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Re: setting up new blocks
Larry, LocoNet can have occupancy sensors, LS system name prefix, which are then assigned to JMRI Blocks. Blocks in JMRI are always "internal" with the "IB" prefix for the system name. For use with a Layout Editor panel, a user name for each block is required. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: Larry <LARRY.CRAIGIE@...> Subject: [jmriusers] setting up new blocks Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 2:55 PM Why when setting up a new layout in panel pro will it not give me the option of creating Loconet blocks, only simulator blocks? |
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setting up new blocks
Why when setting up a new layout in panel pro will it not give me the option of creating Loconet blocks, only simulator blocks?
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I’d talk to Zimo direct. They’re really helpfulSomething at the back of my mind is ringing bells. I had a similar issue with one SPECIFIC momentum multiplier - but I can’t remember which version of their firmware this was
Using the Zimo decoder docs, make your changes on the appropriate tabs in DecoderPro THEN check the cv tab has the right value for the specific cv
If it doesn’t, it’s a DecoderPro issue. If it does, and the loco still behaves weirdly, it’s a Zimo issue
Phil G
PS Everything you need is at On 16 Nov 2024, at 20:33, Josh Swales via groups.io <jrs.swales@...> wrote:
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Good evening,
I have a case of some Zimo decoders behaving strangely. I am running JMRI 5.8 on an RPi.
On my Zimo decoders I like to add in the reduced momentum function. In the past, I’ve done this through the ‘Shunting/Uncoupling� tab and it’s worked fine. However, I tried to do this on a Zimo MN170 decoder running Zimo version 4 software, and while the loco responds with reduced momentum when accelerating, on decelerating it seems to ignore the reduced momentum and instead it decelerates at a rate according to the Value of CV4.
I had this issue with a Zimo MN180N18, also running software v40,instead of using the ‘Shunting� tab, I programmed in the reduced momentum using the new section in the ‘Acceleration & deceleration� tab, and that decoder responded as expected with the reduced momentum. However, the issue persists with the MN170, and also a MX619 running software v39.
Any advice or suggestions will be greatly appreciated
Kind regards
Josh Swales
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Re: EngineDriver Beta v2.38.189 now available from the Play Store
#enginedriver
CE, Steve Todd's server works for me. Are you sure you're connected to the Internet? On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 10:21 AM CEFinkJr via <CEFinkJr=[email protected]> wrote:
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This sort of nonsense happens with various applications: windows with the
title bar off the top of the screen. I don't use the default window manager, instead I use fvwm2 and have a binding for middle button on the root window to bring up a menu of window manager actions, including "Move", which I use to move badly placed windows, I don't know if the stock window manager has any config options for things like pointer bindings on the root window, but if it did, that would be a place to look for a setting to allow you to move windows with the title bar off screen. I think this might be some kind of bug (?) somewhere in the window placement hints. Sometimes applications also manage to come up with window sizes that are too tall for the screen -- often that is a UI design error, either having too many things in the UI (buttons and stuff) maybe assuming a higher res screen than what I actually have (yes, not all of use have 4K screens and use tiny fonts by default). At Sat, 16 Nov 2024 17:22:34 +0000 "Phil G via groups.io" <phil@...> wrote: -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services -- Linux Administration Services heller@... -- Webhosting Services |
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David, When you add the turnout to the panel, you can change the icons. If it is already on the panel, use "Edit Turnout Icon" from the pop-up menu. JMRI generally does not know about left-hand/right-hand turnouts. The Turnouts table only has the state. SML discovery does know about LH/RH turnouts which is combined with the Continuing State. Manual SML relies on valid data being supplied. I have a very simple rule: Switch machines are wired to set the turnout closed "route" when the JMRI turnout table entry is closed without using invert. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "David Klemm via groups.io" <davidklemm7511=[email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 10:26 AM Dave, 'This' meant the email and the Continuing Route Turnout State setting. By 'you just swap the Closed and Thrown icons' are you saying change the turnout icon? So even though it is a right hand use a left hand to get the indication needed? With a right hand turnout I am trying to get the top head to show the diverging route and the lower head to show the through route. David From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Sand <ds@...> Sent:Saturday, November 16, 2024 10:06 AM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml David, By "this" do you mean the continuing route setting? If so, that is a Layout Editor feature. For Panel Editor and Control Panel Editor, you just swap the Closed and Thrown icons. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "David Klemm via groups.io" <davidklemm7511=[email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 9:49 AM Dave, I had booked marked this as we have a similar situation at the club where the main is on the diveraging track. We use Panel Editor and Signal Mast. I can't find this option within the turnout or signal mast settings. Is it not available in this situation? Thanks David Sent:Sunday, September 29, 2024 4:07 PM Subject:Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Ken, Your last upload was good. I have some initial comments. LT1 is a left hand turnout, but you want the diverging leg to be the normal route. In Layout Editor this is done by using the Continuing Route Turnout State option. By setting the option to Thrown, Layout Editor will show the diverging leg as the Closed position. The Turnout table and related logic do not have left-hand or right-hand concepts. They deal with Closed and Thrown, whatever that means. My rule is that switch machines are wired so that the JMRI Closed state matches the expected physical turnout state.
You appear to have two groups of occupancy sensors, a low number range and a 400 number range. What are the differences? Signal masts LT01(B) and LT01(C) are reversed on the panel. They are attached to block boundaries defined by the turnout legs, not the logical position as above. The LT25 signal mast icons are not on the panel but they are attached to the block boundaries. This can be confusing. This is easily fixed by selecting Set Signal Masts for LT25 and selecting Right Hand Side for each mast and clicking on Done. A lot of the signal mast logic is incorrect. I suspect this is causing the lack of signal response as a locomotive runs around the layout. Whenever the block topology has been changed, the affected signal masts have to have the SML updated. Sometimes a small changed requires updates to the SML for several signal masts in either direction. At this point I recommend running the GrandReset.py script. The script deletes the transits, sections, SML and block paths. After doing a store and quit, restart PanelPro and load the updated file. The first step is to go to the Signal Mast Logic table
and do the Auto Generate Signaling Pairs. At this point, I would not bother with Sections and Transits. The first goal is to get consistent signaling based on train movements. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: Ken Fordham <j.kenneth.fordman@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Date: Thursday, September 26, 2024 6:24 PM Hi Dave There are 3 files on problems being worked on. All are not good? I will send another file tonight or tomorrow morning. Sorry for all this confusion. Best KenF |
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HmmI need to dig deeper. JMRI (for me)does create windows where the title bar is off the top of the screen area - so impossible to resize or close (I can use the “close� context menu item of the windows taskbar image though)
I’m running Bookworm on a RasPi with JAVA 17
Phil G On 16 Nov 2024, at 17:01, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
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Re: EngineDriver Beta v2.38.189 now available from the Play Store
#enginedriver
Because of an old quirk of mine (I like to see what's being updated before I accept any updates), my elderly Android phone is not set to automatically receive and apply updates. I was still in bed when I saw that "Engine Driver Throttle" was to be updated. trying to investigate this difference sent my phone into the electronic equivalent of an epileptic fit with the screen quivering uncontrollably vertically and horizontally. I have seen this before so I'm sure it had nothing to do with Engine Driver or Engine Driver Throttle.
However, after stopping the quivering (by restarting the phone), I discovered that I could not reply to any JMRI User Group post. Thiscould be something in the posts that Outlook for Android or Duck Duck Go didn't like or didn't know how to handle. I am now using a more robust laptop and replying appears to be functioning properly although it did complain initially about my password having expired.
Now, about that "Engine Driver" vs "Engine DriverThrottle" question. After applying the 'update', the Throttle part has disappeared. The 'update' seems to have been a 'replacement'. I'm about halfway through chemotherapy treatments following surgery in June'. Because of this, I'm mostly house bound without access to a server so I can't do much more than open Engine Driver and look at the Help. It might help if I could access jmri.mstevetodd.com :44444 (from my Recent Servers list} but all I get is a "Can't connect ... " message. Is the site not up or is :44444 port specification obsolete.? |
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Phil, JMRI uses the screen area as reported by Java and the OS. On Ubuntu 24.04 using Java 17, to resize a JMRI window requires using the Resize menu item show by right clicking on the window title bar. Dragging the edges of the window does not work. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "Phil G via groups.io" <phil=[email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] New Profile window too large for screen Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 10:32 AM I know, but if I want to view two roster entries in the same session, I really don’t want to have to quit JMRI every time I make a change Is it really not possible to keep windows within the screen area? Phil G
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I know, but if I want to view two roster entries in the same session, I really don’t want to have to quit JMRI every time I make a changeIs it really not possible to keep windows within the screen area?
Phil G On 16 Nov 2024, at 15:45, Dave Sand via groups.io <ds@...> wrote:
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Dave,
'This' meant the email and the Continuing Route Turnout State setting.
By 'you just swap the Closed and Thrown icons' are you saying change the turnout icon? So even though it is a right hand use a left hand to get the indication needed?
With a right hand turnout I am trying to get the top head to show the diverging route and the lower head to show the through route.
David
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Sand <ds@...>
Sent:Saturday, November 16, 2024 10:06 AM To:[email protected] <[email protected]> Subject:Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml David,
By "this" do you mean the continuing route setting? If so, that is a Layout Editor feature.
For Panel Editor and Control Panel Editor, you just swap the Closed and Thrown icons.
Dave Sand
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From: "David Klemm via groups.io" <davidklemm7511=[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml
Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 9:49 AM
Dave,
I had booked marked this as we have a similar situation at the club where the main is on the diveraging track. We use Panel Editor and Signal Mast. I can't find this option within the turnout or signal mast settings. Is it not available in this situation?
Thanks
David
From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Sand <ds@...>
Sent:Sunday, September 29, 2024 4:07 PM
Subject:Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml
Ken,
Your last upload was good. I have some initial comments.
LT1 is a left hand turnout, but you want the diverging leg to be the normal route. In Layout Editor this is done by using the Continuing Route Turnout State option.
By setting the option to Thrown, Layout Editor will show the diverging leg as the Closed position.
The Turnout table and related logic do not have left-hand or right-hand concepts. They deal with Closed and Thrown, whatever that means. My rule is that switch machines are wired so that the JMRI Closed state matches the expected physical turnout state.
You appear to have two groups of occupancy sensors, a low number range and a 400 number range. What are the differences?
Signal masts LT01(B) and LT01(C) are reversed on the panel. They are attached to block boundaries defined by the turnout legs, not the logical position as above.
The LT25 signal mast icons are not on the panel but they are attached to the block boundaries. This can be confusing. This is easily fixed by selecting Set Signal Masts for LT25 and selecting Right Hand Side for each mast and clicking on Done.
A lot of the signal mast logic is incorrect. I suspect this is causing the lack of signal response as a locomotive runs around the layout.
Whenever the block topology has been changed, the affected signal masts have to have the SML updated. Sometimes a small changed requires updates to the SML for several signal masts in either direction.
At this point I recommend running the GrandReset.py script. The script deletes the transits, sections, SML and block paths. After doing a store and quit, restart PanelPro and load the updated file. The first step is to go to the Signal Mast Logic table
and do the Auto Generate Signaling Pairs.
At this point, I would not bother with Sections and Transits. The first goal is to get consistent signaling based on train movements.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
From: Ken Fordham <j.kenneth.fordman@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2024 6:24 PM
Hi Dave
There are 3 files on problems being worked on. All are not good?
I will send another file tonight or tomorrow morning.
Sorry for all this confusion.
Best
KenF
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Re: Moving markers
Chuck, The right mouse button displays the pop-up menu. You use the "command" or "option" button and left mouse button. If I recall correctly, this about the time that mouse handling was standardized to handle some Windows issues. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "Chuck Batherson via groups.io" <cascobaynorthern=[email protected]> Subject: [jmriusers] Moving markers Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 7:46 AM When I was on JMRI 4.18 and a MAC, I could move a marker by using “command and left mouse button� or the “right mouse button� by itself. Now on ver. 4.26 my only choice seems to be the “command and right mouse button�, Is there anyway to change this back. Using the command button is very annoying. Chuck Batherson |
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David, By "this" do you mean the continuing route setting? If so, that is a Layout Editor feature. For Panel Editor and Control Panel Editor, you just swap the Closed and Thrown icons. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "David Klemm via groups.io" <davidklemm7511=[email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 9:49 AM Dave, I had booked marked this as we have a similar situation at the club where the main is on the diveraging track. We use Panel Editor and Signal Mast. I can't find this option within the turnout or signal mast settings. Is it not available in this situation? Thanks David Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2024 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Ken, Your last upload was good. I have some initial comments. LT1 is a left hand turnout, but you want the diverging leg to be the normal route. In Layout Editor this is done by using the Continuing Route Turnout State option. By setting the option to Thrown, Layout Editor will show the diverging leg as the Closed position. The Turnout table and related logic do not have left-hand or right-hand concepts. They deal with Closed and Thrown, whatever that means. My rule is that switch machines are wired so that the JMRI Closed state matches the expected physical turnout state.
You appear to have two groups of occupancy sensors, a low number range and a 400 number range. What are the differences? Signal masts LT01(B) and LT01(C) are reversed on the panel. They are attached to block boundaries defined by the turnout legs, not the logical position as above. The LT25 signal mast icons are not on the panel but they are attached to the block boundaries. This can be confusing. This is easily fixed by selecting Set Signal Masts for LT25 and selecting Right Hand Side for each mast and clicking on Done. A lot of the signal mast logic is incorrect. I suspect this is causing the lack of signal response as a locomotive runs around the layout. Whenever the block topology has been changed, the affected signal masts have to have the SML updated. Sometimes a small changed requires updates to the SML for several signal masts in either direction. At this point I recommend running the GrandReset.py script. The script deletes the transits, sections, SML and block paths. After doing a store and quit, restart PanelPro and load the updated file. The first step is to go to the Signal Mast Logic table
and do the Auto Generate Signaling Pairs. At this point, I would not bother with Sections and Transits. The first goal is to get consistent signaling based on train movements. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: Ken Fordham <j.kenneth.fordman@...> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Date: Thursday, September 26, 2024 6:24 PM Hi Dave There are 3 files on problems being worked on. All are not good? I will send another file tonight or tomorrow morning. Sorry for all this confusion. Best KenF |
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Dave,
I had booked marked this as we have a similar situation at the club where the main is on the diveraging track. We use Panel Editor and Signal Mast. I can't find this option within the turnout or signal mast settings. Is it not available in this situation?
Thanks
David
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dave Sand <ds@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2024 4:07 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml Ken,
Your last upload was good. I have some initial comments.
LT1 is a left hand turnout, but you want the diverging leg to be the normal route. In Layout Editor this is done by using the Continuing Route Turnout State option.
By setting the option to Thrown, Layout Editor will show the diverging leg as the Closed position.
The Turnout table and related logic do not have left-hand or right-hand concepts. They deal with Closed and Thrown, whatever that means. My rule is that switch machines are wired so that the JMRI Closed state matches the expected physical turnout state.
You appear to have two groups of occupancy sensors, a low number range and a 400 number range. What are the differences?
Signal masts LT01(B) and LT01(C) are reversed on the panel. They are attached to block boundaries defined by the turnout legs, not the logical position as above.
The LT25 signal mast icons are not on the panel but they are attached to the block boundaries. This can be confusing. This is easily fixed by selecting Set Signal Masts for LT25 and selecting Right Hand Side for each mast and clicking on Done.
A lot of the signal mast logic is incorrect. I suspect this is causing the lack of signal response as a locomotive runs around the layout.
Whenever the block topology has been changed, the affected signal masts have to have the SML updated. Sometimes a small changed requires updates to the SML for several signal masts in either direction.
At this point I recommend running the GrandReset.py script. The script deletes the transits, sections, SML and block paths. After doing a store and quit, restart PanelPro and load the updated file. The first step is to go to the Signal Mast Logic table
and do the Auto Generate Signaling Pairs.
At this point, I would not bother with Sections and Transits. The first goal is to get consistent signaling based on train movements.
Dave Sand
----- Original message -----
From: Ken Fordham <j.kenneth.fordman@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml
Date: Thursday, September 26, 2024 6:24 PM
Hi Dave
There are 3 files on problems being worked on. All are not good?
I will send another file tonight or tomorrow morning.
Sorry for all this confusion.
Best
KenF
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Re: EngineDriver Beta v2.38.189 now available from the Play Store
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Wow - thank you Peter for all the work on this new version.
I can't wait to try out the new features.
- John Geddes
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Phil, It is possible to do an indirect save. After setting the connection information do a quit. There will be prompt to save the preferences changes. Dave Sand ----- Original message ----- From: "Phil G via groups.io" <phil=[email protected]> Subject: Re: [jmriusers] New Profile window too large for screen Date: Saturday, November 16, 2024 3:35 AM Sometimes I’ve found JMRI windows exceed the bounds of my screen! So it’s not possible to drag the top edge downwards My solution is to temporarily increase the screen size, move the window, then put the screen size back But it would be better if JMRI honoured the screen size Phil G
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Moving markers
When I was on JMRI 4.18 and a MAC, I could move a marker by using “command and left mouse button� or the “right mouse button� by itself. Now on ver. 4.26 my only choice seems to be the “command and right mouse button�, Is there anyway to change this back. Using the command button is very annoying.
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Re: VSD
Am 15.11.2024 um 22:37 schrieb Renato Albano Petersen FIlho via groups.io:
Is there any way to set the order of the function buttons in the SVD window. For example, if I want Bell, which is in F1, to be in the first position and Horn, which is in F2, to be in the second position?I will think about it. The first suggestion sounds very useful. One approach might be to use the order from the config.xml file. Thank you for the suggestions. Klaus |
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