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Hi, Still continuing to test chaining of transits. It look like if you chain a new tansit using "load traininfo” but with a different locomotive, dispatcher doesn't use the new locomotive but continue to run the new transit with the previous locomotive. Any idea? JeanLouisDelestre@... De: "Ken Heywood via groups.io" <kheywood@...> ?: [email protected] Envoyé: Dimanche 23 Mars 2025 07:57:36 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Dispatcher question - chaining transits #dispatcher I use transit actions “load traininfo” and then “terminate” at the end of a transit. This is especially useful when your train has a reversing move. -- Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.1 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu Blog: Cape Cod Railroad (HO) – Newbie of an Oldie Youtube: Ken's Channel -- --------------------------------------------- Jean-Louis Paris-France --------------------------------------------- JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows DCC EX on Arduino Mega Java version 17.1.12
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Team, I really need some help on this issue. I posted on it a couple weeks back and got zero replies. At the museum we have a Dell PC running Windows 10 and Java 11. Currently JMRI version 5.10 is running on the machine. Every time JMRI opens it is a new install running the set-up wizard where we have to choose the Sprogg unit, the com port, etc. It also does not remember that there should be a roster of locomotives. I uninstalled the JMRI software by selecting uninstall in the apps window. I confirmed that all directories are removed from the system. I re-installed JMRI. There is no change in the behavior. Save locos to the Roster, it recognizes them until the next time decoder pro is started and then it opens as a new install with the wizard wanting you to choose Sprogg, com port, etc. Once you do that it comes up with no roster. I'm at my wits end on this one. Can someone offer suggestions or ideas to try. George Ronn
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New laptop … advice needed, S mode?
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Gang, my old basement laptop was calling it quits, so a new one has arrived. Before I install JMRI, is there anything I should be aware of? New machine is windows 11 in S mode which I don’t know much about. Does that present any issues? Thanks. Bruce B. Blackwood in Mount Airy, MD
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Team, attached snip of script where the error is occurring. Funny thing is that it works fine 90% of the time. -- Many thanks in advance! Vinny DeRobertis ~ Apex, NC New York & Hudson Valley RR Windows 7 Pro / Java 11 / JMRI v5.10 Command Station: Digikeijs DR5000. Booster: Digikeijs DR5033 (4) Samsung A7 10.4" Tablets Fully Kiosk/Engine Driver v2.37.187 DCC/DMX Gateway: Pricom LLS. LocoNet Input Modules: Digikeijs DR4088LN DCC Output Modules: Digikeijs DR4018 / Yamorc YD8116. Sensors: Model Train Technology: DETECTOR-HO. Turnout Motors: MTB MP1
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Test release 5.11.5 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download
#announcement
Test release 5.11.5 of JMRI/DecoderPro is available for download. This is the next in a series of test releases that will culminate in a production release, hopefully in June 2025. It's really helpful when people download, install and use these test releases so we can find and fix any inadvertent new problems early. If you are currently using JMRI 4.99.10 or earlier, there is an update process that we strongly recommend. See the release note section on updates: <https://www.jmri.org/releasenotes/jmri5.11.5.shtml#update> For more information on the issues, new features and bug fixes in 5.11.5 please see the release note: <https://www.jmri.org/releasenotes/jmri5.11.5.shtml> Note that JMRI is made available under the GNU General Public License. For more information, please see our copyright and licensing page. <https://www.jmri.org/Copyright.html> The download links, along with lots of other information which we hope you'll read, can be found on the release note page: <https://www.jmri.org/releasenotes/jmri5.11.5.shtml> Bob — Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Paragon4 (400a) Decoder Programming issues
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I am trying to program an BLI engine I had upgraded to Paragon4. Sometime I program a section and it work fine and sometime I get 308 errors. Also I program one section and another section changes. Also the smoke unit works when F7 off and goes off when F7 on. I going to reload the DCC+ software but I do not believe that will help since I tried other locomotive and everything works. Any suggestions. Joe
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Signal Mast Logic Translation Latency
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#sml
Over the past few weeks we have started running into a long latency issue between the signal mast logic and the turnouts that controls each LED. We are using a Digitrax system with a CMRI network for Signals and Turnouts. Our network consists of about 17 CPNODES at the moment with a few more later to come. We have just over 100 Signal Masts with about 75%~80% of them in working order. In recent weeks as we continue to expand our CMRI network I started noticing an issue where the nodes are polling correctly with zero errors but signal aspects change slower than usual. With times where the change is so long the signals just give impossible aspects at times. Now the interesting part is our turnouts are on the same network as the signals and have no issues even while the issue is present on the signals. Directly changing the outputs using the turnouts table works just fine for changing the individual outputs, but changing the signal aspect from the mast table will choke up and take anywhere from seconds to several minutes to change. The issue seems to be most prevalent on startup, and waiting 5-10 minutes before running will get the choke out, but if the system is under heavier load such as 5+ trains usually it will start to choke up again. I am convinced it does not have to do with the CMRI network as I get the same result running the layout in simulation at home on a very powerful computer. Any help on this issue would be much appreciated Thanks, - Hunter Shelby
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Virtual Signal Masts for End-Blocks
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Running JMRI 5.11 and have created a number of Signal Masts, each using DCC Signal Heads (I use NCE Light-Its). I am wondering if I have setup something wrong, or if someone can some provide some guidance on the following situation. I have a turnout which either continues the mainline, or if thrown diverges to an end track. I setup two rules for my signal mast (Signal-A). The first from Signal-A to Signal-B (both on the mainline) and based on the turnout being set to Closed. For the second rule, it is Signal-A to Virtual-A where the turnout is Thrown. Virtual-A is defined as a Virtual Signal Mast as it is at the end of a track line. However, Signal-A is always at a Stop state because Virtual-A is never set to a state unless I manually set it to Clear. When I do this, and if the Turnout is Thrown, then Signal-A correctly changes to Clear. But otherwise Signal-A is not in the correct state because it is linked to Virtual-A and Virtual- is unset. Am I using the Virtual Signal in the right way for these situations where the track ends?
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Arrival Track & Switcher
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#operationspro
Set up my class yard Arrival track as a "Location". It's length accommodates the longest trains I run. Set up Switcher (train) to PU at Location "Arrival" and SO at yard Location. When I tested, had a 30 car train arrive. The manifest showed all 30 cars set out at Arrival. Ran train "Switcher". It only picked up 22 of the 30 cars. Viewing the build report 8 cars were excluded as class track for those 8 cars was full. What puzzles me is that those 8 cars were not shown as "hold" on the csvmanifest. Any ideas? Doug
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Hi Members Could someone please help me out with A Single crossover and JMRi First things first. Please take a look at this photo of the Crossover I presumed that one turnout has one Block so A Crossover just needs 2. Is that correct? Each end of the 4 crossover ends i have isolated,Power is feed to the small joins attached to the(each side) crossover(2) to make 2 blocks with sensors Is that correct? My problem comes when i choose single LH Crossover in JMRI then when i go to set masts it ask for 4 Blocks,but i only have 2 Can someone explain the Four please? Appreciate your time regards Brett PS.DCC Kato Crossover.
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I'm still learning Dispatcher/Transits but have my three loops working independently. Next I tried adding a second train that has to share a turnout as shown below. Each train/transit works fine as long as they're the only train running. If I set a turnout opposite desired state is is set properly on allocation. But this fails if I run two trains coming into the turnout as above and sharing a section of track before one diverges again. Specifically I had train 4 running a transit loop and started a new transit for train 5. Train 4 had a "HELD" red because train 5 allocated the turnout. However, train 4 creeped up and collided with 5. I don't have much stopping distance because the detection is between two ghost turnouts. Train 4 had slowed way down at the yellow and came to a stop then creeped forward to collide.
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PanelPro problem
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#layouteditor
I created a couple turnouts. In trying to use Track Segment to connect them my cursor changes to a ?? sign when i touch the red square connection point. I press and hold shift as I do this. I do press the right hand key to connect but it just moves the turnout lines. This is my hardware setup: Digitrex DCS51 command station loconet: using LocoNet PR3 on COM3 JMRI version 5.10+Rca461bd266 Java version 17.0.12 (en) Lenovo 82 VG x64-based PC Window 11 10.0.22631
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Need help: computer connection to LocoNet freezes
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I’ve been using a script I copied and modified from script examples a couple of decades ago (attached) which “for turnouts in turnouts.getNamedBeanSet() :” sets all but a few of my turnouts to CLOSED. I have a very large basement size layout. An iMac is connected via a LocoBuffer-NG to a Digitrax DCS 240+ which controls 4 DB150 and DB100 boosters. I have confirmed all are working correctly. Recently, this script is causing the connection between my computer and the layout to freeze, for example, I can no longer turn the layout on or off from the computer. Looking at the LocoNet Monitor (attached) I can see some turnouts being set to CLOSED but then the connections begin to fail. As the system keeps trying to set new turnouts and re-trying to set previously failed connections, it stops. This problem has been getting worse over many months, so I can no longer says what I did that might have caused it. And it has taken me several months to narrow down the symptoms this far and figure out how to recover the connection. To recover, I have to quit PanelPro, disconnect the LocoBuffer USB from the computer, reconnect it, and restart PanelPro. My railroads XML file looks OK. All the turnouts that failed to set are included in the XML file and are in the PanelPro turnout table. I don’t know how to access “NamedBeanSet()” to further troubleshoot the problem. Something has probably become disconnected but I can’t find the problem. Any help you can give would be appreciated. Thanks, Nick Brownsberger
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udev rules on Raspberry Pi not working
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I have a LocoBufferUSB and a FT232 serial adapter and I need permanent links for them, for example /dev/ttyLocobufferUSB and /dev/ttyTurntable . lsusb shows: Bus 003 Device 005: ID 0403:c7d0 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd RR-CirKits LocoBuffer-USB Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0403:6001 Future Technology Devices International, Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC I have tried different udev rules but I don't get any links. For example: SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{interface}=="LocoBuffer-USB", SYMLINK+="ttyUSBLocoBuffer" SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{interface}=="Ltd FT232 Serial (UART) IC", SYMLINK+="ttyUSBTurnTable" and ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="c7d0", ENV{ID_MM_CANDIDATE}="0", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*" SYMLINK+="ttyLocoBuffer" ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", ENV{ID_MM_CANDIDATE}="0", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*" SYMLINK+="ttyTurnTable" The rules are in the file /etc/udev/rules.d/90-serial-ports.rule . I have tried both restarting the RPi and this command: sudo udevadm control --reload-rules && sudo udevadm trigger -- Daniel Bergqvist JMRI developer
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WiThrottle server "readLine from device failed" messages
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#withrottleserver
WiThrottle server seems to blast my system console with "readLine from device ... failed" messages. The WiThrottle and EngineDriver apps seem to work fine despite these messages. What do these messages mean and is there any way to fix this? I see this on two different installations. Thanks. -- Tim D. Childs tim.d.childs@... Lansing Model Railroad Club - lmrc.org
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Problems with both DCS210+ and PR3 with programming
Quick details: 5 ports designated in config… Loconet (Com4), Loconet2 (Com5), Loconet3 (virtual), Programmer (COM6), Command Station (COM3). When trying to program/read with DecoderPro, it always goes to the Command Station. Configuration is set for both programming options assigned to the PR3 (Programmer). All other options assigned to CS. Programmer is connected to computer via USB (Com6) and also to Loconet from command station. All other Loconets are set up via USB connections for secondary Loconet via LocoBuffer-USB’s. No combination of USB or LocoNet connections will affect operation of the PR3. When I first start up Panel/DecoderPro, the Program LED on the Command Station begins rapidly flashing red. I CAN still do the quick programming option through the DT602D throttle. Engines will read into DecoderPro on the programming track connected to the DCS210A+. I’m at a loss here. Anyone have a solution? Thanks!!! Jim Duncan 73 de Jim, KU0G Warrensburg, MO EM28rs
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I posted about a solution to a looped layout SML validation failure when using layout editor paths, block and turnout details. This worked until we started making updates to the layout. The original post here: /g/jmriusers/message/238981 - not sure how relevant this is to the discussion at this point but it offered a hack for weird behavior at the time. Now I question my understanding of what SML is trying to do when connected to the layout. I realize this is long and confusing - but it is driving me nuts. To level set - the "correct" path below (1050/1060/1070/1000) is between source mast 1050 eastbound and destination mast 1000 westbound (green line/square). The problem is the SML gets confused and tries to go the other "wrong" path (1030/1020/1010/1000) and then warns that 1070 eastbound mast already exists between the blocks (red line/square). The logic is not wrong per se - but it's not what we want and there is no way to force it without brute force... The only way we figured out how to brute force the SML to take the "right" path is to merge the 1000 block tracks into a single track without the anchor points (see below image). The 1000 block is the the dashed line from 1000 on the left to 1070 on the right (above image) before merging. Is there any other way to force the path between signal mast pairs in a looped layout? Why would the extra anchor points between "tracks" confuse the SML - it is all the same block - the anchor points were just to bend the visual? Minor issue - the fix goofs up the visual symmetry of the layout (below) since the dashed part of the 1000 block is normally hidden and the layout is conceptually linear. By the way - we validated the same issues on track 4 (4000 block) and merging multiple splits in the same block fixed the issue there as well. More info below: - The routing table shows the metric is higher for the 4 hops East (the correct direction). Is it the extra anchors connecting the track? Does this even impact the SML or is this just routing? - You can see the signal masts set at the block boundaries - And then you see the signal mast pairs dialog box
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Layout Panel will not display
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I suddenly got an issue that my layout panel will not display properly. I checked it on my other PC and it will work OK, so I guessing this is a PC related issue? I’ve tried going to an older xml version and that also will not display properly. there are 2 panels and the first of the tow does not display? I have loaded it into problems being worked. but am not sure it’s a file issue? Any help appreciated. Howard
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Decoder Files request...
Does anyone have decoder files for the BLI P5A built already? If so, would greatly appreciate being able to have copies of your BLI decoder files!!! Thanks! Jim Duncan 73 de Jim, KU0G Warrensburg, MO EM28rs
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Old Mac Died; Need to get access to Dropbox JMRI files on new Mac mini.
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#mac-os
I’ve been using JMRI for over a decade but my last computer died and I need to use JMRI on a new Mac mini with the latest software. JMRI 5.10 JAVA 21.0.6+7-LTS ‘Temurin’ Mac mini Apple M2 Sequoia 15.2 Old Computer: 21” iMac (ancient) with recent update of JMRI but hard drive no longer operative NCE System through NCE USB I’ve been using Dropbox for my files so I know where they are, but I’m stumped about how to reach them — Dropbox 'File Locations' won’t let me look at any destination not on my computer. Also, I had two profiles, one for the test track and one for the layout. I’d like to preserve that.
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