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Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time on PBS

Jim Allen
 

Well there you have it. An unbiased review. I can tell you the
Producer, Greg Tye, did his homework on it and agonized about getting
it right. Quite unlike some of the other producers I've worked with
that had a "quick-n-dirty" kinda outlook.

Jim Allen

On Sep 27, 2007, at 9:21 PM, Mighty Mo wrote:

Well for what it's worth, here are my thoughts about the documentary.

It is advertized as a "Toledo Story" kind of fitting.

It follows the Jeep from Bantam to the CJ2A and the "off road
rodeos". It if
quite accurate and gives credit to Bantam and Karl Probst for
creating the
first prototype. From what I understand to be true the story was quite
factual and says Bantam was the ONLY company that fulfilled all the
government requirements. However all designs were shared among all
three
competitors and eventually the contract contained the best of all
designs
and went to the lowest bidder. Ford was given credit for the
stamped grill
and Willys for the "Go Devil" engine.

The origin of the Jeep name was stated as unknown, however it gave
credit to
the Willys test driver that was driving reporters around Washington
DC for
calling the vehicle a Jeep. All the "possible" origins for the Jeep
name
were discussed. It high lights the abilities of the Jeep. During
and after
the war through the early 50s.

Ron Szymanski, previous curator of the Jeep House Museum, and Jim
Allen,
author / journalist provided some narration but most was by an off
screen
narrator.

I will watch the WGTE.org web site and when the DVD comes available
I will
post a link.

My only complaint is really a pet peeve I have. The narrator
mispronounced
the Willys name. The only person to correctly pronounce the name
was Ron
Szymanski. As a matter of clarification Jim Allen didn't mispronounce
Willys, when he referred to the vehicle he called it a Jeep. This
just shows
that over the years 50+ years since Kaiser bought the company
people here in
Toledo have begun to pronounce the name differently. John North
Willys may
be turning over in his grave!

Check out these sound bytes from the late 40s



I will not get off my soap box.

Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR


1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
Vehicle

Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

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** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@...
[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Jim Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:27 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm
Eastern Time
on PBS

I know it's scheduled to run in Cleveland this week, WBGU (also my
PBS station) was mentioned by WGTE personnel as being slated to run
it, as is the Cinci PBS. Not sure about Columbus. Worst case, you'd
have to buy it from WGTE (consider it a charitable contribution, I
guess). FYI, I volunteered my time and pics. Stay tuned, I guess,
Mighty Mo can give you a more unbiased review, but I assure you PA
Bantam fans that you got a fair shake. Ford too.

Jim Allen

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:05 PM, boomer@wcoil. <mailto:boomer%
40wcoil.com> com
wrote:

Te Schedule varies according to the PBS station. I suggest
Googling
"Jeep: Steel Soldier."

Jim Allen




On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:05 AM, John Francis wrote:

So what is the schedule for us Buckeyes?

John
First off thanks to Jim Allen for his contribution to this
documentary.

TV 30 WGTE Toledo Ohio will air the program "Jeep: Steel Soldier" on
Thursday Sept, 27 at 8:00 PM.

Alas my PBS station in the Elida, OH area is WBGU in Bowling Green
OH and
a search of their web site revels no plans to air the program.

Just my luck.

Gary K.
Elida, OH
47CJ2A:48CJ2A:66CJ5:TwoYJ's:OneXJ:








Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Body

Chris Lange
 

Good morning,

If you are looking for a new body for your CJ2A, please shop around first. Most of the bodies come from the Phillipines, and sold by all the venders. I bought a tub about two years ago now from Willysacres.com. This was one of the MDJUAN.com bodies. It did have all the holes drilled for the gauges, floor pedals, etc. The bodies have come a long way from the early years when you would essentially get a tub, that sort of looked like a conglomeration of every Willys jeep from WW2 to 1953. I think with the growing popularity of these old jeeps, MDJUAN has had to improve thier product to keep the buying public happy. I was very happy with the tub I received.

Now I must say that I went with the MB tub for my CJ2A so I did have to change the body mounts on my CJ2A frame, but the holes in the tub were all there.

Finally, when I was shopping for a tub, I did many a search on the computer, and found that Willysacres had the lowest price. That may or may not be the case now, but I do suggest that you do some looking first, as the price may vary greatly from one vender to another.

Good Luck!

Chris
Cortland, NY

----- Original Message -----
From: willysx1
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:49 PM
Subject: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Body


Does anyone have any knowledge on the replacement bodies currently
avalible for a 47-48 CJ2A. Willys-Overland Motors claims to have a
perfect fit where others talk about might needing to do a little cut,
fit, weld. Anyone have the straight stuff on this? Contact me off
list if you don't want your comments public.


Fuel tank instalation

 

I am installing the fuel tank in my CJ3-A. What is used to go between the
bottom of the tank and the body tub floor pan? I thought maybe several strips of
canvas, however this might cause water to accumulate and cause rust. Any
suggestions?



*** See what's new at


Re: [WT] '58 Willys

 

Here is a link to some photos of a nice looking wagon in the Photos
section of this group:



Here is a link to photos on the cj-3a page. Does yours look more
like these (maybe the last photo)?



Bill
Lake Stevens, WA
'58 Utility Wagon 4x4 "Scallywag"
'59 Utility Wagon 4x4

--- In WillysTech@..., Ken Connors <kennconn69@...> wrote:

Bill,
Thanks for responding.My Jeep has a window on each side to the
rear of the cab.She has a rear hatch that swings up and a tailgate
that swings down.The registration does have a model location but it
is blank.Only other reference that may help ID her may be a number on
the water pump housing.Maybe??I don't know of anything else.She did
have a plate on the firewall but some P$&%K recently drilled the
rivets and took it.


Re: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Body

 

Willys Overland are high dollar. However they do have the original prints.
ALL bodies come from the Philippines and are manufactured by MD Juan.
Some (most if not all) bodies from places other
than Willys Overland don't have all the holes in the correct locations. Body
mounting holes are almost always missing. The clutch / brake / accelerator
pedal holes have been found to be missing. I have heard of the dash holes
being non existent also. Willys Overland starts with a MD Juan body and
modifies them to have all the holes and in the correct location. ---- I
would call and talk to them to be sure. ----



If you plan to have a heavily modified vehicle with a modern engine and
things like an electronic dash and hanging brake/clutch pedals, don't spend
the money for a Willys Overland body. But if you have a reasonably stock
vehicle and want to position the body correctly on a stock (straight) frame,
Willys Overland is a reasonable thought.



Just a side note, someone here spent quite a bit of effort to figure out
where to put some firewall holes. They for cardboard templates etc. I think
eventually they got the hole(s) in but I'm not sure they were (are) in the
correct location. If they are not other issues may result.





Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of willysx1
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:49 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: [WT] CJ2A Replacement Body



Does anyone have any knowledge on the replacement bodies currently
avalible for a 47-48 CJ2A. Willys-Overland Motors claims to have a
perfect fit where others talk about might needing to do a little cut,
fit, weld. Anyone have the straight stuff on this? Contact me off
list if you don't want your comments public.


Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time on PBS

 

My father worked at "The Overland" or "Willys" till it became apparent to
him that Kaiser wanted all the "old guard Willys" people out. In 1955 he
left Willys and went to Ford. Up till the day he died in 1994 he always
pronounced it correctly. He explained that Kaiser and AMC obviously didn't
have any interest in preserve the past.



An Interesting side light, I knew that my dad had been a metallurgist during
the war and worked on "bullet cores". Evidentially that was also at Willys
Overland. According to the documentary, much large ammunition projectiles
were produced ay Willys. This aspect of Willys was not advertized and may
have been secret or something. Anyway my dad just didn't talk much about it
and would change the subject if I pressed for an answer.



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of John Wickersham
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:32 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: RE: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time
on PBS



My Dear Ric,

I feel your pain. As an old timer whose first car was a '49 3A, I hate the
continuous mispronunciation of the honored name of these automobiles. The
"Willeez" pronunciation truly gives me the willies, but when I correct
people (essentially everyone, nobody using the correct name), they look at
me like my hair is on fire. Nonetheless, I press on regardless.

Pineneedle

Mighty Mo <cj2a@roadrunner. <mailto:cj2a%40roadrunner.com> com> wrote:
Well for what it's worth, here are my thoughts about the documentary.

It is advertized as a "Toledo Story" kind of fitting.

It follows the Jeep from Bantam to the CJ2A and the "off road rodeos". It if
quite accurate and gives credit to Bantam and Karl Probst for creating the
first prototype. From what I understand to be true the story was quite
factual and says Bantam was the ONLY company that fulfilled all the
government requirements. However all designs were shared among all three
competitors and eventually the contract contained the best of all designs
and went to the lowest bidder. Ford was given credit for the stamped grill
and Willys for the "Go Devil" engine.

The origin of the Jeep name was stated as unknown, however it gave credit to
the Willys test driver that was driving reporters around Washington DC for
calling the vehicle a Jeep. All the "possible" origins for the Jeep name
were discussed. It high lights the abilities of the Jeep. During and after
the war through the early 50s.

Ron Szymanski, previous curator of the Jeep House Museum, and Jim Allen,
author / journalist provided some narration but most was by an off screen
narrator.

I will watch the WGTE.org web site and when the DVD comes available I will
post a link.

My only complaint is really a pet peeve I have. The narrator mispronounced
the Willys name. The only person to correctly pronounce the name was Ron
Szymanski. As a matter of clarification Jim Allen didn't mispronounce
Willys, when he referred to the vehicle he called it a Jeep. This just shows
that over the years 50+ years since Kaiser bought the company people here in
Toledo have begun to pronounce the name differently. John North Willys may
be turning over in his grave!

Check out these sound bytes from the late 40s

. <>
org/willys_sound_bites.htm

I will not get off my soap box.

Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR
. <> org

1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle

Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free
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From: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
[mailto:WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com]
On
Behalf Of Jim Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:27 PM
To: WillysTech@yahoogro <mailto:WillysTech%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com
Subject: Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time
on PBS

I know it's scheduled to run in Cleveland this week, WBGU (also my
PBS station) was mentioned by WGTE personnel as being slated to run
it, as is the Cinci PBS. Not sure about Columbus. Worst case, you'd
have to buy it from WGTE (consider it a charitable contribution, I
guess). FYI, I volunteered my time and pics. Stay tuned, I guess,
Mighty Mo can give you a more unbiased review, but I assure you PA
Bantam fans that you got a fair shake. Ford too.

Jim Allen

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:05 PM, boomer@wcoil. <mailto:boomer%40wcoil.com> com
wrote:

Te Schedule varies according to the PBS station. I suggest Googling
"Jeep: Steel Soldier."

Jim Allen




On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:05 AM, John Francis wrote:

So what is the schedule for us Buckeyes?

John
First off thanks to Jim Allen for his contribution to this
documentary.

TV 30 WGTE Toledo Ohio will air the program "Jeep: Steel Soldier" on
Thursday Sept, 27 at 8:00 PM.

Alas my PBS station in the Elida, OH area is WBGU in Bowling Green
OH and
a search of their web site revels no plans to air the program.

Just my luck.

Gary K.
Elida, OH
47CJ2A:48CJ2A:66CJ5:TwoYJ's:OneXJ:



CJ2A Replacement Body

willysx1
 

Does anyone have any knowledge on the replacement bodies currently
avalible for a 47-48 CJ2A. Willys-Overland Motors claims to have a
perfect fit where others talk about might needing to do a little cut,
fit, weld. Anyone have the straight stuff on this? Contact me off
list if you don't want your comments public.


Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time on PBS

 

My Dear Ric,

I feel your pain. As an old timer whose first car was a '49 3A, I hate the continuous mispronunciation of the honored name of these automobiles. The "Willeez" pronunciation truly gives me the willies, but when I correct people (essentially everyone, nobody using the correct name), they look at me like my hair is on fire. Nonetheless, I press on regardless.

Pineneedle

Mighty Mo <cj2a@...> wrote:
Well for what it's worth, here are my thoughts about the documentary.

It is advertized as a "Toledo Story" kind of fitting.

It follows the Jeep from Bantam to the CJ2A and the "off road rodeos". It if
quite accurate and gives credit to Bantam and Karl Probst for creating the
first prototype. From what I understand to be true the story was quite
factual and says Bantam was the ONLY company that fulfilled all the
government requirements. However all designs were shared among all three
competitors and eventually the contract contained the best of all designs
and went to the lowest bidder. Ford was given credit for the stamped grill
and Willys for the "Go Devil" engine.

The origin of the Jeep name was stated as unknown, however it gave credit to
the Willys test driver that was driving reporters around Washington DC for
calling the vehicle a Jeep. All the "possible" origins for the Jeep name
were discussed. It high lights the abilities of the Jeep. During and after
the war through the early 50s.

Ron Szymanski, previous curator of the Jeep House Museum, and Jim Allen,
author / journalist provided some narration but most was by an off screen
narrator.

I will watch the WGTE.org web site and when the DVD comes available I will
post a link.

My only complaint is really a pet peeve I have. The narrator mispronounced
the Willys name. The only person to correctly pronounce the name was Ron
Szymanski. As a matter of clarification Jim Allen didn't mispronounce
Willys, when he referred to the vehicle he called it a Jeep. This just shows
that over the years 50+ years since Kaiser bought the company people here in
Toledo have begun to pronounce the name differently. John North Willys may
be turning over in his grave!

Check out these sound bytes from the late 40s



I will not get off my soap box.

Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR


1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle

Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Jim Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:27 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time
on PBS

I know it's scheduled to run in Cleveland this week, WBGU (also my
PBS station) was mentioned by WGTE personnel as being slated to run
it, as is the Cinci PBS. Not sure about Columbus. Worst case, you'd
have to buy it from WGTE (consider it a charitable contribution, I
guess). FYI, I volunteered my time and pics. Stay tuned, I guess,
Mighty Mo can give you a more unbiased review, but I assure you PA
Bantam fans that you got a fair shake. Ford too.

Jim Allen

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:05 PM, boomer@wcoil. <mailto:boomer%40wcoil.com> com
wrote:

Te Schedule varies according to the PBS station. I suggest Googling
"Jeep: Steel Soldier."

Jim Allen




On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:05 AM, John Francis wrote:

So what is the schedule for us Buckeyes?

John
First off thanks to Jim Allen for his contribution to this
documentary.

TV 30 WGTE Toledo Ohio will air the program "Jeep: Steel Soldier" on
Thursday Sept, 27 at 8:00 PM.

Alas my PBS station in the Elida, OH area is WBGU in Bowling Green
OH and
a search of their web site revels no plans to air the program.

Just my luck.

Gary K.
Elida, OH
47CJ2A:48CJ2A:66CJ5:TwoYJ's:OneXJ:



Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time on PBS

 

Well for what it's worth, here are my thoughts about the documentary.



It is advertized as a "Toledo Story" kind of fitting.



It follows the Jeep from Bantam to the CJ2A and the "off road rodeos". It if
quite accurate and gives credit to Bantam and Karl Probst for creating the
first prototype. From what I understand to be true the story was quite
factual and says Bantam was the ONLY company that fulfilled all the
government requirements. However all designs were shared among all three
competitors and eventually the contract contained the best of all designs
and went to the lowest bidder. Ford was given credit for the stamped grill
and Willys for the "Go Devil" engine.



The origin of the Jeep name was stated as unknown, however it gave credit to
the Willys test driver that was driving reporters around Washington DC for
calling the vehicle a Jeep. All the "possible" origins for the Jeep name
were discussed. It high lights the abilities of the Jeep. During and after
the war through the early 50s.



Ron Szymanski, previous curator of the Jeep House Museum, and Jim Allen,
author / journalist provided some narration but most was by an off screen
narrator.



I will watch the WGTE.org web site and when the DVD comes available I will
post a link.



My only complaint is really a pet peeve I have. The narrator mispronounced
the Willys name. The only person to correctly pronounce the name was Ron
Szymanski. As a matter of clarification Jim Allen didn't mispronounce
Willys, when he referred to the vehicle he called it a Jeep. This just shows
that over the years 50+ years since Kaiser bought the company people here in
Toledo have begun to pronounce the name differently. John North Willys may
be turning over in his grave!



Check out these sound bytes from the late 40s





I will not get off my soap box.



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Jim Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:27 PM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time
on PBS



I know it's scheduled to run in Cleveland this week, WBGU (also my
PBS station) was mentioned by WGTE personnel as being slated to run
it, as is the Cinci PBS. Not sure about Columbus. Worst case, you'd
have to buy it from WGTE (consider it a charitable contribution, I
guess). FYI, I volunteered my time and pics. Stay tuned, I guess,
Mighty Mo can give you a more unbiased review, but I assure you PA
Bantam fans that you got a fair shake. Ford too.

Jim Allen

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:05 PM, boomer@wcoil. <mailto:boomer%40wcoil.com> com
wrote:

Te Schedule varies according to the PBS station. I suggest Googling
"Jeep: Steel Soldier."

Jim Allen




On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:05 AM, John Francis wrote:

So what is the schedule for us Buckeyes?

John
First off thanks to Jim Allen for his contribution to this
documentary.

TV 30 WGTE Toledo Ohio will air the program "Jeep: Steel Soldier" on
Thursday Sept, 27 at 8:00 PM.

Alas my PBS station in the Elida, OH area is WBGU in Bowling Green
OH and
a search of their web site revels no plans to air the program.

Just my luck.

Gary K.
Elida, OH
47CJ2A:48CJ2A:66CJ5:TwoYJ's:OneXJ:



Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time on PBS

 

Ric,

I emailed our local PBS station in Dayton, OH and they responded with
the times. Looks like late November for us.

John

--- In WillysTech@..., "Mighty Mo" <cj2a@...> wrote:

Guys,



I'm sorry for teasing you all. I didn't understand that is would
not be
available everywhere.



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery
Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

<>

**
** Constants Aren't ****
** Variables Won't ****
**

_____

From: WillysTech@...
[mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Jim Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:14 AM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm
Eastern Time
on PBS



If you are outside Ohio, it will be a while before you can see,
"Jeep: Steel Soldier" on your local PBS station. It was produced by
WGTE Toledo as part of an Ohio PBS effort to make documentaries on
Ohio WWII topics to compliment the Ken Burns "The War" series. It
will run first at all the Ohio PBS stations. Makes sense. Jeep is
about as Ohio as it gets, especially for a Toledo station. I was
told
that other PBS stations around the country may pick it up as they
choose.

Shortly after it airs, I don't know how shortly, they will start
selling DVDs which can be purchased from the station (wgte.org) and
likely from the main PBS site as well at some point.

I hesitate to review something I was involved with, but I think it
hits the mark. Accurate, just the right amount of enthusiasm, a
fair
shake for each of the three companies that helped develop the
quarter-
ton and some pictures and footage you may not have seen.

Jim Allen

On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

5 PBS Channels here, and not on any of them. Crap.










Re: [WT] '58 Willys

karen graves
 

Do you know where Happy Valley or Goose Bay labrador is? dgkgcg@... I was station there for 18 mos. Dennis in IN. with a 56 Willys..

Ken Connors <kennconn69@...> wrote: Benjamin,

Thanks for the reply.The only info on the jeep I have is a gov. registration license that lists it as a'58.Her serial # on the license is 44209.There was a brass plate on the firewall but someone drilled it off and stole it.Got her running a few weeks ago and I have to adjust the clutch,change fluids,check brakesand do some mechanical work.I would like to get a manual or some other very specific info. on her before I do though.I am living in Labrador City,Newfoundland and Labraor,Canada.Presently on vacation on the island portion of the province.
Benjamin Deasis <bens33ford@...> wrote:


kennconn69 <kennconn69@...> wrote: I came into posession of a '58 last fall.Would like to find some good
part and service websites/shops/enthusiasts who could provide info to
help fixup and restore her.
==================================================
Welcome, you have found what you seek. This site is amazing. But it is a little like your computer. It has a wealth of information, you just need to know what specific questions to ask. Here is a tongue in cheek example:
I have a 1958 Willys wagon so I would assume that is what you have. So I'll jump right in and assume you are also from Canada. I would recommend that you search the archives first. It is a very useful place. (THANKS BRIAN)
Of course my assumptions are probably wrong but then "58" was all I had to go on!
:)
Use this link to get started & just type in a keyword or question.



or cut & paste this entire link


Seriously. welcome to the list.

Benjamin N. CA.
58 2 WD wagon "under construction"

63 4 WD sedan delivery "Parkway"

33 Ford Cabriolet

1951 Parkway, 1958 Rambler, 2002 Tbird Roadster

95 Harley



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Re: [WT] '58 Willys

 

Bill,
Thanks for responding.My Jeep has a window on each side to the rear of the cab.She has a rear hatch that swings up and a tailgate that swings down.The registration does have a model location but it is blank.Only other reference that may help ID her may be a number on the water pump housing.Maybe??I don't know of anything else.She did have a plate on the firewall but some P$&%K recently drilled the rivets and took it.

Bill Chalfant <bchalf@...> wrote:
I think we still need some more info. A wagon is configured like a
current day SUV (with more style, of course) with 2 doors and a rear
hatch that swings up and a tailgate that swings down. Most will have a
sliding window behind each door and a fixed window behind that. Does
that sound like what you have? Or do you have something that "looks
like a Jeep" and has a hard top?

The serial number that you reference could fall into the category for a
CJ3B produced in 1958. Does the registration you have also have a
location for a model number? Or does it have 57348 anywhere in the
nomenclature?

Bill
Lake Stevens, WA
'58 Utility Wagon 4x4 "Scallywag"
'59 Utility Wagon 4x4

--- In WillysTech@..., Ken Connors <kennconn69@...> wrote:

Kurt,Thanks for the reply.Do not know exactly what type.She had a
plate on the firewall with some info but someone drilled it off
recently and its GONE.Her serial # on gov. registration is 44209.Not
much to go on.I'm assuming she is a wagon.She has the body of a Jeep
with tailgate and cab from windshield to the tailgate.I live in
Labrador City,Newfoundland and Labrador,Canada.





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Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time on PBS

 

Guys,



I'm sorry for teasing you all. I didn't understand that is would not be
available everywhere.



Ric -.
Toledo, Ohio
Home of the World Famous JeepR




1948 - CJ2A L134 - #149488 - Mighty Mo
1948 - CJ2A L134 - #156174 - Ole Blue
1948 - CJ2A 225 V6 - #184134 - Willy
1950 - T3-C - #16517 Bantam Trailer.
1953 - CJ3A L134 453-GB1-18612
1963-5? - Wagoneer
1982 - M416 - Still 24 Volt
1989 - XJ - Cherokee Laredo -4.0L
2004 - Dodge Durango 4x4 w/car trailer - WRV(tm) - Willys Recovery Vehicle



Never Forget September 11, 2001
Freedom isn't free

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From: WillysTech@... [mailto:WillysTech@...] On
Behalf Of Jim Allen
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:14 AM
To: WillysTech@...
Subject: Re: [WT] The story of Jeep Thursday 9/27/07 at 8:00pm Eastern Time
on PBS



If you are outside Ohio, it will be a while before you can see,
"Jeep: Steel Soldier" on your local PBS station. It was produced by
WGTE Toledo as part of an Ohio PBS effort to make documentaries on
Ohio WWII topics to compliment the Ken Burns "The War" series. It
will run first at all the Ohio PBS stations. Makes sense. Jeep is
about as Ohio as it gets, especially for a Toledo station. I was told
that other PBS stations around the country may pick it up as they
choose.

Shortly after it airs, I don't know how shortly, they will start
selling DVDs which can be purchased from the station (wgte.org) and
likely from the main PBS site as well at some point.

I hesitate to review something I was involved with, but I think it
hits the mark. Accurate, just the right amount of enthusiasm, a fair
shake for each of the three companies that helped develop the quarter-
ton and some pictures and footage you may not have seen.

Jim Allen

On Sep 25, 2007, at 8:44 PM, Keith Johnson wrote:

5 PBS Channels here, and not on any of them. Crap.



Re: [WT] '58 Willys

 

I think we still need some more info. A wagon is configured like a
current day SUV (with more style, of course) with 2 doors and a rear
hatch that swings up and a tailgate that swings down. Most will have a
sliding window behind each door and a fixed window behind that. Does
that sound like what you have? Or do you have something that "looks
like a Jeep" and has a hard top?

The serial number that you reference could fall into the category for a
CJ3B produced in 1958. Does the registration you have also have a
location for a model number? Or does it have 57348 anywhere in the
nomenclature?

Bill
Lake Stevens, WA
'58 Utility Wagon 4x4 "Scallywag"
'59 Utility Wagon 4x4

--- In WillysTech@..., Ken Connors <kennconn69@...> wrote:

Kurt,Thanks for the reply.Do not know exactly what type.She had a
plate on the firewall with some info but someone drilled it off
recently and its GONE.Her serial # on gov. registration is 44209.Not
much to go on.I'm assuming she is a wagon.She has the body of a Jeep
with tailgate and cab from windshield to the tailgate.I live in
Labrador City,Newfoundland and Labrador,Canada.


Re: [WT] '58 Willys

 

Kurt,Thanks for the reply.Do not know exactly what type.She had a plate on the firewall with some info but someone drilled it off recently and its GONE.Her serial # on gov. registration is 44209.Not much to go on.I'm assuming she is a wagon.She has the body of a Jeep with tailgate and cab from windshield to the tailgate.I live in Labrador City,Newfoundland and Labrador,Canada.

Kurt Valentine <KValent118@...> wrote: Welcome to the site, but a bit more information might be helpful like what
type of '58 and where you might be located.

Kurt V
'60 Wagon
Jefferson City, MO

On 9/19/07, kennconn69 <kennconn69@...> wrote:

I came into posession of a '58 last fall.Would like to find some good
part and service websites/shops/enthusiasts who could provide info to
help fixup and restore her.

Thanks
Ken









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Re: [WT] '58 Willys

 

Benjamin,

Thanks for the reply.The only info on the jeep I have is a gov. registration license that lists it as a'58.Her serial # on the license is 44209.There was a brass plate on the firewall but someone drilled it off and stole it.Got her running a few weeks ago and I have to adjust the clutch,change fluids,check brakesand do some mechanical work.I would like to get a manual or some other very specific info. on her before I do though.I am living in Labrador City,Newfoundland and Labraor,Canada.Presently on vacation on the island portion of the province.
Benjamin Deasis <bens33ford@...> wrote:


kennconn69 <kennconn69@...> wrote: I came into posession of a '58 last fall.Would like to find some good
part and service websites/shops/enthusiasts who could provide info to
help fixup and restore her.
==================================================
Welcome, you have found what you seek. This site is amazing. But it is a little like your computer. It has a wealth of information, you just need to know what specific questions to ask. Here is a tongue in cheek example:
I have a 1958 Willys wagon so I would assume that is what you have. So I'll jump right in and assume you are also from Canada. I would recommend that you search the archives first. It is a very useful place. (THANKS BRIAN)
Of course my assumptions are probably wrong but then "58" was all I had to go on!
:)
Use this link to get started & just type in a keyword or question.



or cut & paste this entire link


Seriously. welcome to the list.

Benjamin N. CA.
58 2 WD wagon "under construction"

63 4 WD sedan delivery "Parkway"

33 Ford Cabriolet

1951 Parkway, 1958 Rambler, 2002 Tbird Roadster

95 Harley








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Re: [WT] pattern for location of body holes

Alexander Dogga
 

Bill,
thank you for your response. The jeep has a delivery date of April 19, 1945. I assume that makes it a 1945 model. It is a willys mb, not a ford. that for sure as I see no "f" anywhere and there is an I.D. tag on the front left frame.
thanks again, Alex

----- Original Message -----
From: derklandwm@...
To: WillysTech@...
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WT] pattern for location of body holes


Alex,
What is the model and year of your jeep?
Bill
49CJ3A

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "alexande1r" <VLLAS@...>
hello,
does anyone know if templates are avaliable to determine where the
proper mounting holes are to be located? my jeep has a multitude of
drilled holes for accessories that were added during the years and i
can't tell which are original, and which are not.
thank you, alex


Re: [WT] original bolt finish

 

Hi Duane,

thanks for the info on the footman loops. I'll keep lookin' on the
bolts, if I have to replace any, the modern bolts, washers and nuts
are all zinc plated, which doesn't paint so well, or look good mixed
with the originals.... what to do? what to do?

i know the footman loops were black, i remember this from my dads
46... the bolts i don't
know but i remember a few emails on this and i think they decided
that they were black...
i would think they would be painted the same color as the
surrounding metal.. but what
do i know i'm just an old guy with drs...(don't remember s__t)
duane
--- DRD <<mailto:drdelano%40yahoo.com>drdelano@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm still working on my CJ2a, my question is... what was the
original finish
on the bolts & screws inside the cockpit? Were they blued, unpainted or
what? How 'bout the footman loops and screws? I could ask my uncle who
was a mechanic during the last big war but he probably would think I was
mad. I looked on the WT database but they only have lots of questions about
the wheel color. Thanks for any help.

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Re: [WT] pattern for location of body holes

 

Alex,
What is the model and year of your jeep?
Bill
49CJ3A

-------------- Original message --------------
From: "alexande1r" <VLLAS@...>
hello,
does anyone know if templates are avaliable to determine where the
proper mounting holes are to be located? my jeep has a multitude of
drilled holes for accessories that were added during the years and i
can't tell which are original, and which are not.
thank you, alex


The Flyingn Jeep? - was Re: Fork-n-Jeep : Re Donny Dickey

Donny H. Dickey
 

" Preliminary tests involved loading a Jeep with concrete and dropping
it from heights of up to 7 ft. 8 in. (2.35 m.), demonstrating that the
standard vehicle could survive undamaged from impacts of up to 11g."


--- In WillysTech@..., "Donny H. Dickey" <b.i.x@...> wrote:

Too cool! I'll be hitting google shortly. Well that pretty much
covers everything, then. Well, ALMOST.

I know the eviromental controls will be tricky, but come on: isn't
about time we got a Willys into space?

--- In WillysTech@..., <aussierob2@> wrote:

Donny, Are you saying that jeeps were converted to everything
other than an aircraft.
Because there were two version of the flying jeep.
They used the helicopter principle.
A tower was built between the driver and the passenger seats.
That tower housed the main rotor support bearings.

If you search the internet you will possibly find the pictures of the
two versions.
I have no idea if these things actually flew ???

They were called the "FLEEP" for Flying Jeep.

It was tried sometime during the second world war.

Robbo

Re: Fork-n-Jeep? Posted by: "Donny H. Dickey"
b.i.x@ bixis2 Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:46 am (PST)

Other than air craft, is there ANYTHING that Jeeps
haven't been converted to?
DHD







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