Layout panel text
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I found all of my text label shown as on letter and dots or all dots. Is there a way to fix this? File uploaded. Stephen Marler
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Dispatcher continuous transit fails after a few loops
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Sometimes it's only one or two loops. This time the train went maybe 5-6 then stopped presumedly because of the double mast stop (I don't see that specific aspect at https://www.jmri.org/xml/signals/basic/aspects.xml). It's not always the same mast sometimes it's the other double mast. Why can't it allocate sections when nothing else is on the track? Notes: I'm using 5.11 and all turnouts are ghost blocks between hardware detection blocks. Everything is auto-generated (paths, sections, SML). After this screen I restarted JMRI and tried again it only made it to the second block (pic 2) even though I manually clicked "Allocate Next" until all blocks allocated but it never restarted. There is nothing in the session.log
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Loading table content and panels xml file using MacOS Mongomery from Dropbox - Error Loading File Appears
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#mac-os
Hi All Would anyone be able to assist with this issue. History back ground I have been using windows 10 PC's for many years with no issues and dropbox to store the information. This has been working without any issues for over 10 years. Now the PC's have been at different locations and still operating. Now one of the PC's is normally has the preferences configured to the railway hardware and the other PC the preferences are set to Simulator. Absolutely nothing new there works amazing. Loading Issue using Montgomery OS Now Moving on to the issue now. I was presented with the opportunity to change to a Mac mini using Catalina OS and Montgomery OS. I loaded the latest test version of JMRI onto Montgomery and all set up correctly in simulation mode and again using dropbox . When I tried to load table content and panels and selecting the correct xml file version. I get these error messages as shown below So then I decided to try using Catalina OS and repeat the same JMRI set up with Dropbox again. To my surprise when I selected load table contents and panels and the same xml file version. Every thing loads correctly as expected with no issues appreciate any assistance or ideas to resolve the issue Regards Peter
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Stop All Auto Trains bug
All, Windows 10 JMRI 5.11.3 Noticed while running four of my trains in auto that if I have a derail and I try to stop all the trains some of them slow down to stop, but resume on their own upon reaching next block. In Auto Trains window I press "Stop All Auto Trains". All trains start slowing and show "Resume". Some trains then contiue and show "Stop". Had not noticed this in version 5.8. Roger
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JMRI & Engine Driver Issue
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#enginedriver
Hi, Members 1.1k Edit Posted 1 hour ago One for the more learned amongst us to have a look at. I have the following set up : NCE Powercab, JMRI running on a Raspberry Pi via NCE USB using M Steve Todd's files, Panel Pro with a touchscreen panel to operate turnouts, turnout motors are DCC Supplies Cobalt Digital IP. The touchscreen panel works exactly as intended to control the turnouts. I would like the ability to use my phone to become a second throttle. With Wi-Throttle server running, I connected my phone to the WiFi network created by the Raspberry Pi, opened up the Engine Driver app & connected to the server. And here is where it goes wrong. Typing a loco address and then trying to move something , absolutely no response from the loco. If I try to operate a turnout motor via the accessory address , it works perfectly. The loco isn't stuck in consist mode as it works off the bat from the NCE handset using the same DCC address so as far as I know I'm not using the wrong address. On the Wi Throttle server screen I can see the phone throttle is connected and even the address of the locomotive I'm trying to control. The Track power is on. Can anyone give any pointers here? thanks in advance
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Experimental "Flatpak" distribution of JMRI
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A user has been interested in possibly distributing JMRI as a “FlatPak” for Linux. I don’t know much about that method, but apparently the distribution file also includes the JRE, so it’s (at least in theory) easier to install. As an experiment, you can find a 5.10 distribution in this form at https://github.com/JMRI/JMRI/releases/download/v5.10/jmri.5.10.flatpak For more on this, see JMRI/JMRI Issue 11658: https://github.com/JMRI/JMRI/issues/11658 Is anybody familiar enough with this distribution method to be able to try it? Is this something that we should do on an ongoing basis? Bob — Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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JMRI and LogicX driving Signals
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#signals
Wanting to drive a Signal based on a decision 'to set green / red' from a LogicX - already set a sensor 'light' on the screen and switch turnouts,, looking for guidance to then set a dwarf signal. unable to use turnout motor switches as there are two x three-way turnouts used. If there is a write up or Youtube I would appreciate in pointer, all i have seen so far are track sensor based and switched from a single turnout motor. Happy to answer any questions... thanks Randall
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Signal Controller Board Suggestions
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I have JMRI LogicX working through a tree/ladder of turnout to set 'a road in a yard' to the 'Main' from a touch sensor on a Panel. Due to space, I am using two x three-way turnouts meaning I cannot use the turnout motor internal switches to switch leds on the Dward Signals on each road. On the screen, I have a 'sensor' light next to the Road when it is clear to the Main. All good so far and works fine. Looking now for an addressable signal controller board to receive a JMRI command to turn a 'dwarf' signal from 'red' to 'green' when the sensor on the panel is selected (when it sets the required road to main). The signal controller will connect to an AUX bus connected to, in this case, a NCE PowerPro Controller. What Signal Controller Boards are you using to take the command to change the LEDs from JMRI? happy to answer any clarifying questions! Thanks Randall
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Train tracking, dealing with gaps
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#traintracking
I created a nice panel for the museum layout and created train tracking markers on it. It works well except for one show stopping thing. At one spot in the loop there is a detection gap between blocks that kills the tracking. The gap is only 1 or 2 seconds. Is there a workaround for this? Increasing train length is not an option. Installing a new detector is not likely either. George
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Sensor Query wrong for Digitrax BDL716 in 5.11.4
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Version 5.11.4+ R87a9dadc80 (Java 17.0.13) The BDL168 is discontinued and replaced with BDL716 which I have two installed on LocoNet. Upon starting JMRI, if the sensor is high as indicated by the LT5C LED, JMRI shows UNKNOWN then INACTIVE when I QUERY (wrong) if the sensor is low as indicated by the LT5C LED, JMRI shows UNKNOWN then INACTIVE when I QUERY (correct) During use the sensors correctly show inactive and active so changed states work correctly. I don't recall this behavior using version 5.10 but I could be mistaken and I also added a second BDL716 at the same time I upgraded JMRI. The problem is JMRI doesn't "see" the trains sitting in the yard although the LT5C clearly shows high/active so I have to run the train out of the block and back in to initialize the sensor at the correct level. //stevemac
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How to delete a turnout with jython
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I can easily create turnouts, sensors and blocks but I can't delete them from their Panel Pro tables with jython. The only method I found while browsing the class structure was dispose() and that had no effect. So far I am only using the simple jython classes ( if I have the nomenclature correct) in statements like turnouts.newTurnout(...) . -- -Ralph
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Cannot start to read decoders
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Hi, I am running DecoderPro since many years without any Problem. I recently got another Laptop with win11Pro preinstalled - Version 24H2. After installation DecoderPro ask me to get started by checking in with a new Loco placed on the programming track. It comes back with the correct decoder and I store it in the Roster. When I exit and restart DecoderPro I click NEW+ to get a new Loco and decoder recognized, but the field at the bottom left ( Read decoder type) is greyed out. After deinstallation i even deleted all remnants from JMRI and even cleaned the registry as far as I could. I reinstalled - did no new Lokomotive, but tried to import a complete Lokpark/Roster from my second laptop - all 104 locos appeared correctly, but I cannot add a new locomotive/decoder because in the new locomotive Window the button at the bottom left (read decoder Type) is still greyd out. And no - I am not Read only.... I red several JMRI topics, I tried to rebuild the coplete Lokpar/Roster (which did nothing) and so I am stuck. I am working with DR5000/Yamorc YD7001 and Z21, I can work with the Throttle without any Problem, so the connection to my centralStation is ok (over WIFI by the way) I am currently on 5.10.4 Release but tried also the 5.11.4 TestRelease with same result. Can I ask to help me ? Vest regards Erik
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#file-notice
The following items have been added to the Files area of the [email protected] group. /EAR/EAR_messages.log /EAR/EAR_session.log By: @EAR <erik@...> Description: Logfiles to Problem EAR #240916
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Cars Returning to Staging
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#operationspro
Hello folks I've been using JMRI for Operations for about 12 years, with good success, thanks in no small part to this forum. I operate a windows 10 system computer with JMRI 5.10 with Java 17. I use a 12 track staging yard which serves a large switching layout representing the Birmingham Industrial District (AL) in the steam era and very early diesel era. The staging tracks hold about 12 to 15 or a few more cars. There are two other smaller C/I yards and 7 interchange tracks, plus individual industries and a steel mill. We have monthly operating sessions. The different trains and staging tracks represent the 9 trunk railroads that served Birmingham in the steam era. Staged trains occupy a designated staging track - they always use the same one and return to the same one. Staging tracks are numbered "-1 or -2", and trains are set for "trains may return to staging". So, a train may leave staging 1-1 and then return to staging 1-2. This has worked fine for years and still does, but with a difference. (The overall goal of the RR's operation is to serve the on-layout steel mill, with multiple trains assembling required materials to deliver to the blast furnaces - not a part of this question. Some trains originate at the two smaller C/I yards, rather than staging.) Since upgrading to version 5.10 a month or two ago, I notice that some trains now show part of a (longer) train with cars going out to the layout and part of that same train being moved from the departure track to the future arrival track in staging. In the past, prior to 5.10, I believe all the cars would leave staging, including those with no destination on the layout, and return to staging. Basically these cars "took a ride" and then returned home. The cars "taking a ride" would be included in the departing train's car count as well as the returning train's car count. I liked having the "extra" cars taking a ride and increasing the interest of the various switching operations, and then returning to staging. As an example, the NB L&N Local Freight, is assigned to staging 1-1, and has 18 cars in staging. The build is successful and shows 9 cars departing for the layout, and 9 cars "moving" from track 1-1 to 1-2. Upon inspection of the build report, I find that these 9 "stay at home" cars have no destination on the layout -- either no room or no allowable location. The 9 cars that do have an available destination go away, get set out and 9 new cars return from the layout. The car count leaving and returning is 9 cars. (It would previously have been 18 out and 18 back) Now, I realize that I could instruct my operators to ignore the "move" instruction for cars remaining/returning to staging, but they get confused about the car count along the train's route. I also realize I can just let the cars sit in staging rather than "go for a ride", but what's the fun in that? There are also situations where the train may rightly move a car from an interchange track to a local industry. This is OK and the car count for the train's advance is "correct". So a "blanket" instruction to operators about ignoring "move" instructions wouldn't work either. So, my question is, "cars returning to staging used to go out on the layout, and take a ride back to staging -- can this be made to happen as it used to?" That is, the "move" instruction would have been a "P/U" instruction for leaving staging, and a "S/O" instruction upon return instead of what I'll call a "move to remain" instruction. Thanks for the help. John Stewart Birmingham, AL
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Train tracking markers lacking when editing
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#blocktracking
JMRI 5.10 on W11 I thought I would experiment with train tracking on a layout editor panel. I found that when the loco IDs are placed near a block that there is no indication that something has been placed there. After a train has passed through that area then tiny little blocks show up on the panel in edit mode (if everything was done correctly). This makes me grumpy. George
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Script output delayed
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#scripting
In developing some scripts, I often print to the output, as it helps debug the program. I am noticing that the output is extremely delayed Is there anyway the output can be updated? I use print statements so I can see where the application is currently processing, when I do print, I print the current time and date Then I pause the Script before processing more statements. I use statement like, time.sleep(10) I’m wondering, if using this kind of statement to pause my script causes the output to pause also
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Problems with an SML Pair
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#signalmasts
#sml
I cannot get a single mast pair T7 to T2 via B7 to work as expected. T7 is a ghost block with a detection block pre and post. T1, T2 and T3 all share a detection block. B17 Shown below is a single block with detection sensors. I have two paths (B7, B8) coming in from T7 which I've shown below that share same entrance to T7 and exit from T2. The SML was auto-generated. The diverging path works as expected. That is, it knows that T7 must be thrown, T1 must be closed (invert) and T2 to its right must be thrown (invert) to pass traffic. The mast on the right (T2) never changes aspect although the T7 mast changes to approach as I'd expect. When auto-generated, jmri paired the T2 mast with another mast in the yard block (BYE) for unknown logic. Complete layout follows for completeness. Note: All start at B17 and counter-clockwise on B1 or B9. B9, B11 are up and over B8,B7. I copied the logic from T1 mast to T2 mast in the xml but it produced the same results. I have done grand resets (deleting all paths and SML in this case) several times and I've run out of ideas. File is uploaded problems and a convenience link below. XML file uploaded to Problems... I hope somebody here has some suggestion. //stevemac
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Signal Mast Pairs - what aspect if none active?
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#sml
Here I have three options to set the signal, their conditions resulting all being not active (as intended). For these conditions I have LogixNG to set the mast to an aspect I require. I suspect the aspect is being set but immediately changed to Danger. Does SML default to forcing the mast to Danger when no mast pairs are Active? -- H.O. Australia (Layout in Progress) Digikeijs DR5000 LocoNet JMRI v5.10 DecoderPro/Warrants/CPE/SML/LogixNG Java: OpenLogic jre-17.0.12.7 Windows 10
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Automatic Dispatching
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I've tried several different ways to get trains to run automatically, but I keep running into ( maybe I should say "creating my own") roadblocks. At 83, I'm not sure how many more wrong ways to do it I can afford to try. I've set signal heads all around the layout. I try to set Blocks, Sections and a Transit to run a train and I get it set to go through several Sections, but then I get to a turnout and it will allow me to set the diverging route out, but the continuing route isn't available. I can't find what's different between the Block on he diverging leg and the one on the continuing leg of the turnout. So, I read some of the JMRI documentation and decided to try using Signal Masts and letting JMRI set up Sections and Transits on the fly. I took a portion of the Panel and deleted the signal heads around a turnout to use the Set Signal Masts menu. It sets the Masts for both routes entering the frog end of the turnout, but there's no option to set a Mast with signals for the points end of the same turnout. Before I waste any more time on rabbit holes, can someone steer me to the easiest way to set up my goals? Or point me at the page in the JMRI documents where I can read the proper steps to take and the order to build it? I'd like to: 1. Be able to send a train autonomously from the modeled layout into a specific staging track. 2. Be able to have trains scheduled to come out of staging into the modeled area at preprogrammed clock times or upon specified events. 3. Be able to manually trigger a train in staging by selecting either the train or the track it's on and select where it needs to go. This forum has been so great thanks to the helpful folks here who have been so willing to share their time and experience.
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Chaining transits with a different locomotive
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#dispatcher
Hi, Still continuing to test chaining of transits. It look like if you chain a new tansit using "load traininfo” but with a different locomotive, dispatcher doesn't use the new locomotive but continue to run the new transit with the previous locomotive. Any idea? JeanLouisDelestre@... De: "Ken Heywood via groups.io" <kheywood@...> ?: [email protected] Envoyé: Dimanche 23 Mars 2025 07:57:36 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Dispatcher question - chaining transits #dispatcher I use transit actions “load traininfo” and then “terminate” at the end of a transit. This is especially useful when your train has a reversing move. -- Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.1 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu Blog: Cape Cod Railroad (HO) – Newbie of an Oldie Youtube: Ken's Channel -- --------------------------------------------- Jean-Louis Paris-France --------------------------------------------- JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows DCC EX on Arduino Mega Java version 17.1.12
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