Re: DecoderPro Opens every time as a new install
George,
Before starting DecoderPro, use the file manager and go to C:\Users\<username>\JMRI. ?Replace <username> with the name of the Windows user used for logon.
You should see a similar list of files as shown here.
You probably will not have the PanelProConfig2.properties file or the jython directory unless you also use PanelPro.
In the log directory there will be session.log and messages.log files. ?Upload the messages.log file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder.
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Decoder Pro Opens every time as a new install
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 2:14 PM
Team,
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I really need some help on this issue.? I posted on it a couple weeks back and got zero replies.
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At the museum we have a Dell PC running Windows 10 and Java 11.? Currently JMRI version 5.10 is running on the machine.? Every time JMRI opens it is a new install running the set-up wizard where we have to choose the Sprogg unit, the com port, etc.? It also does not remember that there should be a roster of locomotives.? ?I uninstalled the JMRI software by selecting uninstall in the apps window.? I confirmed that all directories are removed from the system.? I re-installed JMRI.? There is no change in the behavior.? Save locos to the Roster, it recognizes them until the next time decoder pro is started and then it opens as a new install with the wizard wanting you to choose Sprogg, com port, etc.? Once you do that it comes up with no roster.
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I'm at my wits end on this one.? Can someone offer suggestions or ideas to try.
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George Ronn
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DecoderPro Opens every time as a new install
Team,
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I really need some help on this issue.? I posted on it a couple weeks back and got zero replies.
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At the museum we have a Dell PC running Windows 10 and Java 11.? Currently JMRI version 5.10 is running on the machine.? Every time JMRI opens it is a new install running the set-up wizard where we have to choose the Sprogg unit, the com port, etc.? It also does not remember that there should be a roster of locomotives.? ?I uninstalled the JMRI software by selecting uninstall in the apps window.? I confirmed that all directories are removed from the system.? I re-installed JMRI.? There is no change in the behavior.? Save locos to the Roster, it recognizes them until the next time decoder pro is started and then it opens as a new install with the wizard wanting you to choose Sprogg, com port, etc.? Once you do that it comes up with no roster.
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I'm at my wits end on this one.? Can someone offer suggestions or ideas to try.
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George Ronn
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
Tony, I forgot to address some of your questions.
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Most of my blocks are train length.? Some are not; a couple of? turnouts and the yard ladders, for example. Blocks where a train might stop are programmed with their length in inches.
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Blocks are physically isolated, with BDL168 occupancy detection.
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I have? not created a simple loop panel with no turnouts.? I was workking on SML? and placing masts when I ran into the software setting up masts on the frog end of a turnout, but not offering a mast on the points end.? This is, however the same turnout I couldn't get a Transit to cross from Block Apex Gate to Ramp 1.
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I stopped at this ooint, fearing I was chasing down the wrong path to getting my trains to stage properly/
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I saw a YouTube video of a Brit having his trains stop before a train alredy in staging track and moe forwatd automatically when the train ahead departs.? Trouble is, he showed the rains stopping aand moving, but no display of the JMRI setup.
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Bill
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
Thanks you both for the replies.? I'm very thankful for the effort to solve my questions.? I'll work on them later today if I can.
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Tony, I have my panel set up with Blocks and Sections, and was working on Transits.? A couple of the Turnouts are in Blocks by themselves, but most of them are part of the Block on the points side of the turnout.? I can't wire them separately at this point.? I've never heard of Ghost Blocks.? I also use only the stable versions of JMRI.? I will look into your suggestions.? I will look this up when I get chance.
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Dave, I will also get the layout uploaded later today.? I should have thought of uploading it, you and others helped me once before by doing that.? Per your question, I ran into the continuing route problem on the Layout Panel, trying to get the Transit to exit Block Apex Gate via LT501 into Block Ramp 1.? It only offered diverging route Ramp 2.? I also noted that trying to go the reverse direction, a Transit exiting Block Ramp1 and intending to continue into Block Apex Gate.? The Apex Gate Block was not available.? Astoundingly, though, exiting turnout LT501 via Ramp 2, the diverging route, was available.? quite a tight turn!
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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive
#dispatcher
Ken,
How do you do that? Threre is nothing to terminate in the transit definition, only on the "create new train" screen.
JeanLouisDelestre@...
De: "Ken Heywood via groups.io" <kheywood@...> ?: [email protected]贰苍惫辞测é: Mardi 25 Mars 2025 16:55:18 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Chaining transits with a different locomotive #dispatcher You need to terminate Transit A in the last step of the transit.
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DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
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Re: Serial port issue with CMRI using Windows 10- JMRI crashes
#cmri
Ken,
My experience is that making a big leap is not an issue with panels, unless custom items are out of place.
The problems are in the base JMRI directory, such as C:\Users\<username>\JMRI. ?There have been a lot of changes in profile handling since they were introduced in JMRI 3.8. ?
I have helped two local layouts upgrade from 3.10 to 5.x. ?The JMRI data directory is renamed. ?After removing and installing Java and JMRI, PanelPro is started which creates the default My JMRI Railroad profile. ?For these layouts, the roster directory and the layout data xml file are copied from the old directory. ?After rebuilding the roster index, the data flle is loaded and stored. ?
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Serial port issue with CMRI using Windows 10- JMRI crashes
Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2025 10:29 AM
Op:
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I’ve got a feeling the biggest issue with getting up to date on your layout is many things were put in directories that conflict with newer versions. In short, everything for your layout should be in the JMRI directory in the home directory of the login user. At the least, that’s the connection information and the panel file. But long time ago, many users put custom icons and similar things into the JMRI directory under the \Program Files\ path.
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Does this sound like a description that fits?
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-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive
#dispatcher
You need to terminate Transit A in the last step of the transit.
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Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.4 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
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Re: Serial port issue with CMRI using Windows 10- JMRI crashes
#cmri
Op: ? I’ve got a feeling the biggest issue with getting up to date on your layout is many things were put in directories that conflict with newer versions. In short, everything for your layout should be in the JMRI directory in the home directory of the login user. At the least, that’s the connection information and the panel file. But long time ago, many users put custom icons and similar things into the JMRI directory under the \Program Files\ path. ? Does this sound like a description that fits? ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive
#dispatcher
Jean
I will take a look at it this aft/eve
Steve G.
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Re: Serial port issue with CMRI using Windows 10- JMRI crashes
#cmri
Have you tried using an emulator to run XP on W10?
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In theory, you could upgrade JMRI/Java step by step until you reach a version that would have panels compatible with the latest.??
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Another possibility, is if you get that to work, you might have to make W7 an interim step to the upgrades.
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Then try copying the panel files over.
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Perhaps the Devs could give the insight needed to see if this would work.
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Re: Can‘t Connect WiThrottle with PanelPro WiFi server
a)? which "server" ?? ?the JMRI WebServer is for panels,? the WiThrottle Server is for the Withrottle service,? they are different.? ?There are other JMRI servers as well as those two.? ?(And there isn't anything called a JMRI "WiFi server" ).
b)? check your PC's "firewall" settings, they could be blocking things.??
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Date 25/03/2025 14:02:51
Subject [jmriusers] Can‘t Connect WiThrottle with PanelPro WiFi server
Gentlemen,
?using latest version of PanelPro, Digitrax, Windows 11. ?I am unable to connect with WiThrottle App to control engines. I have a good connection either the Internet, and all other Apps on my iPhone function.?
When I open PanelPro a window opens that indicates the server is listening on a certain IP address which has functioned in the past. This failure is new.?
what‘s up?
Ed Nowicki
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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive
#dispatcher
Ken,
That is what I'm doing.
I run a transit A with a locomotive A, then I terminale transit A and load transit B with? a locomotive B. The transit B execute OK except that dispatcher is still running locomotive A.? That is maybe That is? laybe I use reverse at end in transit A?
? What do tou think? JeanLouisDelestre@...
De: "Ken Heywood via groups.io" <kheywood@...> ?: [email protected]贰苍惫辞测é: Mardi 25 Mars 2025 10:13:08 Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Chaining transits with a different locomotive #dispatcher So, you are not continuing this train with a new transit, you are in a "tag-team" with another train.
That is, somewhere in the middle or end of Transit A you want to run a different train on Transit B.
If you built transits with a 1:1 correspondence with trainonfo files, you can specify the locomotive in traininfo.
When you "load traininfo B" action in transit A and that traininfo file B specifies locomotive B, then Transit B will run loco B.
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Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.1 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
Blog: ?
Youtube:
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Jean-Louis Paris-France
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JRMI 5.9.5 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
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Can‘t Connect WiThrottle with PanelPro WiFi server
Gentlemen,
?using latest version of PanelPro, Digitrax, Windows 11. ?I am unable to connect with WiThrottle App to control engines. I have a good connection either the Internet, and all other Apps on my iPhone function.?
When I open PanelPro a window opens that indicates the server is listening on a certain IP address which has functioned in the past. This failure is new.?
what‘s up?
Ed Nowicki
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I found Oracle JAVA to be really invasive.
It peppers stuff all over the place.
The only clean way to get rid of it is to use the Oracle removal tool.
I did that, then loaded Azul.
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Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.1 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
Blog: ?
Youtube:
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Re: Chaining transits with a different locomotive
#dispatcher
So, you are not continuing this train with a new transit, you are in a "tag-team" with another train.
That is, somewhere in the middle or end of Transit A you want to run a different train on Transit B.
If you built transits with a 1:1 correspondence with trainonfo files, you can specify the locomotive in traininfo.
When you "load traininfo B" action in transit A and that traininfo file B specifies locomotive B, then Transit B will run loco B.
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Ken NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959) Loconet * JMRI 5.11.1 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
Blog: ?
Youtube:
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
If you upload the layout data xml file to the group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder we can review what you have done so far. ?Which turnout has the issue with the continuing route?
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Automatic Dispatching
Date: Monday, March 24, 2025 9:25 PM
I've tried several different ways to get trains to run automatically, but I keep running into ( maybe I should say "creating my own") roadblocks.? At 83, I'm not sure how many more wrong ways to do it I can afford to try.
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I've set signal heads all around the layout.? I try to set Blocks, Sections and a Transit to run a train and I get it set to go through several Sections, but then I get to a turnout and it will allow me to set the diverging route out, but the continuing route isn't available.? I can't find what's different between the Block on he diverging leg and the one on the continuing leg of the turnout.
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So, I read some of the JMRI documentation and decided to try using Signal Masts and letting JMRI set up Sections and Transits on the fly.? I took a portion of the Panel and deleted the signal heads around a turnout to use the Set Signal Masts menu.? It sets the Masts for both routes entering the frog end of the turnout, but there's no option to set a Mast with signals for the points end of the same turnout.
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Before I waste any more time on rabbit holes, can someone steer me to the easiest way to set up my goals?? Or point me at the page in the JMRI documents where I can read the proper steps to take and the order to build it?
I'd like to:
1.? Be able to send a train autonomously from the modeled layout into a specific staging track.
2.? Be able to have trains scheduled to come out of staging into the modeled area at preprogrammed clock times or upon specified events.
3.? Be able to manually trigger a train in staging? by selecting either the train or the track it's on and select where it needs to go.
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This forum has been so great thanks to the helpful folks here who have been so willing to share their time and experience.
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Re: Java version 21.0.6
#java
Thank you Peter.?? I see you are running that combination.? I will probably change to JMRI 5.11.4+, as I could be affected by the NCE consist backup/restore issue.
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Dave Morgan
https://www.tcmr.club/
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Re: Java version 21.0.6
#java
Keep using Java 21 unless you run into issues. If you do have issues, please report them. -- Peter Ulvestad Linux Mint 22.1, JMRI 5.11.4plus, Java 21.0.6 JMRI Users Group Moderator ( /g/jmriusers ) JMRI Developers Group Moderator ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Java version 21.0.6
#java
I have just upgraded the club computer to Linux Mint 22.? As part of that upgrade, the system installed Java version 21.0.6.?? The JMRI version installed is5.2.?? I plan to upgrade it to 5.10.? Will that version of JMRI be compatible with java 21, or do I need to change to java 17??? I don't see that java 21 is recommended on the JMRI website.
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Dave Morgan
https://www.tcmr.club/
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Re: Automatic Dispatching
Did you do the following Create train length blocks / make each block into a section / create a layout panel without any switches / create the blocks physically by isolating the ends of each block and add detection to each block / physically on the actual layout ?include the switches you have at the end of a block / create sml virtual signals at the ends of every block on the layout panel-no real signals are needed / create transits /run trains.
That will enable you to run trains automatically from one point to an end point or continuously in loops including trains chasing each other.
If you want to use switching then create a second layout panel. ?Without changing your wiring physically now create a second layout panel with every switch in its own block. Create ghost blocks for the switches-need latest test version of jmri software. Or use logix to tell the virtual blocks you put switches in when to occupy them.
Tony
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On Mar 24, 2025, at 10:25?PM, sontrak via groups.io <sontrak@...> wrote:
? I've tried several different ways to get trains to run automatically, but I keep running into ( maybe I should say "creating my own") roadblocks.? At 83, I'm not sure how many more wrong ways to do it I can afford to try.
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I've set signal heads all around the layout.? I try to set Blocks, Sections and a Transit to run a train and I get it set to go through several Sections, but then I get to a turnout and it will allow me to set the diverging route out, but the continuing route isn't available.? I can't find what's different between the Block on he diverging leg and the one on the continuing leg of the turnout.
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So, I read some of the JMRI documentation and decided to try using Signal Masts and letting JMRI set up Sections and Transits on the fly.? I took a portion of the Panel and deleted the signal heads around a turnout to use the Set Signal Masts menu.? It sets the Masts for both routes entering the frog end of the turnout, but there's no option to set a Mast with signals for the points end of the same turnout.
?
Before I waste any more time on rabbit holes, can someone steer me to the easiest way to set up my goals?? Or point me at the page in the JMRI documents where I can read the proper steps to take and the order to build it?
I'd like to:
1.? Be able to send a train autonomously from the modeled layout into a specific staging track.
2.? Be able to have trains scheduled to come out of staging into the modeled area at preprogrammed clock times or upon specified events.
3.? Be able to manually trigger a train in staging? by selecting either the train or the track it's on and select where it needs to go.
?
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This forum has been so great thanks to the helpful folks here who have been so willing to share their time and experience.
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Ken Cameron
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