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Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

Steve Spence
 

You absolutely can have both wired and wifi running at same time, but only one can have a default route. I run mine as a wifi hotspot with ethernet uplink.

Steve Spence, KK4HFJ



On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 7:59 PM jimalbanowski <jimalbanowski@...> wrote:
Gentlemen:

No... RPi-JMRI can be running it's WiFi server and have a wired ethernet
connection at the same time. It's kinda cool the WiThrottle server pane
shows both addresses...? I would quit out of JMRI though...

When I posted on? my "fix" of the two displays problem that's indeed
what I did.

It is true however that if you've built your own Pi cinfig running JMRI
connecting to the "house" WiFi using the Pi WiFi connection you'll not
need the wired.

Jim Albanowski






Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

 

Gentlemen:

No... RPi-JMRI can be running it's WiFi server and have a wired ethernet connection at the same time. It's kinda cool the WiThrottle server pane shows both addresses...? I would quit out of JMRI though...

When I posted on? my "fix" of the two displays problem that's indeed what I did.

It is true however that if you've built your own Pi cinfig running JMRI connecting to the "house" WiFi using the Pi WiFi connection you'll not need the wired.

Jim Albanowski


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You can only have one internet connection active at a time. The hard wired connection takes priority on booting. If it`s plugged in after making the Wi-fi connection, you have to disconnect the wired connection and direct the Pi to connect to an ethernet wi-fi connection.Of course you can`t use the Wi-fi connection to drive JMRI in a headless situation. There is only one ethernet connection and it`s ``eth0``. For that reason I use a 7` screen of which there are many brands to choose from. I did have some problems with a waveshare but it was not functional from day 1

On Saturday, August 31, 2019, 10:59:27 AM GMT-4, Roger Merritt <merritt_roger@...> wrote:


Don,

? ? I learned the hard way that the WiFi doesn't work if you have the Ethernet plugged in or the RPI-JMRI VNC running.? ?Had to drag my monitor and Pi up to the computer room to hook up to the Ethernet connection so I can get this upgrade for screensaver.

Roger


Locked Re: Norton blocking JMRI web site

 

Mine started doing that the other day, too. I resolved it by going into the Google options and disabling the Norton Google extensions. I hadn¡¯t turned it on to start with, so apparently Norton or Google decided for me that I needed it. If you¡¯re running Norton or Windows Protector you probably don¡¯t need it anyway.
--
Mike Heintzman
Modeling the P&PU since 1953


Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

 

Don,

? ? I learned the hard way that the WiFi doesn't work if you have the Ethernet plugged in or the RPI-JMRI VNC running.? ?Had to drag my monitor and Pi up to the computer room to hook up to the Ethernet connection so I can get this upgrade for screensaver.

Roger


Locked Re: Norton blocking JMRI web site

 

Quite strange, working OK now but it was fine on lots of other sites, just blocked any JMRI page.


Locked Re: Signal pair conflict with turnout state? and auto train speed.?

 

Sorry, can't help because newbie. But I think I can learn from your layout. So I unzipped your resources and tried loading your xml file and got an error? box with this content: Parse Error..JDOMParseException...Attribute stopallocatingsensor is not allowed to appear in element 'transitsection'
Any idea? Thanks.


Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

 

Group:

Clever Pi tricks... Message panel on screen during Upgrade... Changes to desktop check... Each monitor can have it's own wall paper!

Jim Albanowski


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Don:

After I did my test I swapped a plain version of Buster into my Pi4 and the update seems to have made changes in the Pi firmware as well, the main change with the second screen I noticed was there on the boot of the Pi...

It's seems the Pi4 hardware appeared a bit sooner than the software folks were quite ready for...

Jim Albanowski


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Don:

I've added a screen saver control with a program to let me control screen saver times...

sudo apt-get install xscreensaver

However it's best to do an update first...

sudo apt-get update

followed with

sudo apt-get upgrade

After installing the xscreensaver you'll find it in the preferences tab in the Raspberry menu.

Further actual testing... With Steve's image of Buster and following my own advice of doing the update first, well after I looked at what the image with some older updates would do. There I saw some real issues with the second screen not coming up or the Pi not booting at all. So with the update/upgrade which was very large... it seems to have fixed a bunch of 2nd screen issues!

Jim Albanowski


Locked Re: Getting started with JMRI for Signalling #loconet

 

Geofrey? (Or whatever "friendly" name you would like to use...)

For the problem where JMRI is unable to communicate with the SE8c:

See for information on the ways in which the PR4 can be used with JMRI.

You probably have used JMRI with the PR4 as a "standalone programmer", where the decoder is on a programming track which is connected to the PR4. This is the first usage mode in the first table shown in the web page mentioned above. In that mode, the PR4 does not communicate with LocoNet.

For communication with the SE8C, the second mode in the first table is the one you want.

Most users will implement one "configuration profile" configured to communicate with the PR4 in "standalone programmer" mode, and one configuration profile to communicate with the PR4 in "LocoNet interface" mode. When you have two (or more) separate configuration profiles, JMRI will start-up with a chooser window so that you can select one of the profiles (or it will default to the last-used profile if you don't select one within 10 seconds).

Note that JMRI can be used for programming decoders via the command station's programming track connections when used with a PR4 "LocoNet interface" connection. But because you have a DB150, you would be limited to write operations using that mechanism, since the DB150 does not support CV reads on its programming track.

As such, with the configuration shown above, it is appropriate to switch to the "PR4 standalone programmer" profile for programming, and switch to the "PR4 LocoNet Interface" profile for signaling development and operation.

Regards,
Billybob


Locked Norton blocking JMRI web site

 

Norton has started blocking my access to JMRI web pages, I just ignore it as the URL is correct but is this something others are experiencing?
Dangerous Web Page Blocked
You attempted to access:
http://www.jmri.org/help/en/index.shtml
This is a known dangerous web page. It is highly recommended that you do NOT visit this page.?

Visit
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to learn more about phishing and internet security.


Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

 

Don,

On 8/31/19 7:44 AM, Don Cummings wrote:
Update 2.? ?Another brain f**t.? This is probably a Pi issue and not a
JMRI issue and I need to ask a Pi guru what to look for.? If anyone here
can help I would appreciate it but I will be looking into a Pi support
forum if I can find one.
Yes, it's an RPi issue. Though I have one pointer for you: Check (and
change / comment out) all the different HDMI and Video Output settings
from the /boot/config.txt (you'll also see the config.txt if you place
the SD card in a Windows PC - just don't let Windows format anything!)

I had to comment out all HDMI settings to get Steve's image to show
anything on a pi-topCEED: -
it was booting up fine, but the screen stayed black.

And for general linux turning off the screen saver, run the following
commands:

xset s off
xset -dpms

I guess these days there is a graphical interface to do that as well,
but don't know since I never searched for that ;)

Good luck,
Heiko


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Colin Bennett
 

Norton 360 and Windows defender also reports the install as dangerous, install anyway as we know the provider is trusted.


Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

Don Cummings
 

Update 2.? ?Another brain f**t.? This is probably a Pi issue and not a JMRI issue and I need to ask a Pi guru what to look for.? If anyone here can help I would appreciate it but I will be looking into a Pi support forum if I can find one.

One more time, thanks.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:33 PM Don Cummings <dacum47@...> wrote:
Update.? ?I think I remember something being said about not being able to use the server that starts with Steve's image and wifi at the same time, duh obviously.? One part finished.
The club has no internet access available anyway so not a big issue at this time. Still leaves the monitor issue.

Thanks again, Don

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:26 PM Don Cummings <dacum47@...> wrote:
This is my first post to this forum if I can remember rightly.??
I have a raspberry pi 4b 4gb model, and put Steve's buster image on it and it booted from the sdcard with the image on it and it looked promising.??
I want to use this on the clubs n-scale layout using dual monitors for panels of upper and lower decks.? Both monitors are new using 1920x1080 resolution.
The first time it came up beautifully. I imported our engine roster and the panels.? Reworked the panels to use the entire screen on both monitors. Saved the panels and took a break.
I came back and the monitors had gone to sleep.? Moved the mouse and only primary monitor woke up. The other said no signal.? I could not get to the internet because the wifi was not on and I couldn't find where to start it. I looked for both the wifi and and power settings for the monitors to not go to sleep but could find neither. Set both monitor settings (on the monitor) to not timeout but that didn't help.

I rebooted the pi and then things started up funny. I didn't get a splash screen and nothing happened.? Repowered the pi again and it came up, both monitors but no wifi again. I let them go to sleep again and monitor2 again said no signal.

I'm not the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to linux but I can remember some of the basic commands. I replaced the sdcard with the one that came with the pi and it came up and I was going to install JMRI from scratch but I couldn't remember the process (need to refresh my memory, my head is 72 years old and either rusty or cloudy or something along that line).

Sorry for the book but I could use some suggestions. Let me know if this is enough info to illicit a response, if not let me know what you need and i'll try to get it for you.
Thanks,? Don

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:14 PM Robert Schworm <rkschworm@...> wrote:
I have to agree with Dave on this one.? Stick with quality and do not go cheap.? It will always come back to bite.? And remember - - - - backup backup backup!!

Bob S

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:20 AM davethomas1359 via Groups.Io <davethomas1359=[email protected]> wrote:
I have found with all versions of Pi that it really does pay to use a known name brand class 10 Micro SD card.

On Thursday, August 15, 2019, 09:17:47 AM GMT-4, Robert Schworm <rkschworm@...> wrote:


I prefer win32diskimager, especially for a 32 bit pc as the other does not appear to work.? Never had a problem.? Good going!
Bob S

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 8:07 PM Seth Neumann <sneumann@...> wrote:
thanks, somehow I missed this thread when it first went up.?? I'll try a Pi4 as soon as I can get my hands on one!

On 7/6/2019 3:27 AM, jimalbanowski wrote:
Group:

Steve and I went offline a bit with this...

Recap... Pi 4B came home Monday and I got it running with regular tools and new Raspbian Buster that's required.

Steve got a version of RPi-JMRI up Wednesday afternoon and I Etched his image to a working SD from a Pi 3B+. No good, never got past a short boot to a command line but that seems to work at least..?

We spent yesterday and this morning working through the issue with Steve kindly working to give me check points and good "try thises" all logical but nothing worked.

Okay I changed two things, the Pi, well, that worked and the software and that didn't so software yes?

No... there was a clue in one test where I saw a message where a log file couldn't be opened, that seemed odd.

So how about this, the SD is broken, happened on the initial load of Steve's image... The boot partition is readable but it or the root partition is now *not* writable..? The Pi can read enough to get some of Raspbian up and do some things but now to go beyond that point and bring up anything else... Like the GUI and then Java/JMRI.

Replaced the card and Steve's image is up on the new Pi 4B all you RPi-JMRI fans!

Thanks Steve and I hope a cautionary tale for all those of you trying to trouble shoot your JMRI system or any computer system for that matter. It may not be what you think! Last attempt to burn card with Etcher produced a tiny red ! and a checksum error hard to notice on the Etcher page big blue completed tiny error...

While I couldn't score a 4 GB model, the speed of the new 4 is quite noticeable.

Jim Albanowski





-- 
Seth Neumann
Mountain View, CA


Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

Don Cummings
 

Update.? ?I think I remember something being said about not being able to use the server that starts with Steve's image and wifi at the same time, duh obviously.? One part finished.
The club has no internet access available anyway so not a big issue at this time. Still leaves the monitor issue.

Thanks again, Don

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:26 PM Don Cummings <dacum47@...> wrote:
This is my first post to this forum if I can remember rightly.??
I have a raspberry pi 4b 4gb model, and put Steve's buster image on it and it booted from the sdcard with the image on it and it looked promising.??
I want to use this on the clubs n-scale layout using dual monitors for panels of upper and lower decks.? Both monitors are new using 1920x1080 resolution.
The first time it came up beautifully. I imported our engine roster and the panels.? Reworked the panels to use the entire screen on both monitors. Saved the panels and took a break.
I came back and the monitors had gone to sleep.? Moved the mouse and only primary monitor woke up. The other said no signal.? I could not get to the internet because the wifi was not on and I couldn't find where to start it. I looked for both the wifi and and power settings for the monitors to not go to sleep but could find neither. Set both monitor settings (on the monitor) to not timeout but that didn't help.

I rebooted the pi and then things started up funny. I didn't get a splash screen and nothing happened.? Repowered the pi again and it came up, both monitors but no wifi again. I let them go to sleep again and monitor2 again said no signal.

I'm not the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to linux but I can remember some of the basic commands. I replaced the sdcard with the one that came with the pi and it came up and I was going to install JMRI from scratch but I couldn't remember the process (need to refresh my memory, my head is 72 years old and either rusty or cloudy or something along that line).

Sorry for the book but I could use some suggestions. Let me know if this is enough info to illicit a response, if not let me know what you need and i'll try to get it for you.
Thanks,? Don

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:14 PM Robert Schworm <rkschworm@...> wrote:
I have to agree with Dave on this one.? Stick with quality and do not go cheap.? It will always come back to bite.? And remember - - - - backup backup backup!!

Bob S

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:20 AM davethomas1359 via Groups.Io <davethomas1359=[email protected]> wrote:
I have found with all versions of Pi that it really does pay to use a known name brand class 10 Micro SD card.

On Thursday, August 15, 2019, 09:17:47 AM GMT-4, Robert Schworm <rkschworm@...> wrote:


I prefer win32diskimager, especially for a 32 bit pc as the other does not appear to work.? Never had a problem.? Good going!
Bob S

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 8:07 PM Seth Neumann <sneumann@...> wrote:
thanks, somehow I missed this thread when it first went up.?? I'll try a Pi4 as soon as I can get my hands on one!

On 7/6/2019 3:27 AM, jimalbanowski wrote:
Group:

Steve and I went offline a bit with this...

Recap... Pi 4B came home Monday and I got it running with regular tools and new Raspbian Buster that's required.

Steve got a version of RPi-JMRI up Wednesday afternoon and I Etched his image to a working SD from a Pi 3B+. No good, never got past a short boot to a command line but that seems to work at least..?

We spent yesterday and this morning working through the issue with Steve kindly working to give me check points and good "try thises" all logical but nothing worked.

Okay I changed two things, the Pi, well, that worked and the software and that didn't so software yes?

No... there was a clue in one test where I saw a message where a log file couldn't be opened, that seemed odd.

So how about this, the SD is broken, happened on the initial load of Steve's image... The boot partition is readable but it or the root partition is now *not* writable..? The Pi can read enough to get some of Raspbian up and do some things but now to go beyond that point and bring up anything else... Like the GUI and then Java/JMRI.

Replaced the card and Steve's image is up on the new Pi 4B all you RPi-JMRI fans!

Thanks Steve and I hope a cautionary tale for all those of you trying to trouble shoot your JMRI system or any computer system for that matter. It may not be what you think! Last attempt to burn card with Etcher produced a tiny red ! and a checksum error hard to notice on the Etcher page big blue completed tiny error...

While I couldn't score a 4 GB model, the speed of the new 4 is quite noticeable.

Jim Albanowski





-- 
Seth Neumann
Mountain View, CA


Locked Re: Complete Raspberry PI source question

 

This is my first post to this forum if I can remember rightly.??
I have a raspberry pi 4b 4gb model, and put Steve's buster image on it and it booted from the sdcard with the image on it and it looked promising.??
I want to use this on the clubs n-scale layout using dual monitors for panels of upper and lower decks.? Both monitors are new using 1920x1080 resolution.
The first time it came up beautifully. I imported our engine roster and the panels.? Reworked the panels to use the entire screen on both monitors. Saved the panels and took a break.
I came back and the monitors had gone to sleep.? Moved the mouse and only primary monitor woke up. The other said no signal.? I could not get to the internet because the wifi was not on and I couldn't find where to start it. I looked for both the wifi and and power settings for the monitors to not go to sleep but could find neither. Set both monitor settings (on the monitor) to not timeout but that didn't help.

I rebooted the pi and then things started up funny. I didn't get a splash screen and nothing happened.? Repowered the pi again and it came up, both monitors but no wifi again. I let them go to sleep again and monitor2 again said no signal.

I'm not the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to linux but I can remember some of the basic commands. I replaced the sdcard with the one that came with the pi and it came up and I was going to install JMRI from scratch but I couldn't remember the process (need to refresh my memory, my head is 72 years old and either rusty or cloudy or something along that line).

Sorry for the book but I could use some suggestions. Let me know if this is enough info to illicit a response, if not let me know what you need and i'll try to get it for you.
Thanks,? Don

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:14 PM Robert Schworm <rkschworm@...> wrote:
I have to agree with Dave on this one.? Stick with quality and do not go cheap.? It will always come back to bite.? And remember - - - - backup backup backup!!

Bob S

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 11:20 AM davethomas1359 via Groups.Io <davethomas1359=[email protected]> wrote:
I have found with all versions of Pi that it really does pay to use a known name brand class 10 Micro SD card.

On Thursday, August 15, 2019, 09:17:47 AM GMT-4, Robert Schworm <rkschworm@...> wrote:


I prefer win32diskimager, especially for a 32 bit pc as the other does not appear to work.? Never had a problem.? Good going!
Bob S

On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 8:07 PM Seth Neumann <sneumann@...> wrote:
thanks, somehow I missed this thread when it first went up.?? I'll try a Pi4 as soon as I can get my hands on one!

On 7/6/2019 3:27 AM, jimalbanowski wrote:
Group:

Steve and I went offline a bit with this...

Recap... Pi 4B came home Monday and I got it running with regular tools and new Raspbian Buster that's required.

Steve got a version of RPi-JMRI up Wednesday afternoon and I Etched his image to a working SD from a Pi 3B+. No good, never got past a short boot to a command line but that seems to work at least..?

We spent yesterday and this morning working through the issue with Steve kindly working to give me check points and good "try thises" all logical but nothing worked.

Okay I changed two things, the Pi, well, that worked and the software and that didn't so software yes?

No... there was a clue in one test where I saw a message where a log file couldn't be opened, that seemed odd.

So how about this, the SD is broken, happened on the initial load of Steve's image... The boot partition is readable but it or the root partition is now *not* writable..? The Pi can read enough to get some of Raspbian up and do some things but now to go beyond that point and bring up anything else... Like the GUI and then Java/JMRI.

Replaced the card and Steve's image is up on the new Pi 4B all you RPi-JMRI fans!

Thanks Steve and I hope a cautionary tale for all those of you trying to trouble shoot your JMRI system or any computer system for that matter. It may not be what you think! Last attempt to burn card with Etcher produced a tiny red ! and a checksum error hard to notice on the Etcher page big blue completed tiny error...

While I couldn't score a 4 GB model, the speed of the new 4 is quite noticeable.

Jim Albanowski





-- 
Seth Neumann
Mountain View, CA


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On Aug 30, 2019, at 8:33 AM, TrainzLuvr <trainzluvr@...> wrote:

I have been in contact with Roco in the past months about their CAN protocol. They are using ZCAN20 (Zimo) protocol in the Z21.

If you read through ZCAN20 document Bob linked below () you will see references to Z21 CS and various Roco CAN accessories.

Interesting.

I also find it very interesting that the document mentions a UDP based protocol ( via the Ethernet connection ). ?It looks like adding support for that protocol would add support for the Zimo MX10. ?

I am now curious to see if Roco implemented that protocol in the Z21. ?It¡¯s clear that Roco¡¯s own ?software supports communication to the CAN connection that isn¡¯t as limited as the Z21 protocol... ?which gives me a project to work on... not that I needed another one.

Rocrail has some of this protocol supported as part of their RCAN/CAN-GC* hardware combo,?, code available at?

We actually support Zimo hardware in serial mode now. ?Given the right hardware interface, it probably could talk to the Z21¡¯s CAN connection.

Paul, but this is actually straying quite a bit from the intention of this thread.


Locked Getting started with JMRI for Signalling #loconet

 

Hello all. I am relatively new to JMRI. I have used it to program locomotive decoders and am now looking to install and program signals at a quad interlocking.

Hardware: Digitrax DB150 command station, Digitrax PR4 decoder programmer, Digitrax SE8C decoder, and an Azatrax MDR6 for sensors. Windows 10 laptop.


I've installed JMRI Decoder Pro and Panel Pro. Having connected all the hardware, I've been able to power on the test signal and change signal indications using the control panel in PanelPro under the example configuration provided by the JMRI install (PanelProTest). However, when I attempt to create my own panel I do not get any communication between the PR4 and SE8C. It seems there's limited information online about how to set everything up in JMRI.

From what I've read and tested I suspect in creating a new panel, I first have to add the SE8C to PanelPro. I do not see the SE8C listed under LocoNet as I did in the example configuration. When I'm logged into PanelPro using PanelProTest, under LocoNet I can see an option to configure the SE8C.??

I am unsure of how to add the SE8C to my own active configuration profile.Can anyone point me to a manual or something to reference on how to accomplish this first step?
Once I get past this step, I am assuming the next step would be to create a panel, then create signal heads, then signal masts, which would then be added to the panel.

The signals I am installing are 2 target type-G signal. I will have 3 sensors in the track, and will be adding a wabbit to tie the switch position in to the SE8C at a later date.

Any help is appreciated!