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Locked Re: How to terminate python script

 

Bob,? thanks for your patient response to my query.? Unfortunately, I still am not "getting it."? Would you be so kind as to make what ever changes are necessary to close the window in the following script:

import java
import javax.swing
import jarray
import jmri
class TestA(jmri.jmrit.automat.AbstractAutomaton) :
?def doClose(self,event):
??print("Close")
??# **** close command here ****
??return
??def setup(self):
??print "Setup"
??f = javax.swing.JFrame("TEST",preferredSize = (200,80))
??f.contentPane.setLayout(javax.swing.BoxLayout(f.contentPane,javax.swing.BoxLayout.Y_AXIS))
??f.setDefaultCloseOperation(javax.swing.JFrame.DISPOSE_ON_CLOSE)
??f.setLocationRelativeTo(None)
??self.relButton = javax.swing.JButton("CLOSE WINDOW")
??self.relButton.actionPerformed = self.doClose
??self.panel1 = javax.swing.JPanel(preferredSize? = (170,30))
??self.panel1.add(self.relButton)
??f.contentPane.add(self.panel1)
??f.pack()
??f.show()
??self.start()
??return
a = TestA()
a.setName("TestA Code")
a.setup()


Locked Re: Scripts

 

Dear Ken,

Our last two messages have crossed each other.

As far as I understand, I try to replace the sensor part in AutomatonExample.py by ReporterFormatter.py suggested by Paul Bender (second post in this topic). I am going to do that but being the first instance ever I write a script, I reserve the right of failure.

Thank you very much.

Yours,
????????????? Gabor


Locked Re: Scripts

 

Complement to the latter: the state of a sensor changes also when my train leaves its area; of course, this change is to be ignored, as well.


Locked Re: Scripts

 

Gabor,

So for your purpose, you would change the script to use the reporters
instead of the sensors. It would watch for the reporter to change, read it,
if it sees the matching loco, then it would do the rest of the job be it
stopping, pausing, reversing, etc... as needed.

So you are setting up reporter listeners, which watch for the loco id,
instead of the sensor listener, which watches the state of the sensor.
Should be a fairly easy job of replacing the one part with the other.

Just hope the other trains know how to stay out of the way of the train in
the script.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Scripts

 

The first alternative is the case: the (address of the) loco I want to move is known, action (stopping it and reversing its direction) is to be taken only when it gets reported by a sensor, while other possible change of sensor? state (caused by another train) is to be ignored.

Gabor


Locked Re: Operations - Somewhat complex senario - would like help

 

Thank you so much.? ?I will work on your recommendations this week and see what I get.? ?I had just started working with schedules so I will dive into this more along with your recomendation.

thanks.

John Crellin
Bradenton, FL


Locked Re: Two computers

 

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Graham
I'm assuming you're running a recent version of Windows, as I don't see any explicit list of your computer's OS or hardware.? If I'm wrong, ignore the following.

To perhaps gain insight into your problem, open task manager, go to the performance pane, and at the bottom, click on resource monitor.? Between the various task manager panes, and the resource monitor presentation, you should be able to identify where your bottleneck resides.? In particular, in Task Manager, remember that you can click at the top of each column and the column will sort in ascending or descending order, making it simple to identify the biggest performance hogs, memory hogs, disk hogs, etc.?
Blair

On 8/15/2018 7:37 AM, whmvd wrote:

Hi Graham,

The memory was just an example. It's not trivial to find out what a struggling computer is actually struggling with - and it's not necessarily the computer either. The problem could be a software limitation, network settings, antivirus activity, or, or, or...

All I was trying to say (not clearly, I realise) was that when he cause isn't clear, it's no use chucking random 'solutions' at the apparent problem. The only guarantee is that it'll cost time, effort or both, and the gain is guesswork.

If it were my problem (and I'm quite happy it isn't...) I'd start with finding tooling that analysis the performance of my computer.

Know the problem, THEN solve it.

Wouter

On 15 August 2018 at 10:23, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:
Thank you Wouter

I have added more memory but it still struggles.? Sometimes I can't use the throttles until something clears.?

Graham


On Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 10:14, whmvd <vandoornw@...> wrote:


Hello Graham,

What would interest me is what sypmtoms you've seen that make you think it's necessary. There may be more subtle ways of attacking those than the very brute force of throwing multiple computers at it. It is, for instance, usually a lot easier to add (say) memory to the computer to resolve issues than it is to get computers collaborating.

Wouter





Locked Re: New file uploaded to [email protected] - tcs-wow.zip

 

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Michael,

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That¡¯s exactly what I needed to know.

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Thanks for all your work!

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Greg Komar

gkomar@...

"Never fear shadows. They simply mean there's a light somewhere shining nearby"


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Mosher
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 4:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] New file uploaded to [email protected] - tcs-wow.zip

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Either should work for Diesel 3 or 4
But 4.13.2 has an update for all WOW decoders and first version to have the
paneWowReadMe.xml file, so if 4.13.2 then you don't really need to copy that file, it was included in zip for those with 4.12

Installing the files from the zip to 4.12 will give latest version of Wow diesel 3 & 4 but 1 & 2 and all the steam versions will be slightly out of date but the change was just adding a note indicating to turn off a couple JMRI settings.

Michael Mosher
Webmaster, ECSFM? ??????????
Member SFRH&MS????????????? 
DCC Master PVSMR??????????? 

On 8/14/2018 7:11 AM, Greg Komar wrote:

Michael,

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Better to apply this (TCS_WOW_Diesel03.xml & TCS_WOW_Diesel04.xml & paneWowReadMe.xml) to production release JMRI_v4.12+Rb6a9bb1 or the latest beta, JMRI_v4.13.2+R8a2b21d?

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Thank you very much!!

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Greg Komar

gkomar@...

"The nicest thing about the future is that it always starts immediately."


From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Notification
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2018 8:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [jmriusers] New file uploaded to [email protected]

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

File: tcs-wow.zip

Uploaded By: Michael Mosher

Description:
add quill checkboxes to diesel sound set 3 & 4.

You can access this file at the URL:
/g/jmriusers/files/Decoder%20files/TCS%20decoders/tcs-wow.zip

Cheers,
The Groups.io Team

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Locked Re: Two computers

 

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I¡¯ve found JMRI runs faster on a Raspberry PI than quite a few mid-range Windows machines.?? Theoretical CPU and memory speed says the PI is slower.? So it¡¯s probably the operating system.?

If the computer is dedicated to railway use, try booting it with a Linux boot disk/stick and see if that fixes the issues. ??Might be that going Linux for a railway computer is more cost-effective.? ??

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-????????? Nigel

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Orriss via Groups.Io
Sent: 15 August 2018 10:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Two computers

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Thank you Wouter

?

I have added more memory but it still struggles.? Sometimes I can't use the throttles until something clears.?

?

Graham

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On Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 10:14, whmvd <vandoornw@...> wrote:

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Hello Graham,

What would interest me is what sypmtoms you've seen that make you think it's necessary. There may be more subtle ways of attacking those than the very brute force of throwing multiple computers at it. It is, for instance, usually a lot easier to add (say) memory to the computer to resolve issues than it is to get computers collaborating.

Wouter

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On 14 August 2018 at 16:00, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:

Thank you Nigel.? I shall delve into this one.??

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Cheers

?

Graham

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On Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 15:27, Nigel Cliffe <nigel.cliffe@...> wrote:

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Suggested reading

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?

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The former is general purpose and might be what you need given the Elite which isn¡¯t a LocoNet based item.

?

?

-????????? Nigel

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Orriss via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 August 2018 15:05
To: JMRI Users
Subject: [jmriusers] Two computers

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Hi all,

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Is there any way of using two computers on JMRI ?? There is such a lot going on in my layout including Dispatcher.? The sensors and TowerController are run off the Loconet bus.? The trains off the Hornby Elite controller.? Could I run?the Loconet ?part on a separate laptop??

?

Thank you

?

Graham Orriss

?

?

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Locked Re: Two computers

 

Hi Graham,

The memory was just an example. It's not trivial to find out what a struggling computer is actually struggling with - and it's not necessarily the computer either. The problem could be a software limitation, network settings, antivirus activity, or, or, or...

All I was trying to say (not clearly, I realise) was that when he cause isn't clear, it's no use chucking random 'solutions' at the apparent problem. The only guarantee is that it'll cost time, effort or both, and the gain is guesswork.

If it were my problem (and I'm quite happy it isn't...) I'd start with finding tooling that analysis the performance of my computer.

Know the problem, THEN solve it.

Wouter

On 15 August 2018 at 10:23, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:
Thank you Wouter

I have added more memory but it still struggles.? Sometimes I can't use the throttles until something clears.?

Graham


On Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 10:14, whmvd <vandoornw@...> wrote:


Hello Graham,

What would interest me is what sypmtoms you've seen that make you think it's necessary. There may be more subtle ways of attacking those than the very brute force of throwing multiple computers at it. It is, for instance, usually a lot easier to add (say) memory to the computer to resolve issues than it is to get computers collaborating.

Wouter

On 14 August 2018 at 16:00, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thank you Nigel.? I shall delve into this one.??

Cheers

Graham


On Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 15:27, Nigel Cliffe <nigel.cliffe@...> wrote:


Suggested reading
?
?
?
The former is general purpose and might be what you need given the Elite which isn¡¯t a LocoNet based item.
?
?
-????????? Nigel
?
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Orriss via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 August 2018 15:05
To: JMRI Users
Subject: [jmriusers] Two computers
?
Hi all,
?
Is there any way of using two computers on JMRI ?? There is such a lot going on in my layout including Dispatcher.? The sensors and TowerController are run off the Loconet bus.? The trains off the Hornby Elite controller.? Could I run?the Loconet ?part on a separate laptop??
?
Thank you
?
Graham Orriss







Locked Re: Scripts

 

I think what you are asking about would be like backandforth, but with the
addition of it listening for the sensor first, but then checking the
reporter to see if the right loco is reporting. Or is the idea that you
don't have to tell the script which loco to run? Here it would watch the
sensors, and when one went active, it would read the reporter and pick up
the loco id. Then it would open the throttle and run that loco back and
forth?

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org


Locked Re: Scripts

 

Any further information or questions will be appreciated

I appreciate your patience with an outsider like me.

Many JMRI users run scripts without understanding the internal workings, only the results.

I don't mind, either, if I mistake, say, a command for a definition but basically I must follow what is going on in the examples for I want to build up my program from elements taken from them. I cannot expect of anyone to write it for me (and rewrite it each time I make a change). I feel that I could make such a use of AutomatonExample and its refinement, but your example seemed to me too long and complicated at first sight to do this.

I am sorry that this small step does not seem to help get some progress toward your goal.

However, I didn't say that! I just wanted to make sure whether or not we are speaking about the same thing.
Total of four sensors for two trains, or six sensors for three trains.
Arriving at this point of reading made me feel that we were misunderstanding each other

Also, I thought that I understood that you wanted the ability to take advantage of your RailCom sensors and decoders to allow other trains to cross into or just through one of those routes without causing a false trigger to the back and forth train running in the same region.

but we seem to be understanding each other, after all.

So, let me start from scratch. There is a single loco I want to move back and forth between two blocks. No other train can touch its route. The only intrusion can occur in either of the terminal blocks that can accommodate another train, but physically these blocks are long enough to cause any collision.

A RailCom current sensing detector is attached to each of these terminal blocks. (Actually, the two blocks could be connected together electrically and a single detector would suffice provided we know where my train is at program start but let's not complicate matters).

Can your example handle this situation? If so, I am going to make a more thorough effort to grasp it. You may facilitate my effort by pointing out part of the script where the sensor reporter, also referred to by Paul in the second of this series of posts, is used to trigger the change of movement of my train ignoring, however, whether or not another train enters, stays or leaves there.

Gabor


Locked Re: Two computers

Graham Orriss
 

Thank you Wouter

I have added more memory but it still struggles.? Sometimes I can't use the throttles until something clears.?

Graham


On Wednesday, 15 August 2018, 10:14, whmvd <vandoornw@...> wrote:


Hello Graham,

What would interest me is what sypmtoms you've seen that make you think it's necessary. There may be more subtle ways of attacking those than the very brute force of throwing multiple computers at it. It is, for instance, usually a lot easier to add (say) memory to the computer to resolve issues than it is to get computers collaborating.

Wouter

On 14 August 2018 at 16:00, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:
Thank you Nigel.? I shall delve into this one.??

Cheers

Graham


On Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 15:27, Nigel Cliffe <nigel.cliffe@...> wrote:


Suggested reading
?
?
?
The former is general purpose and might be what you need given the Elite which isn¡¯t a LocoNet based item.
?
?
-????????? Nigel
?
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Orriss via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 August 2018 15:05
To: JMRI Users
Subject: [jmriusers] Two computers
?
Hi all,
?
Is there any way of using two computers on JMRI ?? There is such a lot going on in my layout including Dispatcher.? The sensors and TowerController are run off the Loconet bus.? The trains off the Hornby Elite controller.? Could I run?the Loconet ?part on a separate laptop??
?
Thank you
?
Graham Orriss






Locked Re: Two computers

 

Hello Graham,

What would interest me is what sypmtoms you've seen that make you think it's necessary. There may be more subtle ways of attacking those than the very brute force of throwing multiple computers at it. It is, for instance, usually a lot easier to add (say) memory to the computer to resolve issues than it is to get computers collaborating.

Wouter

On 14 August 2018 at 16:00, Graham Orriss via Groups.Io <graham.orriss@...> wrote:
Thank you Nigel.? I shall delve into this one.??

Cheers

Graham


On Tuesday, 14 August 2018, 15:27, Nigel Cliffe <nigel.cliffe@...> wrote:


Suggested reading
?
?
?
The former is general purpose and might be what you need given the Elite which isn¡¯t a LocoNet based item.
?
?
-????????? Nigel
?
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Graham Orriss via Groups.Io
Sent: 14 August 2018 15:05
To: JMRI Users
Subject: [jmriusers] Two computers
?
Hi all,
?
Is there any way of using two computers on JMRI ?? There is such a lot going on in my layout including Dispatcher.? The sensors and TowerController are run off the Loconet bus.? The trains off the Hornby Elite controller.? Could I run?the Loconet ?part on a separate laptop??
?
Thank you
?
Graham Orriss




Locked Re: 2 way working on single track - signals

 

Your tip to place direction sensors on the layout worked a treat and after some forensic debugging have now solved the signalling issues.? Thanks very much for your help.

Peter


Locked Re: Operations - Somewhat complex senario - would like help

 

John,

An alternative to only allowing non "E" or "L"? on the barge is to use the the destination tool to "Only allow cars with a final destination" for the barge C/I tracks.? This method would eliminate the need for custom loads.? Your industry schedules would only demand a certain car type, custom loads would be optional.



Dan


Locked Re: Operations - Somewhat complex senario - would like help

 

Hi John,

You want your cars to move with purpose rather than just random movement.? In your configuration, the program will grab the first 10 cars from your storage track with the lowest moves, drop them off to the barge, and hope there's places for them to go to.? What you need is for your industries to demand certain cars.? ?That can be done using schedules.



To generate the loads and destinations for your industries, you would make your storage "staging" tracks.? It can be one large one with all of your cars, or if you use boxes, one staging track per box. Place all of your "storage" boxes in one location, we'll call it "Storage" for now.? The route for the train that services the "Storage" and barge looks like this"

Storage -> barge -> Storage

Set up the train to allow cars to return back to storage if they can't find room on the barge.? So for example, say you have 50 cars in storage, the program will try and find 10 cars to place on the barge that have destinations on the layout, and return the other 40 back to storage.? If the barge has 10 cars on it, the program will try and pull all 10 back into storage, effectively swapping the cars on the barge for you.? You should configure the barge C/I tracks to only accept cars with custom loads, this will prevent cars from being placed randomly onto the barge. The best way to do this is to exclude the "E" and "L" default loads for your barge tracks.

Let us know if you get it to work!

Dan


Locked Signal Masts and Signal Mast Logic vs SSL

 

Hi,
I have a couple of panels with the, apparently older, SSL type signaling logic set up. Works OK for just running trains around manually. In looking at the instructions for signal masts and signal mast logic there was a statement to not use SSL and Signal mast constructs in the same panel. So if I want to use Dispatcher for example do I need to delete the SSL content?
Thanks,

Allen


Locked Re: Decoder Pro Manual ?

 

So Question 1 is... how current are the help files?? are they at the last production release level... or at the current development release... or at some unspecified or mishmash of releases?

The help files kept locally (to your PC) are the version of the help files that correspond to the software you have.? ?The files on the web site are kept current to the latest software (maybe even newer than the most recent test release).
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Question 2 is... Why can't we just have one of our guru developers produce a script that takes the Help File contents web page as input and prints the entries to a PDF file?? Is it because of imbeded hyperlinks?

That's a non-trivial project for a couple of reasons.? ?The biggest one being that what makes a good help file entry doesn't necessarily make for a good linear format book.? When I want to learn a language, I don't start with the dictionary.? ?I'll keep one around, because I'll use it.? ?But the process of understanding syntax and meaning goes beyond a definition.? ?Help file entries are much closer to a reference definition of what a thing does than to a textual explanation of how something ought to be used.

There's also a purely mechanical issue of making something cobbled together in that fashion usable (with an index, or table of contents).? ?That's hard too.? ?


david zuhn



--
The State Belt Railway of California
zoo @


Locked Re: Decoder Pro Manual ?

 

Well I have avoided this conversation so far because I am a neanderthal who can't stand reading on a backlit screen.? I despise Kindle and Zinio. I buy discount/used hardcopies of the current? best sellers,? because I can feel the book and I can turn the pages, and I don't have to have Internet access to read it!!! I have printed copies of a version 2.x and version 3.x Decoder Pro manuals in fancy binders on the bookshelf in my trainroom.

So Question 1 is... how current are the help files?? are they at the last production release level... or at the current development release... or at some unspecified or mishmash of releases?

Question 2 is... Why can't we just have one of our guru developers produce a script that takes the Help File contents web page as input and prints the entries to a PDF file?? Is it because of imbeded hyperlinks?

This is not bashing... as I am a loyal JMRI user and supporter going back to the earliest days. Just some of us very senior citizens like to sit on the back deck in the late afternoon with a good scotch while reading and making notes on a hard copy manual.

Thanks to all for all the hard work.

Lou DeHayes