Most if not all the needed information is in the help files which are part of the JMRI download. The developers try to keep them up to date. Having separate manuals is a lot of work and would require a volunteer to spend a lot of time on. I personally don't see as being useful.

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??? I changed the design of the detectors.? I took off the rubber based insulation (I put on) and totally painted the "LED? package" except for the top.? I angled the "LED package" a little.? The test cars were a black tank car and a black bottomed box car.
??? Latter may take a picture if anyone if interested.

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Gents,

??? The subject issue: NCE Power Pro, serial port RS232 connected to PC windows 10 works normally.? Older JMRI version not updated recently.? I have plugged the RS-232 to USB into PC with no positive results, and have not attempted to trouble shoot at this time.

The Problem: I am attempting to use said Power Pro connecting to Macbook Pro 2.7 Core i7.? JmRI Ver 4.12+Rb6u9bb1, java 1.8.0_171(en_US).

Per Dave Heap for the NCE users group emails, software/updates, Silabs usbdriver disk.dmg, Trendnet TU-S9 software, Mac.os.vcp_driver.zip,? have been downloaded & installed.? The cable is from the desktop to a Trendnet TU-S9 RS232 to USB.

I suspect the Trendnet is the culprit in the laptop not communicating to the Power Pro.? I have been through all the preferences:

NCE

System Mfr - NCE

System connection - Serial

Serial Port choice - Choices are None/cu.Bluetooth-incoming.port/TTy.Bluetooth-incomming-port (none work)

Connection prefix - N

Connection Name - NCE

Baud rate - 9600

Eprom - 2006 or later

Any ideas out there?

Thanks

Ron B

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JMRI has so many facets you’ll need a manual to use the manual… LOL.

Looks like JMRI needs to incorporate more user manual builders so they can keep up with the roadrunner pace.
Why don't you start with a cut off date, say in January, and anything new to the user manual after that has to wait a year to get updated for the next upgrade whereby a new manual is created? Once a year user manuals. Is that a doable idea?

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Did attachments shown up?

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

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Jon Miller

For me time stopped in 1941

Digitrax? Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User

SPROG User

NMRA Life member #2623

Member SFRH&MS

To set the stage, I use a Laptop WIN 7 machine with a SPROG II connection for programming which has worked fine in the past.? Since I hadn't fired it up in over a year? I decided to upgrade to the latest version.? After download and install of v 4.12 when I opened it I was directed immediately to the Roster page without the usual preferences/ intro panel being shown.? When I attempted to open up and program one of my roster locos I could not do it (either by the Program button or double clicking on my roster selection). I believe the SPROG is configured right (COM4 on my machine) and the drivers seem to be up to date. I have uninstalled and reinstalled 4.12 at least 3 times, with the same result.? I finally decided to try 4.13.2, but when I open the program now it takes me to a "DecoderPro: All Entries" panel with a "Getting Started" display with instructions on how to enter a new loco, which is NOT what I want to do - I just want to modify a few CVs on some of my existing locos.? I'm afraid I have exhausted my ideas on what is going on here.? Any ideas?
Thanks,

Dave

I have been trying to get JMRI to work with my NCE Power Pro. Been working with NCE Tools menu and not having much luck. Backup Marco can not get to work error out all the time. Consist back to. Clock function works sometimes.
below is the log info:
2018-08-13 13:19:15,123 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - * JMRI log ** [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:15,123 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is appended to file: C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\log\messages.log [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:15,138 util.Log4JUtil??????????????????????? INFO? - This log is stored in file: C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\log\session.log [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:15,138 apps.AppsBase???????????????????????? INFO? - DecoderPro version 4.13.2+R8a2b21d starts under Java 1.8.0_181 on Windows 10 x86 v10.0 at Mon Aug 13 13:19:15 EDT 2018 [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:15,326 gui3.Apps3??????????????????????????? INFO? - Starting with profile VRS.3f2aa93f [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:15,561 node.NodeIdentity???????????????????? INFO? - Using jmri-nq5ZVb1RbhNiaasojedU87-3f2aa93f as the JMRI Node identity [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-08-13 13:19:15,670 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE" [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:15,701 xml.AbstractSerialConnectionConfigXml INFO? - Starting to connect for "NCE2" [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,545 serialdriver.SerialDriverAdapter????? INFO? - NCE COM6 port opened at 9600 baud [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,654 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? INFO? - NCE EPROM revision = 6.2.0 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,764 nce.NceConnectionStatus?????????????? WARN? - Detected 2007 March EPROM which doesn't provide reliable MONITORING feedback for turnouts [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path program: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\ [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path preference: is C:\Users\Robert\Documents\JMRI\Vermont_Rail_System\ [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path profile: is C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\VRS\ [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path settings: is C:\Users\Robert\JMRI\ [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,873 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path home: is C:\Users\Robert\ [main]
2018-08-13 13:19:16,889 util.FileUtilSupport????????????????? INFO? - File path scripts: is C:\Program Files (x86)\JMRI\jython\ [main]
2018-08-13 13:22:20,770 throttle.ThrottleCreationAction?????? ERROR - No default throttle layout, creating an empty throttle window [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-08-13 13:27:41,330 throttle.ThrottleCreationAction?????? ERROR - No default throttle layout, creating an empty throttle window [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-08-13 13:32:16,750 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: 8F C9 8C consecutive timeouts = 0 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2018-08-13 13:32:16,953 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - sendMessage: Exception: In jmri.jmrix.nce.NceTrafficController port warn:? [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
java.io.IOException
?at purejavacomm.PureJavaSerialPort$1.write(PureJavaSerialPort.java:642)
?at java.io.DataOutputStream.write(Unknown Source)
?at java.io.FilterOutputStream.write(Unknown Source)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.forwardToPort(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:692)
?at jmri.jmrix.nce.NceTrafficController.forwardToPort(NceTrafficController.java:494)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.transmitLoop(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:478)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController$1.run(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:773)
?at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
2018-08-13 13:32:16,953 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? ERROR - run: Exception: java.io.IOException in class jmri.jmrix.nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Receive thread]
java.io.IOException
?at purejavacomm.PureJavaSerialPort$2.read(PureJavaSerialPort.java:887)
?at java.io.DataInputStream.read(Unknown Source)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.readByteProtected(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:947)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.loadChars(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:978)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.handleOneIncomingReply(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:1050)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.receiveLoop(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:873)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController$2.run(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:797)
?at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
2018-08-13 13:32:16,968 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? ERROR - Exit from rcv loop in class jmri.jmrix.nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Receive thread]
2018-08-13 13:32:26,980 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? WARN? - Timeout on reply to message: AA consecutive timeouts = 1 in nce.NceTrafficController [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
2018-08-13 13:32:27,187 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController???? ERROR - Transmit thread terminated prematurely by: java.lang.NullPointerException [nce.NceTrafficController Transmit thread]
java.lang.NullPointerException
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.getPortName(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:821)
?at jmri.jmrix.nce.NceConnectionStatus.nceEpromPoll(NceConnectionStatus.java:133)
?at jmri.jmrix.nce.NceTrafficController.pollMessage(NceTrafficController.java:430)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController.transmitLoop(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:473)
?at jmri.jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController$1.run(AbstractMRTrafficController.java:773)
?at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
2018-08-13 13:32:38,969 macro.NceMacroBackup????????????????? ERROR - read timeout [Macro Backup]

Bob Cochran

Dave,

Your solution sure works. I didn’t read enough of the documentation before turning to the user group.

Thanks very much for your expert help.

Patrick W.

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Also, I cleaned the F3's wheels and the programming track.

Patrick,

The problem is that you are trying to open the throttle XML as a panel xml file. That is causing the errors.

To open a throttle xml file, go to "Tools >> Throttles >> Open Throttles Layout”. This will display the throttles that have been saved in the user files location “throttle" directory. This is the normal location when you save a throttle.

See for more information about throttles and throttle layouts.


Dave Sand

I'm having a similar problem with reading Paragon 3 decoders. I use a 2' programming track with a Sprog II and a Digitrax PR3. They are isolated from each other with a rotary switch. I have DecoderPro 4.12 installed.? I recently bought a new BLI N scale F3 with a Paragon 3. I tried to go through the New Loco process using the Sprog to read it, but kept getting a 'No Locomotive detected' error using the automatic decoder reading function. I tried to manually tell it that it was a BLI Paragon 3 Rolling Thunder, but got the same error. Thought there might be a problem with the Sprog so I switched over to the PR3 and got the same error. So then I thought I had a major problem with the loco and put it on the main, which uses a Digitrax DB150 (2' x 5' track) and the Digitrax throttle. It read it fine and I was able to reprogram the loco address and move some functions around without a problem. I went through all of the various recent emails and made sure that DecoderPro was not set to Local, I was on the right programmer and the Preferences Connections and Default,etc. were set correctly. I was able to run 3 other non-Paragon trains on the programming track using both the Sprog and the PR3.
My guess is after all of this is that neither the Sprog II or PR3 has enough power to run the Paragon 3 decoder. Any other thoughts?

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Also I tried installing the test release of JMRI, v. 4.13.2, but it gave the same error message. I don’t know how verify the hash checksums of the download to make sure the install file is not corrupted.

Patrick W.

Dave,

I open the throttle panel from the main PanelPro window. PanelPro / Panels / Open Panel… / Documents / My JMRI / Throttle 072318. The file location for Throttle 072318 is in a new folder called My JMRI in my main Documents directory under my user name on the C drive.

?

I tried saving and opening a throttle in the default location My JMRI Railroad under my user name, but it gave the same error message. I open the Throttle from Panel Pro / Panels / Open Panel…

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Thanks,

Patrick W.

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Don't think white is the best choice because of reflections

??? Agree.? In the photo below the IR detectors? work just fine. The wall/ceiling is at a greater angle and closer for these detectors then the one at the gates.?

??? In the photo below the IR detectors won't work.?

??? Also note IR floods I had previously installed for another test.? They are not on now but did turn them on once.? They totally flood the detectors and if I change high/low outputs they might work with just the detector part of the module. ? [this requires testing as cars on one track may block the detectors on the other track]

??? The glossy white paint was put on to see if above reflection would help, it didn't.

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Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

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Don't think white is the best choice because of reflections

??? Agree.? In the photo below the IR detectors? work just fine. The wall/ceiling is at a greater angle and closer for these detectors then the one at the gates.?

??? In the photo below the IR detectors won't work.?

??? Also note IR floods I had previously installed for another test.? They are not on now but did turn them on once.? They totally flood the detectors and if I change high/low outputs they might work with just the detector part of the module. ? [this requires testing as cars on one track may block the detectors on the other track]

??? The glossy white paint was put on to see if above reflection would help, it didn't.

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS