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I am trying to create a symbol for the AD736 RMS detector, but I am having no success either creating a new symbol or modifying an existing one (NE555). I created a library 'RMS detector', but I am told that it is not writeable, so I can't create or modify a symbol.

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Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.


 

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KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:

Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.


 

I just tried this on a Win11 virtual machine with KiCad 6.0.11.? In the symbol editor I clicked "New Library" and it defaulted to creating "RMS detector" in C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\symbols which is writable.? If you are trying to add a library to the system library folder, that might not be writable, but I don't see why KiCad would default to that.

Do you get the option to select where to put the library?


 

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That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

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Het Halster 40
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+31 633702492

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I didn't see an option where to save it, but I didn't look for one. I will investigate.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:50, Steven A. Falco wrote:

I just tried this on a Win11 virtual machine with KiCad 6.0.11.? In the symbol editor I clicked "New Library" and it defaulted to creating "RMS detector" in C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\symbols which is writable.? If you are trying to add a library to the system library folder, that might not be writable, but I don't see why KiCad would default to that.

Do you get the option to select where to put the library?


 

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Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:

That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

-- 
IDcircuits - RFID & Electronics
Het Halster 40
6581 JL Malden
The Netherlands
+31 633702492

r.gerritsen@...


 

Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense. As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path. I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments. We'll see.

Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!
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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.
--
IDcircuits - RFID & Electronics
Het Halster 40
6581 JL Malden
The Netherlands
+31 633702492
www.idcircuits.com
r.gerritsen@...


 

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The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:

Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense.? As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

--?
IDcircuits - RFID & Electronics
Het Halster 40
6581 JL Malden
The Netherlands
+31 633702492

r.gerritsen@...








 

One other point - if you create a new library from within the schematic editor, it will give you a choice of "Global" or "Project". If you choose "Global" it should again put the library into a path like what I showed. If you choose "Project" it will put it into the folder of whatever project you have open.

As a demo, I created a project called "test" and I told KiCad to put the project into C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\projects\test. I then created a symbol library called "try" owned by the project, rather than being global. As you can see in the attached Windows File Explorer screenshot, file "try.kicad_sym" was created in the "test" folder (circled in red).

On 3/29/23 04:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.
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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense.? As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.
--
IDcircuits - RFID & Electronics
Het Halster 40
6581 JL Malden
The Netherlands
+31 633702492
www.idcircuits.com
r.gerritsen@...





 

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Take a look at this thread on kicad.info



On 3/29/2023 3:50 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote:

I just tried this on a Win11 virtual machine with KiCad 6.0.11.? In the symbol editor I clicked "New Library" and it defaulted to creating "RMS detector" in C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\symbols which is writable.? If you are trying to add a library to the system library folder, that might not be writable, but I don't see why KiCad would default to that.

Do you get the option to select where to put the library?


 

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Thanks, Steven. I think I've got that far, but I'm still in deep trouble.If I try to make a new symbol, I get? 'AD736' superimposed on 'U' in large immovable letters, right where I want to put the rectangle to build the symbol round. If I try to modify the NE555 symbol instead, changing the name to AD736, the symbol is uneditable.? I seem to be balked at every junction.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:41, Steven A. Falco wrote:

One other point - if you create a new library from within the schematic editor, it will give you a choice of "Global" or "Project".? If you choose "Global" it should again put the library into a path like what I showed.? If you choose "Project" it will put it into the folder of whatever project you have open.

As a demo, I created a project called "test" and I told KiCad to put the project into C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\projects\test.? I then created a symbol library called "try" owned by the project, rather than being global.? As you can see in the attached Windows File Explorer screenshot, file "try.kicad_sym" was created in the "test" folder (circled in red).

On 3/29/23 04:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense.? As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

--?
IDcircuits - RFID & Electronics
Het Halster 40
6581 JL Malden
The Netherlands
+31 633702492

r.gerritsen@...















 

One thing that might cause that is the "snap grid". I.e. if you have a very large grid set, then you won't be able to move things in small increments. But it is definitely easy to move everything. Here is a continuation of my example. I created a symbol "jjj" within the "try" library, selected and moved the jjj lettering.

I don't know if you are interested, but I recommend the course available here:

It is not free, but it is excellent. (Disclaimer - I have no financial interest, yada yada)

Steve

On 3/29/23 04:53 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks, Steven. I think I've got that far, but I'm still in deep trouble.If I try to make a new symbol, I get? 'AD736' superimposed on 'U' in large immovable letters, right where I want to put the rectangle to build the symbol round. If I try to modify the NE555 symbol instead, changing the name to AD736, the symbol is uneditable.? I seem to be balked at every junction.
======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK
I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)
On 2023-03-29 21:41, Steven A. Falco wrote:
One other point - if you create a new library from within the schematic editor, it will give you a choice of "Global" or "Project".? If you choose "Global" it should again put the library into a path like what I showed.? If you choose "Project" it will put it into the folder of whatever project you have open.

As a demo, I created a project called "test" and I told KiCad to put the project into C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\projects\test.? I then created a symbol library called "try" owned by the project, rather than being global.? As you can see in the attached Windows File Explorer screenshot, file "try.kicad_sym" was created in the "test" folder (circled in red).

On 3/29/23 04:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense. As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only
www.woodjohn.uk
Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.
--
IDcircuits - RFID & Electronics
Het Halster 40
6581 JL Malden
The Netherlands
+31 633702492
www.idcircuits.com
r.gerritsen@...









 

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Thanks again, Steven. I will study.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 22:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:

One thing that might cause that is the "snap grid".? I.e. if you have a very large grid set, then you won't be able to move things in small increments.? But it is definitely easy to move everything.? Here is a continuation of my example.? I created a symbol "jjj" within the "try" library, selected and moved the jjj lettering.

I don't know if you are interested, but I recommend the course available here:

It is not free, but it is excellent.? (Disclaimer - I have no financial interest, yada yada)

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:53 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks, Steven. I think I've got that far, but I'm still in deep trouble.If I try to make a new symbol, I get? 'AD736' superimposed on 'U' in large immovable letters, right where I want to put the rectangle to build the symbol round. If I try to modify the NE555 symbol instead, changing the name to AD736, the symbol is uneditable.? I seem to be balked at every junction.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:41, Steven A. Falco wrote:
One other point - if you create a new library from within the schematic editor, it will give you a choice of "Global" or "Project".? If you choose "Global" it should again put the library into a path like what I showed.? If you choose "Project" it will put it into the folder of whatever project you have open.

As a demo, I created a project called "test" and I told KiCad to put the project into C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\projects\test.? I then created a symbol library called "try" owned by the project, rather than being global.? As you can see in the attached Windows File Explorer screenshot, file "try.kicad_sym" was created in the "test" folder (circled in red).

On 3/29/23 04:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense. As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

--?
IDcircuits - RFID & Electronics
Het Halster 40
6581 JL Malden
The Netherlands
+31 633702492

r.gerritsen@...






















 

Also see this thread. If you have old libraries and have not migrated them they are read only:



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After carefully reading the on-line Help, I have created a new symbol for the AD736. Thank you all for your help.

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Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 22:17, John Woodgate wrote:

Thanks again, Steven. I will study.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 22:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
One thing that might cause that is the "snap grid".? I.e. if you have a very large grid set, then you won't be able to move things in small increments.? But it is definitely easy to move everything.? Here is a continuation of my example.? I created a symbol "jjj" within the "try" library, selected and moved the jjj lettering.

I don't know if you are interested, but I recommend the course available here:

It is not free, but it is excellent.? (Disclaimer - I have no financial interest, yada yada)

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:53 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks, Steven. I think I've got that far, but I'm still in deep trouble.If I try to make a new symbol, I get? 'AD736' superimposed on 'U' in large immovable letters, right where I want to put the rectangle to build the symbol round. If I try to modify the NE555 symbol instead, changing the name to AD736, the symbol is uneditable.? I seem to be balked at every junction.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:41, Steven A. Falco wrote:
One other point - if you create a new library from within the schematic editor, it will give you a choice of "Global" or "Project".? If you choose "Global" it should again put the library into a path like what I showed.? If you choose "Project" it will put it into the folder of whatever project you have open.

As a demo, I created a project called "test" and I told KiCad to put the project into C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\projects\test.? I then created a symbol library called "try" owned by the project, rather than being global.? As you can see in the attached Windows File Explorer screenshot, file "try.kicad_sym" was created in the "test" folder (circled in red).

On 3/29/23 04:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.

======================================================================================
Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Rayleigh, Essex UK

I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunzi (340 - 245 BC)


On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense. As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

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On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

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On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

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Not quite out of the wood, though. I couldn't get the pin names to appear inside the symbol, even though I checked carefully that the option was ticked. I've overcome the problem by deleting the pin names, but I would like to solve the issue rather than work around it.

Also, I see that 'native' KiCad symbols have a yellow fill in the rectangle, but I don't see any option to fill my symbol's rectangle.

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On 2023-03-30 12:18, John Woodgate wrote:

After carefully reading the on-line Help, I have created a new symbol for the AD736. Thank you all for your help.

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On 2023-03-29 22:17, John Woodgate wrote:

Thanks again, Steven. I will study.

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On 2023-03-29 22:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
One thing that might cause that is the "snap grid".? I.e. if you have a very large grid set, then you won't be able to move things in small increments.? But it is definitely easy to move everything.? Here is a continuation of my example.? I created a symbol "jjj" within the "try" library, selected and moved the jjj lettering.

I don't know if you are interested, but I recommend the course available here:

It is not free, but it is excellent.? (Disclaimer - I have no financial interest, yada yada)

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On 3/29/23 04:53 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Thanks, Steven. I think I've got that far, but I'm still in deep trouble.If I try to make a new symbol, I get? 'AD736' superimposed on 'U' in large immovable letters, right where I want to put the rectangle to build the symbol round. If I try to modify the NE555 symbol instead, changing the name to AD736, the symbol is uneditable.? I seem to be balked at every junction.

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On 2023-03-29 21:41, Steven A. Falco wrote:
One other point - if you create a new library from within the schematic editor, it will give you a choice of "Global" or "Project".? If you choose "Global" it should again put the library into a path like what I showed.? If you choose "Project" it will put it into the folder of whatever project you have open.

As a demo, I created a project called "test" and I told KiCad to put the project into C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\projects\test.? I then created a symbol library called "try" owned by the project, rather than being global.? As you can see in the attached Windows File Explorer screenshot, file "try.kicad_sym" was created in the "test" folder (circled in red).

On 3/29/23 04:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.

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On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense. As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:
Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

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On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:
That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

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On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:
Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

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Thanks, Mike. I don't have any old libraries.

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On 2023-03-29 22:48, Mike M wrote:

Also see this thread. If you have old libraries and have not migrated them they are read only:



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On 3/30/23 11:25 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
Not quite out of the wood, though. I couldn't get the pin names to appear inside the symbol, even though I checked carefully that the option was ticked. I've overcome the problem by deleting the pin names, but I would like to solve the issue rather than work around it.
Make sure you are putting the pins the right way around. The circle goes to the outside of the box. So for pins on the left side of the box, set the orientation to "right". That is not intuitive to me but that's how it works. If you open an existing part you can see how it was done.

Also, I see that 'native' KiCad symbols have a yellow fill in the rectangle, but I don't see any option to fill my symbol's rectangle.
Select the outline and right-click. You should get a "Rect Drawing Properties" dialog, and you can then select the "Fill Style".

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Thank you very much.

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On 2023-03-30 18:25, Steven A. Falco wrote:

On 3/30/23 11:25 AM, John Woodgate wrote:
Not quite out of the wood, though. I couldn't get the pin names to appear inside the symbol, even though I checked carefully that the option was ticked. I've overcome the problem by deleting the pin names, but I would like to solve the issue rather than work around it.

Make sure you are putting the pins the right way around.? The circle goes to the outside of the box.? So for pins on the left side of the box, set the orientation to "right".? That is not intuitive to me but that's how it works.? If you open an existing part you can see how it was done.

Also, I see that 'native' KiCad symbols have a yellow fill in the rectangle, but I don't see any option to fill my symbol's rectangle.

Select the outline and right-click.? You should get a "Rect Drawing Properties" dialog, and you can then select the "Fill Style".

????Steve