On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 03:43 AM, miktrain wrote:

Blair wrote,
"I thought that up to eight sockets could be used to plug the readers into. Then the seven wires from each reader can be easily routed to where they need to be. The question is, where do they need to be with three different boards!

I felt the easiest thing would be to have an on board Nano socket to directly plug a Nano into. If you want Ethernet, than that could plug in with the Nano. Would you need an Uno as the Nano can do what the Uno can? So that just leaves the Mega. So I thought a row of breakout screw terminals could be present to allow wired connection to a Mega, or indeed an Uno if you really?wanted."

Let me say first up I have never used any Arduino/Pi etc so don't know how the onboard jumpers are positioned or wired but am interested and have been following this thread.

The best way to do a one fits all board is to use jumpers.
Design the board as an input section, your sockets etc. and a working section to plug in the Arduino XXX The traces from the input that need adjustment should all end in a solder pad and so too the inputs to the controller, these pads should be placed near to each other.
Short wire links can be placed by the user to suit whichever controller is to be used.

Tony

Hi Tony,

Good to hear from you. BTW, it was actually me that wrote that and not Blair. Anyway thanks for your very useful input there. Having a think about a possible configuration, I also came to the conclusion that some jumpers were going to be needed. I was thinking of the little jumper plugs that plug into headers rather than solder pads. My reason was so that anyone wanting to reconfigure a board just had to move a few jumpers rather than get the soldering iron out! What would your preference be?

Steve

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Going by the picture you submitted on another thread, it is a dcc no sound decoder. It is probably an E-Z decoder by what JMRI returns. The highlited decoders are what you have, they all have the same programming, you just pick 1 of them and that is what you will have in your roster when you save it. Now, the next step is to program it. Each page (the tabs at the top) lets you pick whatever you are doing. There are very few pages to consider doing. When you do the address page, put the road number in, and everything else should read correctly.? data. Now hit save.
Now remove the loco from the program track and put it on a regular tack powered up and it should respond.
Dave Hastings

Egads. I said "Duncan" and now I don't know if it was Mick? My point was not to anger anyone. Just to say how much I appreciate JMRI volunteers.
Morgan Bilbo, Digitrax DCS50, UT4d, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 5.0, Model PRR 1952.

Duncan: I think you need to rephrase your comment. How long does it take for a volunteer to gather the correct data to add a new decoder to JMRI? You make it sound like "the wonderful people" are too slow. Your statement "seen fit to add" is not very nice!
I think we owe a great deal of thanks to all those who do the work on JMRI. And have the decency to wait until someone has the time and correct data to do the work to add a new decoder.
Patience is a virtue!
Morgan Bilbo, Digitrax DCS50, UT4d, UR93, SPROGIIv4, JMRI 5.0, Model PRR 1952.

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Duncan

Ah, my mistake on diesel vs steam. The correct file is 'xml/decoders/TCS_WOW_steam04.xml’. The reset sections in the files are the same.

JMRI’s CV="T2CV.5.0" default=“8” does exactly what you expect, and what you’re seeing: CV201 = 5 / CV202 = 0 / CV203 = 0 / CV204 = 8

Bob

On Apr 30, 2023, at 10:22 AM, Tim Kelley <tim.kelley@...> wrote:

Bob,
#1.)
We are using TCS Steam WOW-121. Your prior post references diesel.....which is incorrect.
#2.)
I don't know what " <factReset label="User Preset 1" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="8"/> "

T2CV.5.0 is......????

The CORRECT way to do a USER PRESET 1 reset is CV201 = 5 / CV202 = 0 / CV203 = 0 / CV204 = 8
Thanks,
Tim

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Bob,
#1.)
We are using TCS Steam WOW-121. Your prior post references diesel.....which is incorrect.
#2.)
I don't know what " <factReset label="User Preset 1" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="8"/> "

T2CV.5.0 is......????

The CORRECT way to do a USER PRESET 1 reset is CV201 = 5 / CV202 = 0 / CV203 = 0 / CV204 = 8
Thanks,
Tim

The decoder file (xml/decoders/TCS_WOW_Diesel04.xml) has this for its reset definitions:

<resets>
<mode>PAGEMODE</mode>
<mode>DIRECTMODE</mode>
<mode>OPSBYTEMODE</mode>
<factReset label="Entire decoder (except speed table)" CV="8" default="2"/>
<factReset label="Entire decoder (except address and speed table)" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="2"/>
<factReset label="All sound settings" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="3"/>
<factReset label="Sound Function mappings" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="4"/>
<factReset label="Sound CV's" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="6"/>
<factReset label="Sound type volumes" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="7"/>
<factReset label="User Preset 1" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="8"/>
<factReset label="User Preset 2" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="9"/>
<factReset label="User Preset 3" CV="T2CV.5.0" default="10"/>
<factReset label="Quick Lighting Preset: Standard Ditch Lights" CV="8" default="10"/>
<factReset label="Quick Lighting Preset: Standard Trolley" CV="8" default="11"/>
<factReset label="Quick Lighting Preset: Modified Trilley" CV="8" default="12"/>
</resets>

That means it prefers paged mode, if the command station currently has that available (not all do). If you want to try doing the reset in direct mode you can remove the “PAGEMODE” line from the file.

Alternately, as an experiment, you could try sending those CV operations using the “Single CV programmer” which lets you set the mode directly.

Although it’s worthwhile to try these, I don’t expect that changing the programming mode will change the behavior of the decoder. If it’s accepting the writes (which it sounds like it is, as there’s no error indication), the write mode shouldn’t matter.

Bob

On Apr 30, 2023, at 10:07 AM, Tim Kelley <tim.kelley@...> wrote:

Good morning Bob,
I've been through many of those documents. "Reset / Factory Reset / USER PRESET 1" is what TCS calls their "Nuclear Reset". It is my understanding that
if you have NEVER saved to USER PRESET 1, then doing a Reset / Factory Reset / USER PRESET 1 will load the factory default settings which is what I am
trying to accomplish. My question is if I am programming in Direct Byte Mode on the programming track then why is DecoderPro writing the reset sequences in Paged Mode.
That's what I was seeing in LocoNet Monitor. That doesn't seem correct to me.

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Good morning Bob,
I've been through many of those documents. "Reset / Factory Reset / USER PRESET 1" is what TCS calls their "Nuclear Reset". It is my understanding that
if you have NEVER saved to USER PRESET 1, then doing a Reset / Factory Reset / USER PRESET 1 will load the factory default settings which is what I am
trying to accomplish. My question is if I am programming in Direct Byte Mode on the programming track then why is DecoderPro writing the reset sequences in Paged Mode.
That's what I was seeing in LocoNet Monitor. That doesn't seem correct to me.
-Tim

Is this related to the TCS-Users thread at /g/TCS-Users/topic/98477162 ?

It sounds like the decoder isn’t executing the reset, at least not in the way you’re expecting.

The are some documents for the decoder (I think) at

The “Programming Guide” (WOWDiesel Sound Manual V4.pdf) says that reset sequence “Loads Preset #1” . On page 21 that says “you can call up one of 3 User Presets that you may have saved using (Audio Assist). Have you saved one of those for Preset #1?

Bob

On Apr 30, 2023, at 9:44 AM, Tim Kelley <tim.kelley@...> wrote:

Good morning Bob,
I am pretty sure it is TCS Decoder WOW Steam 121 SS4 (Sound Set 4).
-Tim

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Thomas
Just because you have the roster entry created, you are missing the second step of roster creation.
Read all sheets.

WHen you first create a toster entry, the data is filled with default data. This is usually from the Mfg documents on how decoders come from the factory. (or OEM for Loks)
If you buy the decoder new, this is reasonable. IF you buy used (or loksound) the default can be wildly different.
You need to one simple step to fix this, 'Read all sheets". Or open the CV pane and read full sheet.
This populates the roster with the settings actually in the decoder, not some theoretical default.
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Thomas
DeSoto, TX

Good morning Bob,
I am pretty sure it is TCS Decoder?WOW Steam 121 SS4 (Sound Set 4).
-Tim

JMRI has a bunch of WOW 121 models:

WOWDiesel V5 121
WOW Diesel 121 SS2
WOW Diesel 121 SS3
WOW Diesel 121 SS4
WOW Diesel 121 SS4 Prime
WOW Diesel 121 EMD
WOW Sound 121
WOW Steam 121 SS4

Could you say which you’re using please?

Bob

On Apr 30, 2023, at 9:19 AM, Tim Kelley <tim.kelley@...> wrote:

Good morning,
I believe there may be a possible bug in JMRI / DecoderPro when using a TCS WOW-121 Steam Decoder.
I have the latest test release of JMRI running (5.3.5). I have a Digitrax DCS240+ command station and a SoundTraxx PTB-100 Programming track booster.
I have a dedicated programming track with a Broadway Limited Imports HO Steam Locomotive. This locomotive has a TCS B-MB4 motherboard
and a TCS WOW-121 Steam decoder installed in it. So far it seems to be working well. I am on the programming track / LocoNet / Mode = Direct Byte.
I started up a LocoNet monitor window so I could see what was going on. When I attempted to do a Reset / Factory Reset / USER PRESET 1, the LocoNet
Monitor window indicated that it was doing a "Write Byte in Paged Mode on Service Track". Shouldn't that have been "Write Byte in Direct Mode on Service Track"???
I also noticed that when doing a Reset / Factory Reset / "Entire Decoder (except speed table)" it also did a "Write Byte in Paged Mode on Service Track".
The "reset entire decoder" DOES seem to reset the decoder. The USER PRESET 1 factory reset does NOT appear to be working. However it is writing
the correct values to the correct CVs in the correct order. (CV201=5, CV202=0, CVC203=0, CV204=8). I believe I am doing these things correctly. However
I'm kind of a newbie so I may not be understanding things correctly. Is there a process for reporting a possible JMRI / DecoderPro bug?
Thanks, have a good day!
Tim

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Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...

Good morning,
I believe there may be a possible bug in JMRI / DecoderPro when using a TCS WOW-121 Steam Decoder.
I have the latest test release of JMRI running (5.3.5). I have a Digitrax DCS240+ command station and a SoundTraxx PTB-100 Programming track booster.
I have a dedicated programming track with a Broadway Limited Imports HO Steam Locomotive. This locomotive has a TCS B-MB4 motherboard
and a TCS WOW-121 Steam decoder installed in it. So far it seems to be working well. I am on the programming track / LocoNet / Mode = Direct Byte.
I started up a LocoNet monitor window so I could see what was going on. When I attempted to do a Reset / Factory Reset / USER PRESET 1, the LocoNet
Monitor window indicated that it was doing a "Write Byte in Paged Mode on Service Track". Shouldn't that have been "Write Byte in Direct Mode on Service Track"???
I also noticed that when doing a Reset / Factory Reset / "Entire Decoder (except speed table)" it also did a "Write Byte in?Paged?Mode on Service Track".
The "reset entire decoder" DOES seem to reset the decoder. The USER PRESET 1 factory reset does NOT appear to be working. However it is writing
the correct values to the correct CVs in the correct order. (CV201=5, CV202=0, CVC203=0, CV204=8). I believe I am doing these things correctly. However
I'm kind of a newbie so I may not be understanding things correctly. Is there a process for reporting a possible JMRI / DecoderPro bug?
Thanks, have a good day!
Tim

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Thanks Kevin.

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 10:30 PM, Handrail-18 wrote:

I select each individual one to try with throttle they do not respond to any.

Wouter might be on to something.
Are you trying to run the locomotive on the programming track?
Some command stations can do that and some can't.
Did you, in fact, put the locomotive on the layout tracks to test with the throttle?
Did you try the horn or bell?

Another thought:
What happens when you do the DecoderPro "Identify" function while on the programming track?
Can you read back a few selected CVs (CV1,2,3,8)?

Bachmann has sold Locomotives with Soundtraxx and TCS as well as E-Z Command. Is it native E-Z?

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On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 09:25 PM, Mark Ziebell wrote:

Perhaps when I tried to update Java (or perhaps having Azul and Oracle installed) was the problem.

Mark yes.
I ran into a problem, not manifested in the same way.
Oracle was sitting there unbeknownst to me.
Oracle uninstall app solved my problem.
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[DB150][PR3][QuadLN_S][JMRI 5.3.5]

It didn’t show those above, I will double check and get back to you Mick.?

Thanks
Duncan