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Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

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Some changes might not be hard to make. Example the LCD clock. Add a digit, create two icons, one AM, one PM. Those go into the new digit location. Since we¡¯ve added icons to the set for the LCD clock for use a volt/amp meter display, we can extend it easily.

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Nixie clock would be hardest. Matching that, I don¡¯t know, those are photos of the real thing. Closest I¡¯d guess for that would be a pair (or single) LED graphic to show the state of AM/PM. Or maybe modify the colon to blink for PM?

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The Pragotron, another I¡¯d really don¡¯t know. But is it straight graphics, so more possibility for somebody to create a matching graphic. Or are those also pictures? At least it isn¡¯t really good as the original would ¡®flip¡¯ the numbers (aka the clock next to the bed in Groundhog day) which was cool but would have required an animated graphic for each number transition.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

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billy Bob

That¡¯s how most requirement definitions for business systems work. ?You ?get vague ideas, followed by ¡°that¡¯s not what I wanted¡± when you deliver something. ?Followed up by ¡°I¡¯m not sure what I want, but it isn¡¯t that¡±¡­.

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Re: New to DCC - MacBook Pro Java failure #java #mac-os

 

Tracy,
I hope this helps, read this:


Hope it helps.


On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 7:58?PM Tracy Reynolds via <threynolds2=[email protected]> wrote:
I¡¯ve tried Java 17 and Decoder Pro can¡¯t find any Java.? Decoder Pro CAN find Java 11 JDK.? I¡¯ve been at this for over a week and downloaded and tried 3 or 4 each Java 17 and Java 11.? All I can got to work is Java 11 JDK.

Tracy



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Re: Need Help Creating a Power Panel for my Layout

 

Couldn't you just wire the "remote LED" terminals 3&4 to a sensor and then read that sensor into JMRI?
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Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

Assuming the IMCURRENTTIME memory variable has not been deleted, a memory label is a simple clock.
Dave Sand



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From: Dave Barraza <dave@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] 12 hour JMRI clocks
Date: Saturday, May 17, 2025 9:17 PM

Indeed, however time is still relevant for modern operations.
Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

On 5/17/2025 10:17 PM, Dave Barraza wrote:
Indeed, however time is still relevant for modern operations.
What's _most_ relevant is that without a _definition_ of "what people want", ain't nothin' gonna change... We haven't heard anything more than "it isn't what I want".

Perhaps someone else needs to work on this, because I am rapidly losing interest.
Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

Indeed, however time is still relevant for modern operations.
Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

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Considering that JMRI has the hooks for dealing with 12 vs 24 hour time since some of the systems it ties to knows of both time formats, it shouldn¡¯t be hard of the programming side.

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But as others have pointed out defining how it will look is really the harder part. Example the dial clock does it via a small AM or PM on the dial face. Once a definition is stable, the implementation shouldn¡¯t be too much work for somebody.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: New to DCC - MacBook Pro Java failure #java #mac-os

 

I¡¯ve tried Java 17 and Decoder Pro can¡¯t find any Java. ?Decoder Pro CAN find Java 11 JDK. ?I¡¯ve been at this for over a week and downloaded and tried 3 or 4 each Java 17 and Java 11. ?All I can got to work is Java 11 JDK.

Tracy
Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 01:51 AM, Dave Barraza wrote:
I was looking for a 12-hour option for the digital clock displays
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To include AM / PM / am / pm ?? This would require someone to volunteer new graphics.
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If the meridiem suffix isn't required it's a fair bit easier ;-)
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Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

On 5/17/2025 8:51 PM, Dave Barraza wrote:
I was looking for a 12-hour option for the digital clock displays
So how about the other questions I've asked? You may or may not care, but if you do, that will make a "baseline" set of "requirements" for a future JMRI improvement of its "Tools"-"clocks" set of clock displaying functionality.
Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

On 5/17/2025 9:14 PM, Robert Heller via groups.io wrote:
But wouldn't analog clocks be prototypical for a railroad that used a 12 hour clock?
(In my opinion, this is an "owner's preference question", not a question of "prototypicalness". Especially since the typical computer which can run JMRI has existed for fewer than 25ish years, when trains have existed for around 200ish years.)
Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

But wouldn't analog clocks be prototypical for a railroad that used a 12 hour clock?



On May 17, 2025 at 20:51, Dave Barraza <dave@...> wrote:

I was looking for a 12-hour option for the digital clock displays
Re: 12 hour JMRI clocks

 

I was looking for a 12-hour option for the digital clock displays
Re: New to DCC - MacBook Pro Java failure #java #mac-os

 

Tracy - I'm not sure what you're actually doing but here is the lonk for the Java 17 JRE DMG:
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Fred
On May 17, 2025 at 6:32?PM -0600, Tracy Reynolds via groups.io <threynolds2@...>, wrote:

I could not find any Java JRE .DMG downloads on Azul.com, only.zip and .tar.gz downloads. ?Those unzip but don¡¯t install. ?I have no idea what to do with the unzipped files. ?Just unzipping them doesn¡¯t result in a Java that Decoder Pro can find. ?Java 17 was recommended in another reply here and Decoder Pro could not find any Java with Java 17 installed. ?I downloaded a Java 11 JDK .DMG from Azul.com and that is the only download that will install anything Decoder Pro can find and work with.
So, yes, I did try the .dmg download from Azul.com.

Tracy
Re: New to DCC - MacBook Pro Java failure #java #mac-os

 

I could not find any Java JRE .DMG downloads on Azul.com, only.zip and .tar.gz downloads. ?Those unzip but don¡¯t install. ?I have no idea what to do with the unzipped files. ?Just unzipping them doesn¡¯t result in a Java that Decoder Pro can find. ?Java 17 was recommended in another reply here and Decoder Pro could not find any Java with Java 17 installed. ?I downloaded a Java 11 JDK .DMG from Azul.com and that is the only download that will install anything Decoder Pro can find and work with.
So, yes, I did try the .dmg download from Azul.com.

Tracy
Re: Need Help Creating a Power Panel for my Layout

 

What version of EB1 do you have. I have modified a circuit that was on Tony's Train Exchange for DCC Specialties. I have a remote panel on front of layout to let me know when I have a short along with being able to have a JMRI Panel. If interested contact me.
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Bob Cochran
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Re: Importing LocSound file into DecoderPro #decoderpro

 

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Michael,

Adding some detail to Peter¡¯s response. You cannot import a LokSound project into DecoderPro. You can only import the values of the CVs. No sound. First you have to create a CV file using the LokProgrammer software. After opening the sound project with LokProgrammer, use ¡®Tools¡¯>¡¯Export CV list¡­¡¯ to create the CV file. Then, after opening the appropriate interface for DecoderPro, use ¡®File¡¯>¡¯Import¡¯>¡¯LokProgrammer CV list file¡­¡¯ to import the saved CVs.

Mark Granville
Re: JMRI merchandise for donations

 

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I¡¯ll see if I can find my card format. I¡¯ve been using it for at least 15+ years. Only an icon and few edits for the one I use for LCC.

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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team

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Re: JMRI merchandise for donations

 

Cash donations are always appreciated.



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