Re the NX issue, I think I have just worked it out. I have found the options that set how the route will behave if you re-select it. So I think I'm OK with it. Just curious as to why the right click option isn't around more.
Daarren
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Thanks for that Dave, I have loaded your panel and low and behold all the logix is there and working. Once again thanks.
On a side note I have NX routes for a part of my panel. These routes set when I click on the entry exit sensors, however there is now no right click menu to allow me to cancel the route. Is this something new with the 4.11.3 release?
Darren
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Hello Dave,
Thanks for the reply and your help.
I did have a look at the link you gave me, but unfortunately using the 640 interface unit is needed for the 511 or earlier, but the unit is not needed with the 611 as this, I am told by ZTC, has the direct computer connection USB port (via the cable I mentioned in the last email) so the 640 interface is not required.
With everything tried so far and getting absolutely nowhere, I think I will wait for ZTC to reply as I suspect that the problem lies within the unit itself - jmri recognises the unit but with any commands sent there, it is not playing ball.
Unless anyone out there has a 611 command station and knows an answer - or anyone can throw light on this, would be much appreciated.
Regards, GeoffB
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On Tuesday, 6 March 2018, 10:41:35 GMT, Dave Heap dgheap@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? See below: On 6 Mar 2018, at 8:55 PM, Geoff Byman gbrails@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
The decoders did state "massoth" on read from decoder and when the correct decoder was selected I did notice that it read "15227". As a new user, I'm starting to learn where and what all the errors are!!
Yes, the preferences did read as internal for the service and ops programmers. I just tried altering the service and ops mode programmers in preferences/defaults to xpressnet but no difference except that when clicked on "read from decoder" the error message came up one time as "communication error PC to command station - error 311" and when I tried it again came up with "requested operation not implemented in command station - error 303". That is a huge change from where you were. You have gone from taking to a dummy programmer to attempting to talk to a real DCC system programmer. Since you mention ZTC and XpressNet, I'll bow out of advising here as these are outside my area of experience. But others will be able to help. We've also got some information here: <> I tried then by selecting the decoder - TCS-T1 - from the drop down and then clicked read and the address lines went red and the error message was the "311" followed immediately by the "303" message, flicked a couple of times between the two, then settled on 303 - couldn't make it's mind up? I have unplugged a replugged the cable into both the PC and the command station and tried another usb port - all of which didn't alter things. I know the cable is OK as it is the one I use on my scanner, which I have used successfully a few times since I've been having the problems with JMRI.
I've rung ZTC and they say that they will have to investigate at their end. See above. You need to find a solution to the communication problems. One thing I did notice every time I installed a fresh JMRI (and on the original installation too) was that the installation went all the way to "installed - JMRI uninstall" and then hung and the next buttons, etc were grayed out. I left it for over 15 mins but nothing changed so I then stopped the programme in task manager. Perhaps something is not installing correct ly? That is a cause for concern. I'm guessing an antivirus protection program is preventing the final steps. Disable protection and try again. 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John,
Where do I find these sound files so that I may select the correct file?
Regards,Dick
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On Tuesday, March 6, 2018, 8:45:44 AM EST, jonie41 jonie41 jonie41@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: ? The OEM decoder comes with a basic sound file installed for testing. You need to select the sound file particular to your loco. After that you need a LokProgrammer to install the file. You'll have contact the dealer and inquire if he is able to load the sound file. If your retailer did not offer to install the file, he most likely does not have a LokProgrammer. In the files section in the LokSound group, there is a list of folks with a LokProgrammer that are willing to help. You may live close to a listee. Good luck. John ---------- Original Message ----------
From: "dick_mckibben@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
Date: March 6, 2018 at 7:10 AM
Decoder Pro has identified my new decoder as a Loksound OEM select decoder.
It does not give me the option to change prime mover sounds. I have also
been unable to change the prime mover sound by various changes I have made to
CV 48. Does this mean that I have only one prime mover sound with this
decoder?
Dick McKibben
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Re: How can I identify which TSU-1000 Tsunami is installed in my loc
You can identify it for sure by removing the shrinkwrap and checking the
number that will be written on the processor chip. That should be the last
two digits of the serial number. There's no warrantly any more on a
TSU-1000 so no issues there. When you reassemble it, don't forget the
heatsink and pad and do it up in some new heatshrink - and write the
details on the outside!
However, you can do it less intrusively
- two wires at the tail end for the speaker = diesel. 3 wires with
one just off-white = steam (it's the chuff cam wire)
- wire it to a motor and speaker, then (steam) listen to the
whistles, select different choices, and see if you can tell which you
have. Airhorn on one of them makes it the Southern Pacific for sure.
- diesel, listen to the prime mover and see if you can tell (this
one is a lot harder - and may well come down to checking the processor).
Or just use it anyway - they're still fine decoders - in something that
you feel matches the sound it makes. Rule #1 applies!
Mick
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Re: Can't access tables
Ken,
According to my documentation, the 0x9B yy (short form AIU status) command is supported by by the V7.x.x/V1.65B combination.
The 0x8A yy (long form AIU status) command is not.
Although I unfortunately don't own an AIU to test with, my V7.3.7/V1.65B Power Cab combination does respond to 0x9B yy with two bytes of data (not surprisingly 00 00). It ignores an 0x8A yy command.
If someone has an AIU and V7.3.7/V1.65B system, they could test this with the NCE Command Monitor and Send NCE Binary Command windows in JMRI. The "yy" is the cab bus (hex) address of the AIU you are interrogating.
Since only the short form is supported, you can get current status, but not whether a particular input has changed since last read.
--
Dave in Australia
The New England Convention 2018
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On 7 Mar 2018, at 2:28 PM, 'Ken Cameron' kcameron@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
AIU readback isn't supported in the PowerCab/SB3/SB5/Twin series of systems.
There wasn't enough room in the memory for it to hold that information.
Only the PowerPro command station (CS02) supports letting JMRI know what the
AIU devices are seeing.
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Darren,
I have uploaded an updated panel xml to the same folder as "Cann River 7.4 DS.xml". All of the Logix and Conditional system names have IX added to the front. IX is the standard prefix for Logix.
I was not able to actually test anything since I don¡¯t have your custom components, but I did not see any Logix related errors.
Dave Sand
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On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:59 PM, Dave Sand <dave@...> wrote:
Darren,
I will take a look at it.
Dave Sand
On Mar 6, 2018, at 10:54 PM, deejf@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:
Hi Ken, my xml file Cann River 7.4 is in the folder 'Programs being worked on' sub folder 'Darren French'
If one of the guru's could check out the issue that would be great.
Thanks,
Darren
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Darren,
I will take a look at it.
Dave Sand
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Hi Ken, my xml file Cann River 7.4 is in the folder 'Programs being worked on' sub folder 'Darren French'
If one of the guru's could check out the issue that would be great.
Thanks,
Darren
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Hi Ken, my xml file Cann River 7.4 is in the folder 'Programs being worked on' sub folder 'Darren French'
If one of the guru's could check out the issue that would be great.
Thanks,
Darren
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Darren,
The issue was old systems didn't force the system name for Logix to conform
to a pattern. We now do require it. I suspect it will be a minor fix to your
panel file. The simplest way is if we could see the file and manually fix
it. So if you can post it to the group space under 'Problems being worked
on' one of us can spot and fix it. Editing the XML file is not something we
suggest but sometimes resort to ourselves. It is way too easy to mess up the
file.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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On 3/5/2018 9:46 PM, rod@... [jmriusers] wrote: When I try to identify the decoder with DecoderPro, all I get is the following: "Multiple possible Decoders detected - Manually select for the highlighted Decoders or Family", with a highlighted list of over 180 SoundTraxx decoders!
So how do I confirm which TSU-1000 decoder it is? Is it listed in a specific CV? If so, which one and will it just be a CV code number and not the actual SoundTraxx's part number? I had a similar issue with a BLI NW2 with built-in QSI decoder. JMRI listed 3 possible decoders used in that engine, with different firmware revisions. I had no way of telling so chose the latest revision, but that may not be correct since I bought the loco second hand. -- Rick Jones War is expensive. Peace is priceless.
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Hi all, I have been following the can't access tables thread and seem to have a similar issue with logix.
I am running JMRI 4.11.3 and when I open up my panel file, then select tools I can see the logixs tab. When I select it I get the turnouts tab and the logix tab disappears.
I have just started my panel and watched the console to see what was happening. There are a lot of logix errors which never posed a problem when running 4.6.
The console log for the logix errors is shown here and I am hoping someone can enlighten me to what is causing the problem. I believe it will be a naming convention issue but I am not sure what to look for.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Darren
2018-03-07 14:35:21,316 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "G" assembleListenerList DELETING GC5 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,317 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "G" assembleListenerList DELETING GC2 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,317 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "G" assembleListenerList DELETING GC4 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,317 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "G" assembleListenerList DELETING GC7 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,317 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "G" assembleListenerList DELETING GC9 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,321 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - GC1 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,321 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - GC3 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,321 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - GC6 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,322 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - GC8 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,330 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'G', Conditional index name = 'GC1' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,330 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'G', Conditional index name = 'GC3' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,330 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'G', Conditional index name = 'GC6' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,331 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'G', Conditional index name = 'GC8' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,349 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "N" assembleListenerList DELETING NC1 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,350 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "N" assembleListenerList DELETING NC3 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,350 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - NC2 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,350 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'N', Conditional index name = 'NC2' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,407 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "S" assembleListenerList DELETING SC1 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,407 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "S" assembleListenerList DELETING SC3 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,408 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "S" assembleListenerList DELETING SC2 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,408 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "S" assembleListenerList DELETING SC7 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,408 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - invalid conditional system name in Logix "S" assembleListenerList DELETING SC9 from Conditional list. [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,408 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - SC4 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,408 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - SC5 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,408 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - SC6 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,409 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - Invalid conditional system name when calculating Logix - SC8 [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,413 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'S', Conditional index name = 'SC4' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,413 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'S', Conditional index name = 'SC5' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,413 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'S', Conditional index name = 'SC6' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
2018-03-07 14:35:21,413 implementation.DefaultLogix ERROR - setGuiNames: Missing conditional for Logix index entry, Logix name = 'S', Conditional index name = 'SC8' [AWT-EventQueue-0]
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Hi,
I just installed a Digitrax DH126PS decoder and used DecoderPro to
program it. All went great except for setting up the BEMF (what
Digitrax calls Speed Stabilization). Now the Digitrax web site has
conflicting information on whether the DH126 supports BEMF. It's not
called out the features list, and they say the economy series 6
decoders don't have BEMF. On the otherhand, the specifications say it
supports CVs 55, 56, and 57.
I looked at the decoder definition, Digitrax_Economy_Series6.xml, and
saw that the include for bemf.xml is commented out. Just for fun, I
edited the definition and included bemf.xml. I then reprogrammed the
BEMF configuration and the loco responded as expected. The effect was
very noticeable at slow speed when I used F5 to turn speed compensation
off and on. I conclude my specific DH126 does have BEMF.
Where should I save my updated definition? If I read the JMRI docs
right, it should be ~/.jmri/decoders/Digitrax_Economy_Series6.xml,
right?
How widespread is BEMF in the DH126 decoders? Maybe the definitions
should be merged back into Digitrax_01x6.xml.
Jim
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Re: Fw: Re: Re: Can't access tables
Harold,
AIU readback isn't supported in the PowerCab/SB3/SB5/Twin series of systems.
There wasn't enough room in the memory for it to hold that information.
Only the PowerPro command station (CS02) supports letting JMRI know what the
AIU devices are seeing.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Ted,
Having CMRI won't interfere with the tables. You should be able to start
JMRI, not loading any panels, and open the tables. Have you followed the
directions to conclude if you do or don't have the audio library bug? That's
where you would find a very small empty window when you select the tables in
the 'Window' menu. If you leave your system alone for a long time, like an
hour or even overnight, it will eventually open and display the tables.
But to simulate, I need to know what CMRI nodes you had so I can set my
configuration the same.
-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com
www.syracusemodelrr.org
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Re: JMRI Web Server and multiple IP addresses
To all, first, thank you for all the responses. Tonight, during our monthly session, after I sent the email and while running a bunch of stuff, I got a java error which deteriorated the virtual throttle, to run warrants, and during dinner, I restarted JMRI. Following the email from Randall, I did not go through the procedure I described earlier, but instead just launched JMRI, then the Web Server. I then loaded the panel file, and when all was up, I went and checked the tablet (which was still connected to the same IP:port as earlier). To my surprise, the tablet worked, throwing the turnout, signal and TOB. So it looks like that indeed the server connected to both IP (unless of course I got lucky, 50 50) Anyway, for now we will finish the session (10pm west coast), with still lots of trains to be run. Cheers LeoP On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:52 PM, rbucklew rbucklew@... [jmriusers] < jmriusers@...> wrote:
Leo,
Sounds like your process is similar to mine. The Quaker Valley RR has a
Dlink wifi router in the train room which is not connected to the internet.
I pull the plug on the connection to the house (cable modem and internet)
and then start the railroad PC and JMRI. Being it only sees the wifi
railroad router, that is where the Withrottle and Webserver connect. If
needed, I can then reconnect the cable and get outside internet connection.
Operators in the railroad room have connection to the JMRI servers, but no
internet. I only have the one PC, so do not have the roster share issue you
are describing. I do have the two routers on separate IP address. I think
they are 192.168.0.100 and 192.168.1.100, but could be wrong. Don't go
under the hood too often.
Bob Bucklew
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From: "JMRI users yahoo" <jmriusers@...>
To: "JMRI users yahoo" <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 3:15:46 PM
Subject: [jmriusers] JMRI Web Server and multiple IP addresses
Hello all,
In a multiple IP address environment, where the computer has multiple
connections and multiple IP addresses, I would like to know when one
launches the JMRI Web Server and/or the WIThrottle server, how does it know
which IP address to choose, is it random, first found, smaller number? etc.
The house I am in there is one main router for all computers. We also run a
wifi tablet to run a tower panel for one turnout and a couple of train
order boards and one signal. The wifi in the train room is very feeble. I
installed a second router in the train room with its own wifi, and this one
is used mostly for wifi throttles, and this one tablet.
The issue is that in order to make it work, I have to disable the ethernet
connection, have the wifi up to the train room router, launch JMRI, start
the web server and withrottle server, then enable the ethernet.
At this point all is well but one thing. We also share the roster from one
computer, so it could be accessed from others around the layout. But JMRI
having started with that share off (being the ethernet connection
disabled), cannot see the share, even after reenabling the ethernet
connection and refreshing explorer to see the share contents.
Catch 22.
In the Preferences, for both servers, there are entries to select the port
to be used. Would it be possible to add which IP to use? (as a new feature)
Thank you
Leo P
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Re: JMRI Web Server and multiple IP addresses
Leo,
Sounds like your process is similar to mine. The Quaker Valley RR has a Dlink wifi router in the train room which is not connected to the internet. I pull the plug on the connection to the house (cable modem and internet) and then start the railroad PC and JMRI. Being it only sees the wifi railroad router, that is where the Withrottle and Webserver connect. If needed, I can then reconnect the cable and get outside internet connection. Operators in the railroad room have connection to the JMRI servers, but no internet. I only have the one PC, so do not have the roster share issue you are describing. I do have the two routers on separate IP address. I think they are 192.168.0.100 and 192.168.1.100, but could be wrong. Don't go under the hood too often.
Bob Bucklew
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From: "JMRI users yahoo" <jmriusers@...>
To: "JMRI users yahoo" <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 3:15:46 PM
Subject: [jmriusers] JMRI Web Server and multiple IP addresses
Hello all,
In a multiple IP address environment, where the computer has multiple
connections and multiple IP addresses, I would like to know when one
launches the JMRI Web Server and/or the WIThrottle server, how does it know
which IP address to choose, is it random, first found, smaller number? etc.
The house I am in there is one main router for all computers. We also run a
wifi tablet to run a tower panel for one turnout and a couple of train
order boards and one signal. The wifi in the train room is very feeble. I
installed a second router in the train room with its own wifi, and this one
is used mostly for wifi throttles, and this one tablet.
The issue is that in order to make it work, I have to disable the ethernet
connection, have the wifi up to the train room router, launch JMRI, start
the web server and withrottle server, then enable the ethernet.
At this point all is well but one thing. We also share the roster from one
computer, so it could be accessed from others around the layout. But JMRI
having started with that share off (being the ethernet connection
disabled), cannot see the share, even after reenabling the ethernet
connection and refreshing explorer to see the share contents.
Catch 22.
In the Preferences, for both servers, there are entries to select the port
to be used. Would it be possible to add which IP to use? (as a new feature)
Thank you
Leo P
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Re: How can I identify which TSU-1000 Tsunami is installed in my loco?
You can't with Soundtraxx decoders prior to the Tsunami 2 and Econami.? In the earlier decoders, there is not any CV to uniquely identify which exact model and sound set it is.
Soundtraxx ID info:
Michael Mosher
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On 3/5/2018 10:46 PM, rod@... [jmriusers] wrote: When I try to identify the decoder with DecoderPro, all I get is the following: "Multiple possible Decoders detected - Manually select for the highlighted Decoders or Family", with a highlighted list of over 180 SoundTraxx decoders!
So how do I confirm which TSU-1000 decoder it is? Is it listed in a specific CV? If so, which one and will it just be a CV code number and not the actual SoundTraxx's part number?
Any help would be appreciated.
Rod Souza
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Re: Operations: Creating a passenger train questions
Please post your build report in very detailed mode and we'll figure out why your passenger cars aren't being picked up.
Dan
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Ted,
If what you want are some examples for sending and receiving text through the USB connection between an Arduino and your JMRI computer, a good starting place is in the downloaded folder with the IDE software. For a Win10 computer that would be "C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\examples\08.Strings"
For more options, look at
Check the information found at:
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for a wealth of information.
If you have some other constraints that are driving your query please provide us with some more information.
Cliff Anderson in Baja SoCal
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