I struggled with this on a raspberry pi.? I think the roster peport is a .png file which is a postscript file.? The printed report is not very flexible at all,,,i believe.? I use a screen capture on the pi, as a jpg, then ftp it to my network pc where there is a printer and print off the screen captures.? Much easier than trying to engineer the whole process.? Of course I am capturing decoder pro screens. bob
Can the list be exported as a CSV file? You can then import it into Excel and format how you want before printing.
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Thanks Morgan,
You are right, i can take a screen shot.
I¡¯d love to see a modification to JMRI where I can get the program to print a list or a summary in the same order as i show and/or save within the program itself. Since the program saves itself in the order I have selected, it seems to
me (as a non-programmer) getting it to print in the selected order should be a pretty easy fix for a future program update.
Phil
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A solution I use when all else fails. And it requires Windows 10. Is to use the snipping tool. It will capture only what's on your screen. But you can enlarge the screen to full size and that does grab a pretty good size image. From snipping
tool, you can print and/or save. I use it a lot, for short term. Example: print a coupon without saving. Another example is when you want to save It" as jpg. And if necessary, convert it from jpg to pdf or doc. etc.
Morgan Bilbo, PRR fan
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Fraser,
I only use Full Interlocking. As far as I know, Turnouts and Signals is like full interlocking without the block allocation.
I have not had any issues with signaling when a route has been allocated. I assume you have the signal masts placed at block boundaries and that the signal mast logic is defined and functions properly when NX is not defined.
I can take a look at the configuration if you upload a zip file that contains the panel xml file and custom signal configuration. An easy way to create the zip file is to open PanelPro, use Help >> Locations and select Open Profile Location. That will open the OS file manager at the profile directory. Zip the directory and upload it.
Dave Sand
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I have been looking at setting up NX routes on my Layout Editor panel and see that there are three options:Turnouts only, Turnouts & Signal Masts and Full Interlock.
Turnouts only I quite understand but as I have my signalling set up with Signal Mast Logic then I see no difference between Turnouts only and Turnouts & Signals. Should there be a difference?
If I use Full Interlock the route sets, the track blocks that the route will follow go purple but all the signals along the route go to Danger and that looks very odd. As this is still a theoretical layout, I have a script that activates and deactivates the sensors in turn along the route to simulate the passage of a train and that clears the route correctly behind and all the correct signal aspects show behind the "train" so I'm quite happy with that. What is puzzling me here is how can a train proceed along the route against Danger signals? Am I missing something here? I'm using 4.14 and a modded version of BR2003 for my signalling.
Thanks
Fraser
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Re: DS51K1 turnout decoder - detection
Hi Peter, he was asking how to input the switches into JMRI.
He said he tried but could not get them to "stick".
I felt that was a good start for him.
Jay
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Hi
I have been looking at setting up NX routes on my Layout Editor panel and see that there are three options:Turnouts only, Turnouts & Signal Masts and Full Interlock.
Turnouts only I quite understand but as I have my signalling set up with Signal Mast Logic then I see no difference between Turnouts only and Turnouts & Signals. Should there be a difference?
If I use Full Interlock the route sets, the track blocks that the route will follow go purple but all the signals along the route go to Danger and that looks very odd. As this is still a theoretical layout, I have a script that activates and deactivates the sensors in turn along the route to simulate the passage of a train and that clears the route correctly behind and all the correct signal aspects show behind the "train" so I'm quite happy with that. What is puzzling me here is how can a train proceed along the route against Danger signals? Am I missing something here? I'm using 4.14 and a modded version of BR2003 for my signalling.
Thanks
Fraser
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Can the list be exported as a CSV file? You can then import it into Excel and format how you want before printing.
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On Behalf Of Philip K. Works
Sent: 26 May 2019 21:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Locomotive roster
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Thanks Morgan,
You are right, i can take a screen shot.
I¡¯d love to see a modification to JMRI where I can get the program to print a list or a summary in the same order as i show and/or save within the program itself. Since the program saves itself in the order I have selected, it seems to
me (as a non-programmer) getting it to print in the selected order should be a pretty easy fix for a future program update.
Phil
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A solution I use when all else fails. And it requires Windows 10. Is to use the snipping tool. It will capture only what's on your screen. But you can enlarge the screen to full size and that does grab a pretty good size image. From snipping
tool, you can print and/or save. I use it a lot, for short term. Example: print a coupon without saving. Another example is when you want to save It" as jpg. And if necessary, convert it from jpg to pdf or doc. etc.
Morgan Bilbo, PRR fan
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Re: DS51K1 turnout decoder - detection
Rizwan, On 27 May 2019, at 5:15 AM, rizimine@... wrote:
3. I am still confused by your statement about adding switches. Do switches have hardware addressing? Or they only labeled in JMRI? Either would work for me but I need a way to programmatically control the turnout from my JMRI scripts. - Turnouts have their own separate DCC address range (1-2044). - Signals have their own separate DCC address range (1-2044). - Loco short addresses are a separate DCC address range (1-127). - Loco long addresses are a separate DCC address range (0-10239). The DCC packets for each of the above are different and there is no confusion about which one a decoder should respond to, it will only respond to one type. The ranges above are defined in the NMRA Standards, but most DCC command stations do not implement sending the full range of loco addresses: <> Dave in Australia
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On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 03:25 PM, Jay wrote:
Hi,
Here is the JMRI instructions.
Jay
Those have nothing to do with programming the decoder -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association -
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Hi,
Here is the JMRI instructions.
Jay
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Thanks Morgan,
You are right, i can take a screen shot.
I¡¯d love to see a modification to JMRI where I can get the program to print a list or a summary in the same order as i show and/or save within the program itself. Since the program saves itself in the order I have selected, it seems to me (as a non-programmer) getting it to print in the selected order should be a pretty easy fix for a future program update.
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A solution I use when all else fails. And it requires Windows 10. Is to use the snipping tool. It will capture only what's on your screen. But you can enlarge the screen to full size and that does grab a pretty good size image. From snipping tool, you can print and/or save. I use it a lot, for short term. Example: print a coupon without saving. Another example is when you want to save It" as jpg. And if necessary, convert it from jpg to pdf or doc. etc.
Morgan Bilbo, PRR fan
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A solution I use when all else fails. And it requires Windows 10. Is to use the snipping tool. It will capture only what's on your screen. But you can enlarge the screen to full size and that does grab a pretty good size image. From snipping tool, you can print and/or save. I use it a lot, for short term. Example: print a coupon without saving. Another example is when you want to save It" as jpg. And if necessary, convert it from jpg to pdf or doc. etc.
Morgan Bilbo, PRR fan
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Re: DS51K1 turnout decoder - detection
Jay,
Thanks for trying to help.
1. Power off - I did have power-off when I tried to add the Yellow wire before. It didn't work. But based on what you are saying, DS51K1 would never have responded to CV programming anyway.?
2. I am trying to find an option to add switches or even a table/panel called "Switches" in PanelPro but I am unable to do so. Can you point me to the documentation for this?
3. I am still confused by your statement about adding switches. Do switches have hardware addressing? Or they only labeled in JMRI? Either would work for me but I need a way to programmatically control the turnout from my JMRI scripts.?
Thanks again,
Rizwan?
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OK,
Did you hook the yellow wire up with the power off?
Did it work?
Was power removed after programming?
It is suggested that a throttle be used for programming.
Direct CV programming will not work with the DS51K1, it is a basic switch controller.
You will have to define the switches in Panel Pro, Make sure you save the panel.
I generally just define the number of the switches on my layout all at one time.
There is a click button when you add switches, it is a define a sequential number of switches.
So, if you have 20 switches, you would put in 19 to give you 20.
Leave panel Pro open, find Load Panel. This will be the file you saved.
Go back to JMRI and follow these steps:
Making sure the track power is off, hook up the yellow wire.
Turn on track power, using the switch function in JMRI, send?a switch command for that switch.
Turn track power off, remove the yellow wire.
Turn track power on & test.
It would be that easy.
Jay
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@Trevora
Thanks for the follow-up. I tried that option but it doesn't work.
Here's what I've done so far:
1. Followed??to do the wiring of the decoder inside my Kato turnout. The wiring is correct as per both the decoder instruction booklet and the forum page above.
2. Connected the turnout back on the track. Check that power works by running a loco on both sides of the turnout (manual control)
3. Took the yellow wire from the decode (that was left hanging out of the turnout) and connected it to the rail on which the black wire of the decoder ('curved outer rail') is connected to.
4. I've tried to open PanelPro and DecoderPro to try to use "Turnout Control" as you had mentioned and set an address and try to see if it can be Thrown or Closed. It doesn't work.?
5. I've also tried to see if I can set up CV01 directly but it doesn't help (it says 'No Loco found'). I have tried to set up DS64 which is a quad controller from Digitrax assuming that it is the closest to DS51K1 in the default decoder options that DecoderPro supports but it doesn't help either.?
It seems like I am missing a basic piece of information - how to program a hardware address into the decoder from PanelPro or DecoderPro
If someone has information on how to do this, it would be great.
Thanks!
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Re: DS51K1 turnout decoder - detection
I use a Lenz system so only as i read it
I think jmri
shows you put the number you chose in the box and throw the point
with the yellow wire connected
then disconect it and try if it throws you are done
just guessing but give it a go
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Thanks for the response. I read the instructions and connected the yellow wire to the rail where the black wire is connected. But then what? What am I supposed to do with JMRI to code a hardware address? I have never used a traditional DCC and I am at a loss at how to use DecoderPro to set up a hardware address.?
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from digitrax site programming
KB783: DS51K1 Stationary Address Programming
This article was last updated on May 24, 2011, 8:18 p.m. | Print Article |
This procedure is best done after installation of the decoder to the turnout.? The process is "blind", so it is easier to program this decoder after installation because you can then test the operation of the turnout with its new address.? The DS51K1 can be installed into the base of the turnout or attached to the bottom of the layout near the turnout.
1. Turn off track power and temporarily connect the yellow programming wire from the DS51K1 to the same rail as the black wire.
2. Turn on track power.
3. Using your throttle, select the address you want to program into the DS51K1 and press either c (closed) or t (thrown) to operate the turnout and program the address.
4. Disconnect the yellow programming wire from the track and fold it away so that it can¡¯t make contact with the track.
DS51K1 Caution:
DS51K1 is designed for SINGLE turnout machine control only. Use of multiple turnout machines with this decoder will cause damage to the decoder.? If you want to control more than one turnout, such as in a crossover situation, use additional DS51K1s and program them to the same address
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you have to put a number in in progarm mode? (yellow wire)
see
http://www.digitrax.com/tsd/KB784/ds51k1-stationary-decoder-installation/
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I have just started my first track (not even weeks old - I am still very new to this hobby).?
Here's my setup.
Kato N-scale
Pi-SPROG DCC (Raspberry Pi3 running JMRI connected to a SPROG DCC that is wired to the track)
Kato locomotive with decoder
Kato #4 turnouts (2) with DS51K1 decoder
The locomotive was detected without any problems. That said, the hobby store guy programmed the hardware address and told me the address to use. I cannot recall if JMRI auto-detected the hardware address or if I had to input it but it works. I can control the locomotive fine.
I installed DS51K1 decoders in my turnouts and put them back on track. I am trying to access them from DecoderPro/PanelPro but failing to. So, here are my questions:
1. Does JMRI automatically detect turnout controllers like DS51K1? I have wired them inside the turnout directly and connected them back to the track.?
2. If it cannot, how do I know the hardware address to see if I can input into the system?
3. If either of them will not work, am I missing some other component between the DS51K1 and the Pi-SPROG that is supposed to make this detectable?
Thanks in advance. I did a search and found some old posts on DS51K1 decoders but none of them explained how they got the hardware address to control.?
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Re: Usage of JMRI without computer controlled switches
Depends what your aims may be.
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If you want, as a human, to select the loco, set its speed, alter its speed, change functions in a loco (lights, sounds), etc.? through a computer, then yes
this works.?
You can control many locos at the same time this way ¨C the limit is probably the human¡¯s ability to use the mouse (etc..) to change things for many locos, rather
than the computer.?
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If you want the computer to make decision (eg. stop at signals, send a train on a particular route, etc..), then you¡¯ll need a means for the computer to ¡°know¡±
where the trains are located.? That needs hardware in the layout of some type or another to report on a train passing a particular spot (etc..).?
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In terms of JMRI support, your Fleischmann Twin Centre is a slightly modified Uhlenbrock Intellibox I? (to distinguish from the newer Intellibox II ).??? So,
the JMRI advice for the Intellibox I is where you should start for seeking details.?? Your first requirement will be a means to connect a serial cable from the TwinCentre to your computer; you will probably need a USB-to-serial adaptor from a computer parts
retailer.? ??
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of dennisramaekers@...
Sent: 25 May 2019 18:26
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Subject: [jmriusers] Usage of JMRI without computer controlled switches
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Hi,
I am not just new to computer controlling modeltrains, I¡¯ve only beenin the modeltrainworld for about 3 months.
I am building my H0 track with switches that are not computercontrolled, but they are switched electrically. I do this because I can use my track both analog and digital that way (not at the same time ofcourse).
Can I use JMRI simply to run my trains speed and lights and stuff, while still doing the switches manually?
For now I don¡¯t want to completely make everything digital but it would be nice to control just the trains via computer.
Greets,
Dennis
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I am running Decoder Pro, JMRI 4.14 + Rd060e0b, Java 1.8.0_191 on a MacBook running macOS Mojave 10.14.5.
I would like to print a roster in road# or DCC address# order (ascending order). I can reorder on the computer screen, however when I try to print the roster it won¡¯t print in that order, it seems to select it¡¯s own.
How can I have it print the same as the screen?
Thanks,
Phil
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