Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
That's the great thing about Linux, choice, and the ability to make it your own.
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We all have our favorites too :-)
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We're a big CentOS / Rocky Linux user at work (tens of thousands of machines running K8 workloads aka the "private cloud"). I've warmed up to essentially the "RedHat" way of doing things.
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Some 24 years ago now the place I was working at had DEC Alphas running Tru64 Unix. Those things were amazing, and Tru64 had all the LVM stuff back then. From that I have a soft spot for Unix, FreeBSD is my favorite one there. I'm a big Mac user which under the hood is FreeBSD and NeXT smashed together (over simplification) with very nice UI ontop.
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I've tried a few, Debian is the one I seem to come back to for my own stuff at home, where Linux is the best choice for something.
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- Lonney
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 06:55 AM, Richard Shaw, KF5OIM wrote:
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of course that also makes it easy to find me if you have a problem.
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Re: #flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
On 30/10/2024 00:26, Brian Morrison ,G8SEZ via groups.io wrote: On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 09:03:55 -0700
"Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io" <gm3zza@...>
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I noticed an issue this afternoon. When I read the power meter from
flrig for IC-705 using XMLRPC command, this returns a value. However
there is no value displayed in either the meters dialog nor in the
main dialog.
I am using flrig ...5.70.
I have had a brief look through the code and I can't see anything
wrong.
Also IDD isn't displaying, but I can see the code is not there for
that in IC705.cxx. There's a .77 version, maybe there is a relevant change in that
although I can't see anything in the readme.txt
Doh! I forgot I had to enable polling for the IC-705 configuration. I had been using it for so long with IC-7300. Now enabled all polling and everything looks OK. I updated to .77 and I noticed that the IDD meter is now greyed out. So, thanks. I'll have a look at what needs to be done to read IDD. It's one I occasionally use when remote operating, but might not be so useful on IC-705 where TX standing current does not register as the IC-7300 where a standing current of 3A sticks out like a sore thumb more than PO of 0W. 73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
Good to read the recommendations, many from experts.
While I would not claim to be expert, I have many years certified
experience of Linux in the workplace and home.
My two cents worth, FWIW, is there is a big difference between
introducing a new user to Linux and what distro suits an old hand,
familiar with the architecture and comfortable with compiling
source and needing bleeding edge versions of apps.
So, what's my vote? Start the new user with Mint-Cinnamon, a
stable and well supported member of the Debian family, with
extensive support for Amateur radio. The environment is like
enough to Win and Mac not to cause panic in the newcomer. After
finding out how it works and is organized, take a look at several
other distros, with different packaging. Then, get to know a
favorite one as best you can, but stay familiar with the most
current others.
My own preference now? Mostly Arch, but then I'm not just
starting out. -But I suspect that the original question of which
distro was from a beginner, so that is the question we
should answer?
Hope it helps some,
73, John, KX4QC
(Linux+ Cert Prof 2007)
On 10/29/24 20:41, Neil Hanlon, N1HAN
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Hey Richard,
Good to see you here! Do let me know if you
would like any help with any of the package maintenance.
My FAS username is just "neil". Fairly new to ham, less so
to packaging, but still looking to improve my abilities in
both areas :)
Neil N1HAN
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024,
10:55 Richard Shaw, KF5OIM via <hobbes1069= [email protected]>
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A lot of other distros are build from
Debian. Start with that or one of its more
user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are
some ham radio specific editions out there
too. These take the work out of installing the
ham radio applications.
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but
full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and
maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of
course that also makes it easy to find me if you
have a problem.
Thanks,
Richard
KF5OIM?
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
Hey Richard,
Good to see you here! Do let me know if you would like any help with any of the package maintenance. My FAS username is just "neil". Fairly new to ham, less so to packaging, but still looking to improve my abilities in both areas :)
Neil N1HAN
On Tue, Oct 29, 2024, 10:55 Richard Shaw, KF5OIM via <hobbes1069= [email protected]> wrote: A lot of other distros are build from Debian. Start with that or one of its more user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are some ham radio specific editions out there too. These take the work out of installing the ham radio applications.
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of course that also makes it easy to find me if you have a problem.
Thanks, Richard
KF5OIM?
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Re: #flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 09:03:55 -0700 "Philip Rose, GM3ZZA via groups.io" <gm3zza@...> wrote: I noticed an issue this afternoon. When I read the power meter from
flrig for IC-705 using XMLRPC command, this returns a value. However
there is no value displayed in either the meters dialog nor in the
main dialog.
I am using flrig ...5.70.
I have had a brief look through the code and I can't see anything
wrong.
Also IDD isn't displaying, but I can see the code is not there for
that in IC705.cxx. There's a .77 version, maybe there is a relevant change in that although I can't see anything in the readme.txt -- Brian G8SEZ
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
I use ubuntu with x-ubuntu.? Everything works fine.
I generally compile things such as WSJT-X from source, but occasionally get the distro package. On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 9:23?PM Michael K Johnson, KZ4LY via <mcdanlj= [email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 06:34 PM, Richard Shaw, KF5OIM wrote:
For Fedora, I maintain most of the ham radio related packages
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Thank you for that work!
I'm very new to ham radio (just a couple of weeks in, trying to learn everything I can) but not exactly new to Fedora, and found this thread while exploring what software I can install for various digital modes and control. Is it trivially easy to list the ham radio packages you so kindly maintain in Fedora?
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#flrig Lack of power meter display for IC-705.
#flrig
I noticed an issue this afternoon. When I read the power meter from flrig for IC-705 using XMLRPC command, this returns a value. However there is no value displayed in either the meters dialog nor in the main dialog.
I am using flrig ...5.70.
I have had a brief look through the code and I can't see anything wrong.
Also IDD isn't displaying, but I can see the code is not there for that in IC705.cxx.
73 Phil GM3ZZA
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
Hi Everybody,
"Best" is rather subjective, but I'd like to remind folks about an Ubuntu based software collection that is easy for you to install and might meet your needs:
Andy's Ham Radio Linux
Full disclosure: I'm Andy :-)
I have made this software collection available for about 13 years. There have been over 100,000 downloads over that time.
Please look here for more information:
Version 26b-beta is the latest. It is installed on top of whatever Ubuntu/Debian based software you're already using. It has also been tested on Raspberry Pi 4/5.
Please be sure to read the GETTING_STARTED guide.
Have fun(!) and 73,
Andy
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Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ)
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
A lot of other distros are build from Debian. Start with that or one of its more user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are some ham radio specific editions out there too. These take the work out of installing the ham radio applications.
I'll always put in a word for Fedora, but full disclosure, I'm a Fedora packager and maintain most of the Ham Radio applications. Of course that also makes it easy to find me if you have a problem.
Thanks, Richard
KF5OIM?
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
A lot of other distros are build from Debian. Start with that or one of its more user friendly derivatives such as Mint.
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Others have likely noted that there are some ham radio specific editions out there too. These take the work out of installing the ham radio applications.
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
I use Suse and GnuRadio is included in the offerings. A subscription is $50 for the enterprise desktop. I am asking if Suse can fit in this amateur community?? Thank you in advance. I want to learn and to be of help
PeaceBridgeNetworks.net ? N9pno George Kirn had contact with this data.
On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 10:06?PM Michael K Johnson, KZ4LY via <mcdanlj= [email protected]> wrote:
OK, someone else to thank! I started with those two queries, filtering out a few internet streaming radio programs, and looked for all the W1HKJ software I could find.
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This is what I've done so far in a Fedora 41 toolbox:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio{,-{devel,doc,examples}} python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng ?gqrx fllog rtl-433{,-devel} LinLog fbb{,-{doc,gui}} soundmodem{,-devel} tlf cqrlog hamlib{,-{c++{,-devel},devel,doc}} python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds{,-{devel,doc}} klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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That brace-expands to:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio gnuradio-devel gnuradio-doc gnuradio-examples python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng gqrx fllog rtl-433 rtl-433-devel LinLog fbb fbb-doc fbb-gui soundmodem soundmodem-devel tlf cqrlog hamlib hamlib-c++ hamlib-c++-devel hamlib-devel hamlib-doc python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds gr-rds-devel gr-rds-doc klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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I have a lot to explore now!
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
OK, someone else to thank! I started with those two queries, filtering out a few internet streaming radio programs, and looked for all the W1HKJ software I could find.
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This is what I've done so far in a Fedora 41 toolbox:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio{,-{devel,doc,examples}} python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng ?gqrx fllog rtl-433{,-devel} LinLog fbb{,-{doc,gui}} soundmodem{,-devel} tlf cqrlog hamlib{,-{c++{,-devel},devel,doc}} python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds{,-{devel,doc}} klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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That brace-expands to:
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sudo dnf install gnome-radio gnuradio gnuradio-devel gnuradio-doc gnuradio-examples python3-gnuradio goodvibes radiotray-ng gqrx fllog rtl-433 rtl-433-devel LinLog fbb fbb-doc fbb-gui soundmodem soundmodem-devel tlf cqrlog hamlib hamlib-c++ hamlib-c++-devel hamlib-devel hamlib-doc python3-hamlib ax25-apps flnet gr-rds gr-rds-devel gr-rds-doc klog klog twlog xpsk31 lpsk31 rust-hamming+default-devel xconvers xfhell callgit dxcc dxcc-gui fldigi flarq flrig flmsg flamp fllog flnet flwkey flcluster
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I have a lot to explore now!
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
o/ Also a Fedora maintainer and ham, here.
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The ham-related space on Fedora is pretty decent, and I've been working on packaging other things as I find them (pretty rare). Lots of SDR utilties already there, though it can always be improved. If you find something you can't get in Fedora, I'd be happy to poke at it for ya. There's already gnuradio, hamlib, rtl stuff, ax.25 stuff, and more.
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73
neil
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Re: Best Linux for Ham Radio
On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 06:34 PM, Richard Shaw, KF5OIM wrote:
For Fedora, I maintain most of the ham radio related packages
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Thank you for that work!
I'm very new to ham radio (just a couple of weeks in, trying to learn everything I can) but not exactly new to Fedora, and found this thread while exploring what software I can install for various digital modes and control. Is it trivially easy to list the ham radio packages you so kindly maintain in Fedora?
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Re: FLAMP start transmit doesn't transmit, cancel transmit doesn't cancel
Hi Richard
I also had some TX problems with 2.2.13 such that I returned to
2.2.12.04. I don't however remember the detailed reason, maybe my
bi-directional modem syncing. It resolved with 2.2.14.
A new config file is always a good test too. eg close flamp,
rename ~/.nbems/FLAMP/FLAMP.prefs to something else. Restart flamp
and just plug in your callsign before doing some tests with the
default settings.
Cheers Bob VK2YQA
On 27/10/24 00:12, Richard Jackson,
KD8NOA wrote:
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FLAMP version 2.2.13.??
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Sometimes xmit in FLAMP works but mostly xmit doesn't work
and even a full reboot doesn't fix it.?
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I don't know how to troubleshoot the problem.? I did read the
online documentation, I may have missed something.? Should I
change to an earlier or later version?? Is there a reset to
factory defaults option that I missed???
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Setup: open flamp.? Connected.? Click transmit tab.? Click
add.? Navigate to .nbems/FLAMP/rx/ and find a previously
received file, click open.? File name is inserted into the File:
field in FLAMP and shows in transmit queue.?
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Other settings are default: blk size 64, xmt rpt: 1, hdr rpt:
1, #blks 4, comp is off, transmit unproto is off, nothing in
blocks. I tried with comp off and on, no difference.??
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Click xmit and the transmitter is not keyed.? It appears that
FLAMP thinks that it is transmitting but nothing shows in the
FLDIGI yellow screen and the water continues to fall - no
transmit in waterfall.? Click cancel and FLAMP thinks that it is
still transmitting and "Xmit" and "xmit all" buttons are grayed
out.??
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Configure: call sign and info set, auto sync digi to amp is
set, auto sync amp to digi is set, change digi mode is set,
enable Tx on report is set, warn user when removing files is
set, clear missing blocks is set, save relay data is set,
autosave rx data on 100% is set, enable tx/rx interval is set.?
All others are off.??
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Transmit in fldigi works (enter text in the blue box and
click T/R works).? Transmit in js8call works.? Receive in FLAMP
works.??
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hardware: raspberry pi 4b, radio=Yaesu ft-710, flrig is
controlling the radio.??
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FLAMP start transmit doesn't transmit, cancel transmit doesn't cancel
FLAMP version 2.2.13.??
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Sometimes xmit in FLAMP works but mostly xmit doesn't work and even a full reboot doesn't fix it.?
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I don't know how to troubleshoot the problem.? I did read the online documentation, I may have missed something.? Should I change to an earlier or later version?? Is there a reset to factory defaults option that I missed???
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Setup: open flamp.? Connected.? Click transmit tab.? Click add.? Navigate to .nbems/FLAMP/rx/ and find a previously received file, click open.? File name is inserted into the File: field in FLAMP and shows in transmit queue.?
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Other settings are default: blk size 64, xmt rpt: 1, hdr rpt: 1, #blks 4, comp is off, transmit unproto is off, nothing in blocks. I tried with comp off and on, no difference.??
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Click xmit and the transmitter is not keyed.? It appears that FLAMP thinks that it is transmitting but nothing shows in the FLDIGI yellow screen and the water continues to fall - no transmit in waterfall.? Click cancel and FLAMP thinks that it is still transmitting and "Xmit" and "xmit all" buttons are grayed out.??
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Configure: call sign and info set, auto sync digi to amp is set, auto sync amp to digi is set, change digi mode is set, enable Tx on report is set, warn user when removing files is set, clear missing blocks is set, save relay data is set, autosave rx data on 100% is set, enable tx/rx interval is set.? All others are off.??
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Transmit in fldigi works (enter text in the blue box and click T/R works).? Transmit in js8call works.? Receive in FLAMP works.??
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hardware: raspberry pi 4b, radio=Yaesu ft-710, flrig is controlling the radio.??
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Robert,
Thank you for the idea.? I will give it a try. 73
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Hello!
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Hope this is the right place to post this request.? I use hamlib in a seperate computer that just manage my transceiver and rotator with Hamlib.? Im using Qlog as my main logging programs, but I would love to use flrig as a virtual radio display/control.? But would not like to change hamlib been the manager/contoller of the radio.? Would it be possible to add that capability to flrig? to use hamlib as server over the network?? I know hamlib can connect to flrig, but havent found anything on the internet to the way I want...
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Thanks in advance,
Joel, WE0DX
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Hello,
It sounds like the Ubuntu upgrade also has a later version of MySQL, and the newer version no longer has a dependency that fldigi is looking for.?
You could try installing an older version of MySQL from the same time frame as fldigi, unless the fldigi docs plainly state why version of MySQL it is looking for.?
Robert KG4KGL
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On Oct 24, 2024, at 22:15, Bill, K4AJ <K4AJ@...> wrote:
? Apparently many ham radio Linux applications have some linkage with MySQL.? for example FLDIGI, and a number of logging programs.
I recently upgraded from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 and had several MySQL errors upon upgrade.
Now when I install FLDIGI or Klog, I get following error message:
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E: mysql-server-8.0: installed mysql-server-8.0 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
E: default-mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
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I also removed MySQL and reinstalled it and get same type of errors.
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Anyone have ideas.? Thanks
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Apparently many ham radio Linux applications have some linkage with MySQL.? for example FLDIGI, and a number of logging programs.
I recently upgraded from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04 and had several MySQL errors upon upgrade.
Now when I install FLDIGI or Klog, I get following error message:
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E: mysql-server-8.0: installed mysql-server-8.0 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
E: default-mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
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I also removed MySQL and reinstalled it and get same type of errors.
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Anyone have ideas.? Thanks
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Philip Rose, GM3ZZA
Richard Shaw, KF5OIM
Bill, K4AJ
Joel Vazquez, WE0DX