Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Chris,
Maybe one more thing to try out.
If the green bar moves, the audio is ok, but as soon as any text should appear, it locks up, is what I read.
So could it be linked to text logging? Please check the settings under config | misc | Rx text capture. Uncheck 'Enable rx text stream'. Not much hope though, fldigi even continues when fldigi.files/text/textout.txt is write protected. There is another one of this kind under File | Text Capture | Log all Rx/Tx text. Uncheck this one for a try.
Finally, have you even consulted the Help | Event Log? Any errors / warnings reported there? If unaccessible when locked up, close FLdigi. An event log is also kept under fldigi.files/status_log.txt - any hints of an issue there?
Good Luck,Chris!
73s Tobias
.-.-. Am Samstag, 10. August 2024 um 19:44:44 MESZ hat Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ) <kd4iz@...> Folgendes geschrieben:
Cliff is on the path as is Drew. M$ is notorious for installing crapware as part of the OS. Kill process and disable the One Cloud app, XBox app, any other stuff you don¡¯t need that autoloads on boot up. Look at anything that grabs the sound devices.?
Do not configure fldigi or flrig to use the ¡°M$-anything¡± devices they like to own the interface and can do unpredictable things with the audiostream as well as lock the COM ports from shared use. The M$ stuff is optimized for gaming apps. 73 KD4IZ On Aug 10, 2024, at 13:24, Cliff <ae5zaham@...> wrote:
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Chris,
One other thing to eliminate a fldigi issue is to rename the fldigi.files directory. Go to C:\Users\<your login name>\fldigi.files directory and rename the fldigi.prefs file to something else like fldigi1.prefs. Then start fldigi and try to decode. If that works then you should be good. If not then back in the same directory rename the fldigi_def.xml file to something else. Now start fldigi and you'll have to do a basic setup and test if it decodes correctly. If so then you'll had to do a full setup. Sometimes the configs get corrupted for some unknown reason.
Cliff: I tried the "slow cpu", no luck, but great idea! ? Drew: Interesting. This is a 2nd hand cop car Toughbook with a new SSD and 4 GB RAM. It has a I5 2.6 GHz processor. It does WSJT Q65 weak signal microwave decoding no problem.? So I must have something set wrong, I think. As soon as the green signal level touches the squelch level, bang, it freezes Fldigi. With no decode at all. ? In fact I was hoping to have it ready next weekend for roving in the 10 GHz and up contest, as some folks prefer CW, and my code is slow. Like I mentioned it works fine on my other laptop, but this one has a brighter screen and I'm out in the sun moving the microwave dish, so it would be handy. But I can always just use the radio S meter and struggle with my code! -Chris VA3ECO
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Cliff: I totally deleted the C:\Users\<your login name>\fldigi.files directory, then restarted Fldigi and entered all my data again.
Wouldn't that then also remove the fldigi.prefs file, and the fldigi_def.xml file?
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Jack: This Toughbook has a new SSD with only WSJT-X, Winlink, and Fldigi installed.
All the bloatware (Edge, Onedrive, Skype, etc.) have been disabled, but that is a good suggestion.
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I might try removing Fldigi with "remove programs", then make sure fldigi files directory is gone, and then reinstall.
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This is certainly odd as it runs fine on two other PC's that I own.
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Thanks all for the ideas.
-Chris VA3ECO
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
I¡¯m going to take a wild guess here and ask if you maybe don¡¯t think much of Microsoft¡¡.. ??that wasn¡¯t real clear¡..
WOW!
Yet somehow, my Win-11 install is flawless.? I must be crossing my eyes right or something. I don¡¯t have much to say in the forum¡¡ because I¡¯m not having any issues and have not experienced any issues. ? ? Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC. El Paso, Texas - DM61rt. SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager. ? ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of DELETEDSent: Saturday, August 10, 2024 11:44 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [winfldigi] fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything ? Cliff is on the path as is Drew. M$ is notorious for installing crapware as part of the OS. Kill process and disable the One Cloud app, XBox app, any other stuff you don¡¯t need that autoloads on boot up. Look at anything that grabs the sound devices.? Do not configure fldigi or flrig to use the ¡°M$-anything¡± devices they like to own the interface and can do unpredictable things with the audiostream as well as lock the COM ports from shared use. The M$ stuff is optimized for gaming apps.
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Cliff is on the path as is Drew. M$ is notorious for installing crapware as part of the OS. Kill process and disable the One Cloud app, XBox app, any other stuff you don¡¯t need that autoloads on boot up. Look at anything that grabs the sound devices.?
Do not configure fldigi or flrig to use the ¡°M$-anything¡± devices they like to own the interface and can do unpredictable things with the audiostream as well as lock the COM ports from shared use. The M$ stuff is optimized for gaming apps. 73
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On Aug 10, 2024, at 13:24, Cliff <ae5zaham@...> wrote:
? Chris,
One other thing to eliminate a fldigi issue is to rename the fldigi.files directory. Go to C:\Users\<your login name>\fldigi.files directory and rename the fldigi.prefs file to something else like fldigi1.prefs. Then start fldigi and try to decode. If that works then you should be good. If not then back in the same directory rename the fldigi_def.xml file to something else. Now start fldigi and you'll have to do a basic setup and test if it decodes correctly. If so then you'll had to do a full setup. Sometimes the configs get corrupted for some unknown reason.
Cliff: I tried the "slow cpu", no luck, but great idea!
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Drew: Interesting. This is a 2nd hand cop car Toughbook with a new SSD and 4 GB RAM. It has a I5 2.6 GHz processor. It does WSJT Q65 weak signal microwave decoding no problem.? So I must have something set wrong, I think. As soon as the green signal level touches the squelch level, bang, it freezes Fldigi. With no decode at all.
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In fact I was hoping to have it ready next weekend for roving in the 10 GHz and up contest, as some folks prefer CW, and my code is slow. Like I mentioned it works fine on my other laptop, but this one has a brighter screen and I'm out in the sun moving the microwave dish, so it would be handy. But I can always just use the radio S meter and struggle with my code!
-Chris VA3ECO
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Chris,
One other thing to eliminate a fldigi issue is to rename the fldigi.files directory. Go to C:\Users\<your login name>\fldigi.files directory and rename the fldigi.prefs file to something else like fldigi1.prefs. Then start fldigi and try to decode. If that works then you should be good. If not then back in the same directory rename the fldigi_def.xml file to something else. Now start fldigi and you'll have to do a basic setup and test if it decodes correctly. If so then you'll had to do a full setup. Sometimes the configs get corrupted for some unknown reason.
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Cliff: I tried the "slow cpu", no luck, but great idea!
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Drew: Interesting. This is a 2nd hand cop car Toughbook with a new SSD and 4 GB RAM. It has a I5 2.6 GHz processor. It does WSJT Q65 weak signal microwave decoding no problem.? So I must have something set wrong, I think. As soon as the green signal level touches the squelch level, bang, it freezes Fldigi. With no decode at all.
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In fact I was hoping to have it ready next weekend for roving in the 10 GHz and up contest, as some folks prefer CW, and my code is slow. Like I mentioned it works fine on my other laptop, but this one has a brighter screen and I'm out in the sun moving the microwave dish, so it would be handy. But I can always just use the radio S meter and struggle with my code!
-Chris VA3ECO
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Dear All,
Without a clue as to the true root cause, but just to rule out any interactions with existing software installations, I'd try installing FLdigi from scratch in an empty sandbox (e.g. a free one from sandboxie-plus.com). This usually gives a behavior close to a fresh Windows installation. If it still fails there, I have no more ideas left...
Good luck!
73s Tobias
.-.-. Am Samstag, 10. August 2024 um 18:02:38 MESZ hat nwchris VA3ECO <bigelowisland@...> Folgendes geschrieben:
Cliff: I tried the "slow cpu", no luck, but great idea! ? Drew: Interesting. This is a 2nd hand cop car Toughbook with a new SSD and 4 GB RAM. It has a I5 2.6 GHz processor. It does WSJT Q65 weak signal microwave decoding no problem.? So I must have something set wrong, I think. As soon as the green signal level touches the squelch level, bang, it freezes Fldigi. With no decode at all. ? In fact I was hoping to have it ready next weekend for roving in the 10 GHz and up contest, as some folks prefer CW, and my code is slow. Like I mentioned it works fine on my other laptop, but this one has a brighter screen and I'm out in the sun moving the microwave dish, so it would be handy. But I can always just use the radio S meter and struggle with my code! -Chris VA3ECO
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Cliff: I tried the "slow cpu", no luck, but great idea!
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Drew: Interesting. This is a 2nd hand cop car Toughbook with a new SSD and 4 GB RAM. It has a I5 2.6 GHz processor. It does WSJT Q65 weak signal microwave decoding no problem.? So I must have something set wrong, I think. As soon as the green signal level touches the squelch level, bang, it freezes Fldigi. With no decode at all.
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In fact I was hoping to have it ready next weekend for roving in the 10 GHz and up contest, as some folks prefer CW, and my code is slow. Like I mentioned it works fine on my other laptop, but this one has a brighter screen and I'm out in the sun moving the microwave dish, so it would be handy. But I can always just use the radio S meter and struggle with my code!
-Chris VA3ECO
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
On the topic of RAM, I have ran FLDIGI for months and months at a time on a Raspberry Pi model 2 with only 1 gb of RAM and 900 mhz processor speed. So, I think those two metrics are not likely crippling FLDIGI.
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Is Windows 10 native to that machine? I wonder if it's a problem with your operating system eating too many resources. Do any other programs suffer??
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Chris,
Have you tried setting this?
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Thanks for the idea Don. I tried FLrig just now and can't connect to my radio, an FT857.
Using the same parameters I can connect with WSJT, as well as Fldigi using Rigcat and Hamlib.
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I don't think the issue is with the CAT connection. If I use no CAT at all it still freezes the instant it tries to decode something. If I set the squelch level high enough it runs no problem, but of course no decode then.
It's almost like the Toughbook doesn't have the processing power. I even tried taking my Browser channels down to the min of 5, no luck.
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What amount of RAM do you use?
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Thanks for the idea Don. I tried FLrig just now and can't connect to my radio, an FT857.
Using the same parameters I can connect with WSJT, as well as Fldigi using Rigcat and Hamlib.
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I don't think the issue is with the CAT connection. If I use no CAT at all it still freezes the instant it tries to decode something. If I set the squelch level high enough it runs no problem, but of course no decode then.
It's almost like the Toughbook doesn't have the processing power. I even tried taking my Browser channels down to the min of 5, no luck.
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What amount of RAM do you use?
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Re: Yaesu 991A the tune button doesn't work
On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 03:37 PM, Cliff wrote:
Time to try Linux!
Couldn't agree more! You know, I talked about how my Kenwood does the same when switching from other apps to FLDIGI.. and that is with my WindoZe 10 shack PC.? But when I'm running portable with my Yaesu FT-891 and my Linux laptop.. I never have that issue.. ever.
When Win10 reached EOL next year (Oct, 2025), I won't have this problem with my shack PC anymore. It's getting upgraded to Linux.
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Re: fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Chris
I use FLrig on my CF 19 portable with my IC 705 & CF 31 in my mobile using IC 7100. I also use it with Linux as my CF 19 Dual Boot. I'm wondering if it's a driver issue not?finding the proper radio settings. I use mine on Win 10 with JS8call, FT 8 and Pat Winlink as well as Linux Mint. The RAM is soldered on to the board.? I don't see your radio in the email message you posted.
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On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 4:19?PM nwchris VA3ECO via <bigelowisland= [email protected]> wrote: Hi, I've been using FLDigi off and on for years, and I just installed on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-31 MK3 with Win 10 pro 64, with 4 GB ram.
The program freezes (little blue circle, program not responding) as soon as I lower the squelch level down to try to decode anything, CW or PSK31.
I've tried:
version 4.1.20
version 4.2.05
deleting FLDigi files in users...
outboard sound card
built in sound card
CAT cable connected
CAT cable disconnected
Rigcat with proper XML file for CAT
Hamlib for CAT
different bands
reading lots of posts
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I use this laptop for occasional portable use, is there an older version that uses less resources? My other laptop (that I can't see in the sun) has 8 GB ram and works great, but I got this Toughbook for this type of outdoor operating. Do I need 8 GB ram to make this puppy work?
Thanks in advance.
-Chris VA3ECO
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fldigi freezes when trying to decode anything
Hi, I've been using FLDigi off and on for years, and I just installed on a Panasonic Toughbook CF-31 MK3 with Win 10 pro 64, with 4 GB ram.
The program freezes (little blue circle, program not responding) as soon as I lower the squelch level down to try to decode anything, CW or PSK31.
I've tried:
version 4.1.20
version 4.2.05
deleting FLDigi files in users...
outboard sound card
built in sound card
CAT cable connected
CAT cable disconnected
Rigcat with proper XML file for CAT
Hamlib for CAT
different bands
reading lots of posts
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I use this laptop for occasional portable use, is there an older version that uses less resources? My other laptop (that I can't see in the sun) has 8 GB ram and works great, but I got this Toughbook for this type of outdoor operating. Do I need 8 GB ram to make this puppy work?
Thanks in advance.
-Chris VA3ECO
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Re: Yaesu 991A the tune button doesn't work
Hello Howard,
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I am working on it. It will take a few days...
Fldigi and also WSJT-X worked perfectly for me on Windows 11, but I switched back to 10 because of other reason (network authentication issues).
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On Aug 9, 2024, at 11:38, Philip - K4PO via < K4PO.ARS@...> wrote:
Comm ports aren't being released, I'm sure Windows is the culprit, especially Win 11 that is doing its best to control everything on or connected to the computer, including the user.?
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All related programs must be closed when switching apps to clear the comm ports.? Or use comOcom or the like which will allow comm port sharing.?
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Too bad we can't have an OS that just lets us use the computer without interference.? Please mother I would rather do it my way.? Looks like hams and other hobbyist need to move on to Linux and likely would if all app developers would take the lead.? Cheers all.
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Re: Yaesu 991A the tune button doesn't work
Comm ports aren't being released, I'm sure Windows is the culprit, especially Win 11 that is doing its best to control everything on or connected to the computer, including the user.?
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All related programs must be closed when switching apps to clear the comm ports.? Or use comOcom or the like which will allow comm port sharing.?
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Too bad we can't have an OS that just lets us use the computer without interference.? Please mother I would rather do it my way.? Looks like hams and other hobbyist need to move on to Linux and likely would if all app developers would take the lead.? Cheers all.
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Re: Yaesu 991A the tune button doesn't work
Yes, always. Not my first rodeo.
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Re: Yaesu 991A the tune button doesn't work
Hello, Gabor!
A translation of the fldigi settings for the FT-991A would be very helpful and appreciated, sir.
Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8+, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
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-------- Original message -------- From: "HA3MGA via groups.io" <gabor.molnar21@...> Date: 8/7/24 21:32 (GMT-08:00) Subject: Re: [winfldigi] Yaesu 991A the tune button doesn't work
Hello David,
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I am also using an FT-991A with Windows 10, and works nicely. I have these settings:
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I am using RigCAT as it is much better for Fldigi than HamLib. It can read the power, SWR, etc from the radio and you can select the filter bandwidths and so on...
The name of COM port and the Baud rate most probably different in your case, as the baud rate is depending on the radio setting.
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I have these audio settings:
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If you don't have any special settings on the 991A, then it should be in Data USB (or maybe in Data LSB) mode, otherwise it will not accept external audio signal.
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It is very important to switch off all enhancements!
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Finally, there is a very tricky setting in Fldigi for 991A. The red marked checkbox should be active, otherwise it will not work.
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I hope it helps! I have a very detailed tutorial with screenshots for Fldigi and with all settings of FT-991A.
I made it for a Hungarian HAM, so if you interested, then I can translate it...
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73! de HA3MGA Gabor
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Re: Yaesu 991A the tune button doesn't work
Technically that¡¯s a real question, yes. The main point is that I have to reboot the machine when I switch from Ham Radio Deluxe to FLDIGI or Vice versa. I have downloaded VARA HF. I have also downloaded Digipan and WinWarbler. I have tried those out. Sometimes the work, sometimes they don¡¯t. I would have shut them down when I rebooted. So a final yes. I did notice that the computer went into a power saving mode. I thought that I had shut off that function.
On Thursday, August 8, 2024, 8:33 AM, Mike Black via groups.io <mdblack98@...> wrote: When you say "switch to FLDIGI" are you shutting down the other programs?
Mike W9MDB
On Thursday, August 8, 2024 at 07:21:08 AM CDT, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io <mwcarpe@...> wrote:
I often have the exact same issue with my setup.. Windoze 10 to my Kenwood TS-590sg.. If I run any other digital program (JS8Call, VarAC, WSJT-X, Winlink) and then switch to FLDIGI to do something. The CAT control line only works to change frequency. The Tune button doesn't work and the macros will make it LOOK like the radio is transmitting but no power is being produced.
The only solution I've found is to turn everything off.. radio and computer. Then bring back the computer, then turn on the radio.. and go straight to FLDIGI before running anything else.? Every single time, this puts me back in normal operation.
No idea why but it seems like something struggles to take full control of the CAT control function.
Best of luck.
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73
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When you say "switch to FLDIGI" are you shutting down the other programs?
Mike W9MDB
On Thursday, August 8, 2024 at 07:21:08 AM CDT, Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman via groups.io <mwcarpe@...> wrote:
I often have the exact same issue with my setup.. Windoze 10 to my Kenwood TS-590sg.. If I run any other digital program (JS8Call, VarAC, WSJT-X, Winlink) and then switch to FLDIGI to do something. The CAT control line only works to change frequency. The Tune button doesn't work and the macros will make it LOOK like the radio is transmitting but no power is being produced.
The only solution I've found is to turn everything off.. radio and computer. Then bring back the computer, then turn on the radio.. and go straight to FLDIGI before running anything else.? Every single time, this puts me back in normal operation.
No idea why but it seems like something struggles to take full control of the CAT control function.
Best of luck.
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73
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Mike Olbrisch
Jack Spitznagel (KD4IZ)
Drew
Wayne Carpenter KN2Z @minicowman
Don Poaps
Howard