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Re: Web Server
Hi Randall It's obvious when you think about it, isn't it! I had set them both to 12080 assuming they should be the same - but they're obviously not! Changed the web server port to 12090 and it works! The only different thing is it has changed the address from 192.168.2.2. to ... 2.3 but a simple edit sorted that out. The system console log did show up the error. I have tested it on the android 4.4 tablet, android 6 phone and a windows 10 tablet. All hunky dory.
I'm a relative newcomer to JMRI. I did try a while ago but something else got in the way and I haven't bothered again until now. Now I know it works I can do more over the coming winter months when it's too cold to go out. Many thanks again for your advice. best wishes Harry |
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Re: DDA40X Dual DCC Controllers won't work
Initially, both decoders received power from all pick-ups. But this problem occurred so I disconnected them. This gave me the added benefit of programming one decoder at a time in case the lock didn't work (CV16 & 15).
I'm well aware of the speed matching traps that befall this scenario. Most would be alleviated by the disabling of BEMF. I'd like to avoid that if at all possible. Regards. |
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Possible bug, how can we help the developers
System is Windows 7 using JMRI 4.8 though I am not sure the JMRI version matters. Using a DCS240.
Connection from PC through locobuffer to the 240. JMRI only finds 2 of the 5 UR92s on the layout. Unable to program Tam Valley quads (this worked on the DCS200 with the same connection). Change connection from PC via USB direct to the 240. JMRI now sees all 5 UR92s. JMRI can now program the quads. Start up scripts run much faster. JMRI reports the status of turnouts and sensors also much faster. In other words the last two items worked with the first set up but took a minute or so to run and report. David Klemm |
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Re: DDA40X Dual DCC Controllers won't work
Pcgumshoe,
I would think there are several issues here. If you have front pickups going to front decoder only and likewise for the rear, then if you have track issues, only one decoder is getting power and command signals and the other stalls out. Think of it this way, the whole point of DCC is being able to run multiple locomotives on the same track without blocks. So I would think you would want feeders from both front and rear trucks going to both decoders. Second, you are going to have a heck of a time speed matching the two different brands of decoders to drive the motors at close to the same speed to keep the loco running smooth. If you are going to do separate decoders, I would think at least use the same brand so you have a decent chance of speed matching. There may be other issues at play, but those struck me as foremost. Others here may have more advice too. Or differing opinions. I look forward to hearing how it all plays out for you. Tom Wilson |
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Re: FW: Panel hardware
Ken,
Unless I reported otherwise, the switches I listed were "non-shorting" switches. But if you are using a 30-degree-indexed switch for a 60-degree-indexing or a 90-degree-indexing application, then the question of shorting vs. non-shorting contacts is really irrelevant. For such an application, there will always be at least one (unused) contact between any two used contacts. So I would consider switches with "shorting" contacts if equivalent switches with "non-shorting" contacts were unavailable. Most of the switches I reported have 6mm shafts (and metric mountings). Some had 1/4" shafts (and imperial mountings). I was focusing on what's available at Mouser that could be usable. I figure that a flat is usually needed, but what orientation does it have versus a position? Well, that depends on how the switch is mounted. That gets tricky when mounting a 60-degree-indexed switch in a panel; where does the anti-twist "pin" hole get oriented in the mast with respect to the mounting hole? I don't know, and cannot really guess. So I assumed that the user will add a flat, once he knows exactly what switch orientation is used on the panel and the position of the set-screws on the lever. The switches with flats are available from the manufacturer with flats at any of four angles, but I cannot guess which is correct for a given install. Even if the lever casting is cast for an internal flat, the user can always file down the round shaft to add the appropriate flat, and even get it in the position he/she likes. Want a manufactured flat on the shaft? Do the research and make your choice. I'm not giving away any more of my time on this subject. Regards, Billybob |
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New Computer
A friend of mine just got a new computer. He is having two problems. First we set everything up for his Panel Pro. But when it comes up all the switches come up with the Unknown Icon. How do we get it to come up with the proper switch. His next problem is the newest JMRI doesn't have some of the decoders he has. He says they are older decoders. Thanks for your help. P. J. Mattson
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Re: System Console Warning Message
Paul;
the command station is still showing disconnected the command station version and type is unknown my Mac is a late iMac 2015; it still takes time before I can even just read the system console or check the Preferences/connections or defaults & when I click on Restart it doesn't restart very soon after doing so so I usually just click the Force Quit from the Apple Menu Here is my System Console below; is this what you are referring to as the "log"? 2017-08-08 18:32:52,827 util.Log4JUtil INFO - * JMRI log ** [main] 2017-08-08 18:32:55,714 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is appended to file: /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/messages.log [main] 2017-08-08 18:32:55,715 util.Log4JUtil INFO - This log is stored in file: /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/log/session.log [main] 2017-08-08 18:32:55,761 apps.AppsBase INFO - DecoderPro version 4.9.2ish+jenkins+20170804T0543Z+Reaaaf8a starts under Java 1.8.0_144 on Mac OS X x86_64 v10.13 at Tue Aug 08 18:32:55 EDT 2017 [main] 2017-08-08 18:32:57,024 gui3.Apps3 INFO - Starting with profile wmseamac.3f48e951 [main] 2017-08-08 18:32:57,635 node.NodeIdentity INFO - Using jmri-28F0761979C8-3f48e951 as the JMRI Node identity [main] 2017-08-08 18:32:59,359 liusb.LIUSBAdapter INFO - cu.usbmodem1411 port opened at 57600 baud with DTR: true RTS: true DSR: false CTS: false CD: false [main] 2017-08-08 18:32:59,522 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController ERROR - Automatic Recovery from Error Message: 01 08 09. Retransmitted 0 times. [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Receive thread] 2017-08-08 18:32:59,522 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController INFO - Message added back to queue: 21 21 00 [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Transmit thread] 2017-08-08 18:33:29,879 lenz.XNetInitializationManager WARN - Command Station disconnected, or powered down assuming LZ100/LZV100 V3.x [main] 2017-08-08 18:33:32,128 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path program: is /Applications/JMRI/ [main] 2017-08-08 18:33:32,129 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path preference: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/wmseamac/profile/jmri-28F0761979C8-3f48e951/ [main] 2017-08-08 18:33:32,129 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path profile: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/wmseamac/ [main] 2017-08-08 18:33:32,130 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path settings: is /Users/williamseabrooke/Library/Preferences/JMRI/ [main] 2017-08-08 18:33:32,130 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path home: is /Users/williamseabrooke/ [main] 2017-08-08 18:33:32,130 util.FileUtilSupport INFO - File path scripts: is /Applications/JMRI/jython/ [main] 2017-08-08 18:33:34,880 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: 21 21 00 consecutive timeouts = 0 in liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Transmit thread] 2017-08-08 18:34:09,976 jmrix.AbstractMRTrafficController WARN - Timeout on reply to message: 21 24 05 consecutive timeouts = 1 in liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer [liusb.LIUSBXNetPacketizer Transmit thread] Thank you Paul for expressing interest in this feed! |
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Re: Web Server
Randall Wood
In your Preferences, I would expect WiThrottle tab to show port 12080 (based on your description). The Web Server port is something else, shown in Preferences under the Web Server tab. In the browser, you will need to connect to <>.2:that-other-port
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The default port for the Web Server is 12080 and the default port for WiThrottle is 12090. If those ports are the same, the WiThrottle server will get the port, but the Web Server will simply be blocked from working (the logs under System Console will likely show something to this effect). Hope this helps, Randall On Aug 8, 2017, at 13:23, harry.rigby@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: |
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Re: Panel hardware
Uh Mark, where do you think Radio Shack got theirs? <g>
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Seth Neumann Mountain View, CA Sent from my iPhone, please excuse the typing. On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:42 AM, Bob McCown rmccown@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote: |
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Re: FW: Panel hardware
Billybob,
Nice bit of research. However, for any of the circuits I¡¯ve seen for CTC panels, you always want break before make types. Next is ?¡± shaft vs 6mm shaft is less than a 1/64¡± difference, so most knobs will not notice the difference (if they are 1/4¡± designs), the set screws can deal with that. As for flats on the shafts or keyed mounting hardware, I¡¯ve found most MR types seem to be rather heavy handed!! So having mounting hardware that will prevent twisting the switch itself is important. The flat on the shaft is critical to keep the knob in the right place, but this is easy after installation with a couple of passes of a file on the shaft if it wasn¡¯t equipped in the first place. Note: We¡¯d need to check about the knobs themselves to see if they are round or if they have an internal flat to match. That would be important to know. -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team www.jmri.org www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org www.cnymod.com www.syracusemodelrr.org [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: FW: Panel hardware
Dale,
Here's my results from about 45 minutes work at the Mouser web site, looking only at "Alpha" rotary switches, and double-checking the part number versus the manufacturer's description. I appologize in advance for any typos. All were listed as "in-stock" when I looked these up today: Mouser 105-SR2511F-43RN : Alpha P/N SR2511F-0403-19R0B-E9-N-W-159 - open style suitable for US&S 2-position lever, using Tomar "slug"; metric mounting. Mouser 105-SR2511F-25NS : Alpha P/N SR2511F-0205-19R0B-E9-N-W-159 - open style suitable for US&S 3-position lever, using Tomar "slugs"; metric mounting. Mouser 105-SR2512F-43NS : Alpha P/N SR2511F-0403-19R0B-E9-N-W-159 - open style suitable for US&S 2-position lever, using Tomar "slug"; metric mounting. Mouser 105-SR2511F-25S : Alpha P/N SR2511F-0205-19R0B-E9-S-W-159 - open style suitable for US&S 3-position lever, using Tomar "slugs"; metric mounting - note that this is a "shorting" switch! Mouser 105-SR2511F-43S : Alpha P/N SR2511F-0403-19R0B-E9-S-W-159 - open style suitable for US&S 2-position lever, using Tomar "slug"; metric mouting - note that this is a "shorting" switch! Mouser 105-SR2511F-17S : Alpha P/N SR2511F-0107-19R0B-E9-S-W-159 - open style suitable for GRS 3-position lever, using Tomar "slugs"; metric mounting - note that this is a "shorting" switch! Mouser 105-SR2612F-26-21RN : Alpha P/N SR2612F-0206-21R0B-D8-N - enclosed style suitable for US&S 2- and 3-position lever, or GRS 2-position lever; imperial mouting - requires internal modifications! Mouser 105-SR2612F-26-21RN : Alpha P/N SR2612F-0206-21R0B-D8-N - enclosed style suitable for US&S 2- and 3-position lever, or GRS 2-position lever; imperial mouting - requires internal modifications! Mouser 105-SR2611F-12-21RS : Alpha P/N SR2611F-0112-21R0B-D8-S - enclosed style suitable for US&S 2- and 3-position lever, or GRS 2-position or 3-position lever; internal modification required - requires a specialty "stop" washer which may not be provided and I have not seen such a washer purchasable separately. Assumptions: . Want a round shaft, since the flat will likely not line up with the knob screw for an obvious orientation of the switch . require a 1/4" shaft, not a 6mm shaft . "open" style switches require the correct number of positions, at 30-degree indexing, for the desired number of 60-degree- or 90-degree-indexed positions. . "enclosed" style switches do not require at least the minimum number of positions, at 30-degree indexing, for the desired number of 60-degree- or 90-degree-indexed positions, and the number of "poles" cannot prevent unique identification of lever position when in position at any of the the 60-degree- or 90-degree indexed positions. . pin connection isn't critical. FYI - SR2511 and SR2611 have "wire lugs" and SR2612 has "pc-board" pins. Hope this helps. Regards, Billybob |
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Web Server
Can anyone help? JMRI runs OK on a Windows 10 PC. I can control throttles, turnouts and I have a working panel. Using Engine Driver on an Android 4.4 tablet, it connects OK to 192.168.2.2:12080 and I can control throttles, turnouts and routes. However, when I select "web" it shows either a blank screen or sometimes a screen full of text, which looks like a status report. If I try to connect using a browser to 192.168.2.2:12080 I get a "no response" message.
In preferences Frames is disabled (as per default) and I have started the WiFi Throttle server and the web server with the application; both appear in the "startup" list. Is there a setting I have got wrong? Hope someone can help. Best wishes Harry |
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DDA40X Dual DCC Controllers won't work
Hello,
I have an Athearn DDA40X non-sound unit that I purchased new. I didn't buy the sound version because I prefer the loksound select/direct decoders. My primary decoder is a Loksound Direct with all lights and the front motor connected to it. My secondary decoder is a TCS T1 for JUST rear motor control. My primary decoder is programmed for decoder lock with CV16=2 and my secondary decoder is programmed for decoder lock with CV16=1. Both decoders work fine and are brand new. Each decoder has separate track pick up wires wired to it, so decoder 1 picks up track power from the front trucks, decoder 2 picks up track power from the rear trucks. When I program both decoders to the 4 digit loco address only the sound decoder will drive it's motors When I assign the secondary decoder a separate 4 digit address and consist it with the first decoder, only the first decoder motor works. CV15=0,1,2 depending on if I'm programming or not and which decoder I want to program. My test track is controlled by an NCE Power Pro. My programming track is the NCE Power Pro via JMRI with a working usb-serial adapter. I can program mostly fine. When I go to assign CV15 to 2, some times it comes back unable to locate engine. I can change CV=15 to 2 using my NCE throttle and programming on the main. I know once I get this where both sets of wheels roll I will have a fun time fine tuning the momentum. Any advice. |
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Re: FW: FW: Panel hardware
Great, thanks. I, too, bought a bunch of cheap Chinese ones and they
wernt any better quality than the ones I got at the local Radio Shack when it closed. On 8/7/2017 4:54 PM, 'Mark Juett' modelrailroadbuilder@... [jmriusers] wrote:
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Re: FW: Panel hardware
Mark,
could you please provide the correct part numbers for the switches you referenced? You have shown the same part number for 3 different switches. Thanks, Dale Gloer |
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Re: Panel hardware
Andy,
The CTCParts.com web site has an introduction to CTC - see . Specifically, "Part 5: The Control Machine", at the bottom of the page, gives basic descriptions of the lamps and levers. One thing I'm learning is that a given lever or lamp on the prototypical machine doesn't always have a simple explanation. There's always an exception. And railroad "X" did it this way but "Y" did it a different way and "Z" left that feature out and railroad "W" did something altogether different. So, if you want to be strictly accurate-to-prototype, you need to discuss your implementation with an expert in signalling. I know that Mike at CTCparts.com is willing (eager?) to discuss, the various prototype railroad practices, including whys and what-fors, indocator colors, control machine plate shapes, sounds, signal aspects, braking distances, switch geometries, etc., and how they come together as a prototypical signal system. Getting some of his time, however, can be challenging. Regards, Billybob |
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Re: JMRI PanelPro - Programming Support for M?rklin CS2 / Doehler&Haass Programmer
Hi all, any news on this topic,
JMRI PanelPro - Programming Support for M?rklin CS2 / Doehler&Haass Programmer Regards, Moritz |
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Re: (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING
Thanks Dan, regarding the Excel apps.
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James Allen jcallen1@... -----Original Message-----
From: Dan Foltz DannyDont@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> To: JMRI User Group <jmriusers@...> Sent: Aug 6 1:51 pm Subject: Re: [jmriusers] (OPERATIONS) SWITCHLIST PRINTING Whoops, I skipped this message. Actually there are two different Excel Apps for each Manifest version, if you follow that. One is for Excel 2007 or older (back to 2000) and the other is for Excel 2020 and newer (up through Excel 365). In MicroSoft's infinite wisdom, that made some significant changes to VBA or internal parameters that made the original code non-functional in the later versions. But both App versions of each of the nine Manifest versions have been tested and function. *Dan (Choo-Choo)** Foltz* *?* *"?A bad attitude is like a flat tire. You can't go anywhere until you change it." * *?Unknown* |
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Re: Panel hardware
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out.
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Re: Panel hardware
Andy,
Dr. Bruce Chubbs Volume 2 is pretty complete. His articles in Railroad Model Craftsman are helpful. Part 14 (April 2014) has a few photos. There are some references on line, but the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Mike Burgett's web site: . Rodney _________________________________________________________________________________________ Where would I find a definition of the functions of the individual switches? I'm intrigued by the possibility of simulating a panel. Andy Reichert |
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