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Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

John,

The JMRI directory under the user account is what needs to move. At least
almost all the time. If you had customized anything in the \Program
Files\JMRI, then we'd need to correct that stuff too. But that is very
seldom somebody put something in there.

There is a correct way to have files that override the installed files, but
we'll first figure out if that's what is needed later.

So clear out the old JMRI install and parts. So do the program uninstall,
then make sure \Program Files (x86)\JMRI is gone. Then make sure
\users\your_user_name\JMRI is gone.

Do the install of JMRI 4.12. Then copy the \Documents and
Settings\your_user_name\JMRI to the \users\your_user_name\JMRI on this new
box. Make sure you don't end up with the wrong levels like
\users\your_user_name\JMRI\JMRI, one JMRI is enough.

Run with it. Report your errors. Likely you should copy/paste the whole
Help->System Console, put in the email and we'll figure it out. After any
corrections there, then we can move to the current version.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

Hi again,

I upgraded to JMRI 4.16, and PanelPro seems to be trying to read the xml file in My_JMRI_Railroad.jmri, but I get a strange error:

"LT1 needed IT followed by a suffix". Any idea what this means?

-John ?


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

OK, I loaded JMRI 4.16 onto the laptop. I notice that the User/John folder still contains JMRI files, including My_JMRI_Railroad - from the old PC. Should this be enough to do the trick? Or are these now redundant?

-John


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

Hi Peter,

Because I have copied over stuff from the PC to the laptop, I now have too many JMRI "profile" files, so I'll follow your advice and uninstall JMRI and re-install a clean copy of 4.12. Can you tell me which folders or files I need to copy and where exactly they should now go. I know that the URLs have changed -- easy to correct -- but I have read here that some filenames have also changed.

All I need in Panelpro are the panel itself and the turnouts with their links to the decoders. Thanks.

- John (in a different time-zone)


Locked Re: Question re deprecated command

 

Does the ¡°reporterManagerInstance¡± reference appear in your modified script? If you can show us the lines right around that, we can sort out what to do.

Bob

On Oct 27, 2019, at 8:11 PM, ahouse3761 <trainmail1@...> wrote:

I have a script that is a modification of the ReporterFormatter.py script and have started getting a warning in the console to the effect that:

'reporterManagerInstance is deprecateed, please remove references to it [main]

What do I need to do to fix this?

Thanks,

Allen
Mtn RR
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...


Locked Question re deprecated command

 

I have a script that is a modification of the ReporterFormatter.py script and have started getting a warning in the console to the effect that:

'reporterManagerInstance is deprecateed, please remove references to it [main]

What do I need to do to fix this?

Thanks,

Allen
Mtn RR


Locked Re: programing on MRC system error message programer in use

 

Ken,?

From the System Console log he provided on? 10/20 and then again on 10/21

2019-10-20 15:19:41,761 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.17.4+Rbf0d1af starts under Java 1.8.0_221 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Sun Oct 20 15:19:41 CST 2019 [main]

So he tried this and hits the "In Use" message.? He has now returned to 4.12 and it all works. ?

In a similar MRC related thread, Bob J did some corrections in 4.17.5? and that is why I suggested he install the 4.17.5 Jenkins build to see if it helps him.
For some reason he is reluctant or incapable of installing Jenkins 4.17.5. ?

If he waits for 4.18, it may resolve the issue. Then again it may not.

Marc


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

Hi Peter -- yes, I have loaded a new version of JMRI onto the Laptop. I find it a bit difficult to see which configuration files are used, as there seem to several ones in different JMRI files... I don't know wich old version is running on the old PC, but it was loaded several years ago!

As Ken said, " A really old file would have the old path, like C:\Documents and Settings\username\JMRI..." wich is the case for the old PC.

The question is: should I set up the decoders again, or can I use the existing preferences/profile files with the new version of JMRI?

-John


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

What version of JMRI are you running on your old computer?
What version of JMRI did you install on the new computer?

From the 4.16 release notes:
If you are currently using JMRI 4.11.9 or earlier, we strongly recommend that you update to JMRI 4.12 and make sure that's running OK before updating to this release. Once you have JMRI 4.12 running OK, store your configuration and panel files and use those from then on. There have been a number of changes in serial port support, panel file format and configuration options since those earlier releases, and moving to the stable JMRI 4.12 release is a good way to work through any possible problems.

--
Peter Ulvestad

JMRI Users Group Moderator - ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator - ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator - ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association -


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

John,

With Digitrax, JMRI will ask and learn about sensors and turnouts without a
panel file to give meaningful names to them. So if you are seeing the LT123
but no descriptive name, that's the system name only and it learned it from
the LocoNet.

Go to Edit->Preferences->Startup, there you may pick to load a file during
the startup sequence.

Now it depends on how old the old system was. Anything in the last couple of
years was using localized names for the paths. So that should have followed
ok. A really old file would have the old path, like C:\Documents and
Settings\username\JMRI... Anything newer would have something with
preferences: or other with the colon to use known paths instead.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

Thanks Bob. Sounds as though I should link up the decoders with Loconet! :-( But I'll check the Start Up preferences first...


Locked Re: Setting up signals in JMRI to MERG CBUS #merg

 

Thanks for your reply Dave.
I am concentrating on one route at a time to build things up and get the feel of it.
Regarding sensors, I arranged the test bed such that I can simulate occupancy with the use of toggle switches. I thought I had better check back with you before I start making any further changes - I am glad I did!
I shall finish of the Down Main Blocks controlled by SD7 first and test it. I shall use the toggle switches instead of activating the sensors. Then I shall move back to the other two Down Main Blocks.
Best wishes
Peter


Locked Re: Setting up signals in JMRI to MERG CBUS #merg

 

Peter,

It appears that you have at least a partial implementation of block detection. ?As a train moves from left to right on the down main (with turnout P1a closed), "Down Main Block T7", "Down Main South Junction" and "Down Main Platform 1" should show active (red) on the panel.

The Logix for SD1 uses the sensor for Down Main Block T7 to set the appropriate aspect.

The signal mast logic for SD South Gantry currently only uses the P1a turnout position to show access to platform 1. ?If the other two blocks are added to the block list, then signal mast logic will automatically set the appropriate aspect.

I added the "Block T7 Dn Main Entry" sensor to the panel so that I can set the sensor since I don't have any hardware.

Dave Sand



----- Original message -----
From: "peter.s.drury via Groups.Io" <peter.s.drury@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Setting up signals in JMRI to MERG CBUS
Date: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:11 AM

Hi Dave
I have completed Block Portion for SD8 South Gantry and added two more Sensor icons (South Junction and (Platform 1).
I am concentrating on the SD7 Path along the Down Main.
My thoughts are that the South Junction sensor, when 'active', should set SD7 Aspect to red and the sensor T7 Down Main Entry to 'inactive'. This will ensure that SD1 aspect remains red and locked.
When the Platform 1 Sensor becomes 'active', These conditions should remain to protect the train on the Platform 1 block until the train passes the Platform 1 Starter when both the Down South Junction? sensor and the Platform 1 sensors become 'inactive'.
Alternatively, I could set up a delay when Platform 1 sensor becomes 'active' to allow enough time for the train to clear South Junction before its sensor becomes 'inactive'.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks
Peter


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

Thanks Ken. What is odd is that it DID get the turnout names, but not the descriptive names. How do I add it the xml file to the startup options? This is news to me! :-(

I also noted that the xml file referred to the wrong file structure, (XP version instead of Win 7) but editing it with Notepad didn't seem to help.

- John.


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

John,

It sounds like you didn't move a panel file that contained those user names
for the turnouts. Or you moved it but didn't add the file to the startup
options so it got loaded at startup.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

It sounds like PanelPro isn¡¯t loading your configuration information properly.

That¡¯s a bit confusing, because it¡¯s getting the turnout numbers OK: LocoNet-attached turnout decoders (liks a DS64) can tell JMRI about themselves, but ones only attached to the track can¡¯t.

Do you have your PanelPro Preferences set to read a panel file? That would be an entry under the Start Up pane in the Preferences.

As to not switching properly: First, check that the LocoNet connection is working. Select the LocoNet Stats item from the LocoNet menu, and see if that window opens and shows some status numbers. If not, JMRI isn¡¯t talking to the PR3 properly, so we can help you sort that out.

Bob

On Oct 27, 2019, at 6:54 AM, John Cornell <dr.jc.cornell@...> wrote:

I have PanelPro running on an old PC with Windows XP and an MS100 connector to my DCS51 Zephyr controller. To operate my turnouts I just click the mouse on the turnout in the displayed panel. All works well.

Now I am trying to migrate the system to a laptop running Windows 7, and for the laptop I have to use a PR3 USB decoder/programmer. I set up a new version of JMRI on the laptop and I have copied all the JMRI files I can find from the Programs folder and the User Applications folder, but it still doesn't work. My "turnout table"in Panelpro lists the turnouts correctly, but not their descriptions (e.g. "Siding no. 1") and while the panel shows the turnouts switching when using the mouse, the actual turnouts are not switched.

Am I missing some data file somewhere, or do I have to set up my 40 turnouts (i.e. 10 decoders) all over again to get them working? (Note that I only use Loconet to connect the computer to the DCS51, but all my decoders are linked via the track.)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
--
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...


Locked Re: Setting up signals in JMRI to MERG CBUS #merg

 

Hi Dave
I have completed Block Portion for SD8 South Gantry and added two more Sensor icons (South Junction and (Platform 1).
I am concentrating on the SD7 Path along the Down Main.
My thoughts are that the South Junction sensor, when 'active', should set SD7 Aspect to red and the sensor T7 Down Main Entry to 'inactive'. This will ensure that SD1 aspect remains red and locked.
When the Platform 1 Sensor becomes 'active', These conditions should remain to protect the train on the Platform 1 block until the train passes the Platform 1 Starter when both the Down South Junction? sensor and the Platform 1 sensors become 'inactive'.
Alternatively, I could set up a delay when Platform 1 sensor becomes 'active' to allow enough time for the train to clear South Junction before its sensor becomes 'inactive'.
Your thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks
Peter


Locked Problem migrating Panelpro from Windows XP with MS100 to a laptop with PR3 connection

 

I have PanelPro running on an old PC with Windows XP and an MS100 connector to my DCS51 Zephyr controller. To operate my turnouts I just click the mouse on the turnout in the displayed panel. All works well.

Now I am trying to migrate the system to a laptop running Windows 7, and for the laptop I have to use a PR3 USB decoder/programmer. I set up a new version of JMRI on the laptop and I have copied all the JMRI files I can find from the Programs folder and the User Applications folder, but it still doesn't work. My "turnout table"in Panelpro lists the turnouts correctly, but not their descriptions (e.g. "Siding no. 1") and while the panel shows the turnouts switching when using the mouse, the actual turnouts are not switched.

Am I missing some data file somewhere, or do I have to set up my 40 turnouts (i.e. 10 decoders) all over again to get them working? (Note that I only use Loconet to connect the computer to the DCS51, but all my decoders are linked via the track.)

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


Locked Re: Using NCE Powercab and Megapoints

 

Nigel, just had a look and a fiddle and the servos are now working correctly. Thanks for your advice


Locked Re: programing on MRC system error message programer in use

 

Carrs,

The other comment I'd make is that baud rate setting issues in 4.16 could be
the problem you saw there. Using 4.17.4 would be a good choice for trying
'current' JMRI developments. It fixed the baud rate issues that plagued many
users of 4.16.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.org
www.syracusemodelrr.org