Select throttle in engine driver from JMRI rather than from Engine Driver UI
#enginedriver
I would like to be able to set a particular throttle address (from roster) in Engine Driver from JMRI (rather than from Engine Driver UI) using a script or LogixNG.
I have RFID identification for locos on my layout. When 'picking up' a loco from fiddle yard I can see the loco ID, but then have to select this from the roster on Engine Driver in order to drive it.
I was wondering if there is a way to 'force' a loco ID throttle in Engine Driver without having to use the Engine Driver UI to select it from the roster. I envisage pressing a button on a (layout editor) panel which would pick up the ID from the relevant block and call a script that pushes this ID to Engine Driver for it to create a throttle for 'immediate' driving, effectively bypassing the selection process.
Is something like this possible?
Thanks,
Andy
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Re: Looking for ideas to mirror SE8C signals between two panels
You¡¯re right. That script isn¡¯t completely working because it doesn¡¯t get notified when a LocoNet message comes in that _doesn¡¯t_ change the existing state of a JMRI Turnout object. I¡¯m pretty sure it was working back in 2016 when written, so that notification node must have changed at some point in the meantime. I don¡¯t see a way to fix that script as-is. I think it¡¯ll have to be reworked to listen to the LocoNet traffic itself. I can do that, but it might be a few days until I can get to it. Sorry for the trouble. Thanks for the clear test info, that really helps. Bob On May 28, 2025, at 11:09?PM, cengel_74 via groups.io <chrisengel@...> wrote:
I was finally able to do some testing of this and it doesn't appear to be working. It works in the same way that the Logix did that I wrote in that transitions from green -> red -> green and yellow -> dark -> yellow work but red -> yellow -> red and green -> dark -> green don't work.
This was tested on the real layout and didn't work so to make it easier for me to debug/test I recreated the issue locally.
Here is what I added to the FollowSE8C :
FollowSE8c().set("LH4","LT1556", "LT1557")
Here is the logix that I wrote to enable me to drive the similar sequence that JMRI would generate when talking to a real SE8C. Basically just created a few internal sensors that when they change state send the desired turnout command
IX:AUTO:0001C1 56 Throw
[x] R1 IF Sensor "IS56Throw" state is "Sensor Active"
[x] R2 OR Sensor "IS56Throw" state is "Sensor Inactive"
THEN
When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1556" to Thrown
IX:AUTO:0001C2 56 Close
[x] R1 IF Sensor "IS56Closed" state is "Sensor Active"
[x] R2 OR Sensor "IS56Closed" state is "Sensor Inactive"
THEN
When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1556" to Closed
IX:AUTO:0001C3 57 Throw
[x] R1 IF Sensor "IS57Throw" state is "Sensor Active"
[x] R2 OR Sensor "IS57Throw" state is "Sensor Inactive"
THEN
When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1557" to Thrown
IX:AUTO:0001C4 57 Close
[x] R1 IF Sensor "IS57Closed" state is "Sensor Active"
[x] R2 OR Sensor "IS57Closed" state is "Sensor Inactive"
THEN
When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1557" to Closed
When I generate the following loconet traffic that should cause red -> yellow -> red changes but it doesn't. What I see is red -> yellow but then it does not change back to red.
21:20:45.615: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:45.615: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:45.695: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:45.713: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:50.881: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:50.881: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:50.961: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:50.979: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:54.213: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:54.234: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:54.311: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:54.329: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
I think this is the same issue that the logix is seeing in that the FollowSE8C code is setting up propertyChangeListeners but the property/turnout value is not changing in this scenario so it doesn't appear that the listener is being triggered. In the trace above LT1556 goes to thrown (RED) and then it is commanded to go to thrown (RED) again. It never goes closed (GREEN) .
Is there a way to subscribe to all messages not just changes? Is there something weird about our configuration of the SE8C that isn't generating the expected sequences?
On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 9:51?PM billybob experimenter via groups.io <jawhugrps@...> wrote:
On 5/21/2025 8:40 PM, cengel_74 via groups.io wrote:
So the question is, is there a way to resolve this issue or do I just
need to manually load the script after the panel until we get to the
point of loading the panel in the startup Yes, you will just need to manually load the script.
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Chris
¡ª Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Re: Looking for ideas to mirror SE8C signals between two panels
Chris, without wishing to get involved deeper in your issue, I can see something that doesn't seem right ... you are testing the same sensor in each logic block, so if A is on or A is off set turnout... this is clearly not what you intended?? John
I was finally able to do some testing of this and it doesn't appear to be working.? It works in the same way that the Logix did that I wrote in that transitions from green -> red -> green and yellow -> dark -> yellow work but red -> yellow -> red and green -> dark -> green?don't work.
This was tested on the real layout and didn't work so to make it easier for me to debug/test I recreated the issue locally.? Here is what I added to the FollowSE8C : FollowSE8c().set("LH4","LT1556", "LT1557")
Here is the logix that I wrote to enable me to drive the similar sequence that JMRI would generate when talking to a real SE8C. Basically just created a few internal sensors that when they change state send the desired turnout command
? IX:AUTO:0001C1 ?56 Throw ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS56Throw" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS56Throw" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1556" to Thrown ?
? IX:AUTO:0001C2 ?56 Close ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS56Closed" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS56Closed" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1556" to Closed ?
? IX:AUTO:0001C3 ?57 Throw ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS57Throw" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS57Throw" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1557" to Thrown ?
? IX:AUTO:0001C4 ?57 Close ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS57Closed" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS57Closed" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1557" to Closed??
?
When I generate the following loconet traffic that should cause red -> yellow -> red changes but it doesn't.? What I see is red -> yellow but then it does not change back to red.
21:20:45.615: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:45.615: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:45.695: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:45.713: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:50.881: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:50.881: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:50.961: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:50.979: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:54.213: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:54.234: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:54.311: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:54.329: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
I think this is the same issue that the logix is seeing in that the FollowSE8C code is setting up propertyChangeListeners but the property/turnout value is not changing in this scenario?so it doesn't appear that the listener is being triggered.? In the trace above LT1556 goes to thrown (RED) and then it is commanded to go to thrown (RED) again.? It never goes closed (GREEN) .
Is there a way to subscribe to all messages not just changes?? Is there something weird about our configuration of the SE8C that isn't generating the expected sequences?
On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 9:51?PM billybob experimenter via <jawhugrps= [email protected]> wrote: On 5/21/2025 8:40 PM, cengel_74 via wrote:
> So the question is, is there a way to resolve this issue or do I just
> need to manually load the script after the panel until we get to the
> point of loading the panel in the startup
Yes, you will just need to manually load the script.
--
?Chris
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WHERE USED doesn't find sensors located in setSensorState statements
#logixng
I have LogixNG statements using? Digital Formula: setSensorState("69-RWKE",getSensorState("69W-R")).? ?When using WHERE USED to find either of these sensor terms, these instances don't show up.? I assume this is also true for the other getX/SetX functions.? Is this a capability that can be added to WHERE USED in a future release??
?
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Jim Moomaw
Portland, OR
- Willamette Model Railroad Club (WMRC)
- NMRA, Pacific NW
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Re: LogixNG Table example: yard ladder Table?
#logixng
Dave,
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So many thanks for your patience and willingness to help, I mostly appreciate that!
I will forthright implement your advice re. file allocation.
?
Erik
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Re: Looking for ideas to mirror SE8C signals between two panels
I was finally able to do some testing of this and it doesn't appear to be working.? It works in the same way that the Logix did that I wrote in that transitions from green -> red -> green and yellow -> dark -> yellow work but red -> yellow -> red and green -> dark -> green?don't work.
This was tested on the real layout and didn't work so to make it easier for me to debug/test I recreated the issue locally.? Here is what I added to the FollowSE8C : FollowSE8c().set("LH4","LT1556", "LT1557")
Here is the logix that I wrote to enable me to drive the similar sequence that JMRI would generate when talking to a real SE8C. Basically just created a few internal sensors that when they change state send the desired turnout command
? IX:AUTO:0001C1 ?56 Throw ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS56Throw" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS56Throw" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1556" to Thrown ?
? IX:AUTO:0001C2 ?56 Close ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS56Closed" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS56Closed" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1556" to Closed ?
? IX:AUTO:0001C3 ?57 Throw ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS57Throw" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS57Throw" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1557" to Thrown ?
? IX:AUTO:0001C4 ?57 Close ?
? ? [x] ?R1 ?IF ?Sensor "IS57Closed" state is "Sensor Active" ?
? ? [x] ?R2 ? ?OR Sensor "IS57Closed" state is "Sensor Inactive" ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ?THEN ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?When Triggered True, Set Turnout, "LT1557" to Closed??
?
When I generate the following loconet traffic that should cause red -> yellow -> red changes but it doesn't.? What I see is red -> yellow but then it does not change back to red.
21:20:45.615: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:45.615: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:45.695: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:45.713: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:50.881: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:50.881: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:50.961: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:50.979: Requesting Switch at LT1557 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:54.213: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:54.234: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output On).
21:20:54.311: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
21:20:54.329: Requesting Switch at LT1556 to Thrown (Output Off).
I think this is the same issue that the logix is seeing in that the FollowSE8C code is setting up propertyChangeListeners but the property/turnout value is not changing in this scenario?so it doesn't appear that the listener is being triggered.? In the trace above LT1556 goes to thrown (RED) and then it is commanded to go to thrown (RED) again.? It never goes closed (GREEN) .
Is there a way to subscribe to all messages not just changes?? Is there something weird about our configuration of the SE8C that isn't generating the expected sequences?
On Wed, May 21, 2025 at 9:51?PM billybob experimenter via <jawhugrps= [email protected]> wrote:
On 5/21/2025 8:40 PM, cengel_74 via wrote:
> So the question is, is there a way to resolve this issue or do I just
> need to manually load the script after the panel until we get to the
> point of loading the panel in the startup
Yes, you will just need to manually load the script.
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Re: Creating a Logix NG to toggle MQTT controlled relays
#logixng
#mqtt
Heath,
LogixNG has the actions Publish and Subscribe for MQTT.
Subscribe let you listen on one or many topics and Publish let
you publish a message. You can use wildcards to subscribe on many
topics at once.
When you subscribe to topics, you can use other LogixNG actions
like Digital Formula to parse the topic in the messages you
receive to decide what you should do about it.
Daniel
On 2025-05-29 02:57, Heath @
Human[c]ity Junction wrote:
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I have MANY MQTT controlled relays on my layout, they control
the track power to each block on the layout.
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I want to create a LogixNG script that will toggle each
relay, one at a time, so that the system knows the state of the
MQTT device. Is there a way to automate this, or do I have to
create a script to togge each one, one at a time.
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Other option, is there a way to query the state of the MQTT
devices and just have it report back it's state so that the
sensors know the position of the relays. I suspect it could be
done in software, buy I am currently just manually toggling each
relay so JMRI can detect it's setting.
?
Thanks
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Creating a Logix NG to toggle MQTT controlled relays
#logixng
#mqtt
I have MANY MQTT controlled relays on my layout, they control the track power to each block on the layout.
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I want to create a LogixNG script that will toggle each relay, one at a time, so that the system knows the state of the MQTT device. Is there a way to automate this, or do I have to create a script to togge each one, one at a time.
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Other option, is there a way to query the state of the MQTT devices and just have it report back it's state so that the sensors know the position of the relays. I suspect it could be done in software, buy I am currently just manually toggling each relay so JMRI can detect it's setting.
?
Thanks
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Re: EngineDriver Beta v2.40.199 now available from the Play Store
#enginedriver
v2.40.199 was automatically downloaded to my Samsung Z6 Fold, but due to ongoing health issues, I am still unable to do much testing (only your web site is available to me).? However, I do have a couple of questions: Where are Function Preferences (and other engine related data?) stored between ED sessions? And why can't I find that data via the Files app?
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Re: Simple way to move any loco between two points (automated)?
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----- Original message ----- Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Simple way to move any loco between two points (automated)? Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 4:58 PM
On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 08:13 AM, Dave Sand wrote: Ramping will depend on momentum. As I've been going through AbstractAutomaton I came upon 'waitMsec'. With a warrant script it changes throttle value when starting or stopping using elapsed time. Can I replicate this in the script with this command. i.e.? self.throttle.setSpeedSetting(0.1) ??????? print 'train shoud be moving' waitMsec(2000) self.throttle.setSpeedSetting(0.2) waitMsec(2000) self.throttle.setSpeedSetting(0.3) ? -- H.O. Australia (Layout in Progress) Digikeijs DR5000 LocoNet JMRI v5.10 DecoderPro/Warrants/CPE/SML/LogixNG Java: OpenLogic jre-17.0.12.7 ? Windows 10
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Thanks Dan that worked like a charm.?
Fran
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Fran,
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I would recommend that you restore one of your backups.? If "Auto backups" was enabled in the Settings window, the program should have created a set of backup files for you each time you started OperationsPro.
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Dan
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Re: Simple way to move any loco between two points (automated)?
On Tue, May 27, 2025 at 08:13 AM, Dave Sand wrote:
Ramping will depend on momentum.
As I've been going through AbstractAutomaton I came upon 'waitMsec'.
With a warrant script it changes throttle value when starting or stopping using elapsed time. Can I replicate this in the script with this command.
i.e.?
self.throttle.setSpeedSetting(0.1)
??????? print 'train shoud be moving'
waitMsec(2000)
self.throttle.setSpeedSetting(0.2)
waitMsec(2000)
self.throttle.setSpeedSetting(0.3)
?
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H.O. Australia (Layout in Progress)
Digikeijs DR5000 LocoNet
JMRI v5.10 DecoderPro/Warrants/CPE/SML/LogixNG
Java: OpenLogic jre-17.0.12.7 ? Windows 10
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Re: Logix, can I view Timers that have been activated but the time has not expired yet?
#logix
On 5/28/2025 3:56 PM, eddane2550 via groups.io wrote: Thanks in advance for your help.
? Would like to be able to see sensors that in Logix, I have I have executed "Delayed Set Sensor", but the wait time has not yet been reached.? Can this be done? _In Logix_, I do not think so. To a large extent, Logix does some things that are not well understood by current JMRI coders. (That is why a developer or two came up with the LogixNG scheme instead - it apparantly is MUCH easier to make JMRI internal changes than with Logix.) Why do you want this type of feature? Is it because of the annoying "... WARN - timer already active on request to start delayed sensor action - ..." messages in the JMRI Console Log? If so, I have found that including a "Reset Delayed Set Sensors" action or a "Cancel Timers for Sensors" action, before any of the other actions in the conditional, in the Logix "Actions" where I will later be setting a "Delayed" Set Sensor" operation, will, someimes, resolve that WARN message. Sometimes it seems to help. Other times not. Oh well. LogixNG I have no idea about... (I don't use LogixNG for a wide variety on reasons, including that "debugging" it is very difficult for me, and that the .XML for a given LogixNG implementation of a set of conditionals is HUGELY larger than XML for the equivalent implementation in Logix. Just my opinion, though. YMMV!)
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Re: LogixNG Table example: yard ladder Table?
#logixng
Erik
No Dave, I store all .xml files in each profile's directory. So I guess I have been right in that aspect.
Do they automatically go there? ?Does "profile:" and "preference:" match for all of your profiles? ?They do not match for the "Mijn_JMRI_Spoorweg.jmri" profile. ?Also, the roster.xml file and most likely the roster directory are at?C:\Users\Erik Arckens\JMRI\.
I recommend that you use "Preferences -> File Locations" and set the "User File Location" the same as the profile location. ?That is where other people will expect to find user data. ?
I am in the process of looking at your files.
The first problem was that path to the CSV file.
<fileName>preference:Mijn_JMRI_Spoorweg.jmri/yard-ladder-example/yard-ladder-cmri_dutch.csv</fileName>
With standard locations and putting files at the preference/profile directory level, the path is much simpler
<fileName>preference:yard-ladder-cmri_dutch.csv</fileName>
I will have more feedback later.
Dave Sand
----- Original message ----- Subject: Re: [jmriusers] LogixNG Table example: yard ladder Table? #logixng Date: Wednesday, May 28, 2025 12:44 PM
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 07:00 PM, Dave Sand wrote: As I mentioned earlier, you user files location is?C:\Users\Erik Arckens\JMRI\. ?I suspect most of your user data, including roster, other xml data files, etc., are located here. No Dave, I store all .xml files in each profile's directory. So I guess I have been right in that aspect. But your explanation for the storage location of the .csv files now makes sense to me, thank you very much for your time spent! ? I still have some questions about the yard-ladder-example.xml: ? I try and get to use c/mri to assign sensors and turnouts, but not very succesfull to date (in stead of the internal allocation). ? My goal is to have four sensors (connected to a c/mri node) -functioning as buttons- and three 1-bit turnouts (on/off) also connected to that node. The hardware is present, and the node is equipped (programmed) with the in- and outputs configured in the node. ? I made a table that had been exported into a .csv file, and modified your NG code for that table. I add below the .xml and the .csv: would you be able to have a look at the configuration please? The .xml is stored in my corresponding profile folder, the .csv is stored under C:\Users\Erik Arckens\JMRI\ ? Thank you for your attention and time! Erik ? ?
Attachments: - yard-ladder-example_cmri_2.xml
- yard-ladder-cmri_dutch.csv
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Logix, can I view Timers that have been activated but the time has not expired yet?
#logix
Thanks in advance for your help.
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? Would like to be able to see sensors that in Logix, I have I have executed "Delayed Set Sensor", but the wait time has not yet been reached.? Can this be done?
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Thanks....? ?Ed Dane
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When adding a column to the Roster page of JMRI, are CVs accessible to add a value to that column or would it need a script to accomplish that?
-- John Griffin
Model Railroading Topics
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Re: DCC-EX Voltage/current meter
#dcc-ex
I would suggest using a resistor to prove the calibration of the value. Yes, it sounds like values are in mA as you are seeing. But it may also be just the analog value which for an UNO is 0 to 1023 as I recall. You¡¯d need a resistor good for a couple of watts, I use 10 and 25 watt for testing circuit breakers. ? Somebody who knows the circuit and the code could tell what the value really is meaning. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: DCC-EX Voltage/current meter
#dcc-ex
Is it me, or does the DCC-EX documentation suggests those values should be returned the other way round¡?
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Re: DCC-EX Voltage/current meter
#dcc-ex
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 11:38 AM, Daniel Mcmillan wrote:
am I missing out on anything by running it on an Uno?
I've no idea of specifics, just reflecting what I've seen on the Discord group, that "some" features are disabled to get EX-CommandStation to fit and run on an UNO. I'm sure someone on the Discord group could tell you if they chose to.
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If your UNO setup is doing what you need it to, you've no need to change.?
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--SteveT
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Re: DCC-EX Voltage/current meter
#dcc-ex
Thanks Steve.
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When you say that DCC-EX really needs more oomph than an UNO can provide, am I missing out on anything by running it on an Uno?
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I have it connected to my laptop running only via JMRI (tablet throttles via JMRI¡¯s wi-throttle server)? and don¡¯t use any of the additional features that EX can potentially provide. I run an end to end layout, max two Locos at any one time and program CVs on the B-side output of the motor shield using JMRI¡¯s decoder pro.
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Would I see any benefits/additions by upgrading to a Mega in my situation do you think?
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Bob Jacobsen
Erik84750
Heath @ Human[c]ity Junction
Ken Cameron