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Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders

Dan Schultz
 

Just come pick it up and it's yours!

Dan

----- Original Message -----
From: "bob dobalina" <looneybin840@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders


Dan-

How much would you like for it?

Bob, Az

----- Original Message ----
From: Dan Schultz <dschultz@...>
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders














Where are you located? I have a driver's side in decent shape.



Dan Schultz

Prescott Valley, Arizona



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From: "phillapin" <plapin@comcast. net>

To: <WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com>

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:12 PM

Subject: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders



I am doing a pretty complete restoration of my 46CJ2A, and pulled the

fenders and grill off today. Grill is fine, but the fenders,

especially the passenger (battery acid) side are fairly well shot. I

could, in theory, rebuild them, but the time investment would be large.

I see replacement fenders on several sites - with WIDELY varying

prices! Beechwood was the highest at $390 per fender, with D&L Bensinger

(BEMAK) fenders listed at $175 each. Does anyone have any insight as

to the reason for large price variations? Is it metal thickness /

quality issues / or simply business reputation? Also - I am in Oregon

and would like to find a source closer to me than the East Coast! Any

comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Phil



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Re: [WT] OT Picture

Chris Lange
 

Just let him know that we are proud of him and every one of our men and women serving over there. God bless them.

Chris
Cortland, NY

----- Original Message -----
From: John Barrett
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:31 PM
Subject: [WT] OT Picture


I know this is off topic but several of you have been remembering my son
in prayer while he's severing in Afghan. I just received this picture
today and thought you might like to see just who he is. He's the one on
the left in the picture.



John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Cherry Valley, Calif.


Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

Chris Lange
 

Gary, Walcks4wd.com has what you need, and is a lot cheaper than $60.

Here is the link, if it doesn't work, just go to Walcks4wd.com and type in coil in the search box.



Pretty cheap and if it doesn't fix the problem, you aren't out a whole lot.

Good luck!

Chris
Cortland, NY
Bunch of jeeps in a cold barn

----- Original Message -----
From: Gary J. Tolosa
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)


Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....

I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
into the carb.

Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
garage were good for something).

I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
for power. I have power at the coil.

I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
a spark.

I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
not see any spark.

So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.

Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though. Just
idling a few minutes.

Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
on that offer.

Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.

I think we are getting close...
Please advise on what you folks think.

Thanks again.

Gary




-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of kr98664
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:22 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run

--- In WillysTech@...
<mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@...>
wrote:
>
> I had submitted this yesterday with only one response, which
was helpful
>

Well, let's consider it was running okay within recent history,
so
odds are likely against any sort of catastrophic failure. My
first
thoughts were the spark plugs have fouled. These old engines
aren't
exactly the cleanest burning things, running on the rich side
all the
time, and way more so when the engine is cold and choke is on.
It
doesn't take much to foul the plugs under those conditions. I
can
notice the plugs loading up on my 2A when idling for any length
of
time. I have to romp on the engine a little bit to blow out the
carbon. Often a few minutes of running with a heavy load, under
full
throttle, is all it will take. Back in the pre-PC days, we even
had a
special term for that, the (censored) tune-up.

Since you can't get it started to perform a (censored) tune-up,
I'd
suggest yanking the plugs for a look see. With any sort of build
up
other than a dry, light tan coating, the plugs may not fire.
Give 'em
a good cleaning with some aerosol electronic cleaner, dry 'em
with
compressed air, and reinstall them and see what happens. I'm
willing
to bet DJ's entire collection of Dukes of Hazzard action figures
(Yes,
even the talking Boss Hogg) that your engine will fire right
back up.

However, since I'm lazy, and yanking plugs involves wrenches,
there
are three quick checks I'd make. Make sure you have a spark,
like DJ
described. Keep in mind a spark may be strong enough to fire in
ambient air conditions, but not under compression inside a
cylinder.
No spark obviously equals bad. The presence of a spark doesn't
guarantee it's a useable spark, but don't get too bogged down
with
that yet.

I'd also suggest taking a looksee at the condition of the
ignition
points. They should be light grey on both sides and no rougher
than
very fine sandpaper, with no evidence of burning. I've no idea
why
this works, but pass a folded dollar bill back and forth between
the
points several times, and that will often clean up any light
crud.
The points need to be closed first, and once you spread them
open,
they'll clamp back down on the dollar bill.

The other lazy man's thing to check is for the presence of fuel
spraying down the carb throat when you cycle the throttle
linkage.
That's the accelerator pump at work, which tells you there is
fuel
present in the carb bowl. No guarantees the rest of the carb is
working properly, but at least you can quickly confirm it has
fuel.

Don't get too bogged down with any of these last checks. You can
check for the presence of fuel, spark, and clean the ignition
points
all in less than five minutes. After that, yank the plugs for a
good
cleaning before anything else. Make sure you let us know what
finally
fixes it, so I can rub it in DJ's face and finally get that
talking
Boss Hog doll of his. (Don't worry, DJ, I won't take your Daisy
Duke
memorabilia)

Regards,

Dr. Vern


Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

Chris Lange
 

I agree, as that has been the case on my CJ2A and 1928 Ford 6 volt coils. When they work, they work. When they don't, well they don't. No in-between. Your local Napa has what you need.

Good luck!

Chris
Cortland, NY

----- Original Message -----
From: snakespit1934
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)



I have been told that is the nature of coils. They are either good,
or they are bad. No in-between; when they die, they do it suddenly,
with no fooling around. A 12 Volt coil should be no problem to find,
including a mount, if the old mount doesn't fit.
-Denver (Hemet, CA)

--- In WillysTech@..., "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....
>
> I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
> into the carb.
>
> Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
> DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
> and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
> the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
> the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
> that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
> garage were good for something).
>
> I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
> for power. I have power at the coil.
>
> I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
> a spark.
>
> I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
> not see any spark.
>
> So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
> I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
> have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.
>
> Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though.
Just
> idling a few minutes.
>
> Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
> for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
> coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
> counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
> not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
> has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
> work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
> that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
> on that offer.
>
> Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
> to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
> all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.
>
> I think we are getting close...
> Please advise on what you folks think.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>

.


Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

Kurt Valentine
 

Same thing happened to me, coil just quit. Any generic 12V coil fits.
Just make sure, like others have posted that it says "internal
ballast" on it.

On Nov 19, 2007 7:46 AM, SF <sf@...> wrote:




You are exactly right. They can and do fail just like that.
SF


----- Original Message -----
From: snakespit1934
To: WillysTech@...

Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

I have been told that is the nature of coils. They are either good,
or they are bad. No in-between; when they die, they do it suddenly,
with no fooling around. A 12 Volt coil should be no problem to find,
including a mount, if the old mount doesn't fit.
-Denver (Hemet, CA)

--- In WillysTech@..., "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@...>
wrote:

Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....

I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
into the carb.

Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
garage were good for something).

I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
for power. I have power at the coil.

I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
a spark.

I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
not see any spark.

So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.

Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though.
Just
idling a few minutes.

Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
on that offer.

Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.

I think we are getting close...
Please advise on what you folks think.

Thanks again.

Gary




-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@...
[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of kr98664
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:22 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run



--- In WillysTech@...
<mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@>
wrote:

I had submitted this yesterday with only one response, which
was helpful
Well, let's consider it was running okay within recent
history,
so
odds are likely against any sort of catastrophic failure. My
first
thoughts were the spark plugs have fouled. These old engines
aren't
exactly the cleanest burning things, running on the rich side
all the
time, and way more so when the engine is cold and choke is on.
It
doesn't take much to foul the plugs under those conditions. I
can
notice the plugs loading up on my 2A when idling for any
length
of
time. I have to romp on the engine a little bit to blow out
the
carbon. Often a few minutes of running with a heavy load,
under
full
throttle, is all it will take. Back in the pre-PC days, we
even
had a
special term for that, the (censored) tune-up.

Since you can't get it started to perform a (censored) tune-
up,
I'd
suggest yanking the plugs for a look see. With any sort of
build
up
other than a dry, light tan coating, the plugs may not fire.
Give 'em
a good cleaning with some aerosol electronic cleaner, dry 'em
with
compressed air, and reinstall them and see what happens. I'm
willing
to bet DJ's entire collection of Dukes of Hazzard action
figures
(Yes,
even the talking Boss Hogg) that your engine will fire right
back up.

However, since I'm lazy, and yanking plugs involves wrenches,
there
are three quick checks I'd make. Make sure you have a spark,
like DJ
described. Keep in mind a spark may be strong enough to fire
in
ambient air conditions, but not under compression inside a
cylinder.
No spark obviously equals bad. The presence of a spark doesn't
guarantee it's a useable spark, but don't get too bogged down
with
that yet.

I'd also suggest taking a looksee at the condition of the
ignition
points. They should be light grey on both sides and no rougher
than
very fine sandpaper, with no evidence of burning. I've no idea
why
this works, but pass a folded dollar bill back and forth
between
the
points several times, and that will often clean up any light
crud.
The points need to be closed first, and once you spread them
open,
they'll clamp back down on the dollar bill.

The other lazy man's thing to check is for the presence of
fuel
spraying down the carb throat when you cycle the throttle
linkage.
That's the accelerator pump at work, which tells you there is
fuel
present in the carb bowl. No guarantees the rest of the carb
is
working properly, but at least you can quickly confirm it has
fuel.

Don't get too bogged down with any of these last checks. You
can
check for the presence of fuel, spark, and clean the ignition
points
all in less than five minutes. After that, yank the plugs for
a
good
cleaning before anything else. Make sure you let us know what
finally
fixes it, so I can rub it in DJ's face and finally get that
talking
Boss Hog doll of his. (Don't worry, DJ, I won't take your
Daisy
Duke
memorabilia)

Regards,

Dr. Vern














Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

SF
 

You are exactly right. They can and do fail just like that.
SF

----- Original Message -----
From: snakespit1934
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 11:51 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)



I have been told that is the nature of coils. They are either good,
or they are bad. No in-between; when they die, they do it suddenly,
with no fooling around. A 12 Volt coil should be no problem to find,
including a mount, if the old mount doesn't fit.
-Denver (Hemet, CA)

--- In WillysTech@..., "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....
>
> I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
> into the carb.
>
> Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
> DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
> and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
> the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
> the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
> that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
> garage were good for something).
>
> I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
> for power. I have power at the coil.
>
> I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
> a spark.
>
> I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
> not see any spark.
>
> So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
> I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
> have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.
>
> Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though.
Just
> idling a few minutes.
>
> Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
> for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
> coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
> counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
> not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
> has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
> work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
> that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
> on that offer.
>
> Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
> to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
> all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.
>
> I think we are getting close...
> Please advise on what you folks think.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WillysTech@...
[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
> Behalf Of kr98664
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:22 PM
> To: WillysTech@...
> Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run
>
>
>
> --- In WillysTech@...
> <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I had submitted this yesterday with only one response, which
> was helpful
> >
>
> Well, let's consider it was running okay within recent
history,
> so
> odds are likely against any sort of catastrophic failure. My
> first
> thoughts were the spark plugs have fouled. These old engines
> aren't
> exactly the cleanest burning things, running on the rich side
> all the
> time, and way more so when the engine is cold and choke is on.
> It
> doesn't take much to foul the plugs under those conditions. I
> can
> notice the plugs loading up on my 2A when idling for any
length
> of
> time. I have to romp on the engine a little bit to blow out
the
> carbon. Often a few minutes of running with a heavy load,
under
> full
> throttle, is all it will take. Back in the pre-PC days, we
even
> had a
> special term for that, the (censored) tune-up.
>
> Since you can't get it started to perform a (censored) tune-
up,
> I'd
> suggest yanking the plugs for a look see. With any sort of
build
> up
> other than a dry, light tan coating, the plugs may not fire.
> Give 'em
> a good cleaning with some aerosol electronic cleaner, dry 'em
> with
> compressed air, and reinstall them and see what happens. I'm
> willing
> to bet DJ's entire collection of Dukes of Hazzard action
figures
> (Yes,
> even the talking Boss Hogg) that your engine will fire right
> back up.
>
> However, since I'm lazy, and yanking plugs involves wrenches,
> there
> are three quick checks I'd make. Make sure you have a spark,
> like DJ
> described. Keep in mind a spark may be strong enough to fire
in
> ambient air conditions, but not under compression inside a
> cylinder.
> No spark obviously equals bad. The presence of a spark doesn't
> guarantee it's a useable spark, but don't get too bogged down
> with
> that yet.
>
> I'd also suggest taking a looksee at the condition of the
> ignition
> points. They should be light grey on both sides and no rougher
> than
> very fine sandpaper, with no evidence of burning. I've no idea
> why
> this works, but pass a folded dollar bill back and forth
between
> the
> points several times, and that will often clean up any light
> crud.
> The points need to be closed first, and once you spread them
> open,
> they'll clamp back down on the dollar bill.
>
> The other lazy man's thing to check is for the presence of
fuel
> spraying down the carb throat when you cycle the throttle
> linkage.
> That's the accelerator pump at work, which tells you there is
> fuel
> present in the carb bowl. No guarantees the rest of the carb
is
> working properly, but at least you can quickly confirm it has
> fuel.
>
> Don't get too bogged down with any of these last checks. You
can
> check for the presence of fuel, spark, and clean the ignition
> points
> all in less than five minutes. After that, yank the plugs for
a
> good
> cleaning before anything else. Make sure you let us know what
> finally
> fixes it, so I can rub it in DJ's face and finally get that
> talking
> Boss Hog doll of his. (Don't worry, DJ, I won't take your
Daisy
> Duke
> memorabilia)
>
> Regards,
>
> Dr. Vern
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders

 

Dan-

How much would you like for it?

Bob, Az

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To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders














Where are you located? I have a driver's side in decent shape.



Dan Schultz

Prescott Valley, Arizona



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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:12 PM

Subject: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders



I am doing a pretty complete restoration of my 46CJ2A, and pulled the

fenders and grill off today. Grill is fine, but the fenders,

especially the passenger (battery acid) side are fairly well shot. I

could, in theory, rebuild them, but the time investment would be large.

I see replacement fenders on several sites - with WIDELY varying

prices! Beechwood was the highest at $390 per fender, with D&L Bensinger

(BEMAK) fenders listed at $175 each. Does anyone have any insight as

to the reason for large price variations? Is it metal thickness /

quality issues / or simply business reputation? Also - I am in Oregon

and would like to find a source closer to me than the East Coast! Any

comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Phil



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Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

 

More food for thought you can test the coils ohms...
Bob, Az

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To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:51:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)
















I have been told that is the nature of coils. They are either good,

or they are bad. No in-between; when they die, they do it suddenly,

with no fooling around. A 12 Volt coil should be no problem to find,

including a mount, if the old mount doesn't fit.

-Denver (Hemet, CA)



--- In WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com, "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@... >

wrote:

Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....
I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
into the carb.
Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
garage were good for something).
I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
for power. I have power at the coil.
I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
a spark.
I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
not see any spark.
So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.
Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though.
Just

idling a few minutes.
Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
on that offer.
Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.
I think we are getting close...
Please advise on what you folks think.
Thanks again.
Gary
-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com
[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com] On

Behalf Of kr98664
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:22 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run
--- In WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com
<mailto:WillysTech% 40yahoogroups. com> , "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@>
wrote:
>
> I had submitted this yesterday with only one response, which
was helpful
>
Well, let's consider it was running okay within recent
history,

so
odds are likely against any sort of catastrophic failure. My
first
thoughts were the spark plugs have fouled. These old engines
aren't
exactly the cleanest burning things, running on the rich side
all the
time, and way more so when the engine is cold and choke is on.
It
doesn't take much to foul the plugs under those conditions. I
can
notice the plugs loading up on my 2A when idling for any
length

of
time. I have to romp on the engine a little bit to blow out
the

carbon. Often a few minutes of running with a heavy load,
under

full
throttle, is all it will take. Back in the pre-PC days, we
even

had a
special term for that, the (censored) tune-up.
Since you can't get it started to perform a (censored) tune-
up,

I'd
suggest yanking the plugs for a look see. With any sort of
build

up
other than a dry, light tan coating, the plugs may not fire.
Give 'em
a good cleaning with some aerosol electronic cleaner, dry 'em
with
compressed air, and reinstall them and see what happens. I'm
willing
to bet DJ's entire collection of Dukes of Hazzard action
figures

(Yes,
even the talking Boss Hogg) that your engine will fire right
back up.
However, since I'm lazy, and yanking plugs involves wrenches,
there
are three quick checks I'd make. Make sure you have a spark,
like DJ
described. Keep in mind a spark may be strong enough to fire
in

ambient air conditions, but not under compression inside a
cylinder.
No spark obviously equals bad. The presence of a spark doesn't
guarantee it's a useable spark, but don't get too bogged down
with
that yet.
I'd also suggest taking a looksee at the condition of the
ignition
points. They should be light grey on both sides and no rougher
than
very fine sandpaper, with no evidence of burning. I've no idea
why
this works, but pass a folded dollar bill back and forth
between

the
points several times, and that will often clean up any light
crud.
The points need to be closed first, and once you spread them
open,
they'll clamp back down on the dollar bill.
The other lazy man's thing to check is for the presence of
fuel

spraying down the carb throat when you cycle the throttle
linkage.
That's the accelerator pump at work, which tells you there is
fuel
present in the carb bowl. No guarantees the rest of the carb
is

working properly, but at least you can quickly confirm it has
fuel.
Don't get too bogged down with any of these last checks. You
can

check for the presence of fuel, spark, and clean the ignition
points
all in less than five minutes. After that, yank the plugs for
a

good
cleaning before anything else. Make sure you let us know what
finally
fixes it, so I can rub it in DJ's face and finally get that
talking
Boss Hog doll of his. (Don't worry, DJ, I won't take your
Daisy

Duke
memorabilia)
Regards,
Dr. Vern













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Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

 

The hardest coil to find was the one I needed that went under dash and has a
key assembly made into it. Found it in Minnesota.

Andy
Nashville



*** See what's new at


Re: Kaiser Jeep Ratios Question

 

Hello Robo,
The V6 equipped CJ5's came early on with the T86AA 3 spd. Late CJ5's had
the T14A 3 spd. The T18 4 spd was optional in the late CJ5's with the
V6.

Wes K


Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

snakespit1934
 

I have been told that is the nature of coils. They are either good,
or they are bad. No in-between; when they die, they do it suddenly,
with no fooling around. A 12 Volt coil should be no problem to find,
including a mount, if the old mount doesn't fit.
-Denver (Hemet, CA)

--- In WillysTech@..., "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@...>
wrote:

Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....

I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
into the carb.

Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
garage were good for something).

I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
for power. I have power at the coil.

I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
a spark.

I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
not see any spark.

So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.

Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though.
Just
idling a few minutes.

Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
on that offer.

Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.

I think we are getting close...
Please advise on what you folks think.

Thanks again.

Gary




-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@...
[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of kr98664
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:22 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run



--- In WillysTech@...
<mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@>
wrote:
>
> I had submitted this yesterday with only one response, which
was helpful
>

Well, let's consider it was running okay within recent
history,
so
odds are likely against any sort of catastrophic failure. My
first
thoughts were the spark plugs have fouled. These old engines
aren't
exactly the cleanest burning things, running on the rich side
all the
time, and way more so when the engine is cold and choke is on.
It
doesn't take much to foul the plugs under those conditions. I
can
notice the plugs loading up on my 2A when idling for any
length
of
time. I have to romp on the engine a little bit to blow out
the
carbon. Often a few minutes of running with a heavy load,
under
full
throttle, is all it will take. Back in the pre-PC days, we
even
had a
special term for that, the (censored) tune-up.

Since you can't get it started to perform a (censored) tune-
up,
I'd
suggest yanking the plugs for a look see. With any sort of
build
up
other than a dry, light tan coating, the plugs may not fire.
Give 'em
a good cleaning with some aerosol electronic cleaner, dry 'em
with
compressed air, and reinstall them and see what happens. I'm
willing
to bet DJ's entire collection of Dukes of Hazzard action
figures
(Yes,
even the talking Boss Hogg) that your engine will fire right
back up.

However, since I'm lazy, and yanking plugs involves wrenches,
there
are three quick checks I'd make. Make sure you have a spark,
like DJ
described. Keep in mind a spark may be strong enough to fire
in
ambient air conditions, but not under compression inside a
cylinder.
No spark obviously equals bad. The presence of a spark doesn't
guarantee it's a useable spark, but don't get too bogged down
with
that yet.

I'd also suggest taking a looksee at the condition of the
ignition
points. They should be light grey on both sides and no rougher
than
very fine sandpaper, with no evidence of burning. I've no idea
why
this works, but pass a folded dollar bill back and forth
between
the
points several times, and that will often clean up any light
crud.
The points need to be closed first, and once you spread them
open,
they'll clamp back down on the dollar bill.

The other lazy man's thing to check is for the presence of
fuel
spraying down the carb throat when you cycle the throttle
linkage.
That's the accelerator pump at work, which tells you there is
fuel
present in the carb bowl. No guarantees the rest of the carb
is
working properly, but at least you can quickly confirm it has
fuel.

Don't get too bogged down with any of these last checks. You
can
check for the presence of fuel, spark, and clean the ignition
points
all in less than five minutes. After that, yank the plugs for
a
good
cleaning before anything else. Make sure you let us know what
finally
fixes it, so I can rub it in DJ's face and finally get that
talking
Boss Hog doll of his. (Don't worry, DJ, I won't take your
Daisy
Duke
memorabilia)

Regards,

Dr. Vern







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Re: CJ2A Replacement Fenders

 

You used the word "restoration", if you are truly restoring the CJ2A, a
flat fender Willys enthusiast will spot Omix repros easily and make fun
of your baby. Better try a wanted ad on www.thecj2apage.com and browse
around while you are there, it is an excellent resource for CJ2A
related information.
On the other hand, if you are using the word "restoration" more
loosely, as in "fixin' it up to sell on Epay" then go for the Omix
stuff, the average rube won't know the difference.


Re: FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

lross7170
 

Gary,

The NAPA part number I bought and am using is IC88. This is a 12 volt
coil with an internal resistor. You do not need the external resistor
or a resistor wire from the ignition switch to the coil. It is a
standard size that worked fine with the original bracket. The price
was $48.97 plus tax.

Larry
1948 CJ2A


--- In WillysTech@..., "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@...>
wrote:

Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....

I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
into the carb.

Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
garage were good for something).

I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
for power. I have power at the coil.

I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
a spark.

I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
not see any spark.

So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.

Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though.
Just
idling a few minutes.

Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
on that offer.

Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.

I think we are getting close...
Please advise on what you folks think.

Thanks again.

Gary


Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders

Dan Schultz
 

Where are you located? I have a driver's side in decent shape.

Dan Schultz
Prescott Valley, Arizona

----- Original Message -----
From: "phillapin" <plapin@...>
To: <WillysTech@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 4:12 PM
Subject: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Fenders


I am doing a pretty complete restoration of my 46CJ2A, and pulled the
fenders and grill off today. Grill is fine, but the fenders,
especially the passenger (battery acid) side are fairly well shot. I
could, in theory, rebuild them, but the time investment would be large.
I see replacement fenders on several sites - with WIDELY varying
prices! Beechwood was the highest at $390 per fender, with D&L Bensinger
(BEMAK) fenders listed at $175 each. Does anyone have any insight as
to the reason for large price variations? Is it metal thickness /
quality issues / or simply business reputation? Also - I am in Oregon
and would like to find a source closer to me than the East Coast! Any
comments would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Phil



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Re: [WT] 59-60 (?) PickUP Temp/Fuel gauge smoking

 

Is it possible your supplying 12v. to 6v. gauges?
For the year in question it's likely that the gauges were setup to work
with either 12v or 6v - at least I don't recall seeing different gauge
part numbers for different voltages for those years (12v was available
beginning in 1957.) Even on the earlier models (beginning with
1950-1/2) supplying them with 12v won't cause a problem as the IVR will
handle 12v at the expense of shortening the IVR's life.

David
'50 4WD Pickup


Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)

Gary J. Tolosa
 

Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....

I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting
into the carb.

Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as
DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on
and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about
the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on
the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it
that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my
garage were good for something).

I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)
for power. I have power at the coil.

I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got
a spark.

I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did
not see any spark.

So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),
I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to
have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.

Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though. Just
idling a few minutes.

Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number
for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old
coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the
counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was
not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine
has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should
work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now
that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold
on that offer.

Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem
to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them
all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.

I think we are getting close...
Please advise on what you folks think.

Thanks again.

Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of kr98664
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:22 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run



--- In WillysTech@...
<mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> , "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@...>
wrote:
>
> I had submitted this yesterday with only one response, which
was helpful
>

Well, let's consider it was running okay within recent history,
so
odds are likely against any sort of catastrophic failure. My
first
thoughts were the spark plugs have fouled. These old engines
aren't
exactly the cleanest burning things, running on the rich side
all the
time, and way more so when the engine is cold and choke is on.
It
doesn't take much to foul the plugs under those conditions. I
can
notice the plugs loading up on my 2A when idling for any length
of
time. I have to romp on the engine a little bit to blow out the
carbon. Often a few minutes of running with a heavy load, under
full
throttle, is all it will take. Back in the pre-PC days, we even
had a
special term for that, the (censored) tune-up.

Since you can't get it started to perform a (censored) tune-up,
I'd
suggest yanking the plugs for a look see. With any sort of build
up
other than a dry, light tan coating, the plugs may not fire.
Give 'em
a good cleaning with some aerosol electronic cleaner, dry 'em
with
compressed air, and reinstall them and see what happens. I'm
willing
to bet DJ's entire collection of Dukes of Hazzard action figures
(Yes,
even the talking Boss Hogg) that your engine will fire right
back up.

However, since I'm lazy, and yanking plugs involves wrenches,
there
are three quick checks I'd make. Make sure you have a spark,
like DJ
described. Keep in mind a spark may be strong enough to fire in
ambient air conditions, but not under compression inside a
cylinder.
No spark obviously equals bad. The presence of a spark doesn't
guarantee it's a useable spark, but don't get too bogged down
with
that yet.

I'd also suggest taking a looksee at the condition of the
ignition
points. They should be light grey on both sides and no rougher
than
very fine sandpaper, with no evidence of burning. I've no idea
why
this works, but pass a folded dollar bill back and forth between
the
points several times, and that will often clean up any light
crud.
The points need to be closed first, and once you spread them
open,
they'll clamp back down on the dollar bill.

The other lazy man's thing to check is for the presence of fuel
spraying down the carb throat when you cycle the throttle
linkage.
That's the accelerator pump at work, which tells you there is
fuel
present in the carb bowl. No guarantees the rest of the carb is
working properly, but at least you can quickly confirm it has
fuel.

Don't get too bogged down with any of these last checks. You can
check for the presence of fuel, spark, and clean the ignition
points
all in less than five minutes. After that, yank the plugs for a
good
cleaning before anything else. Make sure you let us know what
finally
fixes it, so I can rub it in DJ's face and finally get that
talking
Boss Hog doll of his. (Don't worry, DJ, I won't take your Daisy
Duke
memorabilia)

Regards,

Dr. Vern


Re: Import a Willys from Japan??

eugenethemagicaljeep
 

There's been about 3 of the 3B's on EBay in the last few weeks. I
don't know if any are still running. They were all diesels and all
right hand drive.

James P. Sartain, Jr.
Chattanooga, Tennessee
1953 CJ3B
Ben-Hur Trailer

--- In WillysTech@..., "Thomas Roberts" <TRobertsRN@...>
wrote:

Mitsubishi made Willys 3B's, Wagons, and Pickups until 1998 and I
think
they are still being made in India.

Has anyone ever imported one here.

Would be grate to have a Wagon that was only 9 years old particulary
with the diesel.

I have some pics, how do I post them?


Tom


Re: [WT] Re: Import a Willys from Japan??

 

Derrin, Have you taken a look under the hood of these or tried to
assess the similarities and differences to the american flatfender
jeeps?

If there was an easy way to swap the steering over to the left and
find an old willys title to falsely register the japanese jeep under it
would seem like a relatively easy matter to have a turbodiesel
flatfender on american roads.

The biggest uncertainty I see is finding parts for one of these as
things wear out. I am guessing the body looks similar but beyond that
the drivetrain and accessories are totally different.
I am not sure what laws one would be guilty of violating in the
process but it seems like it would be easy to do.

I wonder if you could bring your old american willys plates and current
registration with you and drive it home from Canada or if the customs
guys would see right through it???

karl

On Nov 18, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Derrin Fines wrote:

Hello Techers. I thought you might find this intersting. These guys are
about 25 minutes away from me. This is on Vancouver Island, in British
Columbia, Canada. They have been doing a thriving business. In no way
affilliated, just seeing a lot of their imports on the roads around
here.
Derrin

Scroll down to see the Mitsubishi Jeeps



Derrin Fines
1947 CJ2A
Port Alberni, B.C.
Canada



Re: [WT] OT Picture

William Kuran
 

Hi John,



Thanks for sharing the photo. It has got to be tough with him overseas. I
have a daughter in Kyrgyzstan with the Air Force, helping keep the ground
forces supplies with the things they need. I think that it is our prayers
that they need the most.



Bell



_____

From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of John Barrett
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:31 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] OT Picture



I know this is off topic but several of you have been remembering my son
in prayer while he's severing in Afghan. I just received this picture
today and thought you might like to see just who he is. He's the one on
the left in the picture.

.
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ominAfghan.jpg>
photobucket.com/albums/cc37/Tinkertoy56/?action=view&current=ThominAfghan.jp
g

John
'56 Pickup TKER TOY
Cherry Valley, Calif.


Re: [WT] Re: Pictures of Willys Jeeps made in Japan until 1998

RICK JOHNSON
 

When you receive this email , see if there is a box on the right side of the screen that says Willys Tech . If so click on "visit your group"
That should direct you to the Willys Tech site . Then click on "PHOTOS" and find the words " create an album" in the upper right side of page
This should allow you to create your own album to attach photos in the same manner you attach them to an email
If you cannot get to the site from your email . just go to it in your normal manner and follow the same steps as above
Rick
RJ1313 1956 pickup

George Steele <georgejeep@...> wrote:
I have a Mistubishi Jeep that I would love to show you pictures of but
I'm not sure how to post them. Can someone please tell me how to do it?

George






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