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Re: fldigi 4.2.06 delay dropping PTT after TX with HT
Thanks for the reply...I am using COM port to toggle, configured in fldigi Hardware PTT.
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~R~ On 2025-03-31 09:54:, Dave Garber via groups.io wrote:
is this with a vhf/uhf HT or hf HT??� � are you using vox to key |
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Re: fldigi 4.2.06 delay dropping PTT after TX with HT
Tobias
Thanks for a) recommending the audio file. I have not used it in the past, and forgot about it. b) the config menu. It turns out that I already have ending RSID OFF. For personal reasons, I took several months off doing emergency comms, and am now getting back to work. First on my list is making sure all my gear is ready, and I know what I am doing. I am testing with 2 radios. Kenwood F6, V/UHF HT, TX, set to 0.05W...min to do the task Kenwood V71, mobile, RX The HT is here in the shack. The V71 antenna is on the mast. I experimented. The attached wav file "fldigi toggle TR 20250331d.wav" is the smallest I think represents what I see. After toggle TR>T, I waited until the preamble, whatever it is, ended, then toggled TR>R. From the time I toggle TR >R, to the HT TX light going out, is ~2.2s. I am not nearly as concerned at this point as I was when it was 5-6s. I am now running the same way I usually do. Turning on TXID, with trailing RSID off, still gives me an acceptable 2 s hang on PTT. I don't see any option in fldigi that can reduce that. On 2025-03-31 09:39:, SWL Tobias via groups.io wrote: Depending on the DigiMode you have tried, there may also generally be some kind of preamble / postamble being auto-appended, even without any text. For example in the Thor and classic MFSK modes, there are these little SOT / EOT characters that 'frame' the actual text, and thus, even without any TX text, they will always be transmitted, which takes a little time. Or in the Olivia family modes, the alternating lo/hi/lo/hi tone sequence will (unless deactivated on purpose) be sent prior to and after ending any transmission.Thanks for that. I will make a note to review this. I am using BPSK125. No reason. Just grabbed it for testing. NOW...sadly, I am back to exactly the usual config I run, and I don't see the 5+s delay to drop PTT. HOWEVER...I now think that my "problem" was that I had TXID ON. I wasna waiting long enough for the preamble to end, and I'd toggle TR>R. Of course, fldigi would finish sending the RSID, then end. That sequence is ~5s, so I can make an argument for it. I can't duplicate the delay during normal ops /now/, so I will have to conclude this is solved, until it pops up again, if it does. I have gone thru a number of trials, including laptop Restart, to make sure that there is no mysterious state being preserved. Still 2s of hang time on PTT. OTOH, no problem. 5s, yes, problem. 2s, no. OTOH, why does it take 2 s? Just curious. 73 Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua |
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Re: fldigi 4.2.06 delay dropping PTT after TX with HT
Hi Rich, Maybe it's easiest to 'Menu - File - Audio - TX generate' a short wav file with the respective audio produced by FLdigi. Before using the audio file, make sure to repeat the same Menu command to STOP generating (once done). Then send the file over, given you don't transmit anything (intentionally), it can't be that huge and should be easy enough to attach to your next e-mail. If you see an influence of RSID being toggled, you might have (inadvertently) activated the 'EOT ID' function, which is often a cause for trouble and, IMHO, doesn't help at all if activated. It sends, if active, a second RSID *after* ending your transmission. See the attached screenshot showing this setting, which I'd always recommend to keep turned OFF to avoid such side-effects and confusion on the air. Depending on the DigiMode you have tried, there may also generally be some kind of preamble / postamble being auto-appended, even without any text. For example in the Thor and classic MFSK modes, there are these little SOT / EOT characters that 'frame' the actual text, and thus, even without any TX text, they will always be transmitted, which takes a little time. Or in the Olivia family modes, the alternating lo/hi/lo/hi tone sequence will (unless deactivated on purpose) be sent prior to and after ending any transmission. That's why I have recommended to record (FLdigi generate) the audio in the mode you have been using and share it for further analysis. 73s and best regards Tobias .-.-. Am Montag, 31. M盲rz 2025 um 14:49:17 MESZ hat Rich NE1EE via groups.io <thedustykey@...> Folgendes geschrieben: I found most of the delay. I automatically turn on RXID and TXID in my macros to select the modem protocol. So fldigi must send the ID at the start of the transmission. Not sure why it then sends something at the //end// of the transmission, though. Perhaps an essential part of closing the RSID protocol? BUT...turning off RXID and TXID reduces the time to drop PTT from 5s to 2.2 s, so that is OK. And it means that PTT will always be held on after a transmission, if TXID is ON. 73 Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua |
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fldigi 4.2.06 delay dropping PTT after TX with HT
I found most of the delay.
I automatically turn on RXID and TXID in my macros to select the modem protocol. So fldigi must send the ID at the start of the transmission. Not sure why it then sends something at the //end// of the transmission, though. Perhaps an essential part of closing the RSID protocol? BUT...turning off RXID and TXID reduces the time to drop PTT from 5s to 2.2 s, so that is OK. And it means that PTT will always be held on after a transmission, if TXID is ON. 73 Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua |
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What does fldigi 4.2.06 send when T/R is toggled?
If TXID (and RXID, I suppose, though it shouldn't have an effect) is turned off, and I toggle T/R, I see fldigi TX something at the beginning and the end. I don't have anything in the TX pane to send.
It seems to send something, then a bunch of nothing (expected, because there is naught to send), then when I toggle T/R off, fldigi sends another brief "something". 73 Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua |
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fldigi 4.2.06 delay dropping PTT after TX with HT
I am using a digirig 1.9.
Windows 10 fldigi 4.2.06 If I select Tune, when I toggle it off, PTT drops within 1 s. If I toggle T/R with no data to send (just for testing), the delay is there after I toggled T/R > R. The delay is 5-6 s by stopwatch. It was repeatable for many tests. I have all the fldigi delays = 0 where I know to look. I seem to recall that in the past there was no delay...I can check earlier versions. I havna checked this with a mobile. I didn't think to check other HTs, because I figured they are all the same, AND Tune drops PTT immediately. I didna find this on the forum recently, for the searches I could think of. 73 Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua |
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Re: Hide TX Section of the FLDigi Screen
I don't have mine handy, but ISTR that all you do is drag the divider...
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73 Rich NE1EE The Dusty Key On the banks of the Piscataqua On 2025-03-30 02:13:, George Stein - NJ3H via groups.io wrote:
It would be nice if there was an option to hide the TX portion of the screen to allow more room for RX traffic. |
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Hide TX Section of the FLDigi Screen
It would be nice if there was an option to hide the TX portion of the screen to allow more room for RX traffic.
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I am not doing any transmitting and I am sure other hams and SWL folks just might desire more receive room on the screen.听 I already have set Rig/Log Controls to None.
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Whoever the powers to be are, please consider this.
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Thanks very much.听 This is a great program.
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George, NJ3H
Redmond, Oregon USA |
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Re: Fldigi UI has me flummoxed
Thanks again Robert. I was trying to help a friend. The blind leading the blind, with the ignorant for consultation.听馃槈 Bill On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 4:14鈥疨M Robert, KK5VD via <kk5vd=[email protected]> wrote: Bill, |
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Re: Fldigi UI has me flummoxed
Don and Robert, You're the best. Thanks.听 Robert, you answered听the question I didn't even ask, but was thinking about! Bill On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 2:58鈥疨M Robert, KK5VD via <kk5vd=[email protected]> wrote: Under Fldigi Configuration->Configure->UI->General is a checkbox in the upper left hand side of the dialog box named "Show tool tips". Make sure this is selected. Hover the cursor over the UI in question for a few seconds. A text message should pop up with some additional information about the UI. Sadly in this particular case it seems it doesn't show a tool tip for the widgets is question. I realize this doesn't help you in this case, but info for other UI widgets. |
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Re: Fldigi UI has me flummoxed
This depends on the rig and the rig control听software being used. In general, the left hand field displays the mode of the rig IF this is handled by rg ctonrl software. In general the right hand field would be filter width听IF filter width is controlled by the rig control software. On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 3:16鈥疨M Bill KD9TWA via <kd9twa=[email protected]> wrote:
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Fldigi UI has me flummoxed
I have a super basic question. What is the section of the UI called that contains the frequency window, the logging area, etc., and specifically, the mode and bandwidth section called? It's the area between the header and the macro section.听
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I'm looking for a description of all听of the functions in that area. Without knowing the correct nomenclature, I can't search. Is there an image that has ball-notes for each item/button?
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Rich NE1EE
George Stein - NJ3H
Bill KD9TWA