One thing that might cause that is the "snap grid".? I.e. if you have a very large grid set, then you won't be able to move things in small increments.? But it is definitely easy to move everything.? Here is a continuation of my example.? I created a symbol "jjj" within the "try" library, selected and moved the jjj lettering.

I don't know if you are interested, but I recommend the course available here:

It is not free, but it is excellent.? (Disclaimer - I have no financial interest, yada yada)

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:53 PM, John Woodgate wrote:

Thanks, Steven. I think I've got that far, but I'm still in deep trouble.If I try to make a new symbol, I get? 'AD736' superimposed on 'U' in large immovable letters, right where I want to put the rectangle to build the symbol round. If I try to modify the NE555 symbol instead, changing the name to AD736, the symbol is uneditable.? I seem to be balked at every junction.

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On 2023-03-29 21:41, Steven A. Falco wrote:

One other point - if you create a new library from within the schematic editor, it will give you a choice of "Global" or "Project".? If you choose "Global" it should again put the library into a path like what I showed.? If you choose "Project" it will put it into the folder of whatever project you have open.

As a demo, I created a project called "test" and I told KiCad to put the project into C:\Users\sfalco\Documents\KiCad\6.0\projects\test.? I then created a symbol library called "try" owned by the project, rather than being global.? As you can see in the attached Windows File Explorer screenshot, file "try.kicad_sym" was created in the "test" folder (circled in red).

On 3/29/23 04:21 PM, John Woodgate wrote:

The screenshot came through. Thank you. I have found the folder \Documents\KiCad\6.0. All its sub-folders are empty.? I downloaded the Schematic Editor 6.0 English Documentation KiCad.htm, but I didn't find any mention of a KiCad folder being in Documents.? I may have missed a reference.

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On 2023-03-29 21:07, Steven A. Falco wrote:

Yes - that doesn't make a lot of sense. As soon as you click "New Library" in the symbol editor, you should get a dialog to save it, and that dialog should show the path.? I'll try to attach a screen shot of what you should see, but I don't know if groups.io allows attachments.? We'll see.

????Steve

On 3/29/23 04:04 PM, John Woodgate wrote:

Admin rights usually allow writing to app folders in Program files, but of course that's not guaranteed, and in any case is dangerous. But it's odd that I can create a library but not write to it!

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On 2023-03-29 20:52, Reinier Gerritsen wrote:

That is probably in a subfolder from c:\Program Files\KiCad where you have no rights to write.

Op 29-3-2023 om 21:29 schreef John Woodgate:

KiCad 6.0 on Windows 10. I didn't specify a path for saving, I just added the new Library to the Library folder.

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On 2023-03-29 20:09, Steven A. Falco wrote:

Which version of KiCad are you using?? Also, is this on Windows, Linux, or Mac?

I am using Linux, and by default KiCad saves to ~/.local/kicad/7.0, but I can specify a different path if I prefer.

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