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VSD dont work

 

Hello, good evening. I'm trying to set up my own VSD file configuration for JMRI, and after many attempts and modifications, I came across a message that hasn't let me move forward: "Unsupported sound type: SD70." I checked the .wav files and, of course, I had recorded them at 48 kHz as the sample rate, which I reduced to 11 kHz. I repackaged everything, but the message remained exactly the same. Can anyone tell me if this has happened to them and how they resolved it? Thank you very much.
Re: Audio Icon on Web Panel - Java

 

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Vinny,

Is the web browser on top? Or another app on top of the web browser?

If the web browser is on top, is a non JMRI window on top of a JMRI window in the web browser?

Daniel

On 2025-05-20 03:31, Vinny DeRobertis via groups.io wrote:

Is there a way to get around having the panel on top? I don't think think there's a way to make a panel be on top on a specific tablet, correct? In other words, I know how to make a panel be on top on the jmri computer using logix ng but I don't think I can control what panel is on top on a specific tablet, right?
Re: Starting with JMRI sensor reading and signal output: help request

 

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Since you are using CMRI, that means to JMRI the inputs are sensors and outputs are turnouts. You can built signal heads from the turnouts, that¡¯s the simplest way and easy testing. The you can make a mast of signal heads (even if only one head) and then use the Signal Mast Logic to run them. Yes you have to put a Layout Panel together to explain to the SML what is where. But once you do that, it will do the rest of the signal management for you.

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Using Logix or LogixNG for signals is a whole lot of work and easy to make mistakes.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: Starting with JMRI sensor reading and signal output: help request

 

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Erik,

I don't have any experience with C/MRI so I will leave most questions for others to answer.

> 2. where to find tutorials on using LogixNG for driving output signals, based on sensor inputs?

First, you need to ensure that JMRI can control the signals and listen to the sensors. JMRI is only able to control signals that JMRI can control, and listen to sensors that JMRI can read.

After that, the documentation for LogixNG is here:



Daniel

On 2025-05-20 05:54, Erik84750 via groups.io wrote:

JMRI version 5.10
Java version 11.0.17
PC: Windows 10 pro
Background:
1. I am familiar with Decoder Pro (using it to program my DCC++ loco decoders). I am have access to functioning RS485-to-USB converter, C/MRI Smini node
2. I have working block detection (current transormer-based), C/MRI I/O card (SMini)
Question:
1. where to find tutorials on using, adding and editing JMRI functionality for C/MRI connected sensors?
2. where to find tutorials on using LogixNG for driving output signals, based on sensor inputs?
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Several years ago I had managed to get sensors to be read over my C/MRI nodes, and do some very basic experimentation with LogixNG. But now I am starting in earnest with builing a new layout and I would like to be prepared for instllation of proper sensor, signals and turnouts wiring.
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Re: C/MRI 72-Input node: how to configure in JMRI?

 

OK, thanks BillyBob, that is good enough: the initiation code for the Susic (in my comment) is correct, I checked just now. I prefer a second opinion but for lack of that I trust in .. :)
Re: Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width

 

Vince,

That is some really weird behavior.

If you are interested, rename or move the user-interface.xml file and see what happens.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: "Vince Guarna via groups.io" <vince=[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width
Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2025 2:20 PM

Following up: I created a new config profile with both monitors plugged in. I'm leaving everything in the default location (~/Library/Preferences/JMRI/<profile>.jmri)? now even though I had no problem with that in the past. I set the new profile as active and then restarted JMRI. Skinny windows for the settings window and other windows such as all of the edit windows. I closed JMRI and unplugged the secondary monitor. Restart JMRI and everything appeared to work OK. I re-plugged in the second monitor and everything still appears to work as it has for years. I copied a tables file with a lot of data (turnouts, sensors, blocks, signals, LogixNG, etc) into the new profile. Restart JMRI and loaded the new tables file. Everything appears to display fine and all of the edit dialogs are full size as they should be.
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So, it's a little inconvenient to create a new profile but that's a rare event, of course. Most of the functionality is working OK so far so this is very usable. I'll keep plucking away and report back if any showstoppers crop up in the future.
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Thanks for the help, Dave.
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Vince
Re: Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width

 

Following up: I created a new config profile with both monitors plugged in. I'm leaving everything in the default location (~/Library/Preferences/JMRI/<profile>.jmri)? now even though I had no problem with that in the past. I set the new profile as active and then restarted JMRI. Skinny windows for the settings window and other windows such as all of the edit windows. I closed JMRI and unplugged the secondary monitor. Restart JMRI and everything appeared to work OK. I re-plugged in the second monitor and everything still appears to work as it has for years. I copied a tables file with a lot of data (turnouts, sensors, blocks, signals, LogixNG, etc) into the new profile. Restart JMRI and loaded the new tables file. Everything appears to display fine and all of the edit dialogs are full size as they should be.
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So, it's a little inconvenient to create a new profile but that's a rare event, of course. Most of the functionality is working OK so far so this is very usable. I'll keep plucking away and report back if any showstoppers crop up in the future.
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Thanks for the help, Dave.
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Vince
Re: C/MRI 72-Input node: how to configure in JMRI?

 

On 5/20/2025 1:32 PM, Erik84750 via groups.io wrote:
@billybob thank you for that complete answer.
I have a few questions on that:
1. "/Your code would need to handle the C/MRI "Init" message as if it was an SUSIC./": CMRI cmri(CMRI_ADDR, 72, 0, bus);? .correct?
That will have to be answered by someone who knows the (Arduind?) code base you are using. And that isn't me.

2. How do you manage to include the 'B' before the input number?
(You've answered this yourself.)
Re: Engine and bell sounds work but no horn after decoder install

 

Thank you Heiko, that does help. I did not know that you could look at the projects online. Thanks for the links. According to the ESU description, the horn should be in sound slot 3 for this project. But it's not apparently. I have ordered a LocProgrammer to see what's going on, figuring I'll be able to put it to other uses since I have about 20 locos (purchased) with ESU decoders, and plan to do more ESU installs in others.
Best Regards,
Dan
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Re: C/MRI 72-Input node: how to configure in JMRI?

 

...where CMRI_ADDR = 1 (for example)..
Re: C/MRI 72-Input node: how to configure in JMRI?

 

I think i found the answer to my second question:
Alternate Numbering Scheme for C/MRI System Names

An alternate scheme for numbering in C/MRI System Names was developed to give user access to the full number of lines allowed by C/MRI hardware design. The main numbering system allows access to 999 input and output lines on each node. The C/MRI hardware design, however, supports many more bits for USIC and SUSIC nodes. Most JMRI users will never need this alternate scheme, and should use the main numbering scheme.

The alternate numbering scheme is similar to the main numbering scheme, except the node address and bit number are separated by a "B", and both node address and bit number can range to any value supported by C/MRI. The format is thus:

c[c]pn[nn]Bbbbb

where "B" is the separator between the node number and the bit number, which can now go up to 2048 (depending on how the C/MRI node is defined to JMRI).

Still remains question 1: is this initiation for SUSIC 72 inputs, node address 1 correct: CMRI cmri(CMRI_ADDR, 72, 0, bus);
Re: C/MRI 72-Input node: how to configure in JMRI?

 

@billybob thank you for that complete answer.
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I have a few questions on that:
1. "Your code would need to handle the C/MRI "Init" message as if it was an SUSIC.": CMRI cmri(CMRI_ADDR, 72, 0, bus);? .correct?
2. How do you manage to include the 'B' before the input number?
Re: C/MRI 72-Input node: how to configure in JMRI?

 

On 5/20/2025 11:38 AM, Erik84750 via groups.io wrote:
After some searching I discovered that a SUSIC can be configured for 24 or 32 bits, and selectable IO. I then made a SUSIC node 24 bit, with three cards being defined as inputs. In the resulting summary I now see a SUSIC with 0 out bits and 72 in bits.
1. Is that a correct approach for my situation (per the program shown in my OP and with a card having 72 inputs?
It _can_ work, if you implement your (Auduino?) code correctly. Your code would need to handle the C/MRI "Init" message as if it was an SUSIC.

2. how do I address these inputs if the node address = 1? Is that 1001 for the first input and 1072 for the last input?
Almost. JMRI (usually) uses "CS" a "prefix" to define its "System Addresses" for CMRI Sensors. That makes it "CS1001" thru "CS1072" for a CMRI "node" that implements 72 "inputs".

Or JMRI can use an "alternate" way of dealing with the "System Address". In the alternate way, the "CS" prefix stays the same, but the "node address" portion is separated from "input number" by a "B". In this case, the "System Name"s for your case would be "CS1B1" thru "CS1B72".

(I prefer to use the "B" method, because I find the extra "B" helps me see the node address separately from the input/output number.)

Note that the _card_ number is _not_ specificly used as part of the JMRI "System Address". C/MRI's data streams simply do not include a card number. The "Init" message tells the SUSIC how to route data to/from a "card" and the RS-485; only the "Init" message has anything to do with C/MRI "card numbers" when configuring a USIC/SUSIC.

And for completeness, JMRI "System Address"es for Turnouts (C/MRI outputs) use the (usual) prefix "CT", and are otherwise similar to JMRI "System Address"es for JMRI Sensors (C/MRI Inputs), as described above. Again, JMRI's System Addresses start at address 1 for a given node. It doesn't matter which C/MRI "card" implements the first output (JMRI "Turnout"). And JMRI can use then "alternate" way of addressing Turnout "System Addresses", too. The JMRI "Turnouts" start at

- "CS(node number)(3-digit address, starting at 001)", or, alternately,

- "CS(node number)B(address, starting at 1)".
Re: Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width

 

Breaking News....I plugged the second monitor in again and now all seems to be working.
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I'll try adding a new profile or two to see if the luck holds....
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Vince
Re: Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width

 

Cosmic -- I had just had the same thought when your email came in. I unplugged the Thunderbolt and, sure enough, the turnout edit dialog appears in full size!
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This is partially good news...but I frequently have many tables open... as well as two full screen layout panels. Very crowded. I would also hate to have to unplug and replug a monitor every time I go into and out of JMRI.
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Is there something I can look at to see what is different in the UI with one vs two monitors?
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Also, I don't suppose it's relevant, but the older (working) machine runs with Adoptium version of Java 11.
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Vince
Re: C/MRI 72-Input node: how to configure in JMRI?

 

After some searching I discovered that a SUSIC can be configured for 24 or 32 bits, and selectable IO. I then made a SUSIC node 24 bit, with three cards being defined as inputs. In the resulting summary I now see a SUSIC with 0 out bits and 72 in bits.
1. Is that a correct approach for my situation (per the program shown in my OP and with a card having 72 inputs?
2. how do I address these inputs if the node address = 1? Is that 1001 for the first input and 1072 for the last input?
Re: Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width

 

Vince,

The context looks ok. ?

You might try using a single monitor as a test.

It appears that you have the macOS menu bar hidden. ?That should not make a difference.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: "Vince Guarna via groups.io" <vince=[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width
Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2025 10:10 AM

Sorry about the image pasting for the log....rookie mistake.
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I have two monitors. My main display is the Apple 27" 5K display (5120x2880) and the other is an old 27" Thunderbolt display (2560x1440).
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It's interesting that JMRI was opening on my secondary screen (lower res). And, I can see in the context file that its resolution is reflected there. I did another quick experiment by moving the startup JMRI dialog to my main screen and close/re-opened JMRI. The startup dialog was then on the main screen. No change in behaviors, tho.
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By the way, my older machine is one of the old Intel iMacs that also has a 5K screen. I used this same Thunderbolt monitor as the secondary screen. JMRI 5.10 worked fine there. FWIW. I'm going to do a diff on the two context files to see if there's anything interesting to look at.
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Here is the content of the Context window (I XXX'ed out local network specifics figuring they were not important):
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JMRI Version: 5.10+Rca461bd266 ??
JMRI configuration file name: null ? (from org.jmri.apps.Apps.configFilename system property)
JMRI main window name: LocoNet Simulator ??
JMRI Application: PanelPro ??
Connection 0: Digitrax connected via LocoNet Simulator on (none) Disabled false ??
Available Communication Ports:
?Found 4 serial ports
?Port: cu.debug-console
?Port: tty.debug-console
?Port: cu.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port
?Port: tty.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port
Active profile: My JMRI Railroad ??
Profile location: /Users/vince/Library/Preferences/JMRI/My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri ??
Profile ID: My_JMRI_Railroad.3f232d79 ??
JMRI Network ID: jmri-1C1DD3D6BA2F-3f232d79
JMRI Storage ID: 659c4cb1-9b31-46e2-8f8f-0f98b2459238
Preferences directory: /Users/vince/Library/Preferences/JMRI/My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri/ ??
Program directory: /Applications/JMRI ??
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Current panel file: [none] ??
Locale: en
Audio factory type: [not initialised] ??
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Re: Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width

 

Sorry about the image pasting for the log....rookie mistake.
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I have two monitors. My main display is the Apple 27" 5K display (5120x2880) and the other is an old 27" Thunderbolt display (2560x1440).
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It's interesting that JMRI was opening on my secondary screen (lower res). And, I can see in the context file that its resolution is reflected there. I did another quick experiment by moving the startup JMRI dialog to my main screen and close/re-opened JMRI. The startup dialog was then on the main screen. No change in behaviors, tho.
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By the way, my older machine is one of the old Intel iMacs that also has a 5K screen. I used this same Thunderbolt monitor as the secondary screen. JMRI 5.10 worked fine there. FWIW. I'm going to do a diff on the two context files to see if there's anything interesting to look at.
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Here is the content of the Context window (I XXX'ed out local network specifics figuring they were not important):
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JMRI Version: 5.10+Rca461bd266 ??
JMRI configuration file name: null ? (from org.jmri.apps.Apps.configFilename system property)
JMRI main window name: LocoNet Simulator ??
JMRI Application: PanelPro ??
Connection 0: Digitrax connected via LocoNet Simulator on (none) Disabled false ??
Available Communication Ports:
?Found 4 serial ports
?Port: cu.debug-console
?Port: tty.debug-console
?Port: cu.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port
?Port: tty.Bluetooth-Incoming-Port
Active profile: My JMRI Railroad ??
Profile location: /Users/vince/Library/Preferences/JMRI/My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri ??
Profile ID: My_JMRI_Railroad.3f232d79 ??
JMRI Network ID: jmri-1C1DD3D6BA2F-3f232d79
JMRI Storage ID: 659c4cb1-9b31-46e2-8f8f-0f98b2459238
Preferences directory: /Users/vince/Library/Preferences/JMRI/My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri/ ??
Program directory: /Applications/JMRI ??
Roster index location: /Users/vince/Library/Preferences/JMRI/My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri/roster.xml ??
Current panel file: [none] ??
Locale: en
Audio factory type: [not initialised] ??
java.version: 17.0.15 ??
java.vendor: Azul Systems, Inc. ??
java.home: /Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/zulu-17.jdk/Contents/Home ??
java.vm.version: 17.0.15+6-LTS ??
java.vm.vendor: Azul Systems, Inc. ??
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java.specification.version: 17 ??
java.specification.vendor: Oracle Corporation ??
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Re: Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width

 

Vince,

For future reference, use the "Copy to clipboard" button to get the system console text. ?Screenshots don't zoom well and the text cannot be copied.

Since you are running a Mac Studio, that means you have an external monitor. ?What is it? ?Also, go to "Help -> Context". ?Use the "Copy to clipboard" button and paste the content. ?That should tell us what the display looks like to Java.

Make note of the "storage identify" line. ?The user-interface.xml file is located within that directory which is in the profile directory at the user files location. ?That file contains a number of GUI settings, including window location and sizes. ?

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: "Vince Guarna via groups.io" <vince=[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Edit dialog boxes do not open with full width
Date: Tuesday, May 20, 2025 9:05 AM

OK, clean start.
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  1. Wiped out /Applications/JMRI and /Users/Vince/Library/Preferences/JMRI.
  2. Re-installed 5.10
  3. Started JMRI for the first time
  4. It creates My_JMRI_Railroad and opens the skinny settings window.
  5. I stretch the settings window
  6. Added a LocoNet simulator connection
  7. Allow it to restart JMRI.
  8. Open the settings window - it looks fine (it remembered the size I set it to)
  9. Go to Tools -> Tables -> Turnouts
  10. Add a LocoNet turnout LT333
  11. Click the Edit button on the line for that turnout in the table (it's the only line, of course).
  12. It's a skinny edit window. I stretch it out until the layout is correct.
  13. Added a comment
  14. Clicked Apply and OK.
  15. The table now reflects the comment I added (good)
  16. Click edit again and get the skinny window again (it did not remember the size I stretched it to)
  17. Open the console log - it's a skinny window
  18. Stretch the window out far enough for no line breaks.
  19. Close the window.
  20. Reopen the console window - it remembered the size.
  21. Here's the log (no errors):

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This should all have been done with a fresh JMRI installation. No new folders, no extra profiles. Most non-UI things seem to work. For fun, I opened the Monitor LocoNet window. It first appears as a skinny window but I stretched it and it retains its size after closing and re-opening and also quitting and restarting JMRI. Pushed the State button on the table a few times and the right message appear in the monitor window, FWIW.
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The problem is so consistent - seems like it's one of those "simple once you know what it is" things. But I can't think of anything else to look at or try.
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Vince
Re: Colors for JMRI shirts (was re: JMRI merchandise for donations

 

For Tee I vote cool grey and also royal blue with inverted logo.?

For denim, faded blue.?

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