture/playback device is not set to the correct device.
Which might imply,
a) Select the correct audio device from the configure dialog (FLDIGI).
b) You need to set permission for FLDIGI to have access to said device.
c) You need a device driver is order have access to said device.
d) Cable/Interface that connects between your radio and computer is; missing, loosely connected, or defective is some fashion.
e) The radio is not set to take input/output from the computer interface. (Edit:Added)
Don't know how much more I can assist you as I'm a hand on person in order to troubleshoot issues. But, let me know if you need help on the stated corrective suggestions.
Robert
|
If this helps Hamlin is for cat control.? Decodes come from selecting the correct audio feeds.? (Audio codec)? this depends on your radio
sent by ve3wej on samsung s21+
I have been trying to get FLDigi to work for months.? I have watched youtube videos until my brain has turned to mush.? I have gone through the user manual.? I have reached out to my local club Elmers and they all said they couldn't help (no knowledge).
?
I have it working with the radio using Hamlib.? All I get is garbled crap.? I get nothing on the waterfall now, I used to, but now nada.
?
There are just some fundamental things that I just haven't grasped.
?
I have FT8/4, JS8, Winlink(on HF) and VarAC all working just fine.? So all the rig/CAT and com settings I have a grip on.
?
I guess I'm hoping for someone close to me here in Eastern North Carolina or someone who is willing to spend some time on the phone with me.? This doesn't have to happen today (as there is a contest running), after months, what is another few days.....
?
If there is an Elmer out there willing to hold my hand, I would sure appreciate it.
?
73,
Steve
KQ4QWH
?
?
|
I have been trying to get FLDigi to work for months.? I have watched youtube videos until my brain has turned to mush.? I have gone through the user manual.? I have reached out to my local club Elmers and they all said they couldn't help (no knowledge).
?
I have it working with the radio using Hamlib.? All I get is garbled crap.? I get nothing on the waterfall now, I used to, but now nada.
?
There are just some fundamental things that I just haven't grasped.
?
I have FT8/4, JS8, Winlink(on HF) and VarAC all working just fine.? So all the rig/CAT and com settings I have a grip on.
?
I guess I'm hoping for someone close to me here in Eastern North Carolina or someone who is willing to spend some time on the phone with me.? This doesn't have to happen today (as there is a contest running), after months, what is another few days.....
?
If there is an Elmer out there willing to hold my hand, I would sure appreciate it.
?
73,
Steve
KQ4QWH
?
?
|
Re: CQ WW RTTY WPX Contest: 0000Z, Feb 8 to 2359Z, Feb 9
I have been doing digital on this rig and PC a long time.
To ensure the USB settings aren't confused with the PC mic and speaker, I renamed them to From_Rig and To_Rig.
I am fairly familiar since I run the same setup with my 7300 in Texas, the only difference here is the Digirig and the FT-891.
At this point I will try using a different rig control vs Flrig..
I am still confused by RTTY-L & U as RTTY is lower based on my experience..
The manual does not even address RTTY-L&U.
This is from the manual?
"You must operate your transceiver in the USB mode for the fldigi RTTY signal to be the correct polarity. If your transceiver is set to LSB then use the fldigi "Rev" button to reverse the sense of the mark and space signals."
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Re: AFC Button greyed out / drift
Hello David,
Thank you, and what you describe is what I had (or rather would have) assumed, too! And it's the reason why I could not answer Kim's e-mail right away, when he stated, that he was entirely unable to switch this 'veering AFC' off, because the AFC button just is not active.
But for his recent SW Radiogram programs, Kim only used MFSK32 and MFSK64. So the chosen mode just cannot be the culprit anyways.
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I wondered, without knowing whether this might offer a clue, whether at some point (no idea, when) in the fldigi update history, when the per-mode-AFC-settings were introduced (Menu - Config - Misc - Save Parameters: AFC control), the AFC setting(s) storage may have been re-defined (to allow this individualized mode) in the config file, and that a later update may have gone astray between a (former) global and the (then) per-mode settings, possibly when the user updated fldigi skipping several revisions. Well, just an assumption, but even so, I cannot tell, what exactly may have gone wrong in Kim's case.
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On the other hand, I just tested fldigi ver4.2.06.24 (a separate 'thumb drive' style install), switching modes and even to the ones you have mentioned (DominoEX, Thor, FSQ, IFKP, MT63), the AFC Button NEVER greys out! In fact, it readily allows AFC ON/OFF clicking and toggles the 'light' state accordingly. This is not what I would have expected.
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Experiment (fldigi ver4.2.06.24):
I know quite well (and have experienced this listening to QSOs) what you mean regarding VFO chasing, but this is not what we had observed. Please take a moment and follow this example sequence, following a fresh fldigi launch:
0. Set the MFSK AFC LPF to 200, which should be the default anyway (Menu - Config - Modem - MFSK: 200).
1. Switch SQL OFF and pull the SQL slider all the way UP (top position!). I know this doesn't really make any sense, but I'll explain it below.
2. Do not feed any valid MFSK64 audio into fldigi, at least not within the catch range of the AFC, e.g. by keeping the level input audio low or off, any noise floor will do.
3. Switch to MFSK64 (visualizing the effect may be faster for such a fast mode).
4. Set the center frequency to 1500 Hz exactly.
5. Wait a minute. Some gibberish shows up in the Rx screen, nothing unusual.
6. Check the center frequency: it's unchanged at 1500 Hz, spot-on. Great!
7. Switch AFC ON.
8. Wait a minute. More gibberish shows up in the Rx screen, nothing unusual.
9. Check the center frequency: see what I mean? No? Right, it's still unchanged at 1500 Hz, spot-on, and doesn't move an inch. Still great, just as expected!
10. Now pull the SQL slider all the way DOWN (bottom limit position!).
11. Wait a minute. More gibberish shows up in the Rx screen. And - the center frequency (I also call it 'offset') suddenly starts moving about!
12. After about 1 minute, it had already drifted off by -50 Hz (to the left, this time). After 2 minutes, it was in the 1200 Hz range, still veering further off...
13. Try to toggle SQL ON / OFF and try to pull the SQL slider up to the green bar threshold: as expected, if 'ON' it affects the gibberish showing (or not, if 'OFF', as expected), but regardless of the SQL toggle state, it also impacts the AFC induced frequency offset drifting.
14. Now pull the SQL slider all the way UP again (top position!), SQL ON or OFF doesn't matter here, as it's well above the green signal bar now.
15. Wait a minute. More gibberish shows up in the Rx screen, nothing unusual. And the frequency offset, with AFC ON, stays put where it last stopped!
16. I repeated the above from step 10 and now the AFC started veering off to higher frequencies, while switched ON.
I would rather expect AFC to stay on the spot unless it senses a valid signal within its catch range of a few Hz.
17. If you care, try setting the MFSK LPF to 2 (the minimum) and watch the rapid AFC oscillations, rather 'out of control', and the resulting drift off the previous offset!
Conclusion:
Quite unexpectedly, the SQL slider setting (not the SQL toggle state!) directly affects the AFC behavior, allowing or inhibiting the unintentional AFC drift.
In Kim's screenshot, the slider is somewhere in the middle, so if he played back some audio while compiling his program, the AFC may well have started waking up and do the 'drift thing', as he has experienced and reported, calling the experience of the new version 'frustrating'.
As a quick fix, I will ask him to pull the SQL slider all the way up and check, whether the unwanted AFC veering stops.
Now all this does not explain why Kim's fldigi has the AFC button grayed out (thus non-reacting), and why mine, quite the opposite, doesn't grey out the AFC Button in any mode: I have tried all I could access via the mouse wheel or from the Op Mode Menu, it always remains active and allows to toggle its state. Something appears to be a bit off or at least non-intuitive, I would say.
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But now get this: I didn't really think this might explain it, but, of course, at some point, I had transferred part of my 'personal' config files into the (otherwise independent) thumb drive installation. So I thought, I'd better double-check, whether I really told 'nothing but the truth' up there. So I renamed (disabled) my previous thumb drive installation and made an all-new one, fresh from the 'fldigi-4.2.06.24_setup.exe'. Followed the few instructions, done, all only merely using the setup-included default config settings etc.
I started fldigi - and the AFC Button was, in fact, greyed out, not reacting to input, just like on Kim's screenshot!
And, with the SQL slider in a lower position, enough to get activated, the AFC started drifting again, just like what I'd seen and described above.
I attach 4 annotated screenshots, there's a time reference in the upper right corner, showing the respective (Central European) time and the fldigi screen.
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David, please let me know what you think and whether you are able to reproduce this behavior. And if so, is this considered a topic to be fixed, or just some operator error, which can be overcome by proper control of the software...?
Thank you very much in advance!
Best regards
Tobias
.-.-. Am Freitag, 7. Februar 2025 um 20:24:06 MEZ hat Dave via groups.io <w1hkj25@...> Folgendes geschrieben:
The AFC button is grayed out ONLY if the modem in use does not employ AFC.? This will be true for all DominoEX, Thor, FSQ, IFKP, MT63, etc.? The kind of drift reported is usually caused by VFO offset chasing.? The easiest way to resolve this is to have one or more of the stations "lock" the transmit audio frequency.? This is a common user originated problem.
David
Hello Drew,
You are right, but this screenshot was taken while compiling 'TX generate' a radiogram, thus it was normal to not see an input signal.
The problem rather is the 'impossibility' to De-Activate AFC, which, if active, causes a slow up-drift of the audio frequency, nominally 1500 Hz. Drift is most unfavorable while compiling a program for a broad audience who expect the offset to be precise at all times.
My question thus is twofold:
How to switch off a greyed out (but activated) AFC.
How to avoid the AFC drift while idling without a 'guiding' received signal being present.
I'm lost, not knowing the answers...
73s Tobias
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Am Freitag, 7. Februar 2025 um 16:00:59 MEZ hat Drew via <drinella= [email protected]> Folgendes geschrieben:
The diamond shaped indicator - to the left of the afc button - being black tells me there is something wrong with your incoming audio to the computer. The audio volume is too low. I don't know if that is related to the afc being grayed out, but it will also prevent you from decoding anything properly.?
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Re: CQ WW RTTY WPX Contest: 0000Z, Feb 8 to 2359Z, Feb 9
I believe fldigi will do afsk.? Not sure of fsk.?
sent by ve3wej on samsung s21+
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025, 4:25?p.m. William Schrader via <wtschrader= [email protected]> wrote: Ed..
I'm not at home at the moment but here's a thought:
Check the setups where you define FLDIGI as the client of FLRIG.
Second, go the Device Mgr and see that the Audio menu shows the correct CODECS.
t
Then, go to lower right of Desktop and choose Sound settings by clicking the speaker icon. Scroll through to see that the PC is using the audio codec for both "speaker" and "Mic"
Under the mic part, be sure that the mic icon doesn't have a slash through it. If it does, click to turn on the mic.
Others may chime in, but I'll watch this thread and recontact you from my rig.
Good luck
73
Bill K2TNO
Hello, a bit frustrated here..I thought I would try this weekend with my FT-891. I am in Belize and have never used my 891 on RTTY.
The current equipment is a Windows 11 PC, FT891, and a digirig. I have used JS8call, WSJT-x, VARAC, digital modes, no problem.
Flrig 2.0.0.4 is my rig control and love it.
FLdigi 4.2.06 I use for keyboard CW, Wefax and so on.
However I am stumped, the online manual for RTTY is for an older version of Fldigi.
Here is what happens in different modes with FLrig and Fldigi
RTTY-45 - op mode
FLdigi set on USB - "per the manual" - nothing happens., no audio
FLdigi set on RTTY-L , solid tone?
FLdigi set on RTTY-U, solid tone
Fldigi set on Data-U no tones
NOW,
If I have Flrig off, then FLdigi only shows RTTY as option but again no tone nothing goes.
Anyone out there got a working configuration?
73's
V31XE
Ed
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Re: CQ WW RTTY WPX Contest: 0000Z, Feb 8 to 2359Z, Feb 9
Ed..
I'm not at home at the moment but here's a thought:
Check the setups where you define FLDIGI as the client of FLRIG.
Second, go the Device Mgr and see that the Audio menu shows the correct CODECS.
t
Then, go to lower right of Desktop and choose Sound settings by clicking the speaker icon. Scroll through to see that the PC is using the audio codec for both "speaker" and "Mic"
Under the mic part, be sure that the mic icon doesn't have a slash through it. If it does, click to turn on the mic.
Others may chime in, but I'll watch this thread and recontact you from my rig.
Good luck
73
Bill K2TNO
Hello, a bit frustrated here..I thought I would try this weekend with my FT-891. I am in Belize and have never used my 891 on RTTY.
The current equipment is a Windows 11 PC, FT891, and a digirig. I have used JS8call, WSJT-x, VARAC, digital modes, no problem.
Flrig 2.0.0.4 is my rig control and love it.
FLdigi 4.2.06 I use for keyboard CW, Wefax and so on.
However I am stumped, the online manual for RTTY is for an older version of Fldigi.
Here is what happens in different modes with FLrig and Fldigi
RTTY-45 - op mode
FLdigi set on USB - "per the manual" - nothing happens., no audio
FLdigi set on RTTY-L , solid tone?
FLdigi set on RTTY-U, solid tone
Fldigi set on Data-U no tones
NOW,
If I have Flrig off, then FLdigi only shows RTTY as option but again no tone nothing goes.
Anyone out there got a working configuration?
73's
V31XE
Ed
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Re: Earlier Version of Fldigi
Jack,?
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I found that the Microphone Array? Reltek Audio volume was set to around 25%. I brought it up to 100% and lowered the Signal range and upper signal level values.? And now (which I don't like) is the 7300 speaker volume also effects the water fall signal level.?
So the radio volume is too loud. When I transit, the sound comes out the laptop speakers. The laptop microphone picks up back ground sound and I see it on the water fall.
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I believe the only way to remedy all these problems is to install windows 10.
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The windows Input volume for 2-USB Audio CODEC is at 100%.
I set it 50% but didn't have effect on signal in the water fall.
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CQ WW RTTY WPX Contest: 0000Z, Feb 8 to 2359Z, Feb 9
Hello, a bit frustrated here..I thought I would try this weekend with my FT-891. I am in Belize and have never used my 891 on RTTY.
The current equipment is a Windows 11 PC, FT891, and a digirig. I have used JS8call, WSJT-x, VARAC, digital modes, no problem.
Flrig 2.0.0.4 is my rig control and love it.
FLdigi 4.2.06 I use for keyboard CW, Wefax and so on.
However I am stumped, the online manual for RTTY is for an older version of Fldigi.
Here is what happens in different modes with FLrig and Fldigi
RTTY-45 - op mode
FLdigi set on USB - "per the manual" - nothing happens., no audio
FLdigi set on RTTY-L , solid tone?
FLdigi set on RTTY-U, solid tone
Fldigi set on Data-U no tones
NOW,
If I have Flrig off, then FLdigi only shows RTTY as option but again no tone nothing goes.
Anyone out there got a working configuration?
73's
V31XE
Ed
?
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Re: AFC Button greyed out / drift
The AFC button is grayed out ONLY if the modem in use does not employ AFC.? This will be true for all DominoEX, Thor, FSQ, IFKP, MT63, etc.? The kind of drift reported is usually caused by VFO offset chasing.? The easiest way to resolve this is to have one or more of the stations "lock" the transmit audio frequency.? This is a common user originated problem.
David
Hello Drew,
You are right, but this screenshot was taken while compiling 'TX generate' a radiogram, thus it was normal to not see an input signal.
The problem rather is the 'impossibility' to De-Activate AFC, which, if active, causes a slow up-drift of the audio frequency, nominally 1500 Hz. Drift is most unfavorable while compiling a program for a broad audience who expect the offset to be precise at all times.
My question thus is twofold:
How to switch off a greyed out (but activated) AFC.
How to avoid the AFC drift while idling without a 'guiding' received signal being present.
I'm lost, not knowing the answers...
73s Tobias
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Am Freitag, 7. Februar 2025 um 16:00:59 MEZ hat Drew via <drinella= [email protected]> Folgendes geschrieben:
The diamond shaped indicator - to the left of the afc button - being black tells me there is something wrong with your incoming audio to the computer. The audio volume is too low. I don't know if that is related to the afc being grayed out, but it will also prevent you from decoding anything properly.?
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Re: AFC Button greyed out / drift
Hello Drew,
You are right, but this screenshot was taken while compiling 'TX generate' a radiogram, thus it was normal to not see an input signal.
The problem rather is the 'impossibility' to De-Activate AFC, which, if active, causes a slow up-drift of the audio frequency, nominally 1500 Hz. Drift is most unfavorable while compiling a program for a broad audience who expect the offset to be precise at all times.
My question thus is twofold:
How to switch off a greyed out (but activated) AFC.
How to avoid the AFC drift while idling without a 'guiding' received signal being present.
I'm lost, not knowing the answers...
73s Tobias
.-.-.
Am Freitag, 7. Februar 2025 um 16:00:59 MEZ hat Drew via groups.io <drinella@...> Folgendes geschrieben:
The diamond shaped indicator - to the left of the afc button - being black tells me there is something wrong with your incoming audio to the computer. The audio volume is too low. I don't know if that is related to the afc being grayed out, but it will also prevent you from decoding anything properly.?
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Re: AFC Button greyed out / drift
The diamond shaped indicator - to the left of the afc button - being black tells me there is something wrong with your incoming audio to the computer. The audio volume is too low. I don't know if that is related to the afc being grayed out, but it will also prevent you from decoding anything properly.?
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Re: Earlier Version of Fldigi
Run that -47? value to around -10 and the right number to 60
N4VAD
My laptop is an ASUS VivoBook intel Core i7.
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Jack, With your last instructions, things got better.
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I had to increase these values higher than I have to in windows 10 in order to see a signal in the water fall.
But being able to use the program is much better now.
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Re: Earlier Version of Fldigi
Hi Ken,
Great to see there is progress! I am not familiar with the ASUS
laptops.
My fldigi setup uses the Upper Signal Level setting at -5dB and
the Signal range at 80dB. Where you show -47dB and 51dB
respectively. I am pretty sure you need a wider Signal range (that
is dynamic range I think). The -47 dB setting on mine totally
fills my screen with dark orange-red hash.
What is your Windows Input Volume level setting for 2-USB Audio
CODEC? Mine is set to 50%.
Interested to know about that. If it is all the way up to maximum,
something else is going on in the signal path.
A SWAG: Some RealTek and Microsoft sound device implementations
have a system wide output attenuator (IIRC a mixer setting, the
headphone ear protection setting, or something like that) if you
find that sort of thing, make sure it is not turned on.
Have you tried transmitting yet?
What is your Windows Output Volume level
setting for 2-USB Audio CODEC? Mine is set to 100%.
In the later case, I control the sound level by dialing back the
fldigi Tx Level Attenuator to -24dB with my 7300 is set for 100%
power. That combination yields about 35 - 40W out with a minimal
(nil) ALC reading. When I drive my amplifier, I dial back even
farther to about -28db - that gives me a clean 350 - 400W out.
Hope we can help get you to the next step.
Jack Spitznagel
KD4IZ FM19oo
Parkton, MD
On 2/6/2025 8:34 PM, Ken Smith via
groups.io wrote:
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My laptop is an ASUS VivoBook intel Core i7.
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Jack, With your last instructions, things got better.
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I had to increase these values higher than I have to in
windows 10 in order to see a signal in the water fall.
But being able to use the program is much better now.
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Ron NY3J
Ed Terry
Ken Smith
Dave
Drew
Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)