softrock40 not working!
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Hello Folks,
I just got my Softrock40 kit assembled. I also wrote a GNURadio
program to tune around the +-24khz BW. I plugged in the board and the
green LED glows, but do not hear anything. The coax is not connected
to the antenna. I checked the signals on clocks with my scope (which
cannot accurately measure the frequency at the moment, but there is a
signal there).
Since I do not run Windows at home, and since I do not want to have
too many variables, I am at another place which has a WinXP machine. I
installed all the software (rocky, powerSDR, powedSDRconsole,
sdradio). Currently I am using sdradio to see whether some signal is
coming out. I just cannot hear anything other than the carrier at
7056000, which happens to be there even when I take the audio cable
out of the soundcard input.
I do not have any other signal generator like the XG1 being used by
many of you. Is there some way I can verify that the hardware is
working?
The noise floor is at around -100dbm on SDradio.
When I touch the down portion of the PCB near oscillator, the noise
floow rises to -50 dbm. But I still cannot hear any stations. Again, I
haven't connected an antenna to the cable.
On teh software side, thanks to Cecil and others, I have afew sample
files, which I hope to make use to test my gnuradio script. If it
works with the files, it should work without any issues with
softrock40 too.
I searched the email archives, looks like Stan has faced similar
problem too. I will be touching up all the solder joints again and
trying and will also try to tune my main rig to oscillator frequencies
to see if it is working fine.
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73 - Ramakrishnan, VU3RDD
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SR40 noise and spurs
Has anyone tried using surface mount components vs pin-in-hole to see
if there is any reduction in the above ? I'm using the external PS and will
try surface mount in a few days.
73 Kees K5BCQ
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Rocky w/Noise [Oooops!]
Oooops!
Gotta remember to change addresses when I want to reply to a message that
isn't intended for the group...[g]
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Rocky on 30
Bruce,
I have it running here on 30 now. Unfortunately the band is mostly DED
just now...[g]
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Rocky - setup error
Alex,
The program starts normally, I can see the main
screen. It appears to be OK. When I move the cursor around the frequency
'readout' changes. When I go to 'setting' I'm getting an error: Access
Violation... in module Rocky.exe. Read of address 00000004
When I click OK, I can see the dialog box,
but the drop down list is blank, for both input and output audio. So, I can't
select an input or output device. When I exit the program I get the error
messsage again.
I'm using an IBM laptop, 1.2GHz, with Windows
2000 - all the latest patches. I've been running SDR1.4.4 with no problems. I
sometime use a USB plantronics headset and it appears as an additional
input/output device. I rebooted with the headset unplugged but the problem still
persists.
It looks like a useful piece of
software!
- Walter
VE7WRS / JQ2PLP
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Divide by 2 Phase Shifter
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In August 1973 Ham Radio, WA0JYK used a digital phase shifter in a 75m
SSB phasing type receiver that only required the clock to only be
divided by 2 instead of 4. The chips were ECL D type Flip Flops and
differential Schmitt triggers now out of date, but I was wondering if
something like this would help. It would make the clock frequency only
half of what is presently used in the Softrock 40.
And I quote from the text, "A single inexpensive IC, a Motorola
MC1035P, provides a crystal oscillator, a Schmitt trigger and a
differential output amplifier. The differential square-wave outputs
from this stage are at the crystal frequency and, of course, 180 degrees
out of phase. These square waves are divided by two in a switch-tail
ring counter which also provides synchronization to the phase
quadrature, regardless of turn on or turn off of the receiver."
He gives the following reference:
G.K. Shubert, WA0JYK, "A Digital 90 Degree RF Phase Shifter," The
Electronic Engineer, August, 1971
Attached is a schematic of the phase shifter and a spec sheet on the D
type flip flops used.
I don't know if the delays would be matched in something like this or
not, or what other problems exist in this kind of design, but I would
like to throw it out for discussion. I am sure modern IC's could be
obtained to perform the same functions.
Bill, WB5TCO
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Replacement for OPA2228UA
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Hello Softrock Fans !
Unfortunately the Kits are sold out. I will give it a try to build
mine from scratch.
I have all the parts, but not the TI OPA2228 UA. Not that easy to
access here in Europe.
1) Has anyone experiences with the performance of NE5532(A) or LT1037
? That are the replaced chips i found in the OPA2228UA-Datasheet.
2) Maybe you know more to replace with ?!
Thanks for your help !
73 de Oliver, DL6KBG DRESDEN SAXONY
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Version 5 SoftRock, anyone?
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Hello Everyone,
I am working on a version 5.0 of the SoftRock receiver and want to
see if there is interest enough to do a kit. The version 5.0
SoftRock oscillator will be at the fundamental frequency and depend
on 90 degree phase shift network to generate the quadrature clocks
for the QSD. This should give more flexibility in finding suitable
crystals for various bands.
The version 5.0 will consist of a two board stack with each board
having dimensions about 1 inch by 1.5 inches. The bottom board of
the stack with have a 5 VDC regulator, two voltage comparitors, the
QSD circuit and the low noise audio amplifiers. The upper board
will contain the oscillator circuit, the 90 degree phase shift
network, and the BPF for the desired band. The two boards will be
joined electrically by a row of header pins on the top board and the
corresponding sockets on the lower board. A threaded standoff
between the two boards will provide for mechanically holding the
upper board to the lower board. Corner mounting holes will be
provided on the lower board.
External electrical connections to the lower board will include,
supply voltage (9-12 VDC), an antenna input and a stereo audio cable
for line-in connection to the PC.
Target kit price is in the mid-twenty dollar range for one set of
boards and components for a single band. Additional band kits might
be on the order of $12 each with 80 meters through 30 meters and
possibly 20 meters also covered.
Please let me know if there would be any interest in such a kit.
Thanks and 73,
Tony KB9YIG
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SharpDSP Mini Console for the SoftRock 40 now available...
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Get it at http://www.philcovington.com/SDR.html
Run the program... Click on Setup and make the appropriate changes for
your sound card (Source/Sink), select your desired sampling rate and
block size, and then Click on Start...
I/Q balance can be adjusted manually as well as s-meter level
correction on the Levels->Correction menu.
If you are using a different crystal you can enter the center
frequency on the Setup->Center Freq menu. It defaults to 7.056 Mhz
Note that the DSB/LSB/USB/CW modes are combined into one selection
right now. This is because the only difference between those modes is
the filter values.
The high and low filter values can be set between +/- 8000
Hz individually so you can tune USB - LSB - DSB - CWL - CWU - ISB - etc..
Other modes are AM, SAM, FM, and SPEC. I will add the individual
SSB/DSB modes in the next release since it only involves shifting the
filters around.
Configuration settings are saved in a file called softrock.config.xml
in the application's folder. It is an XML file so you can edit/view
it with a text editor or web browser if desired.
If you changed the sampling rate or block size you need to click the
Stop button and then the Start button for the changes to take effect.
The code was written with the open source SharpDevelop IDE. I hope
that this will get people interested in writing their own code. It is
also meant as a demonstration of how to use the SharpDSP library.
This is a pre-Alpha release so expect some bugs. This preliminary
release supports:
* Sample rates up to 96000 Hz
* Selectable block sizes from 64 to 8192
* Settings are saved in a text editable XML file (softrock.config.xml)
* Center frequency can be set for other bands besides 40 meters.
* Very low resource requirements (should help on older machines)
Future updates will include the following features:
* Dual receive capability within the Rx passband
* Analog S-meter
* Panadapter Display
* TCP CAT support
* Serial CAT support
* TCP Audio Server support
* Much more...
report problems/bugs to Phil Covington, N8VB at p.covington@...
73 de Phil N8VB
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IQ recordings from softrock40?
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Hi Cecil,
I am working on a simple commandline demodulator for softrock40 using
gnuradio. I haven't yet assembled my kit yet. Do you have a recording
of the I and Q samples from the soundcard input, which I can use to
test my software? May be just a 30 second one will do.
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73 - Ramakrishnan, VU3RDD
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SR-40 on 80m
I'm building a very simple DSB Tx using an SA602 with a 3.6864 Mz crystal. 4
x 3.6864 = 14.7456 and crystals on that frequency aren't all that hard to
find (both frequencies are used for UART baud-rate generation). If I can get
hold of one I'll convert my SR-40 to an SR-80.
73, Leon
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Leon Heller, G1HSM
leon.heller@...
http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
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SharpDSP Mini Console update and notes...
Hi all,
I posted an update at http://www.philcovington.com/SDR.html
Also, I added a blog entry on 10/12/2005 at
http://pcovington.blogspot.com/
that describes how to manually calibrate the Image rejection, display
frequency, and s-meter on the SharpDSP Mini Console.
There are a few bugfixes and additions to this version.
73 de Phil N8VB
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Power SDR going deaf?
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I initially started using the soft rock with the Power SDR software
but last night downloaded the SDRadio and am hearing a lot more
signals with it. I was able to easily null the image in the Power SDR
setup and when there are a lot of siganls I don't notice anything
except that it sounds real nice.
So, I was wondering if anyone else has done and A/B with the 2 pieces
of software and were able to tell a difference?
Chris N7UJU
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SoftRock40-Version5 - Exciter Card
Hi Tony,
The concept of the QRP SDR exciter card sounds great. Everyone on the
planet (including myself) will want at least two!
- Please elaborate on such
prospects (We are in suspense).
- Should we purchase the SoftRock40-Version5
and wait for the third (exciter) card or is the entire design likely to change
with the addition of an exciter
Thanks again and (((73)))
Jim WA2UMP
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SharpDSP Mini Console for the SoftRock 40 bugfix #1...
Thanks to Bruce N1RX, the first bug in the SharpDSP Mini Console for
the SoftRock 40 has been corrected. The updated binary and source are
on my webpage.
73 de Phil N8VB
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SR-40 Working
After much delay from working late, and lousy eyes, I finished
building my SR-40.
With much anticipation, I hook it up to a antenna and nothing, drats!
Well I tuned around real slow, and I could barely hear a station, it
was way into the noise, unreadable.
I fired up the TS-940 and the band is deader than a doornail, at
7.038 I pick up a very weak beacon, so I hooked the TS-940 into a
dummy load crank it down to two watts, and lo and behold there is a
signal there on the SR-40.
I changed the crystal frequency setting to 7.05427 in the FlexSDR
software, and now SR-40 is dead on the money, go to look for the
image signal, nothing there, moved the sliders and noted where it was
10 dB, noted what it was on the other side of the slider and put it
in the middle, it's at the center of the slider, this unit was dead
on the money out of the box.
Thanks guys for a great little radio, I'm going to have fun with this guy.
I received the crystals from Mouser for 8.830 MHz, in a couple of
days that will be the next project.
Cecil Bayona
KD5NWA
www.qrpradio.com
I fail to see why doing the same thing over and over and getting the
same results every time is insanity: I've almost proved it isn't;
only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ...
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V5.0 SoftRock design
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Good Morning All,
There has been good response to doing a version 5.0 SoftRock so I
started the board layout this morning.
The board size of 1 inch by 1.5 inches for the top and bottom boards
looks like a good fit for what needs to go on each board. The bottom
board will have the four corner mounting holes with the holes sized
for #4 hardware. A 10-pin connector will be located along one of
the 1.5 inch sides of the bottom board to mate to a corresponding
row of pins on the top board. Pins on the top board will be double
ended to pass power/ground and various signals up to a possible
third board for future use. (Future use could include a transmit
function.)
A receiver mute connection will be provided on the bottom board and
require a logic low signal to mute the receiver.
Schematic and board layout will be done in the ExpressPCB software.
The ExpressPCB software is free to download from the internet and as
I get the design entered I will post the files for others to exam.
I hope to have the design files in pretty good shape by the end of
this week.
If the design looks like it will fly, I want to get boards and other
parts on order the week of October 17 so that kits can go out to
alpha testers the first week of November. Fifty kits in the alpha
run looks possible with kit price in the mid-twenty dollar range.
Your inputs would be appreciated.
73,
Tony KB9YIG
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V5.0 SoftRock design (volunteer for alpha testing)
Hi, Tony.
Sounds real good. Put me on the list as an alpha test volunteer.
Would be willing to evaluate each board as it becomes available.
(i.e. main Rx board, plus each band/filter board, plus TX when
available.)
73, Bruce N1RX
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VS: Version 5 SoftRock, anyone?
Hi,
YES please.
Count me in, I'll order one of these kits.
Jarmo Blomster
oh8kva
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