In another post someone mentioned animating their turntable display on the panel.? They said this was accomplished with logixng.
In looking at the documentation for logixng it appears that if I had multiple ICONS for the turntable that by using the
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ICON Label On Panel (Digital Action:Display)
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And hiding/showing the appropriate ICON, I could make an animation of the turntable
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Is this how others have done it or is there another approach.? (I'm not sure what enable/disable for an ICON does in this logixng on a panel)
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Thanks
Seth Olitzky
Panel Pro 5.8
Windows 11
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And I haven¡¯t seen anyone listing the advantages of either tbh
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On 2 Oct 2024, at 05:27, Peter Ulvestad via groups.io <ulvestad@...> wrote:
?This seems to me to be a similar discussion about using docker that is on the developers group:
Personally I have no interest in using either and have made sure I don't have flatpak on my computer. Download and install is only a few mouse clicks on Linux Mint and no extra overhead of having Flatpak or Docker.
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JMRI Users Group Moderator ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Peter,
I don't know if it is still true, but the Flatpak install of Firefox would not display the JMRI help pages.
Dave Sand
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----- Original message ----- From: Peter Ulvestad <ulvestad@...> To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [jmriusers] Flatpak version Date: Tuesday, October 01, 2024 11:27 PM This seems to me to be a similar discussion about using docker that is on the developers group: Personally I have no interest in using either and have made sure I don't have flatpak on my computer. Download and install is only a few mouse clicks on Linux Mint and no extra overhead of having Flatpak or Docker. -- Peter Ulvestad JMRI Users Group Moderator ( ) Tam Valley Group Moderator ( ) Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( ) Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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This seems to me to be a similar discussion about using docker that is on the developers group:
Personally I have no interest in using either and have made sure I don't have flatpak on my computer. Download and install is only a few mouse clicks on Linux Mint and no extra overhead of having Flatpak or Docker.
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Peter Ulvestad
JMRI Users Group Moderator ( )
Tam Valley Group Moderator ( )
Sprog-DCC Group Moderator ( )
Edmonton Model Railroad Association ( )
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Ken,
I don't know what your operating plans are, but the 23/27 crossover does appear to be redundant. ?
When you use two turnouts as a crossover, you do need a block boundary.? You do not need any signal masts.
Only one track segment is needed but I like to make the split obvious. ?Here I have color coded the blocks to make the block boundaries visible.
I have not explained the LT01(B) and LT01(C) issue very well. ?Maybe this will help.
LT01(B) is attached to the straight leg of LT1 which is the 812 block. ?LT01(C) is attached to the diverging leg which is the 806 block. ?Therefore the icon should be located next to the proper track.
Note: ?I like that you include the connection letter in the signal mast user name. ?I do the same thing. ?Many years ago I gave up on trying to use directions, such as east/west, left/right, etc., in signal mast user names.
Once you have made the changes for LT26/LT14 and made the same change for 23/27 or delete them and related signal masts, you need to delete all of the SML and do the Auto Generate Signaling Pairs.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml
Date: Tuesday, October 01, 2024 8:49 PM
Good evening, Dave
I have some questions this time.?
1. Can I remove turnouts 23 & 27?
2. Can I remove block 817 also??
I am sending the file back.
I really appreciate your help.
Best?
KenF
Ecuador?
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For more informations:
Flatpak is a GNU/Linux Desktop package format. Is goal is to provide the
same environment to execute an app on each GNU/Linux distribution that
support Flatpak. Which include Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, CentOS, OpenSuse,
etc.
Each app can request a runtime that include the majority of its
dependencies. It exist generic runtimes, like Gnome, KDE or FreeDesktop.
But it's possible to make custom runtime.
Each app can also request extension(s) for their runtime. These extensions
add specific dependencies. Like for example audio/video codecs.
And finally, for specific dependencies who are not provided by runtime end
their extension, the app is packages with them.
When the app is launched by an user: A container is created with the app file
system, a read-only access the runtime and its extension(s) and the
software is executed inside this container.
For more about Flatpak:
* The official Flatpak website:
* The documentation:
* The list of GNU/Linux distributions who support Flatpak:
Flathub is a community repository who provide a lot of desktop apps:
* The official Flathub website:
* The publication documentation:
* The app author documentation:
Best regards
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S¨¦bastien Gendre <seb@...> writes:
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Hello,
I would like to know if JMRI developers have planned to release JMRI as a
Flatpak, on Flathub.
Flatpak offer a good way to ensure the app to run in the same
environment, for each GNU/Linux system that support Flatpak. Which is a
lot of them. And distributing the app on Flathub will make it
downloadable and installable with a simple click.
I have already started to see if it's technically feasible. For what I
have tested, JMRI run well with OpenJDK 11 java runtime. And Flathub
provide an extension to the Freedesktop sdk that contain the OpenJDK 11
Java Runtime Environment (JRE) and Java Developement Kit (JDK):
This repository README also provide an example of Flatpak manifest to
package a Java app.
I can help on this. But I'm not a Java expert.
Best regards
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Gendre S¨¦bastien
[[End of PGP Signed Part]]
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Hello,
I would like to know if JMRI developers have planned to release JMRI as a
Flatpak, on Flathub.
Flatpak offer a good way to ensure the app to run in the same
environment, for each GNU/Linux system that support Flatpak. Which is a
lot of them. And distributing the app on Flathub will make it
downloadable and installable with a simple click.
I have already started to see if it's technically feasible. For what I
have tested, JMRI run well with OpenJDK 11 java runtime. And Flathub
provide an extension to the Freedesktop sdk that contain the OpenJDK 11
Java Runtime Environment (JRE) and Java Developement Kit (JDK):
This repository README also provide an example of Flatpak manifest to
package a Java app.
I can help on this. But I'm not a Java expert.
Best regards
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Gendre S¨¦bastien
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I don¡¯t know how to do that.? Release the throttle.?
Try to release the JMRI throttle before auto run the warrant.
Daniel
On 2024-10-02 01:51, Keith Williams
wrote:
Yes with a JMRI throttle to do the original?"learn
mode", then when I go to auto run, i get this message....
Keith,
Are you running any train manually with a JMRI throttle
or using an app, like WiThrottle or Engine Driver?
Daniel
On 2024-10-01 20:48, Keith Williams wrote:
Group, I keep getting this error.? How do I fix it?
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By: Ken Fordham <j.kenneth.fordman@...>
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Good evening, Dave
I have some questions this time.?
1. Can I remove turnouts 23 & 27?
2. Can I remove block 817 also??
I am sending the file back.
I really appreciate your help.
Best?
KenF
Ecuador?
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Try to release the JMRI throttle before auto run the warrant.
Daniel
On 2024-10-02 01:51, Keith Williams
wrote:
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Yes with a JMRI throttle to do the original?"learn
mode", then when I go to auto run, i get this message....
Keith,
Are you running any train manually with a JMRI throttle
or using an app, like WiThrottle or Engine Driver?
Daniel
On 2024-10-01 20:48, Keith Williams wrote:
Group, I keep getting this error.? How do I fix it?
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Yes with a JMRI throttle to do the original?"learn mode", then when I go to auto run, i get this message....
Keith,
Are you running any train manually with a JMRI throttle or using
an app, like WiThrottle or Engine Driver?
Daniel
On 2024-10-01 20:48, Keith Williams
wrote:
Group, I keep getting this error.? How do I fix it?
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Keith,
Are you running any train manually with a JMRI throttle or using
an app, like WiThrottle or Engine Driver?
Daniel
On 2024-10-01 20:48, Keith Williams
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Ken,
The second try worked.
There are a few more changes.
I recommend that the turnout speeds be adjusted. ?The default speed for Thrown is Restricted. ?I normally used Medium. This is set using the "Speeds -> Defaults" menu item in the Turnout table.
This affects the signal mast logic when routes include thrown turnouts.
The "LT1" turnout table entry currently has "Inverted" enabled. ?I suspect that this was an attempt to make the diverging leg of LT1 to be the normal route. ?I don't use inverted. ?My rule is that if the JMRI Closed state is not the preferred route, the switch machine wiring is changed.
The image for LT1 has the wrong color (red). ?Right click LT1 and select Edit. ?Click on the "Create/Edit" block button. ?Set "Occupied Sense" to Active.
If the problem is with what LS57 is reporting, fix it instead of masking the problem using JMRI.?
The signal mast icons for LT01(B) and LT01(C) need to be flipped.
LT14 signal masts: ?LT14(C) is missing and LT14(B) is in the wrong location on the panel. ?Enable "Right Hand Side" for all 3 locations and click on Done. ?This will add/move the masts to the proper locations.
LT22 signal masts: ?Select LT22(C) for the 815 - 512 block boundary. ?Create SML for LT22(C). ?Delete and create SML for LT25(A).
LT23 signal masts: ?Add the masts to the panel.
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The LT26/LT14 and LT23/LT27 turnout pairs look like crossovers. ?If they behave as crossovers then trains will never stop between the turnouts. ?If that is true, then blocks 833 and 816 are not needed. ?And signal masts LT26(C) and LT14(B) are not needed.
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There is an error where occupancy sensor LS400 assigned to blocks 804 and 810.
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Note: ?The middle loop ( P14, etc.) has an interesting problem that will require more research. ?When the turnouts are lined for the loop, a SML loop occurs. ?When a signal mast aspect changes, the previous mast has to determine if its aspect needs to change. ?If so, it changes and when triggers the next previous mast. ?The method for propagating changes can go forever.
I think the problem is the number of signal masts in the loop. ?The outer loop does not have the problem.
Dave Sand
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Subject: Re: [jmriusers] SML signal mast problem #sml
Date: Tuesday, October 01, 2024 6:35 AM
Good morning
Let me try again. I made all the changes you recommended so I don't know what happened.
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Hi and thanks again for your reply. I found the Allocate Pass Safe Section, thanks you I did not know about it, I read the page about transit actions and could not find it, is It quite new?
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Nothing seems to happen, from my understanding it is because the train in the transit is driven manually? If so I still have not found a way not to click on that Allocate button, sorry for being very specific.
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Vic,
yes, I did it about two years ago, using a free software on my MacBook Air.
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The icons (flashing aspect) were included in FS-1987 Signal System. How may I help you?
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Best regards from Tuscany?
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Pino
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On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 12:14 PM, Tom Myrick wrote:
So in this case, am I understanding that the schedule will not move to the next line until the next Monday when the remaining Hopper Iron car is delivered?
Correct.? The delivery has to occur on Monday.? Once complete, the next line in the schedule is active, 8 Hoppers Coke.
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Dan
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Group, I keep getting this error.? How do I fix it?
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Thank you Dan!!? I think I'm getting the hang of this beast.
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Tom M. - The schedule has ore hoppers being delivered on Monday and Thursday, so, if I understand Dan correctly, if only 11 ore car LDs were delivered on Monday instead of the scheduled 12, the MTs couldn't be moved out until the first of the ore cars was delivered on Thursday.
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Thanks again Dan.
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Clarence
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On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 07:14 PM, Dan Boudreau wrote:
For example, on Monday, the program will wait for 12 Hopper Iron cars to be delivered.? If only 11 arrive on Monday, the program will not move to the next deliver of 8 Hopper Coke on Tuesday.
So in this case, am I understanding that the schedule will not move to the next line until the next Monday when the remaining Hopper Iron car is delivered?
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Giuseppe Di Biasi
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