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I everyone!
I recently purchased a brand new Palstar LA-1K and the Palstar HF Auto.
I cannot get the Palstar LA-1K to work.? Not sure what I am doing wrong. No wattage coming out of the Palstar LA-1K.
Can someone here please help me?
I have a new Yaesu FT-DX-10 that I am trying to work with the Palstar LA-1K.
Here are my questions:
What would cause this message: Low +12 Volt Supply?
Also, what specific cables are people using for the interface between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
Is it possible I received a new Palstar LA-1K that does not work?
Thank you
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I everyone!
I recently purchased a brand new Palstar LA-1K and the Palstar HF Auto.
I cannot get the Palstar LA-1K to work.? Not sure what I am doing wrong. No wattage coming out of the Palstar LA-1K.
Can someone here please help me?
I have a new Yaesu FT-DX-10 that I am trying to work with the Palstar LA-1K.
Here are my questions:
What would cause this message: Low +12 Volt Supply?
Also, what specific cables are people using for the interface between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
Is it possible I received a new Palstar LA-1K that does not work?
Thank you
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This cable works well.
And yes call Palstar
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To key the amp you need to activate the PTT (push to talk). The FTDX10 doesn't have a PTT RCA jack, so you must use a specific cable,?refer to page 11 in the FTDX10 manual. I ran into the same issue of figuring out a way to key my amp. Unfortunately, the correct cable ( DB-10MY)?was not available at the time that I needed it (It still may not be). I had to make my own cable. Refer to these links to get an idea of what you may need to do if you can't locate the?correct cable. The cable referenced above (dxe-acomss-ysu10) may not work as it states the cable is for Acom amps only. But, if it really does work then you're good to go. I'm just not familiar with that cable.
This cable works well.
And yes call Palstar
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That cable won't work at all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).? Nine
pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install a DB9
plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric Clanton
wrote:
This cable works well.
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Sorry that’s the acom cable. This one is the one I have but it’s out of stock.
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On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:37, Kent Trimble, K9ZTV <k9ztv@...> wrote:
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That cable won't work at all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).? Nine
pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install a DB9
plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric Clanton
wrote:
This cable works well.
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You give no call sign so one
cannot tell how experienced you might be with amateur radio, nor
can it be determined what you might be doing wrong because you
give no information as to what you are actually doing.
The LA-1K requires no interface cable.? It is RF sensing, which
means it automatically changes bands when it detects RF from a
transceiver.
The only reason for using an interface cable is if you want the
LA-1K to change bands AS you change bands on the transceiver.?
Since you are exciting it with a Yaesu rig, you would need to
install a female DB9 plug on one end of the interface cable for
insertion into the upper of the two DB9 (DE9 if you prefer)
jacks on the back of the LA-1K.? The other end of the cable
would need the Mini-DIN 10P plug which, according to page 8 of
the FTDX-10 manual, is an accessory available from Yaesu:? "Linear Amplifier Connection
Cable (Mini DIN 10P - Bare Wire)? SCU-28."
The "bare wire" means you must supply the DB9 plug and wire it
correctly.? Many are available, but I prefer the breakout
board plug from Winford:?
which is fast and
requires no soldering.
The model you want is "BRKEGD9F-T B" which uses spring
terminals (easier than screws), thumbscrews (no screw driver),
and revision B (much improved).
Are you
an SSB op or a CW op?? This makes a difference when it comes to
determining whether to use NORMAL mode or DIRECT mode.
You are welcome to email me so I can give you my phone number
and we can talk more specifically.
What we also need to discuss is how successfully you are using
the HF-AUTO.? Faults attributed to the LA-1K are often faults
detected by the HF-AUTO which, more often than not, are faults
lying within the overall antenna system.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
k9ztv@...
On 2/12/2023 10:53 PM, ddffbb22 via
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I everyone!
I recently purchased a brand new Palstar LA-1K and the Palstar
HF Auto.
I cannot get the Palstar LA-1K to work.? Not sure what I am
doing wrong. No wattage coming out of the Palstar LA-1K.
Can someone here please help me?
I have a new Yaesu FT-DX-10 that I am trying to work with the
Palstar LA-1K.
Here are my questions:
What would cause this message: Low +12 Volt Supply?
Also, what specific cables are people using for the interface
between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
Is it possible I received a new Palstar LA-1K that does not
work?
Thank you
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Thanks, Eric.? I figured it was
just a typo.
But ...
Without casting aspersions on you or anyone else, permit me a
reflection (not even close to a rant):
Buying "pre-made" seems to be everyone's easy-way-out these
days, which, of course, teaches nothing.?
What could be simpler than tracing a wire from a pin on one end
to the appropriate pin on the other end and installing an
appropriate plug according to a pin-out diagram?
Sadly and invariably, the "pre-maders" are Extra Class
licensees.
Sad.? Very sad.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 11:21 AM, Eric Clanton
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Sorry that’s the acom cable. This one is the one I have but it’s
out of stock.
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Eric D Clanton?
On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:37, Kent
Trimble, K9ZTV <k9ztv@...> wrote:
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That cable won't work at
all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).?
Nine pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install
a DB9 plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric
Clanton wrote:
This cable works well.
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Kent,
Thank you for replying to my humble request for help in getting my?new Palstar LA-1K and brand new Palstar HF Auto and new Yaesu FT DX-10 to work well together.
My call sign is AJ6XW.
My name is Dirk.
After waiting many, many months, I am super excited to get my rig, amplifier, tuner, antenna, etc. all working well.? I have been working so hard to study, pass my exams, build antennas, etc.? I am a total rookie at amateur radio and I am learning a lot, often on a daily basis.
One of the first lessons I learned in amateur radio was that there are a lot of cranky, old fart operators that struggle with pride and arrogance as well as an overweening sense of superiority.? Most of them are incredibly negative and chronically toxic.? Yep, they make the terrible mistake of believing that the more they accumulate knowledge, the more superior they become.? They miss the truth that knowledge puffs up, but loves builds up!
Thank you for broadcasting in a manner that enables the entire world to see your rude, proud and arrogant attitude.? You should be ashamed of yourself Kent!? It is people like you that have given amateur radio a terrible name and reputation all over the world.
I just got off the phone with Palstar, and with politeness and courtesy they informed me that Palstar LA-1K will not work without a cable.? What a far cry from your replies!
In humility I came to this groupsio site and I asked a super simply request that was met with incredible rudeness and arrogance!? Wow, and this is my very first post/experience at groups.io.
Unfortunately, your reply was very similar to several of the posters at QRZ when I first started asking questions.? Most of the people at QRZ have been super kind and helpful, but others were in terrible bondage to chronic, toxic negativity and incredible levels of sickening pride and arrogance.
And now to help others that are in humility seeking the correct answer to the same question I asked:
My question: what specific cables are people using for the interface between the Palstar LA-1K and the Yaesu FT DX-10?
The correct answer is: According to Palstar, the Palstar LA-1K will not work without a cable.? The LA-1K requires a special cable to work with the Yaesu FT DX-10.? The correct cable is:
Ameritron Band Data Interface Cables DB-10MY
I hope my post helps someone that purchased the same items as I did!
Have a nice day everyone!
PS.? Kent, I hate to pop your balloon, but you are not a fraction as big and important?and superior as you think you are.
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Kent I know what?you mean. I do build a lot of stuff, but when it comes to things like a control cable I'd rather buy premade instead of trying to round up the individual parts needed to make one. Coax, I'd much rather make my own, just antennas a baluns, but for a lot of things my time is a lot more important to me.?
On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 12:02 PM Kent Trimble, K9ZTV < k9ztv@...> wrote:
Thanks, Eric.? I figured it was
just a typo.
But ...
Without casting aspersions on you or anyone else, permit me a
reflection (not even close to a rant):
Buying "pre-made" seems to be everyone's easy-way-out these
days, which, of course, teaches nothing.?
What could be simpler than tracing a wire from a pin on one end
to the appropriate pin on the other end and installing an
appropriate plug according to a pin-out diagram?
Sadly and invariably, the "pre-maders" are Extra Class
licensees.
Sad.? Very sad.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 11:21 AM, Eric Clanton
wrote:
Sorry that’s the acom cable. This one is the one I have but it’s
out of stock.
?
Eric D Clanton?
On Feb 13, 2023, at 10:37, Kent
Trimble, K9ZTV <k9ztv@...> wrote:
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That cable won't work at
all.?
Both jacks on the LA-1k are DB9 (DE9, if you prefer).?
Nine pins, not 15.
It WILL work if you cut the 15 pin plug off and install
a DB9 plug.
73,
Kent
K9ZTV
On 2/13/2023 7:53 AM, Eric
Clanton wrote:
This cable works well.
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-- Eric D.Clanton DVM
1519 Pelham Rd
Jacksonville, AL 36265
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Dirk:
Earlier today I also posted an answer to your question and how I solved the same issue you're having. Not sure if you saw it. Yes, the correct cable is an Ameritron DB-10MY, which I also mentioned in my reply to your inquiry. The problem for me was that cable is out of stock nearly everywhere. I called Ameritron and they confirmed it was out of stock. Hopefully, they'll start producing them again soon. In the meantime, I had to build my own cable and provided you links to enable you to do the same. Good luck finding the right cable or building one.
Joe WW8X
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Joe,
Thank you for your reply.
I am ready to order both parts, but would like to know which exact parts you used...I think you mentioned a possibility or concern of wires breaking.
Here are the items I have in the cart right now to purchase:
Have you any other suggestions?
Thank you,
Dirk
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Yes, those are the parts needed. Follow the wiring chart. And, yes those wires in the cable are ultra-thin gauge. I found the best way to strip the insulation is just to use your fingernails to strip them... yep they're that fragile. The connector has screw terminals... but, I had trouble using them and wanted a more dependable connection. So, I soldered the wires to the pads on the underside of the board instead. It's kind of tedious, but doable with patience and some clamps to hold things while you solder. Picture attached. Good luck. Mine set up is working FB!
Joe,
Thank you for your reply.
I am ready to order both parts, but would like to know which exact parts you used...I think you mentioned a possibility or concern of wires breaking.
Here are the items I have in the cart right now to purchase:
Have you any other suggestions?
Thank you,
Dirk
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Thank you Joe!
Did you leave the board open or were you able to cover it?
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If you're neat with your wiring and use a small cable tie to secure it, the covers should go on and tighten up. At least mine did.
Thank you Joe!
Did you leave the board open or were you able to cover it?
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Joe,
Thank you for your help, especially the clarity on the finer points.
Years ago [1970's] I built a myriad of Heathkit items.? My favorite item to build back then was the Heathkit Battery Eliminator IP 2715.? One of the most challenging of the kits was the Heathkit remote control kits.? Heathkit sold the transmitter, receiver and servos kits for remote control airplanes back then.? Building and soldering the servos, receivers, etc. were a bit of a challenge because nearly all the components had to be mounted and soldered in a vertical rather than a horizontal orientation.? But I got it done and they worked well for years of fun.
I grew up in Silicon Valley.? Back in the 60's and 70's many companies in SV had assembly lines where people sat at work benches and installed components on printed circuit boards and then soldered them for 8 hours a day.? It was a great way to learn to solder!? Some companies paid not by the hour, but by how many successful circuit boards you soldered.? This led to people learning to solder very quickly and very successfully.
Years later I was totally blown away when for the first time in my life I saw an assembly line fully automated where numerically controlled machines shot hundreds of electrical components into the circuit boards in a matter of seconds.? My how we have come a long, long way!? Want to know know what I enjoyed the most?? When a machine malfunctioned [and it happened often] thousands upon thousands of resisters, diodes, transistors, capacitors, flew all over the floor.? The management's attitude was it wasn't even worth the time/effort to re-sort them, so they threw them away.? I was able to collect thousands of items because they simply did not want them.??
I have ordered both the din cable and the DB9 for my Yaesu/Palstar combo and am excited to learn much more about amplifiers, auto tuners and radios.? I am especially interested in learning more about how they interact with each other.
I appreciate you and the patience you have shown me.
Have great day!
Dirk
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Hello. There are DB (and others) connectors that have screws instead of soldering pins, they are easy to work with many little wires and they are also good for experimenting with custom?made cables.
My 15c
Philip
CE4PS
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Dirk,
I also built many Heathkit projects as well. I enjoyed the whole process and miss those days of beginning a new kit and taking it to a functioning finished product. Did I fully understand what I was doing? Not really. But it was satisfying to see it all come together. Today's surface-mounted component technology has mostly eliminated hand assembly and soldering on circuit boards. The LA-1K is a great amplifier and pairs well with the FTDX10. I also have the HF-Auto and it's a sweet antenna tuner. Another note is you'll need to adjust the settings on the amp once the cable is connected. See page 21 – Direct Mode Keying in the LA-1K manual.?
Good luck!
Joe WW8X
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On Feb 13, 2023, at 8:21 AM, Joe Loverti WW8X <jloverti@...> wrote:
? To key the amp you need to activate the PTT (push to talk). The FTDX10 doesn't have a PTT RCA jack, so you must use a specific cable,?refer to page 11 in the FTDX10 manual. I ran into the same issue of figuring out a way to key my amp. Unfortunately, the correct cable ( DB-10MY)?was not available at the time that I needed it (It still may not be). I had to make my own cable. Refer to these links to get an idea of what you may need to do if you can't locate the?correct cable. The cable referenced above (dxe-acomss-ysu10) may not work as it states the cable is for Acom amps only. But, if it really does work then you're good to go. I'm just not familiar with that cable. This cable works well.
And yes call Palstar
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Thank you Philip!? I will have a look at the different varieties.
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Eric Clanton
Philip Smith