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Terry: to find out what is causing the problem you are seeing i developers would need to know how you have things set up. If you do not want to give that information on how things are set up what is going wrong can not be found.
 Walt

Re: Slot monitor is blank

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#139124

Walt thanks for your help but I'm tired of messing with this
So i'll just use DP with out the Slot monitor

Ive upgraded a dozen times in the past and never made any changes to My settings and the slot monitor
worked fine

 Why would it change on its own this time ??????????????????????????

Ive also complained many times in the past about the factory reset not working for Wow Decoders

NO FIXES TO DATE!!!!!

So now i just use  my Zephyr in blast mode>>>>IT WORKS>>DP DOES NOT

Terry
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From: walter.stanley.thompson.3@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers <jmriusers@...>
Sent: Sun, Aug 13, 2017 8:41 am
Subject: [jmriusers] Re: Slot monitor is blank

Terry: We need to get answers to how things are set, "made no change" does not tell  how they set..
 Walt

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Re: Roco Zimo decoder question

#139122

Hi Thomas 

 If identifying the decoder model doesn't give you anything, it could be that your new BR85 has got an MX645P22 with the latest SW release 37 (version number is stored in CV7). This new release is not detected by current version 4.8 (July release) or 4.9.1 (July test release).
 
 Thus:
 >>> Either just add you lok using the MX645P22 from the Version 32 Plus family
 >>> Or wait for test version 4.9.2 which will detect SW release from 36 to 40
 
 Using MX645P22 from either Version 32 Plus Family or from the future Version 36 Plus Family will have the same features as Zimo has not published any information about updates made with SW release higher than
 35.
 
 Alain

JMRI Launch Issues

#139123

Reference: JMRI Ops

?I am a new user of JMRI Operations, using it foroperations only, with no plans to interface hardware on my HO railroad. I have beenworking on implementation for 10 weeks now and been able to understand thebasic operations, and have enjoyed setting things up, learning from the manualand various YouTube and related Web items. Still many cars to enter and routesto set up and verify—but I hate to continue until I solve the launch problem.

?I wrote to the forum back on August 3, andSteve “Breezlys” responded with an idea that helped for a while. I used part ofhis solution to try a different profile, but could not understand the secondpart of his solution. I’ll describe the problem again, and the things I have tried or observed.

?By the way, I was first experiencing thisproblem Version 4.6 and found the exact same description of my problem onanother model railroad forum—but suggestions from that group did not solve theissue for that guy or me—just reinstalling Panel Pro, to fix a suspectedcorrupted icon.

?Here’s the background information:

Using Dell Inspiron laptop

Windows 10 Creators

Java Version 1.8.0.141

JMRI Version 4.8, updated from 4.6

No interface to HO railroad or devices in use

?The problem involves launch of JMRI. Itstarts to launch but pauses after a few seconds. Subsequent attempts result inthe message “already running do you want to continue.” Neither “yes” nor “no”produce any good results. I get no other messages or warnings, and neitherSession nor Messages are created since there was no launch to report (unlessyou do Install Test—and that always produces good reports, without warningsthat I can interpret, since it does launch).?
I have continued to work on my locations,routes, cars, etc., but usually in the Install Test or Demo Mode. The manualadvises against working while in the Install Test Mode but that seems to be theonly reliable way I can use the program. The changes I make are being stored inthe correct places for "My JMRI Railroad" profile, and they are there regardless ofwhether I open the program in regular, Install Test, or Demo mode.?

?On occasion I can get the program to open inregular mode, even for two of three days in a row, then the problem resurfaces,and it will only start in Install Test Mode. The one thing that often, but notalways, allows me to open in regular mode is to do a computer restart. To methat suggests the possibly the JMRI/Java shut down does always shut down correctly,and restarting the computer is the only fix. Or maybe it's just the launch, since I have had session messages showing correct closing of JMRI.

?Also a right click on the JMRIicon and then opening as administrator usually works to open in normal mode with myprofile, but only after a computer restart if launch has failed. This does notalways work, but usually eventually it will after another computer restart. Maybe that's just what I will always have to do.

?Here are some other the things I have triedor observed:


Theearlier suggestion from “Breezlys” was to modify an existing profile or createa new one with one of the simulators selected as connection type. I did have anearlier profile and switched to it, as well as setting the launch to ask forprofile, so I can be sure the correct one is selected. The old profile workedfine for a few days, but then the problem reappeared. The second suggestion was to create a new profile with simulators to avoid a launch hang. I did a search on "simulators for connection type" but could not find an explanation I understood,so have not tried that.?
WhenJMRI hangs and will not start up I can often open the DEMO in 4.8, selecting myprofile, and it works fine. But after quitting the program and trying relaunchin either regular or Demo mode the program often will not launch again in either mode, without a computer restart.Again only a computer reboot fixes. (I do not need a computer reboot for anyother programs I use, nor have any other program hangs on launch.) I get nomessages when the program hangs, and cannot find any leads in Windows 10 taskmanager or event viewer.
?WhenI open with Install Test, JMRI opens every time, without rebooting thecomputer, using my standard profile, even if a normal or demo launch fails.Opening with Install Test has never failed.
The“Release Notes for JMRI 4.8 release” seemed to hold promise for my problem.However I cannot figure out how to try the fix. It says that 4.8 will not startcleanly if installed over earlier versions. It also says in that the Windowsinstaller ensures this is not an issue—don’t understand what that means, since I usedWindows to install but still seem to have the problem.
Iwondered whether my initial use of the DEMO version in 4.6, about 10 weeks ago andthe return to “my railroad” was the source of the problem. Just a theory. Backthen I tried to open the demo panel, as suggested to see how that works, but was unable to doso at the time. Maybe something I tried back then while using 4.6 caused theproblem. Updating to 4.8 did not solve the problem.
I’vethought about trying to shut down JMRI from task manager but have not tried thatyet. Maybe that would allow a clean close, if that is the problem source.
Somerecent JMRI user postings have indicated an antivirus program could cause aconflict with launch. I use McAfee Total Protection, but could not find reportsof conflict between Java and this version of McAfee. Not to say that could notbe the issue.
Messagesand Session notes show normal start up and shut down on days I can get tonormal mode. The shut down shows as normal, but next launch may failnevertheless. When launch fails there are no message or session reports created or other warnings.
I'm running out of ideas, and hope someone can offer a solution, or explain how to proceed with earlier suggestions (either the revised profile or Release Notes for 4.8 and removing jar files.)
Thanks for any help or ideas to try. I really enjoy the operations program, just wish I could start it reliably.
Bill Schmitt

Re: Slot monitor is blank

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#139121

Terry: We need to get answers to how things are set, "made no change" does not tell  how they set..
 Walt

Re: Roster Entries - DCC Concepts

#139120

There are no "plans to add" definitions for particular decoders. JMRI is a purely voluntary project and it is a case of an individual (who may or may not be a regular developer/contributor) finding out about a particular decoder, finding some documentation of supported CVs and functions for that decoder and:
- either having a go at writing the decoder definition themselves <> and submitting it for review <> by creating an issue on GitHub <>
- or by creating an issue on GitHub <> including documents or links thereto and waiting for someone to volunteer to create the definition.
-- 
Dave in Australia

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On 13 Aug 2017, at 6:42 PM, 'Joff Hamilton' joffham@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Further to earlier email, are there any plans to add the DCC Concepts
Accessory Decoders to the Roster? Again, if not, where should I store these
entries?

Re: Roster entries - LDT

#139119

There are no "plans to add" definitions for particular decoders. JMRI is a purely voluntary project and it is a case of an individual (who may or may not be a regular developer/contributor) finding out about a particular decoder, finding some documentation of supported CVs and functions for that decoder and:
- either having a go at writing the decoder definition themselves <> and submitting it for review <> by creating an issue on GitHub <>
- or by creating an issue on GitHub <> including documents or links thereto and waiting for someone to volunteer to create the definition.
-- 
Dave in Australia

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On 13 Aug 2017, at 6:38 PM, 'Joff Hamilton' joffham@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Are there any plans to add LDt LS Accessory decoders to the Roster? If not,
can anyone suggest where they should be stored for now?

Roster Entries - DCC Concepts

#139118

Further to earlier email, are there any plans to add the DCC Concepts
Accessory Decoders to the Roster?  Again, if not, where should I store these
entries?

Rgds

Joff

Roster entries - LDT

#139117

Are there any plans to add LDt LS Accessory decoders to the Roster?  If not,
can anyone suggest where they should be stored for now?

Rgds

Joff

Re: Roco Zimo decoder question

#139115

Did you do New Loco->Read Type from decoder?

BTW almost all modern ESU motor decoders identify to a unique JMRI model (if your JMRI version is current). The only exception is the "LokSound Select Direct / Micro", which is actually the same decoder as far as ESU's own model identification goes (I will fix this in the fairly near future).
--
Dave in Australia

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On 13 Aug 2017, at 12:16 PM, thomas_applink@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

The Roco documents with the Lok say PLUx22. (With sound and smoke.)
JMRI gives a list of dozens of decoders. Sort of like Tsunami or Loksound.
My first ZIMO, so I do not want to do something bad.

Re: Roco Zimo decoder question

#139116

Actually, you need to do New Loco->Read Type from decoder.

Identify is only for existing roster entries and mainly looks at loco address (I can't remember offhand but it may also check ManufacturerID). It will not get you any closer to identifying a decoder (address is irrelevant to decoder type identification).
--
Dave in Australia

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On 13 Aug 2017, at 9:44 AM, babinskya@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Thomas, in JMRI click on identify which should give you the address after that you should be able to read the decoder type. I don't have JMRI near me to give you the exact steps but you can see what you need what you need to do.

Re: Slot monitor is blank

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#139114

It's a Dell laptop running xp
I've used it on all previous versions of DP going way back
I made no preference changes when I up graded to 4.8
Just downloaded and installed 4.8
Everything works fine
Roster list is complete 
I've programmed several locos no problem
Just a blank slot monitor

On Aug 13, 2017, at 1:13 AM, walter.stanley.thompson.3@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Terry: What is the Computer system you are using, the OS may be important. Alos in the Preference under Display what do you have set?


I changed my Preference connection to ZephyrXtra and do not see what you see.


Walt

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Re: Slot monitor is blank

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#139113

Terry: What is the Computer system you are using, the OS may be important. Alos in the Preference under Display what do you have set?
 
 I changed my Preference connection to ZephyrXtra and do not see what you see.
 
 Walt

Re: Slot monitor is blank

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#139112

The command station is a zephyr extra the headings across the top that say unused/show all slots are what I am calling tabs
And yes it's loco net slot monitor in production ver 4.8

On Aug 12, 2017, at 7:19 PM, jawhugrps@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Terry,

Are you referring to LocoNet Slot Monitor? If so, what do you mean by "all tabs"? There aren't any "tabs", at least "tabs" as I know them.

What command station? If DCS240, are you using "expanded slots"? JMRI does not understand expanded slots, and will not display them.

Regards,
Billybob

- Remember: providing the information requested in "How to ask your question" can expedite the solution to your question.

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#139111

Bill The PR3 will not connect you tp the MRC command station! It is to connect to a digitrax command station of to be used as a stand alone programmer of decoders.
 Walt

Re: Roco Zimo decoder question

#139110

The Roco documents with the Lok say PLUx22. (With sound and smoke.)
JMRI gives a list of dozens of decoders. Sort of like Tsunami or Loksound.
My first ZIMO, so I do not want to do something bad.
Thomas
DeSoto, TX

Re: Roco Zimo decoder question

#139108

Hi

 It should not matter which Zimo small scale sound decoder it is, they should all behave the same re mapping. It all depends which socket you have in the loco as to which decoder is fitted:-
 
 PluX-22 - MX645 most likely in new H0 locos.
 PluX-16 - MX648 most likely but could be MX645,
 MTC-21 - MX644,
 Next-18S - MX658
 NEM651 6-pin - MX649, 
 NEM652 8-pin - Could be anything!
 
 Be sure to read the CVs from the decoder before changing the relavent CVs and just writing the changes because some CVs determine the decoder type (I believe it is possible to turn a MX644C in to an MX644D and vice versa just by changing CVs!)
 
 Suzie x

Re: Slot monitor is blank

#139107

Terry,

Are you referring to LocoNet Slot Monitor?  If so, what do you mean by "all tabs"?  There aren't any "tabs", at least "tabs" as I know them.

What command station?  If DCS240, are you using "expanded slots"?  JMRI does not understand expanded slots, and will not display them.

Regards,
Billybob

- Remember: providing the information requested in "How to ask your question" can expedite the solution to your question.

Re: Roco Zimo decoder question

#139106

Thomas, in JMRI click on identify which should give you the address after that you should be able to read the decoder type. I don't have JMRI near me to give you the exact steps but you can see what you need what you need to do.
Al Babinsky

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On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 16:21 thomas_applink <jmriusers@...> wrote:

?

My nice new Roco BR85 comes with a Zimo decoder.
JMRI has a long list of decoders to select from. I have no idea which decoder in in the Lok. And the Roco documentation just says "sound decoder".
SO which do I select?

What I actually need to do so map the smoke function off of function 2, as all US DCC systems have F2 as horn/whistle, and it does not latch on. (momentary)

As an alternative, how do I set F2 as not momentary in the throttle for this Lok? (It was there in a past version, but I cannot find it now) Whistle on this Lok is F3 and F4. This would be with WII Throttle and Engine Driver.

Note that 95% of My Loks are Loksound and Tsunami (of some flavor) and this is my first Zimo.

Thanks.
Thomas DeSoto, TX

P.S., the Lok runs great. Just that weird function mapping!

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Roco Zimo decoder question

#139105

My nice new Roco BR85 comes with a Zimo decoder. 
JMRI has a long  list of decoders to select from. I have no idea which decoder in in the Lok. And the Roco documentation just says "sound decoder". 
SO which do I select?

What I actually need to do so map the smoke function off of function 2, as all US DCC systems have F2 as horn/whistle, and it does not latch on. (momentary)

As an alternative, how do I set F2 as not momentary in the throttle for this Lok? (It was there in a past version, but I cannot find it now) Whistle on this Lok is F3 and F4. This would be with WII Throttle and Engine Driver.

Note that 95% of My Loks are Loksound and Tsunami (of some flavor) and this is my first Zimo.

Thanks.
Thomas DeSoto, TX

P.S., the Lok runs great. Just that weird function mapping!

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