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Locked Re: Error messages Auto Generating Signal Pairs for SML

 

Jos,

Your main problem is that the block requirements for signal masts and sml are different than signal heads and SSL.

The main change is that the double crossover needs two new blocks. ?One for each straight route. ?For example:
This should fix the errors.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jos Smeele <jossmeele@...>
Subject: [jmriusers] Error messages Auto Generating Signal Pairs for SML
Date: Monday, October 21, 2024 11:06 AM

I've converted my layout from using Signal Heads to using Signal Masts.
When I use the Auto Generate Signal Pairs tool the System Console displays some errors that I don't understand.
There are 4 Exception errors and one Connectivity Mismatch error.
?
Is there someone who can explain these for me and tell me how to fix this?
I've attached the System Console output and the XML-file of my layout.
Many thanks.

Attachments:
  • Balsam SML.xml
  • System Console.rtf
Locked Re: #scripting #scripting

 

Doron,

Try describing what you are trying to do from the usage point of view instead of an implementation point of view. ?What are the buttons supposed to do?

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Doron Berezovitz <doronberezovitz1@...>
Subject: [jmriusers] #scripting
Date: Monday, October 21, 2024 11:28 AM

Shalom to all off you
I try? to write a script that on the main screen have? about 10? buttons? that? i want to use them? as an array(list)
?can i write? ?a code that insert the controls in a? loop or because I? have to define the? sub for the click event? i must?
enter? it one by one?
Regards Doron
Locked #scripting #scripting

 

Shalom to all off you
I try? to write a script that on the main screen have? about 10? buttons? that? i want to use them? as an array(list)
?can i write? ?a code that insert the controls in a? loop or because I? have to define the? sub for the click event? i must?
enter? it one by one?
Regards Doron
Locked Error messages Auto Generating Signal Pairs for SML

 

I've converted my layout from using Signal Heads to using Signal Masts.
When I use the Auto Generate Signal Pairs tool the System Console displays some errors that I don't understand.
There are 4 Exception errors and one Connectivity Mismatch error.
?
Is there someone who can explain these for me and tell me how to fix this?
I've attached the System Console output and the XML-file of my layout.
Many thanks.

Balsam SML.xml
Balsam SML.xml
System Console.rtf
System Console.rtf

Locked Re: Something I don't understand - signals not updating #signals

 

The introduction to LogixNG is at?

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Monday, October 21, 2024 12:18 AM

Dave,

How do you do LogixNG initialization ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 19:21:09
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

Jean Louis,

There are a couple of minor changes that I would recommend.

In the Layout Editor menu, select Tools -> Check. ?The various sub menus are handy for validation. ?You have an end bumper sitting to the left of the spur track. ?That can be deleted. ?The spur track is connected to an anchor point. ?It is showing yellow which indicates an error. ?It turns out that there is also an end bumper at the same location. ?After moving the anchor point, you can see the end bumper. ?Delete it. ?Then use the right click menu on the anchor point to change it to an end bumper. ?

I prefer to use LogixNG for initialization. ?Since you already have a Route for setting the turnouts, a simple LogixNG works nicely.

Since I am running in simulation mode, I also created a route for the occupancy sensors.

Note: ?DCC++ simulation does not work well so I use LocoNet simulation with the connection prefix set to D. ?I also had to change the turnout feedback to DIRECT.

After the changes, the signals work and running an Dispatcher auto train works properly.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 11:07 AM

Dave, I did it. It is tables.xml uploaded by Jean-Louis Free.? Thanks.

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:57:07
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

"jmriusers" is a group at?/g/jmriusers. ?In the left column is a selection for "Files". ?When you click on that, scroll down to "ProblemsBeingWorkedOn" and click on it. ?Then click on the "New/Upload" button to upload a file.

You might need to logon with your groups.io account name and password.

Dave Sand

----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:50 AM

OK but sorry to be a a pain, but how can I find the ProblemsBeingWorkedOn group ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:42:38
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

The one that you load after starting PanelPro. ?Note: ?Never load more than one xml file during a PanelPro session.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:35 AM

Wich one ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:26:34
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

If you upload the xml file to group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder, we can review it.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:24 AM

Sorry Dave, I change the option, run again JRMI but the reszul? t is still the same.? No change in signaling.

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:12:23
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

Look in the Sensor table menu bar.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:07 AM

Sorry dave but I was not able to find this option in the sensor table.?

Can you explain?

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 16:43:38
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

Jean-Louis,

The most likely issue is that you have not initialized the internal direction sensors that Dispatcher adds to the SSL.

The Sensors table "Defaults -> Initial Sensor State" menu item can be used to set the initial state of the internal sensors. ?Select the "Inactive" option.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 8:45 AM

?
Whern I first start my layout (very simple one). The signaling doesn't update, all the signals are red.
?
What's wrong ?
?

?
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
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JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?



--
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Jean-Louis Paris-France
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JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?







--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?







--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?







--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?



--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?



--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?
Locked Re: DISAPPEARING TRACK LINE ON PLAN

 

David,

Are you selecting Track Segment from the tool bar?

When you hold the shift key and click and start dragging with the mouse, the possible destinations are highlighted. ?When you reach the destination, the highlight will turn green. ?Release the mouse button and then the shift key.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: "BorderTerrier via groups.io" <davidhudson48=[email protected]>
Subject: [jmriusers] DISAPPEARING TRACK LINE ON PLAN
Date: Monday, October 21, 2024 6:26 AM

I have tried to join the two red squares on my track plan: Keyshift down, press mouse on one connection point, and drag to the second connection point

A track line appears on my plan, but on releasing the key and mouse ¡®actions¡¯, the track line disappears.

I¡¯m sure I am making a basic mistake, but guidance would be appreciated/


--
David Hudson
Locked Re: Dispatcher Scripting support #dispatcher #scripting

 

Hi Steve,
?
Thanks again for your replies, active train.forcepassnextsafesection() is perfectly doing the job for my issue;?
?
Case resolved
?
Best Adrien
Locked Re: Changing the windows system volume #windows

 

If there¡¯s a Windows command line way to do it, you can execute that from a JMRI script:

import java

command = ¡°someCommandName¡±
argument = ¡°whatEverElseIsNeeded¡±
java.lang.Runtime.getRuntime().exec([command, argument])

Bob
¡ª
Bob Jacobsen
rgj1927@...
Locked Re: Changing the windows system volume #windows

 

I have seagulls squawking on the computer when a train approaches the seaside.
I set the volume on the computer and forget it.
When I don't want squawking, I shut it off the playback with a PanelPro panel switch.
The dispatcher (at the computer) has that discretion.
--
Ken
NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959)
Loconet * JMRI 5.9.5 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
Blog: ?
Youtube:

Locked Re: Script to set "Default Maximum Speed" in a Dispatcher Train Info file #dispatcher #jython #loconet #scripting

 

I just have a question: What are your yard block speeds set at? Defined or "Global"?
--
Ken
NYNH&H, Old Colony Division, Cape Cod Branch (1949-1959)
Loconet * JMRI 5.9.5 * OSX,Win10,Ubuntu
Blog: ?
Youtube:

Locked DISAPPEARING TRACK LINE ON PLAN

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I have tried to join the two red squares on my track plan: Keyshift down, press mouse on one connection point, and drag to the second connection point

A track line appears on my plan, but on releasing the key and mouse ¡®actions¡¯, the track line disappears.

I¡¯m sure I am making a basic mistake, but guidance would be appreciated/


--
David Hudson
Locked Re: Rapsberry pi alternatives #rpi

 

Thank you all for your feedback, I was testing the water.
?
Raspberry Pi's used to be very cheap and not really that expensive now considering what it can do but with new alternatives wondered if they were a feasible option.
?
I already have an RPi 5 for my layout but for testing purposes only need an RPi 3, I'm sure lots of my friends have one knocking about and in the loft not being used so I'm going to see if I can negotiate to buy one. Silly prices on eBay.
Locked Re: Loconet freezing

 

On 10/21/2024 12:00 AM, Darren F wrote:
The loconet has RRCirKIts TC64 MkII, Towermans, Digitrax BDL168's hanging off it.
If I leave one loconet branch off (I have 3 branches forming a tee), then the issue does not appear.
I have checked all my locnet cables to ensure they ok, which they are, so I am a bit miffed as what is going on.
None of the devices connected to loconet terminate the loconet.
This is a LocoNet-related problem, not a JMRI problem, so it does not _seem_ to me to be addressable by the jmiusers membership.

I will take my discussion of the problem "off-list" with Darren...

Regards,
Billybob
Locked WiFi Throttle Log & protocol info

 

Hi All,
I would like view messages exchanged between JMRI and WiFi Throttle. Someone, can suggest me how I can do this, please ?
Help guide talk about debug menu but in JMRI 5.6 isn't present (is hide ?).
Another question relate to WiFi Throttle
WiFi Throttle sent :
7.386 RX->192.168.1.47:M0+S1<;>S1
And server answer:
7.386 TX->192.168.1.47:MTAS1<;>V0
7.386 TX->192.168.1.47:MTAS1<;>R0
7.386 TX->192.168.1.47:MTAS1<;>s2
?
But WiFi Throttle show me:Loco'S1' is already selected, why ?
Thanks for Help
Nuccio
?
Locked Re: Something I don't understand - signals not updating #signals

 

Dave,

How do you do LogixNG initialization ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...

De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
?: [email protected]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 19:21:09
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

Jean Louis,

There are a couple of minor changes that I would recommend.

In the Layout Editor menu, select Tools -> Check. ?The various sub menus are handy for validation. ?You have an end bumper sitting to the left of the spur track. ?That can be deleted. ?The spur track is connected to an anchor point. ?It is showing yellow which indicates an error. ?It turns out that there is also an end bumper at the same location. ?After moving the anchor point, you can see the end bumper. ?Delete it. ?Then use the right click menu on the anchor point to change it to an end bumper. ?

I prefer to use LogixNG for initialization. ?Since you already have a Route for setting the turnouts, a simple LogixNG works nicely.
Since I am running in simulation mode, I also created a route for the occupancy sensors.

Note: ?DCC++ simulation does not work well so I use LocoNet simulation with the connection prefix set to D. ?I also had to change the turnout feedback to DIRECT.

After the changes, the signals work and running an Dispatcher auto train works properly.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 11:07 AM

Dave, I did it. It is tables.xml uploaded by Jean-Louis Free.? Thanks.

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:57:07
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

"jmriusers" is a group at?/g/jmriusers. ?In the left column is a selection for "Files". ?When you click on that, scroll down to "ProblemsBeingWorkedOn" and click on it. ?Then click on the "New/Upload" button to upload a file.

You might need to logon with your groups.io account name and password.

Dave Sand

----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:50 AM

OK but sorry to be a a pain, but how can I find the ProblemsBeingWorkedOn group ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:42:38
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

The one that you load after starting PanelPro. ?Note: ?Never load more than one xml file during a PanelPro session.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:35 AM

Wich one ?

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:26:34
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

If you upload the xml file to group's ProblemsBeingWorkedOn file folder, we can review it.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:24 AM

Sorry Dave, I change the option, run again JRMI but the reszul? t is still the same.? No change in signaling.

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 17:12:23
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

Look in the Sensor table menu bar.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 10:07 AM

Sorry dave but I was not able to find this option in the sensor table.?

Can you explain?

JeanLouisDelestre@...


De: "Dave Sand" <ds@...>
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Dimanche 20 Octobre 2024 16:43:38
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

Jean-Louis,

The most likely issue is that you have not initialized the internal direction sensors that Dispatcher adds to the SSL.

The Sensors table "Defaults -> Initial Sensor State" menu item can be used to set the initial state of the internal sensors. ?Select the "Inactive" option.

Dave Sand


----- Original message -----
From: Jean-Louis Free <jeanlouisdelestre@...>
Subject: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand
Date: Sunday, October 20, 2024 8:45 AM

?
Whern I first start my layout (very simple one). The signaling doesn't update, all the signals are red.
?
What's wrong ?
?

?
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?



--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?







--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?







--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?







--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?



--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?



--
---------------------------------------------
Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?
Locked Re: Something I don't understand - signals not updating #signals

 

Ken,

I checked and :

For the sensors I put the option by default as inactive.
For the turnouts I run a route and all the turnouts are closed.

Thanks for your help.

JeanLouisDelestre@...

De: "Ken Cameron" <kcameron@...>
?: [email protected]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦: Lundi 21 Octobre 2024 00:28:11
Objet: Re: [jmriusers] Something I don't understand - signals not updating

Jean,

After starting up, take a look at the Sensor and Turnout table. If any
sensor or turnout is showing Unknown, it will cause the signal logic
to display Stop or stay Red. I don't remember if you are using mast or
heads for the signal logic. But if either system sees something as
Unknown, it will not give any other display.

-Ken Cameron, Member JMRI Dev Team
www.jmri.org
www.fingerlakeslivesteamers.org
www.cnymod.com










--
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Jean-Louis Paris-France
---------------------------------------------
JRMI 5.8 on Windows
DCC EX? on Arduino Mega
Java version 17.1.12
?
Locked Re: Loconet freezing

 

The loconet has RRCirKIts TC64 MkII, Towermans, Digitrax BDL168's hanging off it.
?
If I leave one loconet branch off (I have 3 branches forming a tee), then the issue does not appear.
?
I have checked all my locnet cables to ensure they ok, which they are, so I am a bit miffed as what is going on.
?
None of the devices connected to loconet terminate the loconet.
?
Darren
Locked Re: Loconet freezing

 

On 10/20/2024 10:46 PM, Darren F wrote:
On JMRI loconet monitor, I can see all my loconet traffic happily displaying and the trunouts and signals all doing what I expect out on the layout.
Suddenly no loconet traffic, and an error 'Unable to parse Loconet message, contents: 9E 61'
That is an "unknown-to-JMRI" message type, and I have never seen that message on LocoNet.

What _other_ LocoNet hardware are you using? Anything that isn't Digitrax or LocoBuffer?

Regards,
Billybob
Locked Loconet freezing

 

On JMRI loconet monitor, I can see all my loconet traffic happily displaying and the trunouts and signals all doing what I expect out on the layout.
Suddenly no loconet traffic, and an error 'Unable to parse Loconet message, contents: 9E 61'
?
All sensor icons on my panels, switches etc. cannot be moved, frozen. Turning off track power via the JMRI power button results in track power going off and the power button going yellow (unknown).
No Loconet traffic at all when power is turned off.
?
Loconet appears to come on after a long time, or if I disconncet one of my loconet branches from the command station, the Loconet comes back. If I reconnect the Loconet branch it will work fine for about 10 minutes, then freezes again.
?
Using JMRI 5.8, Java 11, Command station DCS100 via Loconet buffer (RRCirKits).
?
Any advice most appreciated.
Darren
?
?
Locked Re: Question about JMRI with DCC-EX Turnout tables #dcc-ex #tables

 

Yes, turnouts defined in DCC-EX are retrieved to populate the turnout table in JMRI.
--SteveT?
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