On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 10:36 PM, Noel Purdey wrote:
Just wondering, where do I find the ‘track analysis tool’?
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Dan
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Hello All
After a year away im back into it,and starting to put layout into jrmi,thanks to all who devolop it.
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I have added sensors before and had them working but this time not so good
Ihave all? NCE equipment,via usb all good there
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I have added a basic Layout in Panel Editor ,added turnouts now onto sensors
I open sensor tab,give the sensor a name,in this case 4(aui01)and the input 6.
A green tick appears,but when i activate the sensor nothing shows
What step am i missing.I tried manually setting to active but didnt help.
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Is it a case of not getting the right info to jrmi?
Thanks for your time
Brett
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Re: Frequently Asked Questions/Topics/Official Announcements?
Sticky is all very well for people using the group's web interface. I don't, and I'm sure there are many like me who just let the messages arrive in email form, either individually or as digests.
Might be worth a poll.
Personally, I think a faq on the jmri site is a lot more useful, and the standard questions could than be handled with a reply in the form of a single link.
Doing that lists the messages singly, not threaded. Personally, I don't find that a useful format whatsoever.
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I agree with Andy - Move the stickies somewhere else, maybe leaving one sticky with a pointer to the rest. Some of the sticky content is already duplicated in the Wiki, why not put the rest there? Absolutely none of the other fora I follow, either on or elsewhere, whether MRR related or my other hobbies, are similarly cluttered.
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Besides, considering some of the posts I've seen (not just here), I doubt many people look at the stickies anyway.
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Steve
"Breezlys"
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On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 01:58 PM, Peter Ulvestad wrote:
I never see those first.
Change topics to messages and at the top right click on date so it shows the newest messages first.
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Re: Frequently Asked Questions/Topics/Official Announcements?
Doing that lists the messages singly, not threaded. Personally, I don't find that a useful format whatsoever.
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I agree with Andy - Move the stickies somewhere else, maybe leaving one sticky with a pointer to the rest. Some of the sticky content is already duplicated in the Wiki, why not put the rest there? Absolutely none of the other fora I follow, either on groups.io or elsewhere, whether MRR related or my other hobbies, are similarly cluttered.
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Besides, considering some of the posts I've seen (not just here), I doubt many people look at the stickies anyway.
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Steve
"Breezlys"
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On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 01:58 PM, Peter Ulvestad wrote:
I never see those first.
Change topics to messages and at the top right click on date so it shows the newest messages first.
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Peter Ulvestad
Linux Mint 22.1, JMRI 5.11.3plus, Java 21.0.5
JMRI Users Group Moderator ( /g/jmriusers )
JMRI Developers Group Moderator ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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On 3/8/2025 10:10 PM, Leaving DC behind via groups.io wrote: Ok ladies and gents, I have a layout drawn up and in JMRI. I can pull the panel up use all the turnouts from the panel all this works great. My question after operating on a few different layouts. How do I get the panels to load once I select the profile I want for the panels to come up without having to select the file of the panels. I have the start up instructions set but what am I missing. I’ve seen several iterations once the profile is selected it brings up the panels belonging to that profile without actually having to select the files. Fr a given JMRI profile: "Edit"->"Preferences"->"Start Up". operate the "Add" button, and select "Load table content and panels...". Select the appropriate ".XML" file. "Save" the preferences. (BTW: If you will want to open any of the "Tools"->"Tables" windows as part of the JMRI "Start Up" preferences, be sure to add those windows _after_ loading the "XML" file. Why? If you open any of the "Tables" "windows" before loading the ".XML" file, the display of the table will likely re-sort all of the objects _for each and every object_, which can be very slow. instead, if the objects are loaded first, before the Table's window is opened, the process of opening the window only needs to be "sorted" one time.)
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Stewart,
The version you showed is the Java version. ?The JMRI version will be 5.something.
Edge Connector "links" are connections between two blocks. ?For example,
Panel 1 :: ?track segment (block A) -> EC [link] EC -> track segment (block Q) :: Panel 2
Dave Sand
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Subject: [jmriusers] Edge Connectors in Layout Editor. #layouteditor
Date: Saturday, March 08, 2025 9:26 PM
Hi, I am developing two Layout Panels for my two-level layout. I have added an Edge Connector on each Panel for the connecting track between the two panels. When I try to "Edit Link" to connect the Panels, nothing happens. No Dialogue Box appears. Has this occurred to others, and is there a fix? The JMRI version I am using is 17.0.13.
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Cheers,
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Stewart
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Gents, ? Just wondering, where do I find the ‘track analysis tool’? ? I do not seem to be able to find it. ? Noel ?
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Track Analysis Tool #operationspro? however I do need to add flatcars and gondolas as they were down below 20% in total of all track types.
Not a good reason to add them.? It only means that your flatcars can only take 20% of the available track space, or 1/5 five cars could be a flatcar going to one of those track types.? I wouldn't change a thing. With regards to boxcars, I agree with you, you might have a few too many!
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years ago i backed up my PowerPro command station into JMRI ? It copied any macros and other data from the command station to a file in JMRI. Now I can’t find it
Could someone explain the process to backup the command station?
Thanks Jim Little MMR?
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Hi, I am developing two Layout Panels for my two-level layout. I have added an Edge Connector on each Panel for the connecting track between the two panels. When I try to "Edit Link" to connect the Panels, nothing happens. No Dialogue Box appears. Has this occurred to others, and is there a fix? The JMRI version I am using is 17.0.13.
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Cheers,
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Stewart
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Ok ladies and gents, I have a layout drawn up and in JMRI. I can pull the panel up use all the turnouts from the panel all this works great. My question after operating on a few different layouts. How do I get the panels to load once I select the profile I want for the panels to come up without having to select the file of the panels. I have the start up instructions set but what am I missing. I’ve seen several iterations once the profile is selected it brings up the panels belonging to that profile without actually having to select the files.
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
#nce
#windows
I have all of the jumpers removed from the USB board.(I read that in a NCE tech note).
I will get the log data when I get home.
_____________________________________________ Bill Suarez - +1 508-735-7877 - wsuarez@...
Bill S, ? Looking deeper into the code, I see I need to know more things. I’ll recap: - System console so I can see:
- Version of JMRI
- Version returned by the NCE USB
- The logged error message
- NCE command station firmware version id
- That’s either 1.28something or 1.65something.
? But so far it is looking like you may not have the right jumper settings in the NCE USB and the version ID it is giving doesn’t match what it should be for the SB5 system. But depending on which jumper settings, the baud rate may also need
to change to match what it expects. ? But with the details above, I can guide the right answers. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
#nce
#windows
Bill S, ? Looking deeper into the code, I see I need to know more things. I’ll recap: - System console so I can see:
- Version of JMRI
- Version returned by the NCE USB
- The logged error message
- NCE command station firmware version id
- That’s either 1.28something or 1.65something.
? But so far it is looking like you may not have the right jumper settings in the NCE USB and the version ID it is giving doesn’t match what it should be for the SB5 system. But depending on which jumper settings, the baud rate may also need to change to match what it expects. ? But with the details above, I can guide the right answers. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: command centre same loconet operation over and over and over and over in a loop
Thanks, Dick Bronson, Would have never thought that would be the issue. If you can have an Unscheduled Disassembly of a rocket mid flight (twice in 2 month)
I guess the New "Buffer Dump" Feature isn't that bad in comparison.
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Is this the beginning of the New Dark Ages?
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Inobu
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Speed testing, Sensors, Speedometer output
#scripting
As I posted a few weeks ago, I'm setting up a speed matching loop.? Using 8 BD-20 NCE detectors, 1 AIU, PH-Pro, RS-232 to computer running JMRI (Windows 11 OS).
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Using the Ultimate Speed Matching (USM) scripts as a basis, modifications seem to be working well with the following exceptions:
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Speed measurements can be all over the place due to "bounce" on the detectors.? The JMRI Speedometer Tool seems to not see this as much (doing exit to exit on the tool).? So will adding de-bounce to the 8 sensors help?? Do I use active bounce, inactive bounce, both?? Does this change the factors for calculating speeds since in the script, it's looking for sensors changed?
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Is there a way for the USM script to open up the speedometer windows and provide an output back to the USM script.? In other words, is there a way in the USM script to call the speedometer and get the result back to use rather than the timers used in the USM script?
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Another couple anomalies:
--? After the script is complete, I then run the loco at the speed steps and measure the expected speed and it seems to run a couple mph slower than during the script.
--? Has anyone figured out how to speed match with an ESU decoder where SS28 is always 255 and the top of the curve is adjusted with CV5 and the rest of CV67-94 are proportional?
--? Using the 3rd lowest measured speed seems to be a short cut.? Has anyone taken the measured speeds, throw out the top two and bottom two and return the average speed?
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I have a current methodology to manually set the speed table by running the loco at SS 5, 10, 15, 20, 24, 28 and entering the measured speed into a spreadsheet that then tells me what setting to set each of those to in order to get the desired speeds (my standard is 10, 20, 30, 40, 55, 70 at those SS).? After I get more of the bugs worked out of the modified USM script, I'll take a turn at trying this method.
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Phil Hartung?
Idaho Falls, ID
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
#nce
#windows
Bill S, ? I confirmed by looking at the code that I need to see the system log of that startup to give you a correct explanation. But the general statement is the code is seeing a version number coming back from the interface that doesn’t match with the settings in the connection. But I’m thinking the message in the popup window may be misleading as currently worded. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
#nce
#windows
Bill S, ? This message happens with the ID from the connection, like 6.2.1, doesn’t agree with your settings. Please post the console log from your startup (before making any changes) so I can confirm that code made the right decision. What I am looking for is the line that looks like this: ? 17:53:35,155 jmri.jmrix.nce.NceConnectionStatus??? INFO? - NCE: NCE EPROM revision = 6.2.1 [AWT-EventQueue-0] The value after the equals is the trigger. Knowing what you had set in the preferences and matching to that code will figure this out. ? I’ll also need to know which jumpers you set on the NCE USB to confirm it worked correctly or not. ? -Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
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Re: command centre same loconet operation over and over and over and over in a loop
Thanks everyone Dick’s suggestion about turning on track power was my problem. ?I was so use to resetting all my turnouts to their default positions before turning on track power I never tried that solution. ? With the Dcs100 I would power up the layout reset all switch's to their default and than turn on track power, need to learn a new routine now for the dcs210+
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
#nce
#windows
Well I just tried use Power Cab (like it says) even though I have an SB5 and the message didn’t appear again so I am going to try and read a locomotive. ? Very strange as under Windows 10 it did work as SB5. ?
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module? SB5 Wouter. ? I’m going to try some of the other device types to see if that makes a difference. ? ? What is your command station? ? Thanks. I am using USB A to USB B cable into NCE USB adapter. ? I will verify Java version. ? ? One year ago I upgraded to W11 with NCE hardware. I had to use Java21 to get it to work. Serial connector to USB cable worked best. ? Does not seem to matter what I choose on the preferences page, which does see COM3 as the option I am choosing. No jumpers on the board at all as the instructions indicate. I have tried both 6.x.x and 7.x.x with no change.
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
#nce
#windows
SB5 Wouter. ? I’m going to try some of the other device types to see if that makes a difference. ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of whmvd via groups.io
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module? What is your command station? ? Thanks. I am using USB A to USB B cable into NCE USB adapter. ? I will verify Java version. ? ? One year ago I upgraded to W11 with NCE hardware. I had to use Java21 to get it to work. Serial connector to USB cable worked best. ? Does not seem to matter what I choose on the preferences page, which does see COM3 as the option I am choosing. No jumpers on the board at all as the instructions indicate. I have tried both 6.x.x and 7.x.x with no change.
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Re: After Windows 11 upgrade I can no longer communicate via NCE USB module
#nce
#windows
Bill
What is your command station?
Wouter
Thanks. I am using USB A to USB B cable into NCE USB adapter. ? I will verify Java version. ? ? One year ago I upgraded to W11 with NCE hardware. I had to use Java21 to get it to work. Serial connector to USB cable worked best. ? Does not seem to matter what I choose on the preferences page, which does see COM3 as the option I am choosing. No jumpers on the board at all as the instructions indicate. I have tried both 6.x.x and 7.x.x with no change.
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Ken Cameron