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The maximum number of simultaneous trains that can be controlled by a Power Pro system is 250. If all 250 locos have non-zero speed, the command station will be continually sending speed commands to all 250 moving locos, as required by the DCC standard. But this will not affect the response time of an individual loco to a keypress or speed change since a changed speed command or function command to a particular loco will "jump the queue". Response time will only be affected if many users are making changes to speed or function state simultaneously.

All active NCE cabs are polled in a (not necessarily numerically ordered) sequence and even with the limit of 63 physical cabs and the case of all cabs having a status change to report, this polling loop takes no more than 275ms.

There is no limit to the number of JMRI cabs that can be connected (although the 250 simultaneously active locos limit still applies) and only speed changes or function state changes are transmitted, so response times are unlikely to be a problem.

Your WiFi router will limit the number of WiThrottle devices connected and this limit will depend on the router you purchase.
--
Dave in Australia

Perry,

Before even considering whether the machine is capable of running JMRI (It probably is), you should get it running right.

From your description it sounds like some malware may have hijacked your browser. I'd start by disabling the browser from opening at startup and go from there with a good AV scan, MAB, etc. If it's infected too badly, nuke the drive and reinstall the OS.

HTH,
Steve
"Breezlys"



---In jmriusers@..., <texasperry@...> wrote :

Mike, my last comment may not have made any sense. The Dell XPS laptop kept locking up trying to open a web browser page. I have no idea why it was trying to load the page. But, it would lock up. I would go to task manager and it would say program not responding. I would click close and program and it would start right back up. I would like to upgrade this machine to be able to use win 10. It may be fine as is for JMRI. But I worry about it working with some of the new stuff coming out for DCC. I have not decided on using Digitrax or NCE on my layout. I have both systems now. I bought the power cab to use at my bench but may use it on my layout. Thanks againPerry

/On 6/23/2017 7:18 AM, Perry A Pollino texasperry@...
[jmriusers] wrote://
/

/The Dell XPS laptop kept locking up trying to open a web browser page.
I have no idea why it was trying to load the page. But, it would lock
up. I would go to task manager and it would say program not
responding. I would click close and program and it would start right
back up. /

I have similar problems but they pertain to internet speed, mainly
from a Hughes net connection. If you disconnect from the net and load
JMRI as the home page, what happens?

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Hi Perry,?
That's more than adequate to run JMRI..
Regards,?Stu...


Sent from my Samsung Note3

Mike, my last comment may not have made any sense. The Dell XPS laptop kept locking up trying to open a web browser page. I have no idea why it was trying to load the page. But, it would lock up. I would go to task manager and it would say program not responding. I would click close and program and it would start right back up. ?I would like to upgrade this machine to be able to use win 10. It may be fine as is for JMRI.?But I worry about it working with some of the new stuff coming out for DCC.?I have not decided on using Digitrax or NCE on my layout. I have both systems now. I bought the power cab to use at my bench but may use it on my layout. ?Thanks againPerry

From: "Perry texasperry@... [jmriusers]" <jmriusers@...>
To: jmriusers@...
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Elementary question about system requirements

? Mike,
From what I can gather.
The laptop is a Dell XPS M1710. Model number on the back is PP05XB.
It has win7 ultimate.
200 Ghz processor
4 GB memory.
320 GB hard drive
GForce 7900 sound.
I can't get it to load my email keeps giving me stopped responding messages and script errors.
Thanks for advice in advance
Perry

On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Can you be more specific as to it's specs and the Dell model? Not only
could we then tell you if it will run, if you want or need to upgrade it I
could point you at the parts that will work for you.

Mike Piazza

On Jun 21, 2017 9:34 AM, "texasperry@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

I read the system requirements on JMRI site. I did not see anything about
memory or processor speed. Are there any minimum requirements.
My current machine is an old old Dell gaming computer I was given. I could
not load Win 10 on it. I got a message it did not mee system requirements.
I was going take it to the local laptop shop and see if it could be
upgraded, or look at what they may have off lease.


Thanks
Perry

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Norman, I'm not sure if you have a windows or Mac computer, however I
suggest you try the following.

1) Go into Cars and sort the cars via location
2) Click on the first row and then scroll down and highlight all rows
3) Copy the highlighted rows. (on a window computer Control/C)
4) Open excel and paste these files into excel
5) you can then delete any information you don't want, use filters and
print whatever you require etc.

I do this before every Ops session and then walk around my layout checking
each location against what the system think's is there.

Hope this helps,
Duncan

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:27 PM, norman.beveridge@... [jmriusers] <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

Once again I tried searching for this one and failed. So please bear with
me if this has been asked previously.


I want to print the cars at just one location. So I go to that location,
and under tools I select show cars, and then select car roster, and then
print. Before I print, I can select what data to print by selecting
preview.


Unfortunately, even if I reduce the data to the bare minimum, when this
report prints most of the data is off the page to the right due mainly to
weird spacing between the letters. This makes the report useless. If I
reduce the font to the point where the data is on the page, then it is so
small that I cannot read it without a magnifying glass.


I tried printing in landscape format, but apparently this feature does not
communicate with my printer. I.e. nothing happened at all.


All I want is car number, road, type, and location, so that I can check
where everything is at each town individually. I can get by without the car
type, but that only save a small amount of space, not enough to increase
font size without losing part of the location information.


Suggestions? Ideas?




Norman

--
Duncan Cabassi


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found the reason for the 10 being the escape for ETX 0x03

I am enjoying getting to know JRMI - C/MRI operation and appreciate how helpful this group has been to date.

It has been a long term desire of mine to automate a model railway layout with the goal now looking much closer.

Cheers
Geoff

Paul

I was able to try the changes you made yesterday and in limited testing the
throttle worked well, i had no engine control problems the function keys
worked as they should. Programming still is working fine.Happy to see the
changes are effective in a straight Z21 setup.

Thanks for your efforts

Bill Lang

As Jon says, it seems like something changed the status of all the entries.
Since I don't know of any command that would do that, I have to ask:



WHEN WAS THE COMMAND STATION BATTERY LAST CHANGED??



Sorry to use all caps, but when I see something that seems like a change
that makes no sense, I suspect the hardware. A failing battery could account
for anything being weird in the slots or settings.



Given the history of the JMRI throttle, I've known we put hooks for a few
other forms, but I've not found any code to do stuff with the Motorola form
other than identify the header if seen. Yes some of the command station have
something to do with it. But I can't find anything that JMRI could generate
to do the status edit. Maybe I missed it, but so far, I can't see how JMRI
would have any way to do what happened. At least on LocoNet, I don't see
code to do things with the format, only read it. Ecos, Marklin, and Zimo
have more code so might, but nothing obvious about being able to do anything
with it changing everything.



-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

www.jmri.org

www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org

www.cnymod.com

www.syracusemodelrr.org

Folks,
I recently dove into my JMRI installation and all went well......for a while. I managed to list about thirty of my locos on the roster but when I opened the software yesterday and turned on my NCE DCC
system the software will not communicate with the DCC system. It just displays a notification (in red) that NCE is offline and nothing I have tried will reestablish communications between the two.
Has any one in this group ever experienced this situation and what did you do to resolve it? By the way the DCC system works fine in all other respects. Thanks in advance.
Bill Aulicino
Apex NC

Mike,
From what I can gather.
The laptop is a Dell XPS M1710. Model number on the back is PP05XB.
It has win7 ultimate.
200 Ghz processor
4 GB memory.
320 GB hard drive
GForce 7900 sound.
I can't get it to load my email keeps giving me stopped responding messages and script errors.
Thanks for advice in advance
Perry

On Jun 21, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Michael Piazza mpiazza2007@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Can you be more specific as to it's specs and the Dell model? Not only
could we then tell you if it will run, if you want or need to upgrade it I
could point you at the parts that will work for you.

Mike Piazza

On Jun 21, 2017 9:34 AM, "texasperry@... [jmriusers]" <
jmriusers@...> wrote:

I read the system requirements on JMRI site. I did not see anything about
memory or processor speed. Are there any minimum requirements.
My current machine is an old old Dell gaming computer I was given. I could
not load Win 10 on it. I got a message it did not mee system requirements.
I was going take it to the local laptop shop and see if it could be
upgraded, or look at what they may have off lease.


Thanks
Perry

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Jim S.,

There are two obvious things that can control a slot's "default" "operating mode" - that is, whether the slot defaults to "trinary" or "128 speed step" or "28 speed step" or "14 speed step" or "motorola" or one of the other possibilities...

First, you might want to take a look at DCS100 "OpSw"es 21, 22, and 23. These are supposed to provide the "global system default type" when acquiring a locomotive which is not already in the DCS100 slot table (and when the throttle does not override the command station).

Depending on which firmware version of DCS100 you have, and which version of the DCS100 manual you have, you can find conflicting information on these, and different lists of what values are supported. I've always used a "poke-and-hope" approach - try a set of OpSw 21/22/23, power-down then power-up, then acquire a loco that is not already in a slot, and see what mode it comes up in.

You need to use a DT*00x or DT402x throttle with a display to view the "status". For some throttle models, it is necessary to "status edit" the slot to view the "status" to find out what "status" or mode that the slot is using for the loco.

Second, if you use DT100x, DT300x, DT400x, DT402x, or DT500x throttles, each of these can provide a "default slot operating mode" which may override the DCS100 defaults.

With the DT100x throttles, the throttle's "Secondary Option" code "oS" influences the default slot operating mode value.

With the DT300x and DT400x throttles, throttle "OpSw2" influences the default slot operating mode value.

With the DT402x throttles and the DT500x throttles, when the "NewTypes" option is "on", then the "Nu Type=" value takes precedence over the command station's default slot operating mode; you want to make sure the "Nu Type=" value is reasonable (i.e. not "tr1"). Alternately, you may set "NewTypes" to "off" and rely on the command station's default value.

Regards,
Billybob

/On 6/22/2017 6:04 PM, jhswann@... [jmriusers] wrote://
/

/I can't find a location where to make 128 the default on the DCS100
but i'll keep looking/

There is a command station setting to make 128 default for NEW
decoders. But if somehow your current decoders were changed to a
different status then you either need to change them (status edit each
and every one) or delete and re-enter.

It seems as if a global command was sent to "status edit" all the
decoders on your layout to Motorola trinary.

--
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems,
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Hi Fellows.

Thanks to all who tried to assist with this issue.


I have a solution:


Somehow the command station started to use something called stat tri for its communications with all my mobile decoders. When I changed all the engines (each individually!) back to 128 (digitrax preferred) the world returned to normal. This must be done from the wireless throttle near as I can tell. I can't find a location where to make 128 the default on the DCS100 but i'll keep looking. As of now the layout is operational. 2 days! WHEW!




Thanks again.




Jim Swann

Thanks for the info. That works.

Blair,

Thank you for your input and advice.

I had studied the message formatting earlier, however it was not obvious to me at first, was that the C/MRI protocol does not have any message formats which deal with only one output, or only one input. It only has formats which deal with "all inputs on the node" or "all outputs on the node" as clarified by Billybob in a previous post.

Regards
Geoff

Randall,



Thank you for the information. Be assured that I am pulling for your early success. In the meantime, I can get by using VNC Viewer remotely since it has a scalable window.



Brian



From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: June 22, 2017 17:08
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] JMRI with Java 9?





JMRI does not run with Java 9 on any OS. We hope to have that resolved soon.

Randall

On Jun 22, 2017, at 16:57, 'Brian Gilhuly' brianlgilhuly@... [jmriusers] <jmriusers@...> wrote:

Is there a way to make JMRI work with Java 9 on Windows? Running on Java 8
on my high-res display results in panels too miniscule to use. Setting the
font size to 30 makes the text in most windows semi-readable, with the
layout scrambled. But when I try with java 9, which does work well on my
display, the JMRI loader reports a "Java not found" error.

Apparently this is a known problem, but the last thread on the subject I
could find ended with someone asking in msg. #135627, "Has the problem with
JMRI failing to load under Java 9 been resolved now? (It was due to Java 9
defining different registry keys so the ones that JMRI checks to see if Java
is present were not found)". That was back on Feb. 7, and he never got an
answer.

What is the current status? If it is just a matter of registry keys, there
should be a simple manual work-around.

Thanks,

Brian Gilhuly

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Steve,

Thanks for the suggestion. Yes there is an exclamation point on my WiFi icon, on both my phone and tablet.


On my Motorola Droid phone under WiFi Advanced, there is an option named "Avoid bad WiFi connections". Unfortunately, it was already off.This phone is running Android version 7.0


My knockoff tablet also has an option on the WiFi Advanced menu, this one is called "Avoid poor connections". It too was turned off. This tablet is running Android version 4.4.2


Bob

Jim,



The "key" is your "STAT TRI" message. The address (1201) has been "Status
Edited" (most likely inadvertently) so your command station is sending
"Motorola Trinary" format messages to address 1201. Your DCC decoder does
respond to these.



Check your manual for "Status Edit" on how to "Status Edit" the address back
to 128 speed step operation. Alternative -- use the JMRI Slot Monitor to
find address 1201 and clear that slot. Then when you select address 1201 it
will be a "new" address when you select it.



HTH



Ross Kudlick



From: jmriusers@... [mailto:jmriusers@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 4:50 PM
To: jmriusers@...
Subject: [jmriusers] Re: Trouble with JMRI throttle





Hi Walt.

Here is an update in the problem. It is an email I sent to Marc Fournier in
Quebec.
Hi Marc.
Thanks for the reply.
I have just trashed another day downstairs trying to sort this out.
Here is more data:
1. I use a digitrax command station DCS 150. I have a digitrax wireless
duplex throttle which I rarely use.....I usually run from the computer with
JMRI; however, I was using the wireless throttle on 1 engine (#1201) the
night prior to my problems as I was aligning a turntable track at the far
side of my layout. I tried Breezleys trick from the forum , and it was no
help. I do not use consists as yet.
2. Today I beamed up my program and confirmed that loconet system is
working. I can change all my switches and my script to "set all switches"
runs perfectly
3. I picked one engine (#1201) (the one I was using on my turntable test)
and it was not working on either the wireless or the computer throttle. I
was fiddling with the loco select knob on the wireless throttle and above
the 1201 number I got the message STAT TRI on the screen. I also noted that
I could move between the numbers "stat tri",14,28/128 - but I can't remember
how i was able to do that! . I hit 128 and the engine jumped to life and
roared around the track. I was quite surprised. I have no idea what I did. I
had to put the engine on the programming track and with much fussing about I
now have 1 engine running more or less the way it was with either the
throttle or the computer. All my other engines respond to some commands from
the computer throttle ( horns squeals etc.) but no engines work (i.e. run).
The wireless doesn't work them either.
4. I notice the buttons on the computer throttle don't seem to dim/un-dim
properly when they are clicked. Sometimes they stay grey, sometimes the are
clear. Sometime they don't clear until another button is pushed.


I am quite baffled by this mess.


Hope you have some ideas what to do next...




Cheers,




Jim

JMRI does not run with Java 9 on any OS. We hope to have that resolved soon.

Randall