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----- Original Message ----
From: snakespit1934 <jeepnut@...>
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:51:47 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run (UPDATE)
















I have been told that is the nature of coils. They are either good,

or they are bad. No in-between; when they die, they do it suddenly,

with no fooling around. A 12 Volt coil should be no problem to find,

including a mount, if the old mount doesn't fit.

-Denver (Hemet, CA)



--- In WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com, "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@... >

wrote:

Thanks again for the great input/guidance, here is what I found....

I first checked the accelerator pump and verified gas is getting

into the carb.

Next, I checked for a spark on the spark plug, I did the test as

DJ described, holding the line 1/4 inch from the plug, ignition on

and tried to start, I did not see a spark, but was not sure about

the distance of the line to the plug since the line has a cover on

the end. So I removed the plug, connected the line and tried it

that way - no spark was visible (finally the crummy lights in my

garage were good for something).

I then checked the positive line to the coil (with the ignition on)

for power. I have power at the coil.

I then checked the points (again with the ignition on) and got

a spark.

I then checked the line at the top of the coil for spark, but did

not see any spark.

So, unless I did not do a test above properly (entirely possible),

I think I may have a bad coil. I did remove the coil, it seems to

have liquid inside, I heard once they can dry up and go bad.

Seems kind of strange, I would loose the coil like that though.

Just

idling a few minutes.

Also, if the coil is bad, would anyone have a NAPA part number

for the 12v coil that fits the original mount? I did take my old

coil to my FLAPS but the highly motivated person behind the

counter said he had no way to test my coil and that he was

not sure what coil I had, since the original was a 6v and mine

has been converted to 12v, he then found a coil that "should

work" for $60.00, and also said the part is not returnable. Now

that's customer service. Needless to say, I decided to hold

on that offer.

Oh yea, I almost forgot, I did check the plugs, they all seem

to have had a black layer of crud built up, so I did replace them

all. But, this did not solve the issue, sorry Dr.

I think we are getting close...

Please advise on what you folks think.

Thanks again.

Gary

-----Original Message-----

From: WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com

[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com] On

Behalf Of kr98664

Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:22 PM

To: WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com

Subject: Re: [WT] FW: Dang - it won't run

--- In WillysTech@yahoogro ups.com

<mailto:WillysTech% 40yahoogroups. com> , "Gary J. Tolosa" <gtolosa@>

wrote:

>

> I had submitted this yesterday with only one response, which

was helpful

>

Well, let's consider it was running okay within recent

history,

so

odds are likely against any sort of catastrophic failure. My

first

thoughts were the spark plugs have fouled. These old engines

aren't

exactly the cleanest burning things, running on the rich side

all the

time, and way more so when the engine is cold and choke is on.

It

doesn't take much to foul the plugs under those conditions. I

can

notice the plugs loading up on my 2A when idling for any

length

of

time. I have to romp on the engine a little bit to blow out

the

carbon. Often a few minutes of running with a heavy load,

under

full

throttle, is all it will take. Back in the pre-PC days, we

even

had a

special term for that, the (censored) tune-up.

Since you can't get it started to perform a (censored) tune-

up,

I'd

suggest yanking the plugs for a look see. With any sort of

build

up

other than a dry, light tan coating, the plugs may not fire.

Give 'em

a good cleaning with some aerosol electronic cleaner, dry 'em

with

compressed air, and reinstall them and see what happens. I'm

willing

to bet DJ's entire collection of Dukes of Hazzard action

figures

(Yes,

even the talking Boss Hogg) that your engine will fire right

back up.

However, since I'm lazy, and yanking plugs involves wrenches,

there

are three quick checks I'd make. Make sure you have a spark,

like DJ

described. Keep in mind a spark may be strong enough to fire

in

ambient air conditions, but not under compression inside a

cylinder.

No spark obviously equals bad. The presence of a spark doesn't

guarantee it's a useable spark, but don't get too bogged down

with

that yet.

I'd also suggest taking a looksee at the condition of the

ignition

points. They should be light grey on both sides and no rougher

than

very fine sandpaper, with no evidence of burning. I've no idea

why

this works, but pass a folded dollar bill back and forth

between

the

points several times, and that will often clean up any light

crud.

The points need to be closed first, and once you spread them

open,

they'll clamp back down on the dollar bill.

The other lazy man's thing to check is for the presence of

fuel

spraying down the carb throat when you cycle the throttle

linkage.

That's the accelerator pump at work, which tells you there is

fuel

present in the carb bowl. No guarantees the rest of the carb

is

working properly, but at least you can quickly confirm it has

fuel.

Don't get too bogged down with any of these last checks. You

can

check for the presence of fuel, spark, and clean the ignition

points

all in less than five minutes. After that, yank the plugs for

a

good

cleaning before anything else. Make sure you let us know what

finally

fixes it, so I can rub it in DJ's face and finally get that

talking

Boss Hog doll of his. (Don't worry, DJ, I won't take your

Daisy

Duke

memorabilia)

Regards,

Dr. Vern

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