Re: Train speed using sensors and Dispatcher

#149838

Hi Graham
The AutoEngineer sets the speed of the train by the "Controlling Signal"
It uses a different process depending on whether you use Signal Masts (Signal Mast Logic (SML)) or SIgnal Heads (Simple Systems Logic(SSL)).
If using using SML, the speed is set by using the "Controlling Mast" and the previous "Controlling Mast" and uses the lesser of the two.
So if you have a train train that passes a signal if that signal is "Proceed" and the next signal ahead (the controlling Signal Mast) is "Caution" it slows to the speed defined by "Caution" in preferences->warrents. if the signal ahead is "Stop" it slows to a stop using what ever stopping algorithm is you have set, stopping sensor, speed profile, length etc.

In SSL it only looks at the Signal Head in ahead of it.

The aspect of the signal is set in SML by finding the minimum speed of all the blocks and turnouts between the the two masts, that is the slowest speed encountered between the mast in front of the train and the next one. If both those masts are green, or proceed or whatever aspect the signal system you are using, and you ask the train the pause on entering the block it will decelerate quickly, in which case setting a lower speed with an action on entering the previous block is valid.
Another way is to set the speed of the stopping block to a slower speed.?
Another way is to define the section with station as a safe section, and run the train by safe sections, then the signal at the end of the platform will be red and therefore the previous one would be caution. There is? a bug here if you use auto generated sections which will be fixed in the next 4.13.x release.)

But what ever you do make sure that the warrant preference are set to you liking and the scale is correct for both the panel and the warrants. If you use a signal system that uses different words for the aspects and you have not defined that aspect in warrants there will be a warning in the log.

Hope that's clearer than mud, but maybe not.

Steve G.

Re: Logix Field missing in 4.11.9 upgrade

#149837

Ron,

I have fixed your xml file and uploaded it to the folder that you created.

There were a number of fixes required.

Removed trailing spaces from system and user names.
Added IX prefixes to Logix and Conditional system names that had numeric system names.
Added IR prefixes to Route system names that had numeric system names.

The numeric system names cause Tools >> Tables entries to disappear.

Since you were running 4.6, the name validation was not as robust.

Dave Sand

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On Jul 19, 2018, at 10:37 AM, rwwhite51@... wrote:

Thanks Dave. ?There were no error messages that I could see. ?So I hope I was able to download my panel file to ProblemsBeingWorkedOn. ?Thank?you for your help.

Re: Engine Driver Suggestion

#149836

The base issue here is how to customize for each decoder type.
I use lots of Loksound. Some with FT (Brakes, etc.) and some without.
I also have lots of older Tsunami, which run and sound great, no brake or fancy new features.
Combine that with non-sound Loks, one Zimo Lok, and various others, including some QSI factory decoders, and you have to do custom setups for each throttle you create.
I for one do NOT want to customize ED for a specific decoder type. Just go to the roster entry in JMRI and set the function labels to match the decoder definitions. Brake shows up for brake function for that Lok. No brake button, you have not set that up, or not available on that decoder.

Set button label, or customize the look and feel of the whole app? Answer is obvious for me.
If you want to do or have something like that, please do, but name it something else, not generic Engine Throttle.

Just my opinion.
Thomas
DeSoto, TX

Re: "OutOfMemoryError" while trying to load PanelPro file - Help!

#149835

Nick,

How much memory do you have on your Mac?

There should be a launcher.log file in the same directory as the messages.log and session.log files.  Copy and paste the contents of that file.

Dave Sand

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On Jul 24, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Nick Brownsberger <nbrownsbe@...> wrote:

I can't load my panel file.  When I  choose the panel file to load nothing more happens, PanelPro is locked up and I have to force quit the application. Problem began this morning.  Have been working in PanelPro for the last several weeks with no problems. Sometimes I get this message: 

2018-07-24 12:42:47,299 configurexml.ErrorHandler             ERROR - Unexpected error (Throwable) while in load(/Users/nickbrownsberger/Documents/TRAINS/My_JMRI_Railroad/Layout%20Panel%20v397%20speeds.xml) in adaptor of type jmri.jmrix.internal.configurexml.InternalTurnoutManagerXml Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

The memory log and my latest Panel file will shortly be in ProblemsBeingWorkedOn>Nick Brownsberger.

PanelPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_171 on Mac OS X x86_64 v10.11.6

I've tried rebooting my IMac, going back to JMRI version 4.11.8 from 4.12, loading panel files I saved from two weeks ago that don't have any of my recent changes and additions, all to no avail.

Need some help! Please.

Nick

Re: WiThrottle and JMRI Questions

#149834

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Who is "JMRI tech Support"?

JMRI is not a company or organisation. It is an informal group of users and completely volunteer software contributors (developers).

This list (jmriusers) is first-level "JMRI tech Support".

If you have a specific issue to report (usually after seeking advice on this list) you can raise an issue on our GitHub web page. But GitHub Issues is not an advice forum and there is no obligation on any volunteer developer to deal with a posted issue.

--?

Dave in Australia

The New England Convention 2018

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On 25 Jul 2018, at 4:16 AM, Classic Auto Portraits <classicautoportraits@...> wrote:

I have a query into JMRI tech Support.

Re: Engine Driver Suggestion

#149833

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See below:

On 24 Jul 2018, at 9:47 PM, R Morningstar <bobmorning@...> wrote:

Regarding question 1,? when the throttle goes to idle it is the same as issuing a speed step 0 command and the momentum functionality takes over.

In WiThrottle, ?the IDLE button between FWD and REV does exactly that. I have no reason to doubt that the very similar buttons in Engine Driver do the same.

In JMRI throttles, the red dot between the two direction arrows does the same.

When the brake level is applied, the value in CV61 is used to accelerate the end of the momentum feature.?? For Soundtraxx Tsunami decoders there are multiple CVs that work in conjunction to simulate braking:
????? CV4 - Baseline braking rate?? (emulating momentum of the moving mass of a train when the throttle is at idle)
????? CV61 - F11 Braking rate when the F11 button is pressed. The throttle is set to 0, forcing the decoder to decelerate to a stop eventually.? This value is a subtraction or addition offset to CV4 depending on the sign of the value is CV61.

Econami decoders use CV4 and CV117? (see excellent article at .?? For whatever reason Econami and Tsunami use different CVs for the F11 brake rate offset.?? Go figure.

I hope I got this right, my apologies in advance if something is amiss.?? I did do my research.

QSI decoders use F7 and don't override the throttle.

Older LokSound decoder projects effectively halved the value in CV4, but didn't override the throttle.

LokSound Full Throttle projects introduced an "Independent Brake" feature that does override the throttle. I can't remember which key it is assigned to but suspect Greg's suggestion of F10.

The latest LokSound firmware introduces an new CV (179 from memory) that is used instead of half-CV4.

The majority of SoundTraxx users I know remap the brake to F7.

If not all locos in a consist use identical decoder brands, versions and settings you have a problem.

Such is (at least some of) the situation out there.

Dave in Australia

JMRI and Sound Traxx.

Roger T

#149832

I've bought an Athearn Genesis 2-802 with a Sound Traxx decoder and am
having problems with a few sound FX using JMRI, mostly to do with levels.

I am used to program the Bachmann decoders which allow you to set levels for
various FX but it seems this is not possible for the Sound Traxx decoder.

Other than the whistle and the bell, I like my sound FX to be barely audible
from four to five feet away as, in HO scale, that seems more realistic.
However, using JMRI it's only possible to set the over all sound levels
which with a Sound Traxx decoder means the chuff FX becomes mushy and barely
audible.  While I like the whistle to be loud, I like the bell to be audible
over the other FX but not as loud as the whistle.

I'm not used to programming individual CVs so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Roger T.

Re: Train speed using sensors and Dispatcher

#149831

Graham,

You can use Actions to control your auto train including slowing for a station stop. Actions can be set in the Transit table for any Section included in the Transit. Below is an excerpt from the Transit table Help page regarding Actions. One of the "What"'s you can do is Set Train Speed; another is Ramp Train Speed, to any speed setting above about 20%. There is also a Pause Action if you want the train to stop.

You can also set the Ramp Rate for an auto train when you select New Train in the Dispatcher window. One of the settings available is Slow. Also take a look at the Ramp Increment setting in Dispatcher Options.

By using the Action: Pause with the "When" set for Section Entry with a delay of some number of seconds (milliseconds in the Action window) and also adjusting the setting for Ramp Rate you can achieve very realistic station stops.

Nick

Specifying Actions for Automatic Running

Transits support a variety of?Actionsthat automatically happen when a Train is run through the Transit in Automatic mode. One or more?Actionsmay be specified with each Section in the Transit.?Actionare initiated when their associated Section in the Transit is entered by the Automatically run Train.
Each?Actionhas two parts:

a?Whenpart, that specifies when the?Actionis to be performed, and
a?Whatpart, that specifies what?Actiontask is to be performed.

A commonly used Action, for example, is "When the train starts, turn on its headlight." More information on Actions is located in the Actions. Read?more on Actions.

Re: WiThrottle and JMRI Questions

Classic Auto Portraits

#149830

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Dear Spuds,

Computer/Jmri connected to the 240 via USB port on 240.

Robert

On 7/24/18 11:05 AM, Spuds McCat wrote:

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4.10 has some loconet slot 'issues', upgrade to 4.12 which came out last week.?

How is the computer/Jmri connected to the 240?

The LW?I is independant from JMRI, a phone connected to it wont show in JMRI

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 19:48 <classicautoportraits@...> wrote:

Dear JMRI Users,

I just joined the group and this is my first post. To all you WiThrottle-JMRI-Mac "gurus,"

I recently converted my N Scale layout from DC to DCC. I installed a Digitrax DSC240 Advance Command Station with Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface.
I downloaded JMRI Panel Pro and Decoder Pro 4.10 Software and installed it on my MacBook Pro running OSX 10.10.2 Yosemite
I purchased, downloaded and installed WiThrottle on my iPad.
The Digitrax DSC240 Advance Command Station is connected to an isolated programming track per the manual. The WiThrottle is connected via the Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface.

I'm having two issues:
1. I cannot program any locomotives on the isolated programming track.
The JMRI Decoder Pro software is giving me the prompt: "Programmer error. Programmer busy (302)" (See JPEG image below)
The WiThrottle JMRI webpage states:
302 — programmer busyThe command station has reported that it's busy doing something else, and can't do any programming right now.This usually means that some other part of the DCC system is doing a programming operation, e.g. a hand-held throttle.Some DCC systems can't do ops-mode programming (programming on the main) while also using the service mode programming track, in which case they'll return this error message.
I'm not doing any programming anywhere else on the layout.______________________

2. The WiThrottle will not allow me to change addresses.After entering address the address is displayed in "Recents." Once I've programmed an address, in this case 6035, when I try to enter the address a second time I get the prompt: "Loco 6035(L) In-Use Would you like to acquire this address?" When I click the YES button nothing happens, even with repeated pressing. When I click the NO button the window disappears, but the cycle repeats and remains NOT SET. I tried to delete the Roster addresses, It's like the WiThrottle gets "stuck."I also get the prompt "Unable to load JMRI WebServer page." It appears that the WiThrottle is not "seeing" the the server" (my MacBook Pro).See JPEG graphic below.

The PanelPro appears to "see" the WiThrottle in the "Advertising WiThrottle" window, but no device is showing the the Device Name window. The DecoderPro doesn't "see" the WiThrottle in the "Advertising WiThrottle" window, and no device is showing the the Device Name window. See JPEG graphics in photo section under WiThrottle and JMRI Questions.
I suspect these issues may be connected and may have to do with the drivers.

PLEASE ADVISE,Regards,Robert Diepenbrock

Re: WiThrottle and JMRI Questions

[email protected]

#149829

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Dear Spuds,

Thanks for your reply.
I Upgraded to JMRI 4.12 which solved the iso-track programming issue.

Still having the WiThrottle issue. I have a query into JMRI tech Support.
The WiThrottle will not allow me to change addresses. Once I've programmed an address, in this case 6035, when I try to enter the address a second time I get the prompt: "Loco 6035(L) In-Use Would you like to acquire this address?" When I click the YES button nothing happens, even with repeated pressing. When I click the NO button the window disappears, but the cycle repeats and remains NOT SET. I tried to delete the Roster addresses, It's like the WiThrottle gets "stuck."I also get the prompt "Unable to load JMRI WebServer page."
This issue is across three different devices, one iPad and 2 iPhone, get the same prompt and the same non-function.
This issue only occurs with certain 4 digit numbers. Below is a comparison "Chart."

Loco Address??? Digitrax Throttle??? JMRI Throttle (computer)??? WiThrottle
6005??? ??? ??? ??? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? OK
6035??? ??? ??? ??? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? NO
6051 ?? ??? ??? ??? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? OK
7614??? ??? ??? ??? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? NO
3??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???? OK??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ? OK
See images below:

An additional issue is I can't get JMRI ProgramPro Throttle (on my computer) to run locomotives.
The Digitrax throttle runs everything fine.?
?
Any ideas?
THANKS in advance for the help.
Robert Diepenbrock

On 7/24/18 11:05 AM, Spuds McCat wrote:

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4.10 has some loconet slot 'issues', upgrade to 4.12 which came out last week.?

How is the computer/Jmri connected to the 240?

The LW?I is independant from JMRI, a phone connected to it wont show in JMRI

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 19:48 <classicautoportraits@...> wrote:

Dear JMRI Users,

I just joined the group and this is my first post. To all you WiThrottle-JMRI-Mac "gurus,"

I recently converted my N Scale layout from DC to DCC. I installed a Digitrax DSC240 Advance Command Station with Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface.
I downloaded JMRI Panel Pro and Decoder Pro 4.10 Software and installed it on my MacBook Pro running OSX 10.10.2 Yosemite
I purchased, downloaded and installed WiThrottle on my iPad.
The Digitrax DSC240 Advance Command Station is connected to an isolated programming track per the manual. The WiThrottle is connected via the Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface.

I'm having two issues:
1. I cannot program any locomotives on the isolated programming track.
The JMRI Decoder Pro software is giving me the prompt: "Programmer error. Programmer busy (302)" (See JPEG image below)
The WiThrottle JMRI webpage states:
302 — programmer busyThe command station has reported that it's busy doing something else, and can't do any programming right now.This usually means that some other part of the DCC system is doing a programming operation, e.g. a hand-held throttle.Some DCC systems can't do ops-mode programming (programming on the main) while also using the service mode programming track, in which case they'll return this error message.
I'm not doing any programming anywhere else on the layout.______________________

2. The WiThrottle will not allow me to change addresses.After entering address the address is displayed in "Recents." Once I've programmed an address, in this case 6035, when I try to enter the address a second time I get the prompt: "Loco 6035(L) In-Use Would you like to acquire this address?" When I click the YES button nothing happens, even with repeated pressing. When I click the NO button the window disappears, but the cycle repeats and remains NOT SET. I tried to delete the Roster addresses, It's like the WiThrottle gets "stuck."I also get the prompt "Unable to load JMRI WebServer page." It appears that the WiThrottle is not "seeing" the the server" (my MacBook Pro).See JPEG graphic below.

The PanelPro appears to "see" the WiThrottle in the "Advertising WiThrottle" window, but no device is showing the the Device Name window. The DecoderPro doesn't "see" the WiThrottle in the "Advertising WiThrottle" window, and no device is showing the the Device Name window. See JPEG graphics in photo section under WiThrottle and JMRI Questions.
I suspect these issues may be connected and may have to do with the drivers.

PLEASE ADVISE,Regards,Robert Diepenbrock

Re: WiThrottle and JMRI Questions

#149828

4.10 has some loconet slot 'issues', upgrade to 4.12 which came out last week.?

How is the computer/Jmri connected to the 240?

The LW?I is independant from JMRI, a phone connected to it wont show in JMRI

Show quoted text

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018, 19:48 <classicautoportraits@...> wrote:

Dear JMRI Users,

I just joined the group and this is my first post. To all you WiThrottle-JMRI-Mac "gurus,"

I recently converted my N Scale layout from DC to DCC. I installed a Digitrax DSC240 Advance Command Station with Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface.
I downloaded JMRI Panel Pro and Decoder Pro 4.10 Software and installed it on my MacBook Pro running OSX 10.10.2 Yosemite
I purchased, downloaded and installed WiThrottle on my iPad.
The Digitrax DSC240 Advance Command Station is connected to an isolated programming track per the manual. The WiThrottle is connected via the Digitrax LNWI Loconet Wifi Interface.

I'm having two issues:
1. I cannot program any locomotives on the isolated programming track.
The JMRI Decoder Pro software is giving me the prompt: "Programmer error. Programmer busy (302)" (See JPEG image below)
The WiThrottle JMRI webpage states:
302 — programmer busyThe command station has reported that it's busy doing something else, and can't do any programming right now.This usually means that some other part of the DCC system is doing a programming operation, e.g. a hand-held throttle.Some DCC systems can't do ops-mode programming (programming on the main) while also using the service mode programming track, in which case they'll return this error message.
I'm not doing any programming anywhere else on the layout.______________________

2. The WiThrottle will not allow me to change addresses.After entering address the address is displayed in "Recents." Once I've programmed an address, in this case 6035, when I try to enter the address a second time I get the prompt: "Loco 6035(L) In-Use Would you like to acquire this address?" When I click the YES button nothing happens, even with repeated pressing. When I click the NO button the window disappears, but the cycle repeats and remains NOT SET. I tried to delete the Roster addresses, It's like the WiThrottle gets "stuck."I also get the prompt "Unable to load JMRI WebServer page." It appears that the WiThrottle is not "seeing" the the server" (my MacBook Pro).See JPEG graphic below.

The PanelPro appears to "see" the WiThrottle in the "Advertising WiThrottle" window, but no device is showing the the Device Name window. The DecoderPro doesn't "see" the WiThrottle in the "Advertising WiThrottle" window, and no device is showing the the Device Name window. See JPEG graphics in photo section under WiThrottle and JMRI Questions.
I suspect these issues may be connected and may have to do with the drivers.

PLEASE ADVISE,Regards,Robert Diepenbrock

"OutOfMemoryError" while trying to load PanelPro file - Help!

#149827

I can't load my panel file. ?When I ?choose the panel file to load nothing more happens, PanelPro is locked up and I have to force quit the application. Problem began this morning. ?Have been working in PanelPro for the last several weeks with no problems. Sometimes I get this message:?

2018-07-24 12:42:47,299 configurexml.ErrorHandler ? ? ? ? ? ? ERROR - Unexpected error (Throwable) while in load(/Users/nickbrownsberger/Documents/TRAINS/My_JMRI_Railroad/Layout%20Panel%20v397%20speeds.xml) in adaptor of type jmri.jmrix.internal.configurexml.InternalTurnoutManagerXml Exception: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: GC overhead limit exceeded

The memory log and my latest Panel file will shortly be in ProblemsBeingWorkedOn>Nick Brownsberger.

PanelPro version 4.12+Rb6a9bb1 starts under Java 1.8.0_171 on Mac OS X x86_64 v10.11.6

I've tried rebooting my IMac, going back to JMRI version 4.11.8 from 4.12, loading panel files I saved from two weeks ago that don't have any of my recent changes and additions, all to no avail.

Need some help! Please.

Nick

Re: Newbie control panel file question

#149826

Dave, thank you for your help! I was able to find and save a couple of panels. But, I'm still having problems. Even when I've just created a panel and saved it, if I open it, I get messages that there are errors. I'm on a Windows 8.1 machine with PanelPro 4.1 and Java 1.8.0_171.

I can't seem to place any symbols. I started with a right hand turnout. Selected closed position. At no time did the place button darken, it is grayed out. Not sure whether I need to enter something in the identifier fields for system and layout(?) But, I'm getting the error messages even with a brand new panel. So, what's causing the error messages? Could it be that the editor will only work on the computer that's connected to the railroad? I had hoped to do the panel layouts and such on my best machine, then copy then them to the one controlling the layout. Maybe it's giving errors because the defined EasyDCC connection isn't there on this machine?

I was able to place a couple of turnout symbols last week, before I sent my first message. But, I never could open the panel to view them, as I got the same error message over and over.

Is there an explanation somewhere of the basics for getting started; requirements and an initial process flow? I'm becoming very discouraged, tempted to just go back to writing my own...

Don Weigt

Re: Engine Driver Suggestion

#149825

I don't believe those concepts exist on the Proto Throttle either.? Looking at their manual, notching is handled by assigning a speed step to each notch on the throttle.? Idle is speed step 0.? Notch 1 could be speed step 4, notch 2 assigned to speed step 8, and so on.? They recommend setting CV3 and CV4 to fairly high values to simulate momentum of starting and coasting when idling.? One of the images in the Protothrottle manual shows the brake lever assigned to F10.? If I remember correctly F10 is where Loksound assign's the brake.? I think it reduces the amount of momentum programmed into CV4.??

My question is whether or not the protothrottle has memory of locomotive settings that have been set up to operate with it such as the speed step/notching assignments???

Greg McCartney??

On Monday, July 23, 2018, 10:55:05 PM EDT, Peter Akers <Akersp62@...> wrote:

Bob,?
How do you envision that the idle and brakes functions would work??
The brake and idle concepts don't exit in ED so I am trying to understand what the algorithms would need to be. I get the concept of the basic ones, but the combinations are a stretch.?
i.e.
- What happens to the loco speed when it is in idle.
- what happens to the loco speed when the loco is not in idle and the brakes are applied.

Peter?
(Brisbane Australia)?

Re: CATS Prpblems

#149824

Rodney,

Thank you for your direct reply and please pardon what appears to be my impatience. I have tried three times to join the CATS users group in the past with no results or replys. I am not blaming that on you. Perhaps as with all things computer those requests went off in another direction unbeknownst to me or you.? I was planning on going out to KC to attend your clinics, and perhaps meet you, but alas family issues got in the way.

I re-applied to join the CATS Yahoo group yesterday hoping for better results. In the mean time I will look at your suggestions and perhaps achieve an answer to my problem. I do have a screen that comes up when opening designer that shows code with an error. I have taken a screen shot of it. What would be the best way to pass it along for review ?

I appreciate the long hours that go into creating a program such as CATS. Thanks for your efforts.

I look forward to successfully getting it up and running on my railroad

Respectfully,

Jeff Zeleny

On Monday, July 23, 2018, 11:18:19 PM EDT, rodneyblack2000 via Groups.Io <rodneyblack2000@...> wrote:

Jeff.

May I suggest that a little patience will get you a better result?

The E-mails in which I saw your request to join the CATS-users group and to the web site were both time stamped June 23 - the same as when you posted to the JMRI user group (see below).? Furthermore, CATS is by far not my full time job (I make nothing off of it) and I have been traveling since last Wednesday with limited E-mail access.

1. This sounds like you installed on a version of Windows - 7, 8. or 10.? It also sounds like the Windows security scheme is blocking you from writing into the folder where you installed designer.? The simple solution is save your file somewhere else - say in My Documents or a sub-folder within.? A solution that reduces the file structure navigation every time that you want to access CATS files would be to re-install CATS differently.? I don't know why you are getting file blocking issues.? It could be the user account you used when installing CATS.?? I could be by noy checking the "allow all users" box in installing CATS.? It could be where you installed CATS.? It could be the permissions on the folder you installed CATS in (or the folder's parent folder, etc.).? I have seen such a problem on another system and since we were in a hurry, we installed JMRI at C:, rather than C:\Program Files

2. As is periodically mentioned in this group, attachments can be dangerous and are stripped, so we don't know what you are seeing.

Rodney

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

? CATS Prpblems
From: Jeff Zeleny
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 06:59:02 PDT

I am unable to get access to the CATS Yahoo group and my e-mails to the CATS website go un-answered.

A few questions here

1. In designer, wwhen trying to save a design I get the message "File Error? ? Error creating file "

2. When bringing up designer I see the following error - see attacahed screen

Anyone familiar with CATS that can help

Thanks in advance

Jeff Zeleny

Re: Java not working

#149823

Rolf,

? ? ?If you checked your 'Defaults" settings and they are all on Loconet and not Internal, then you problem is else where.

? ? ?You have not stated what OS you are running and you should put your Layout file in our ProblemsBeingWorkedOn folder in the Files Section.

Roger

Re: Engine Driver Suggestion

#149822

Hello Peter:

Regarding question 1,? when the throttle goes to idle it is the same as issuing a speed step 0 command and the momentum functionality takes over.

When the brake level is applied, the value in CV61 is used to accelerate the end of the momentum feature.?? For Soundtraxx Tsunami decoders there are multiple CVs that work in conjunction to simulate braking:
????? CV4 - Baseline braking rate?? (emulating momentum of the moving mass of a train when the throttle is at idle)
????? CV61 - F11 Braking rate when the F11 button is pressed. The throttle is set to 0, forcing the decoder to decelerate to a stop eventually.? This value is a subtraction or addition offset to CV4 depending on the sign of the value is CV61.

Econami decoders use CV4 and CV117? (see excellent article at .?? For whatever reason Econami and Tsunami use different CVs for the F11 brake rate offset.?? Go figure.

I hope I got this right, my apologies in advance if something is amiss.?? I did do my research.

Re: Engine Driver Suggestion

#149821

I believe this thread is using the PT to mean ProtoThrottle. But nobody has
confirmed that's what they were meaning.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
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Re: Engine Driver Suggestion

#149820

This is similar to a challenge that I laid down in the old Yahoo group, shortly before the transition.
Basically I asked for a skin to engineDriver that replicated the PT. ...

Why would you want to do switching operations on a Programming track ???

Sometimes it is better to spell out an abbreviation or TLA at least once to get a message context for others.

Re: CATS Prpblems

#149819

Jeff.

May I suggest that a little patience will get you a better result?

The E-mails in which I saw your request to join the CATS-users group and to the web site were both time stamped June 23 - the same as when you posted to the JMRI user group (see below).? Furthermore, CATS is by far not my full time job (I make nothing off of it) and I have been traveling since last Wednesday with limited E-mail access.

1. This sounds like you installed on a version of Windows - 7, 8. or 10.? It also sounds like the Windows security scheme is blocking you from writing into the folder where you installed designer.? The simple solution is save your file somewhere else - say in My Documents or a sub-folder within.? A solution that reduces the file structure navigation every time that you want to access CATS files would be to re-install CATS differently.? I don't know why you are getting file blocking issues.? It could be the user account you used when installing CATS.?? I could be by noy checking the "allow all users" box in installing CATS.? It could be where you installed CATS.? It could be the permissions on the folder you installed CATS in (or the folder's parent folder, etc.).? I have seen such a problem on another system and since we were in a hurry, we installed JMRI at C:, rather than C:\Program Files

2. As is periodically mentioned in this group, attachments can be dangerous and are stripped, so we don't know what you are seeing.

Rodney

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? CATS Prpblems
From: Jeff Zeleny
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2018 06:59:02 PDT

I am unable to get access to the CATS Yahoo group and my e-mails to the CATS website go un-answered.

A few questions here

1. In designer, wwhen trying to save a design I get the message "File Error? ? Error creating file "

2. When bringing up designer I see the following error - see attacahed screen

Anyone familiar with CATS that can help

Thanks in advance

Jeff Zeleny