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Re: Can't access tables
Thanks Dave/Ken for looking into it.
Sounds like good news.? I will report back of course when I have received and fitted the update to the SB3a.? My sensors are already created, with NS prefixes so, fingers crossed!
Kind regards,Harold.
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On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 9:12:39 PM GMT, 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
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Harold,
The only thing is you will have to create the sensors first for the AIU's to
be seen.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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----- Forwarded Message ----- From: John Parrish < [email protected]> To: "JMRIusers@..." <JMRIusers@...> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:21 PM Subject: Subject: Issues with latest version 4.10 Hello, I'm having some difficulties after recently upgrading to 4.10 just after the new year.? + Computer make and model - HP Compaq 6220 + Computer Operating System - Windows 7 + JMRI version installed - 4.10 ? + if you just upgraded, from which version - 4.9?(I think) + JAVA version installed - 1.8 + Interface device (if any) + DCC system in use - Digitrax DCS50? ? ? ? (the specific model, not just the manufacturer) + Any other DCC devices in use - Soundtraxx PTB-100 / Locobuffer - USB 2.0 + Com port in use (if any) - COM5?? + Baud Rate settings (if known) + Specific details of your difficulty, including error messages if any. ?I am suddenly having issues with: - Trying to read correct CV's and change CV's using my JMRI and power system (have been doing this successfully for 3 years now).?? - Could not?change sound levels or type of sound on?a new Soundtraxx?Sound Car decoder.? I use Programming Track. - I noticed that the ON/OFF light on the JMRI screen showed "Unknown", and when I tried to change it, ?????????to "On" (green) or "Off (red) using my "power" on/off button on my throttle as it has always done in the past, it did not take it.? The light did not change ???????? and "Unknown" was still illuminated.??I had to move the curser to the box and then click to get ON or OFF. - When I put a Soundtraxx decoder on the track and went to "Read New Loco", it read some other decoder that I had never heard of:? Massoth Elektronik, Gmbh???? - The Loconet "box" keeps popping up everytime I go into JMRI.? I have saved it each time, but it comes up again and keeps asking if I want to save it or deleate it.? I have been reading some group remarks today about issues with the 4.10, yes?? Should I go to the next level...4.11, or?do I need to revert to an earlier version than 4.10??? Your assistance is most appreciated. John
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Re: Problem with Sensor Table in 4.11.3
OK, since we are talking sensor tables again, I have a few questions for
those with knowledge of Team Digital BlocD8 sensors, although these
questions might refer to any sensor.
In Panel Pro, on the sensor Input page:
Is it common to keep the invert box checked or unchecked. I assume this
inverts the data coming from the sensor, so would typically remained
unchecked. So an unchecked box would result in a sensor output of 1 when
the block is occupied and 0 if the invert box is checked.
If you have no Secondary Address, is 0 the right entry? And the other boxes
are of no consequence?
On the Outputs page, I think I understand assigning C or T and the sensor
hi and lo, an occupied block would yield a hi if set to C and a lo if set
to T, but how does this relate to the invert box above? For example if
sensor 1 is set to invert, does this also invert the state, making C lo and
T hi?
Finally, on the Options page, there is a box regarding giving a response on
a Digitrax interrogation. What does this mean?
Thanks,
Jerry Michels
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Re: Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app
That was it. The default preferences were not all set to Loconet. Changed them, restarted and now all the turnouts work.?
Thanks for the help
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If you cannot throw turnouts from JMRI that tells you to concentrate on making JMRI work. EngineDriver certainly won¡¯t be able to throw turnouts if JMRI can¡¯t do it. Try some basic JMRI checks first:
* Look at Edit=>Preferences=>Defaults and confirm that every column is set to Loconet.
* Can you turn layout power on/off from JMRI using Tools=>Power Control? If not, look at
Help=>System Console and see if there are any errors reported.
etc
Robin
From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 6:30 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app
I can confirm that as of right now we cannot throw turnouts from the JMRI turnouts table. Only from the digitrax throttles.
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Sounds good. Here¡¯s a suggestion for things to try in order when you get there:
Confirm that you can throw a turnout from JMRI. You can do this from the Turnout Table or using the Turnout tool. If you cannot throw a turnout from JMRI then there is no need to mess around with Engine Driver. We have to get JMRI working first.
If you can throw a turnout from JMRI, try it from Engine Driver with the Monitor Loconet window open. This will confirm whether or not JMRI is issuing the turnout command in response to Engine Driver.
From there we can narrow it down some more. Good luck with the testing!
Robin
From: jmriusers@... <mailto:jmriusers@...> [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 4:04 PM
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Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app
It's a club layout so I'll have to try that n3xt time I can get over there.
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Ok, that¡¯s good. With the Monitor Loconet window open, do you see anything happen in that window when you click a turnout in Engine Driver?
Robin
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Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app
The turnouts are in the table and show on the turnouts page of the Engine Driver App.
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Sorry if this has been suggested already, but in JMRI=>Preferences=>Withrottle under ¡°Allowed Controls¡± is the Turnouts box checked? If not check that box, save the prefs and restart JMRI.
The turnouts that you wish to control via Engine Driver must already be in your Turnout Table. So if you try to control LT13 from Engine Driver and there is no entry in your Turnout Table for LT13 that it will not work. HTH.
Robin
Robin Becker
San Diego, CA
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Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app
It automatically did that.
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-------- Original message --------From: "'Bruce J. Clews' bclews@... <mailto:bclews@...> <mailto:bclews@...> <mailto:bclews@...> <mailto:bclews@...> [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@... <mailto:jmriusers@...%20%3cmailto:jmriusers@...%20%3cmailto:jmriusers@...%20%3cmailto:jmriusers@...> <mailto:jmriusers@...%20%3cmailto:jmriusers@...%20%3cmailto:jmriusers@...> <mailto:jmriusers@...%20%3cmailto:jmriusers@...> <mailto:jmriusers@...> > Date: 3/5/18 12:59 PM (GMT-06:00) To: jmriusers@... <mailto:jmriusers@...> <mailto:jmriusers@...> <mailto:jmriusers@...> <mailto:jmriusers@...> Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app
Just saw this post so may be a little bit behind but did you add the prefix LT before turnout number?
Bruce Clews
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Subject: RE: [jmriusers] Turnouts not working from Engine Driver app
It is a Loconet system. The turnouts work when thrown from a Digitrax throttle.
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One other test is the turnout from a real throttle on the native system
(bypass JMRI completely). If that doesn't work, JMRI won't be able to
either. I don't recall which vendor your system is: NCE, LocoNet, etc.............
If the turnouts are not working from the JMRI tables, there is a connection
or configuration issue. So if the throttle are working, from JMRI or via the
phones, you have a connection. Then it becomes configuration issues. One
spot to check is the 'Preferences->Defaults' tab. Make sure selections are
point to the system and not Internal.
Next is open and watch the Help->System Console, it may be displaying error
when you try to operate the turnouts. This will give us more clues.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: Help with closing a socket on JMRI
At a guess you initially bound the socket before you opened it. You closed the socket but never unbound it so it is still "attached" to the original instance when you try to open it again. Try an unbind command to see if it frees it up. Mike Piazza On Mar 7, 2018 14:47, "kd.marsh@... [jmriusers]" < jmriusers@...> wrote:
Hi All
I recently succeeded in getting a number of computers running JMRI to
share sensor information with each other using sockets. The only problem is
that I cannot work out how two close the socket.
If the socket has been opened on a port and then closed (due to a
disconnection of some sort) it is not possible to re-open the socket as the
port is still in use form the previous time I'd opened the socket. The only
way I can close it is to shut JMRI and re-open it which is a real pain.
A lot of the things I have in below we're in an attempt to correctly close
the socket.
I open a socket using the following code:
start_new_thread(Simulator.links,('East',Simulator.sim2EastPort))
def links(name,port):
Simulator.log( name+' handle')
Simulator.log( 'port:'+str(port))
if Simulator.interlocking == 'West':
host = Simulator.westIp
else:
host = Simulator.eastIp
s = socket.socket()
s.bind((host,port))
Simulator.log( name+' RX Server Started')
while Simulator.closePort != name:
try:
s.listen(1)
Simulator.log( name+' RX listening')
except:
Simulator.log( name+' RX failed')
pass
c, addr = s.accept()
Simulator.log( name+' RX Connection from: '+str(addr))
while True and Simulator.closePort != name :
data = c.recv(2048)
if not data:
break
try:
if data[-1] == '4':
InstanceManager.sensorManagerInstance().getSensor(data[:-1]).setKnownState(Sensor.INACTIVE)
if data[-1] == '2':
InstanceManager.sensorManagerInstance().getSensor(data[:-1]).setKnownState(Sensor.ACTIVE)
except:
Simulator.log( 'failed to find sensor:'+data[:-1])
c.close()
s.close()
Simulator.log( name+' RX closed port')
if Simulator.closePort != name:
return 1
else:
Simulator.closePort = None
return 0
links = SPSstaticMethod(links)
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Kev
(PS, I'm no programmer, I got this far by trial, error and lots of copy
and paste.)
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Re: JMRI Throttle Problems
Hi Folks
Thanks for the info on the latest test version
Will make the change to this version and try it; will let the group know what occurs
John Stewart
www. bhamrails.info
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Hi Dave, thanks for the explanation, and thanks again for fixing my xml file. Now back to playing trains.
Cheers,
Darren
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Re: Problem with Sensor Table in 4.11.3
Peter G,
Yes the sensor button in the table is a known issue with 4.11.3. It is fixed
in 4.11.4 which will be released sometime soon. I think the cycle has
another week to go.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Help with closing a socket on JMRI
Hi All
I recently succeeded in getting a number of computers running JMRI to share sensor information with each other using sockets. The only problem is that I cannot work out how two close the socket.
If the socket has been opened on a port and then closed (due to a disconnection of some sort) it is not possible to re-open the socket as the port is still in use form the previous time I'd opened the socket. The only way I can close it is to shut JMRI and re-open it which is a real pain.
A lot of the things I have in below we're in an attempt to correctly close the socket.
I open a socket using the following code:
start_new_thread(Simulator.links,('East',Simulator.sim2EastPort))
def links(name,port):
Simulator.log( name+' handle')
Simulator.log( 'port:'+str(port))
if Simulator.interlocking == 'West':
host = Simulator.westIp
else:
host = Simulator.eastIp
s = socket.socket()
s.bind((host,port))
Simulator.log( name+' RX Server Started')
while Simulator.closePort != name:
try:
s.listen(1)
Simulator.log( name+' RX listening')
except:
Simulator.log( name+' RX failed')
pass
c, addr = s.accept()
Simulator.log( name+' RX Connection from: '+str(addr))
while True and Simulator.closePort != name :
data = c.recv(2048)
if not data:
break
try:
if data[-1] == '4':
InstanceManager.sensorManagerInstance().getSensor(data[:-1]).setKnownState(Sensor.INACTIVE)
if data[-1] == '2':
InstanceManager.sensorManagerInstance().getSensor(data[:-1]).setKnownState(Sensor.ACTIVE)
except:
Simulator.log( 'failed to find sensor:'+data[:-1])
c.close()
s.close()
Simulator.log( name+' RX closed port')
if Simulator.closePort != name:
return 1
else:
Simulator.closePort = None
return 0
links = SPSstaticMethod(links)
Can anyone help?
Thanks.
Kev
(PS, I'm no programmer, I got this far by trial, error and lots of copy and paste.)
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Problem with Sensor Table in 4.11.3
Hi,
I just upgraded from test release 4.11.2 to 4.11.3 and I find I cannot now change the state of any sensors from inside the sensor table. Clicking on the button has no effect. I have reverted to 4.11.2 and it works perfectly.
Peter Goss
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Re: Alternate languages for Engine Driver - Opinions and Volunteers
It much depends on the deadlines. Im currently unemployed so now i can dedicate time to this, but I cannot guarantee the same dedication in case i get a job, sooner or later. Which is the tipical time frame for a development like this?
Roberto
Hi, there are no specific time frames for this. When each language is done we can release it. If it is never finished, that language won't be released.
As mentioned, we will be grateful of any assistance.
Can you contact me directly at the email address below and I can work through the process with you. (I am not sure I can see your email address)
Thanks
Peter
Akersp62@...
(Brisbane Australia)
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Re: JMRI Throttle Problems
Mike and John,
JMRI 4.10 has known problems in acquiring and releasing LocoNet throttles.
This includes acquisition via WiThrottleServer.
JMRI version 4.11.3 included some SIGNIFICANT improvements to JMRI
acquisition of LocoNet throttles.
Please try JMRI 4.11.3. I have not noticed any reports of LocoNet throttle
acquisition/release problems with JMRI 4.11.3.
If you continue to have problems acquiring and releasing throttles with JMRI
4.11.3, please report those problems here.
Regards,
Billybob
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Re: Can't access tables
Harold,
The only thing is you will have to create the sensors first for the AIU's to
be seen.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Re: Can't access tables
We've now come to the conclusion that you will be fine.
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Dave in Australia
The New England Convention 2018
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On 8 Mar 2018, at 7:00 AM, Harold Thompson haroldthompson157@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
I'm sure you understand your exchanges but, for me, they may as well be in Chinese!. The bottom line for me is, once I have v1.65b software in my SB3a, will JMRI receive the signals from my nine IRDOTs and trigger each stage in my shuttle script? The script controls a DMU sound, horn, throttle and several turnouts at each sensor.
When I approached NCE initially, I told them the purpose of the AIU and sensors, and they did not indicate that there would be any problem.
Thanks,Harold.
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Re: Can't access tables
Dave,
My understand of the command station cycle is it polls all cab addresses
either fast (ones it has got responses before) and those that didn't respond
(infrequent to see something get added). So it will have read the AIU. What
I don't see in the memory of the system is the extra mapping of how it knows
a bit has changed or not. So I suspect that isn't in the USB memory space
and why the other command, but that is a guess.
Key is we get AIU with the USB and it seems to work.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Re: Alternate languages for Engine Driver - Opinions and Volunteers
It much depends on the deadlines. Im currently unemployed so now i can
dedicate time to this, but I cannot guarantee the same dedication in case i
get a job, sooner or later. Which is the tipical time frame for a
development like this?
Regards
Roberto
2018-03-06 19:11 GMT-03:00 akersp62@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...>:
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Hi. I can do translations for Italian and Portuguese, but i don't know
how
much of a programming knowledge is required. If it's oly a matter of
translating text strings in an excel sheet, i can do it, else, I'm not sure
i can tackle it.
Regards
Roberto
Hi,
You won't need to know anything about programming. Yes, all the text that
needs to be translated is in a spreadsheet.
It is just a commitment of time.
There are over 500 short phrases and sentences that need to be
translated,. Then the volunteers would need to test the new text by running
Engine Driver thoroughly and send screen shots of any problems, along with
the corrections, to me.
We would also need them occasionally help translate when new features are
added.
As I said... A commitment of time.
If you are still up for the challenge after hearing that, we would welcome
your assistance.
Peter
(Brisbane Australia)
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Re: Can't access tables
Dave/Ken,
I'm sure you understand your exchanges but, for me, they may as well be in Chinese!.? The bottom line for me is, once I have v1.65b software in my SB3a, will JMRI receive the signals from my nine IRDOTs and trigger each stage in my shuttle script?? The script controls a DMU sound, horn, throttle and several turnouts at each sensor.
When I approached NCE initially, I told them the purpose of the AIU and sensors, and they did not indicate that there would be any problem.
Thanks,Harold.
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On Wednesday, March 7, 2018, 7:32:57 PM GMT, Dave Heap dgheap@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? Tried the Power Pro and the only difference was that it used the 0x8A command instead of the 0x9B command and got a 4 byte reply instead of a 2 byte reply. There were no memory read commands from JMRI. -- Dave in Australia The New England Convention 2018 On 8 Mar 2018, at 6:21 AM, Dave Heap <dgheap@...> wrote:
Possibly so. I'll check my Power Pro.
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Re: Can't access tables
My guess is that the 0x8A command uses the CS Memory Block to compare/store the last polled state for the AIU, hence populating the last two bytes.
It's possible the Power CS does actually poll all known AIUs at the cab bus level and update the memory block. It probably also plays a part in AIU Broadcast mode (which we don't use).
--
Dave
The New England Convention 2018
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Tried the Power Pro and the only difference was that it used the 0x8A command instead of the 0x9B command and got a 4 byte reply instead of a 2 byte reply.
There were no memory read commands from JMRI.
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Re: Operations: Creating a passenger train questions
Well I figured it out. I had defined the cars as 'passenger' in the drop down menu under the cars menu but I had not checked the box underneath the drop down which has a list of passenger, caboose, FRED, utility, etc.
Checking the passenger box fixed the problem.
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