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Re: Blocks not working properly
No joy Ken all that happens is that it just switches around or stays active, I even tried playing around with the active inactive button, I basically have to manually turn active and inactive depending on what block it is in. The only thing that works is assigning the block in the layout according to which block lights up, when the train is in the block that does not. I don¡¯t know how that will work when I do my signal logics. Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Alberto Allen via Groups.IoSent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 2:10 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Blocks not working properly ? Exactly Ken let me give it a shot, although I might had tried that and did not work, if I remember correctly ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? Alberto, ? When looking at the sensor table, are you saying the sensors show the opposite state, meaning active when there isn't a train and inactive when there is? The cure for that is the 'Invert' checkbox, if checked, uncheck it, if unchecked, check it. That will reverse the state. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Throttle operating in reverse
On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 03:58 PM, Norb Schertzer wrote:
I've even tried to reset the CVs to factory settings.. no dice. Other than reversed throttle direction, the engine behaves as it should. Any suggestions?
If you reset to factory defaults AND TESTED BEFORE ANY OTHER CV CHANGES ? and issue still present then the motor is wired wrong. Invert connections to motor. Marc
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Cannot read, but can write, with Decoder Pro
I have been using DecoderPro for several years and purchased a new loco today then direct up DecoderPro to add it into the stable, and whilst DecoderPro shows me as connected to the Z21 with the green statements down the bottom and it will identify and existing loco I cannot add a new loco.
when I try to add a new loco the page display showing the list of decoder by I cannot read decoder type as the button is greyed out. I also notice that if I place a loco that is already in the programme whilst DecoderPro will read and identify the loco when I open the pages for said loco the option to read sheet or all sheets from the loco is also greyed out though the ability to write changes to sheet or all sheets is available and working.
i updated tonight to the latest bpversion of JMRI to ensure that were wasn't an issue (previous version was about 6 month old) but the issue is still the same.
what am I doing wrong - can anyone tell me please. This programme is too valuable and useful not to be able to use it.
iain
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Re: Programming locos with Fleischmann Twin-Center sw ver. 2.000 and DecoderPro 4.14
Good evening Bob
This is interesting, actually I noticed that the traces read "Uhlenbrock IB-COM / Intellibox II" just after I sent the message and I was surprised since I know that the Twin-Center is nothing more than a rebranded Intellibox I...
Is there a version 1 that works differently?
As I wrote on my first message my Twin-Center was on the previous software version 1.1 when I first tried it with JMRI many years ago, but I have never tested the old firmware with the latest production version of DecoderPro. But if you need later I can downgrade it back to 1.1 and try see what happens :)
How have you got your JMRI connection and command station options set?
I followed the instructions for the "Direct serial connection" on the for the Intellibox/Twin-Center.
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Re: Throttle operating in reverse
Norb:
What sort of engine? If a hood diesel where's the F on the engine? Otherwise CV29 doing a bunch of things might as has been suggested been set to reverse the direction as in a consist.
If direction of lights is opposite travel then motor wires...
Jim Albanowski
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Re: Throttle operating in reverse
Decoder plugged in to an 8pin socket the wrong way round? ?Miswired locomotive (swap the motor wires over)?
Mick
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Re: Throttle operating in reverse
Go to DecoderPro basic sheet for the loco, read full sheet, and see if it is programmed for normal direction being reverse. If not, it may be the motor wires are reversed. Do the lights come on correctly for the direction of travel? ? Mark Granville
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Re: Continued ECoS Issues...think I am near a solution. It is the ECoSDetector RC 4 ports
I¡¯ve never seen documentation of the ECoS protocol. I believe you will find that it is the same as the protocol for the original Marklin central station, as ESU made that for Marklin, then came out with their own unit, which shared many features with the Marklin one. I provided a google translation of the original Marklin documentation which allowed the JMRI team to get the original connection to the Marklin cs1 done, and I believe that was then expanded to the ESU unit.
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Throttle operating in reverse
I'm currently operating 5 engines on my railroad using JMRI 4.14, NCE SB5 USB interface v 7 and lastest java release.? Added a new engine, but for some reason the JMRI throttle doen't work as expected.? When I select forward the train actually goes in reverse and visa versa.? The other 5 engineer behave properly ..throttle selection forward - train goes forward.? I have tried the engine on various part of the railroad each time testing the other engines on the same piece of track.? Same result.? This has to be something embarrassingly simple to fix, but I can't seem to.? All I've done with the new engine is read the CVs from the factory to create the engine profile.? I've even tried to reset the CVs to factory settings.. no dice. Other than reversed throttle direction, the engine behaves as it should. Any suggestions?
Thanks Norb? ?
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I use older IBM/Lenovo laptops and desktop units plus my MacBook Pro for JMRI and personal stuff.? I don't use anything Lenovo for personal use since IBM divested themselves and sold everything to Lenovo.? It's a security thing.
Have a blessed day.
Steve -- Have a blessed day. Steve
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Re: Blocks not working properly
Exactly Ken let me give it a shot, although I might had tried that and did not work, if I remember correctly ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Ken CameronSent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 12:41 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Blocks not working properly ? Alberto, ? When looking at the sensor table, are you saying the sensors show the opposite state, meaning active when there isn't a train and inactive when there is? The cure for that is the 'Invert' checkbox, if checked, uncheck it, if unchecked, check it. That will reverse the state. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Re: Programming locos with Fleischmann Twin-Center sw ver. 2.000 and DecoderPro 4.14
Thanks for the detail! What this is saying is that the Fleischmann Twin-Center sw ver. 2.000 doesn¡¯t use the same message sequence as (most) other Digitrax command stations, but rather the special set we first encountered for the IB-COM. JMRI knows about those (that¡¯s why it can interpret them), but just doesn¡¯t expect the Twin-Center sw ver. 2.00 to need them. Is there a version 1 that works differently? How have you got your JMRI connection and command station options set? Bob On Jan 11, 2019, at 10:10 AM, cocco.bill.97@... wrote:
18:58:09.896: [EF 0E 7C 23 00 00 00 00 00 07 00 7F 7F 46] Byte Read in Paged Mode on Service Track: CV8.
18:58:17.910: [EF 0E 7C 23 00 00 00 00 00 07 00 7F 7F 46] Byte Read in Paged Mode on Service Track: CV8.
18:58:25.931: [EF 0E 7C 23 00 00 00 00 00 07 00 7F 7F 46] Byte Read in Paged Mode on Service Track: CV8.
18:58:43.925: [83 7C] Set Global (Track) Power to 'ON'.
18:58:43.945: [83 7C] Set Global (Track) Power to 'ON'.
and this is what the Monitor says when I read CV 1 from the TC keypad:
19:02:34.553: [E5 07 01 49 42 41 56] Uhlenbrock IB-COM / Intellibox II Start Programming Track.
19:02:43.240: [ED 1F 01 49 42 71 72 01 00 2C 70 00 00 00 00 10 01 00 2C 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 64] Read CV in Direct Byte Mode from PT for Uhlenbrock IB-COM / Intellibox - CV: 1.
19:02:43.240: [81 7E] Master is busy.
19:02:43.247: [B4 6F 01 25] LONG_ACK: The Slot Write command was accepted.
19:02:46.808: [E7 0E 7C 00 00 00 72 07 00 1C 2C 7F 7F 2F] Programming Response: Uhlenbrock IB-COM / Intellibox II Programming Read Was Successful: CV29 value 44 (0x2C, 00101100b).
19:02:50.547: [E5 07 01 49 42 40 57] Uhlenbrock IB-COM / Intellibox II Stop Programming Track.
Note that the first and last messages appear respectively when I enter and exit programming mode on the Twin-Center, that is when the relay clicks.
I hope this information can help, looking forward to hear news :)
Best regards,
Marco
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Re: Continued ECoS Issues...think I am near a solution. It is the ECoSDetector RC 4 ports
I¡¯ve never seen documentation of the ECoS protocol. The license that ESU presents when downloading any of the content on their documentation page ( ) forbids using any of that information in JMRI. (It¡¯s really a pretty onerous license, and perhaps illegal in the US and UK, but one really shouldn¡¯t go against the wishes of an author in any case) Bob On Jan 11, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Nathan Tableman <nathan@...> wrote:
Sorry to repeat this one but does anyone have the ECoS protocol defined - all the object types and such? I am curious what else might not be working right.
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Thanks Bob for the quick response. Re turning off the nodes, I¡¯d like to uncheck the button ¡°enable polling at startup¡± in the configuration of the node. ?As far as I can tell, unchecking doesn¡¯t work.
As to reading minds, I have every confidence that our excellent development team will include that in a future release! ?In the meantime, I¡¯ll take a look at that script.
Jerry
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Re: JMRI with C/MRI response times
Don W - My layout is relatively small (about 45 feet of mainline plus various sidings, etc.), but I¡¯m working on making it ¡°action packed¡± so I get what you are saying.
My plan is to have five Arduinos connected to the CMRI bus with each Arduino performing multiple tasks. I have one Arduino connected to an eight relay board so it controls multiple switch machines, push buttons and, eventually, signal lights, all linked to my layout panel. ?I have another Arduino controlling various layout automations (street lighting, Ferris wheel, etc.) so timing is not particularly critical for that one. I have set up a small control panel in JMRI just to turn on and off all the various automations. Works quite well.
I am using a separate Arduino with serial communication (thanks Bob J for the starter script!) for all of my occupancy sensors (eventually a few dozen). I first tried it using CMRI but was not getting the flexibility I wanted so I switched over to serial communication via its own USB connection. ?Using this approach, I can send a lot more data back and forth to my panels (like train speed and direction, and someday identification - perhaps with RFID). ?Also working well so far.
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Overall, I¡¯m quite happy with the direction I¡¯m taking as both fun and inexpensive compared to the alternatives, although obviously not for everybody. ?Total hardware outlay is less than $100. ?We¡¯ll see how things develop as I add more controls...and remember that future generations of Arduinos will have faster processors and more memory so my scripts can do more in less time with an inexpensive hardware upgrade. ? Difficult to make that claim with any other control system approach...
Jerry
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Re: Blocks not working properly
Alberto,
When looking at the sensor table, are you saying the sensors show the
opposite state, meaning active when there isn't a train and inactive when
there is? The cure for that is the 'Invert' checkbox, if checked, uncheck
it, if unchecked, check it. That will reverse the state.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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See below. On Jan 12, 2019, at 9:02 AM, JerryG via Groups.Io <jerryg2003@...> wrote:
For various testing purposes, I want to define several CMRI nodes and then disable one or more of them. I can do this manually every time via the CMRI Network Manager, which is a bit of a pain. If disabling them manually is a pain, how do you want to do them? Unfortunately, JMRI isn¡¯t so good at reading minds (though you can control parts from Alexa: ) If you want to write scripts to automate what you¡¯re doing, the jython//CmriEditPolling.py sample will show you how to turn polling on and off. (It¡¯s a bit old, but AFAIK it still works) Bob -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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See below. On Jan 12, 2019, at 9:02 AM, JerryG via Groups.Io <jerryg2003@...> wrote:
Although I have an Arduino CMRI node connected when I start up PanelPro, when I open the CMRI Monitor, nothing appears to be happening. The CMRI Network Metrics page indicates that a single INIT was sent to the node but nothing else. When I then open a panel file (Q1: does this do some CMRI reinitialization?) the CMRI Monitor and CMRI Network Metrics start showing normal activity as expected. Q2: Why is there no CMRI activity before I load the panel file? [The CMRI node does have ¡°enable polling at start up¡± checked in the configuration. A1, A2: Polling is how JMRI gets input from the node to fill out the state of Sensors. Until there are sensors defined, there¡¯s no polling. So have JMRI load a configuration file at startup. It doesn¡¯t have to be much, just at least one sensor for each of your nodes you want to poll. Bob -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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Connecting RailDrivers to JMRI can be easy or hard. It seems to depend a lot on the time of computer, its USB support, and other magical things. That said, the idea of running a train via engineers-eye video is very cool. For a somewhat extreme example, see: Bob On Jan 12, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Jay Beckham <james@...> wrote:
I know that RailDriver can act as a throttle with JMRI. It would be neat to add a video camera on a flat car and display it on your PC or Laptop as upi ram your train on your layout using RailDriver.
Any thoughts?
Jay Beckham -- Bob Jacobsen rgj1927@...
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I have a wireless video camera built into the front of a GP7. 0 gauge 3 rail. ?Lionel TMCC. ?So I have a constant 18 vac on the rails. ?Built a ac to dc power supply with a regulated output to run the camera. ?The receiver picks up the wireless signal and outputs ntsc video. Ran that thru a video to FireWire converter, plugged that into my Mac computer running JMRI. ?I open iMovie and can display the video in a resizeable window anywhere on any of the monitors . ?
Found the cameras and video Recievers with an internet search. ?Stuff is about 10 years old so I am sure you could find better and higher resolution and small now. ?
Jim
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On Jan 12, 2019, at 10:45, Jay Beckham < james@...> wrote: I know that RailDriver can act as a throttle with JMRI.? It would be neat to add a video camera on a flat car and display it on your PC or Laptop as upi ram your train on your layout using RailDriver.
Any thoughts?
Jay Beckham
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